Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[Snail2]

Russia is lying when it denies its troops are in Ukraine: Kerry

Kerry, Psaki and that Biden guy are getting more and the US versions of Baghdad Bob.

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[Balthazar]

Russia is lying when it denies its troops are in Ukraine: Kerry

Kerry, Psaki and that Biden guy are getting more and the US versions of Baghdad Bob.

Baghdad Bob was just a wannabe.

[galdur]

Uh, oh. Mob to send "help". Look out even further below Ukraine.

Thought they were too busy covering up their own pedophile rings and other shit back home to have time for more war scams but apparently that is not so. I guess the Ukraine market is important for the interests of this particular mob pile of dung anyway.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that Britain is going to begin sending troops to Ukraine later this week, with the first set of “trainers” arriving in Kiev in a few days, and further troops to come as military advisers.

[Nemo1024]

Found an interesting resource, summarising the news:

https://quemadoinstitute.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/novorossiya-news-research-feb-18-23/

The latest two updates from it:

Wednesday, February 25, 2015
(Updated throughout the day)

Voice of Sevastopol Tuesday Situation Report. There were numerous ceasefire violations by the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) yesterday. The Donetsk People’s Republic continues heavy weapons withdrawal from the contact line in accordance with the Minsk 2.0 ceasefire agreement, but DPR Deputy Defense Minister Eduard Basurin says weapons will be put back in place if the enemy continues to violate the truce. This and other frontline news is available at The war in Novorossia Online 02.24.2015 Chronicle.

Colonel Cassad Tuesday Situation Update. The junta continues to concentrate forces in the areas of Donetsk and Volnovakha, and to shell the cities of the DPR. See A brief but important update (Feb 24).

About shelling. Ukrainian forces shelled Donetsk airport (or what is left of it) yesterday, delaying the clean-up operations by DNR. Today it was relatively quiet there, so DNR's Ministry of Disasters started to clean up the blockages and rubble in search of bodies and unexploded shells.

Also:

Putin: Ukraine Gas Cut Bears Hallmarks of Genocide. Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a Moscow meeting with Cyprus President Nicos Anastasiades that the gas cut-off to Donbass by Ukraine’s national gas company, Naftogaz, is akin to genocide. “Apparently, some responsible leaders of the modern-day Ukraine are unable to understand the importance of humanitarian issues. It seems that the very notion of humanism has been forgotten,” Putin said. The PressTV article may be found at Kiev’s gas cutoff to Donetsk sign of ‘smacks of genocide': Putin (Feb 25).

I saw on the news that Russian Federation is preparing a new, 14th, humanitarian aid convoy to Novorossia.

[Nemo1024]

DNR views Mariupol as its territory, but will try to reunite with it using political means, defending the interests of its citizems:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/2/26/731609.html

LNR's military reports that Ukrainians have resumed fighting on the Western borders of LNR. They further report losses among the Ukrainian aggressors:
http://ria.ru/world/20150226/1049685129.html

Ukrainian military shot with artillery at a humanitarian convoy that was en-route to Debalcevo:
http://ria.ru/world/20150226/1049750784.html

By the way, Kiev demands that Russia does not sent its humanitarian aid to Donbass. Coupled with the recent cut-off of gas supplies to Donbass by Naftogas, we can talk about a systematic genocide of the Russian population of Novorossi through worsening of the already critical humanitarian situation - it's long past a disaster point.

For comparison: when hurricane Kathrin hit USA, people on the affected territories were much better off, compared to what people of Donbass had to endure for the last year.

Norwegian ministry of Defence said that they prepared to train the Ukrainian nazis... sorry punishers... sorry, forces.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1793207

With all the insurgence of the Western military advisors and trainers, it looks like the only ones who want peace there is Russia, while the West wants renewal of war and more bloodshed among the civilian population.

[galdur]

Well, I´m sure the Norwegian "military" feels that it´s´much better off helping others screw up their armed forces than sitting on their useless asses back home doing nothing. Guess the Danes will be next. Yawn.

The population of these countries must be elated over all this loving mob-nazi relationship.

[bryant.coleman]

By the way, Kiev demands that Russia does not sent its humanitarian aid to Donbass. Coupled with the recent cut-off of gas supplies to Donbass by Naftogas, we can talk about a systematic genocide of the Russian population of Novorossi through worsening of the already critical humanitarian situation - it's long past a disaster point.

I am not surprised. The Kiev forces deliberately targeted the civilian positions in DNR and LNR (including hospitals and kindergartens), as they knew that most of these people were Russian speaking. Their main objective is to reduce the population size of the Russian speakers in the East. The Nazis had similar objectives, when they rose to power in the 1930s.

[galdur]

What happened to the mob´s and mob media´s whining about regimes killing their own people ? It used to be the favorite advertising slogan of those warmongering whores.

[BitMos]

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What happened to the mob´s and mob media´s whining about regimes killing their own people ? It used to be the favorite advertising slogan of those warmongering whores.

let's forget them, or I rephrase, why care about what a dead walking is saying ...

so as the Swarm is in the process of making Russia a new Main Hive, time to discuss certain aspect of the stay... Drugs. I am sorry, but certain of our best take stuff that may not be legal in Russia. As good citizens, respectful of the law of the Federation it would be cool if it cool be discussed (special permits from the fsb?). The way you see fit, however it's impossible to move certain of the best assets of the swarm without their full medicine package (and let me tell you it can goes over than hourly in take for so many different products chem and natural that individual accreditation may be too slow, and then there are the evolution of the products, from wake up to sleep and during)... I mean or you welcome the Swarm or you don't... but it's boring to be offshored from the greatest success of the last few years... and don't worry about Russian Language, they will learn... no more cia, no more nsa, no more minority seeking potus, no more bs, no more gmos, safety against the sexual predators, safety from electronic profiling with sexual objectives, big land, seas, sun, desert, everything... and MOOOARRR .

What is tragic is all those young Ukrainian girls that will get in the hands of pimps and be paraded between the western capital for guys like joes biden, his son, Silvio and dsk and their super star of footballers and others shitpiece made for the SHOW biz... fucking sickness. Some will have to be denied entry on Russian Territory... to big of a risk.

[galdur]

If you break it you buy it. The mob will have to cover the bankruptcy of Ukraine. Fortunately it´s exceptionally well positioned financially to do so.

Cash-strapped Ukraine sought to buy time in its effort to ensure continued gas supplies from Russia, making a $15 million payment to Moscow on Friday as it waits for international rescue loans to arrive.

But Moscow says the sum will cover only an additional day, leaving a potential cut-off looming Tuesday.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/reports-ukraine-paid-15-million-russian-gas-29266228

[Snail2]

Uh, oh. Mob to send "help". Look out even further below Ukraine.

Thought they were too busy covering up their own pedophile rings and other shit back home to have time for more war scams but apparently that is not so. I guess the Ukraine market is important for the interests of this particular mob pile of dung anyway.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that Britain is going to begin sending troops to Ukraine later this week, with the first set of “trainers” arriving in Kiev in a few days, and further troops to come as military advisers.

War is always a good way to distract attention from the pedo rings of their buddies. Have you seen the movie Wag the dog ?

(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885/)

[galdur]

Well, Kerry is going to London - the terror shit pile capital of the world - to go over the books with other mobsters and how shitting their terror scams on Ukraine is going

IN MIDST OF WAR, UKRAINE BECOMES GATEWAY FOR JIHAD

“OUR BROTHERS ARE there,” Khalid said when he heard I was going to Ukraine. “Buy a local SIM card when you get there, send me the number and then wait for someone to call you.”

Khalid, who uses a pseudonym, leads the Islamic State’s underground branch in Istanbul. He came from Syria to help control the flood of volunteers arriving in Turkey from all over the world, wanting to join the global jihad. Now, he wanted to put me in touch with Rizvan, a “brother” fighting with Muslims in Ukraine.

The “brothers” are members of ISIS and other underground Islamic organizations, men who have abandoned their own countries and cities. Often using pseudonyms and fake identities, they are working and fighting in the Middle East, Africa and the Caucasus, slipping across borders without visas. Some are fighting to create a new Caliphate — heaven on earth.  Others — like Chechens, Kurds and Dagestanis — say they are fighting for freedom, independence and self-determination. They are on every continent, and in almost every country, and now they are in Ukraine, too.

In the West, most look at the war in Ukraine as simply a battle between Russian-backed separatists and the Ukrainian government. But the truth on the ground is now far more complex, particularly when it comes to the volunteer battalions fighting on the side of Ukraine. Ostensibly state-sanctioned, but not necessarily state-controlled, some have been supported by Ukrainian oligarchs, and others by private citizens. Less talked about, however, is the Dudayev battalion, named after the first president of Chechnya, Dzhokhar Dudayev, and founded by Isa Munayev, a Chechen commander who fought in two wars against Russia.

Ukraine is now becoming an important stop-off point for the brothers, like Rizvan. In Ukraine, you can buy a passport and a new identity. For $15,000, a fighter receives a new name and a legal document attesting to Ukrainian citizenship. Ukraine doesn’t belong to the European Union, but it’s an easy pathway for immigration to the West. Ukrainians have few difficulties obtaining visas to neighboring Poland, where they can work on construction sites and in restaurants, filling the gap left by the millions of Poles who have left in search of work in the United Kingdom and Germany.

You can also do business in Ukraine that’s not quite legal. You can earn easy money for the brothers fighting in the Caucasus, Syria and Afghanistan. You can “legally” acquire unregistered weapons to fight the Russian-backed separatists, and then export them by bribing corrupt Ukrainian customs officers.

“Our goal here is to get weapons, which will be sent to the Caucasus,” Rizvan, the brother who meets me first in Kiev, admits without hesitation.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/26/midst-war-ukraine-becomes-gateway-europe-jihad/

[BitMos]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-27/panic-must-be-stopped-ukraine-central-bank-head-says-boosts-capital-controls

this one made me laugh so much, almost on the floor , a girl... mooooorrraafff... on the deck for the collapse of a ccy soooo nice. "Governor Valeriya Gontareva", babe it's gonna be wild... , and you can do nothing at all.

btw I didn't read it... what is to be read  . the only q is will it be faster to get to 3 digits or 4 ? moar lol.

one paper toilet more to the trash... (how to pay for those pricey iphones... that's the question, that some will have to answer, a fuck with joe son and it's yours... hooowww trashy. Or regain your lost freedom, don't be a slave, it's so trash what I wrote, but sooo true. some will).

the first comment sums it all : With the currency in freefall, reserves are almost depleted, a massive civil war and gas being paid for 24 hours at a time, it can't be much longer now.

LoL... go Valeriya, show us the magic ... rofl....

[galdur]

Let´s see, a toilet paper roll contains what 70 wipes. When a roll costs 10000 hryvnia and they can exchange that for 100 smaller hryvnia bills and wipe with that it´ll be a tidy profit.

[galdur]

So much for those "sanctions"

Russia’s MICEX this year’s best performing stock index

http://rt.com/business/235659-micex-stocks-investments-forecasts/

[tee-rex]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-27/panic-must-be-stopped-ukraine-central-bank-head-says-boosts-capital-controls

this one made me laugh so much, almost on the floor , a girl... mooooorrraafff... on the deck for the collapse of a ccy soooo nice. "Governor Valeriya Gontareva", babe it's gonna be wild... , and you can do nothing at all.

btw I didn't read it... what is to be read  . the only q is will it be faster to get to 3 digits or 4 ? moar lol.

one paper toilet more to the trash... (how to pay for those pricey iphones... that's the question, that some will have to answer, a fuck with joe son and it's yours... hooowww trashy. Or regain your lost freedom, don't be a slave, it's so trash what I wrote, but sooo true. some will).

the first comment sums it all : With the currency in freefall, reserves are almost depleted, a massive civil war and gas being paid for 24 hours at a time, it can't be much longer now.

LoL... go Valeriya, show us the magic ... rofl....

This part of the article should necessarily be cited here (for all the Ukrainian trolls to read, without fail):

Gontareva's punchline: "Ukraine has insufficient reserves, and huge capital outflow." Yes, we can see how that is a problem. And another problem: Ukraine made its bed and invited the west in it. It better hope that the west, and the IMF reciprocate, or else the entire nation will be completely insolvent as soon as 3 weeks from today at which point the country will run out of liquid reserves with which to fund imports and the economy grinds to a halt. All that will be needed then, is another coup to restore the balance that the US Department of State so eagerly destroyed a year ago with its sponsored military coup in Kiev.

And the upshot:

The only sad aftermath: yet another failed nation

[galdur]

I advise you to read the telegram's Wikileaks: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html , in which it is shown that Kremlin clearly pointed out to the Americans in 2008 the scenarios that we see today: "Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face."

[tee-rex]

Let´s see, a toilet paper roll contains what 70 wipes. When a roll costs 10000 hryvnia and they can exchange that for 100 smaller hryvnia bills and wipe with that it´ll be a tidy profit.

I'm afraid by that time they will not need toilet paper at all.

[galdur]

2008 February 1, 14:25 (Friday)

B. MOSCOW 182
 
Classified By: Ambassador William J. Burns.  Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
 
1.  (C) Summary.  Following a muted first reaction to
Ukraine's intent to seek a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP)
at the Bucharest summit (ref A), Foreign Minister Lavrov and
other senior officials have reiterated strong opposition,
stressing that Russia would view further eastward expansion
as a potential military threat.  NATO enlargement,
particularly to Ukraine, remains "an emotional and neuralgic"
issue for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also
underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and
Georgia.  In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue
could potentially split the country in two, leading to
violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force
Russia to decide whether to intervene.  Additionally, the GOR
and experts continue to claim that Ukrainian NATO membership
would have a major impact on Russia's defense industry,
Russian-Ukrainian family connections, and bilateral relations
generally.  In Georgia, the GOR fears continued instability
and "provocative acts" in the separatist regions.  End
summary.
 
MFA: NATO Enlargement "Potential Military Threat to Russia"
--------------------------------------------- --------------
 
2.  (U) During his annual review of Russia's foreign policy
January 22-23 (ref B), Foreign Minister Lavrov stressed that
Russia had to view continued eastward expansion of NATO,
particularly to Ukraine and Georgia, as a potential military
threat.  While Russia might believe statements from the West
that NATO was not directed against Russia, when one looked at
recent military activities in NATO countries (establishment
of U.S. forward operating locations, etc. they had to be
evaluated not by stated intentions but by potential.  Lavrov
stressed that maintaining Russia's "sphere of influence" in
the neighborhood was anachronistic, and acknowledged that the
U.S. and Europe had "legitimate interests" in the region.
But, he argued, while countries were free to make their own
decisions about their security and which political-military
structures to join, they needed to keep in mind the impact on
their neighbors.
 
3.  (U) Lavrov emphasized that Russia was convinced that
enlargement was not based on security reasons, but was a
legacy of the Cold War.  He disputed arguments that NATO was
an appropriate mechanism for helping to strengthen democratic
governments.  He said that Russia understood that NATO was in
search of a new mission, but there was a growing tendency for
new members to do and say whatever they wanted simply because
they were under the NATO umbrella (e.g. attempts of some new
member countries to "rewrite history and glorify fascists").
 
4.  (U) During a press briefing January 22 in response to a
question about Ukraine's request for a MAP, the MFA said "a
radical new expansion of NATO may bring about a serious
political-military shift that will inevitably affect the
security interests of Russia."  The spokesman went on to
stress that Russia was bound with Ukraine by bilateral
obligations set forth in the 1997 Treaty on Friendship,
Cooperation and Partnership in which both parties undertook
to "refrain from participation in or support of any actions
capable of prejudicing the security of the other Side."  The
spokesman noted that Ukraine's "likely integration into NATO
would seriously complicate the many-sided Russian-Ukrainian
relations," and that Russia would "have to take appropriate
measures."  The spokesman added that "one has the impression
that the present Ukrainian leadership regards rapprochement
with NATO largely as an alternative to good-neighborly ties
with the Russian Federation."
 
Russian Opposition Neuralgic and Concrete
-----------------------------------------
 
5.  (C) Ukraine and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch
a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about
the consequences for stability in the region.  Not only does
Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine
Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears
unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would
seriously affect Russian security interests.  Experts tell us
that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions
in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the
ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a
major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war.  In
that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to
 
intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.
 
6.  (C) Dmitriy Trenin, Deputy Director of the Carnegie
Moscow Center, expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the
long-term, the most potentially destabilizing factor in
U.S.-Russian relations, given the level of emotion and
neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership.  The
letter requesting MAP consideration had come as a "bad
surprise" to Russian officials, who calculated that Ukraine's
NATO aspirations were safely on the backburner.  With its
public letter, the issue had been "sharpened."  Because
membership remained divisive in Ukrainian domestic politics,
it created an opening for Russian intervention.  Trenin
expressed concern that elements within the Russian
establishment would be encouraged to meddle, stimulating U.S.
overt encouragement of opposing political forces, and leaving
the U.S. and Russia in a classic confrontational posture.
The irony, Trenin professed, was that Ukraine's membership
would defang NATO, but neither the Russian public nor elite
opinion was ready for that argument.  Ukraine's gradual shift
towards the West was one thing, its preemptive status as a de
jure U.S. military ally another.  Trenin cautioned strongly
against letting an internal Ukrainian fight for power, where
MAP was merely a lever in domestic politics,  further
complicate U.S.-Russian relations now.
 
7.  (C) Another issue driving Russian opposition to Ukrainian
membership is the significant defense industry cooperation
the two countries share, including a number of plants where
Russian weapons are made.  While efforts are underway to shut
down or move most of these plants to Russia, and to move the
Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk earlier than
the 2017 deadline, the GOR has made clear that Ukraine's
joining NATO would require Russia to make major (costly)
changes to its defense industrial cooperation.
 
8.  (C) Similarly, the GOR and experts note that there would
also be a significant impact on Russian-Ukrainian economic
and labor relations, including the effect on thousands of
Ukrainians living and working in Russia and vice versa, due
to the necessity of imposing a new visa regime.  This,
Aleksandr Konovalov, Director of the Institute for Strategic
Assessment, argued, would become a boiling cauldron of anger
and resentment among the local population.
 
9.  (C) With respect to Georgia, most experts said that while
not as neuralgic to Russia as Ukraine, the GOR viewed the
situation there as too unstable to withstand the divisiveness
NATO membership could cause.  Aleksey Arbatov, Deputy
Director of the Carnegie Moscow Center, argued that Georgia's
NATO aspirations were simply a way to solve its problems in
Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and warned that Russia would be
put in a difficult situation were that to ensue.
 
Russia's Response
-----------------
 
10.  (C) The GOR has made it clear that it would have to
"seriously review" its entire relationship with Ukraine and
Georgia in the event of NATO inviting them to join.  This
could include major impacts on energy, economic, and
political-military engagement, with possible repercussions
throughout the region and into Central and Western Europe.
Russia would also likely revisit its own relationship with
the Alliance and activities in the NATO-Russia Council, and
consider further actions in the arms control arena, including
the possibility of complete withdrawal from the CFE and INF
Treaties, and more direct threats against U.S. missile
defense plans.
 
11.  (C) Isabelle Francois, Director of the NATO Information
Office in Moscow (protect), said she believed that Russia had
accepted that Ukraine and Georgia would eventually join NATO
and was engaged in long-term planning to reconfigure its
relations with both countries, and with the Alliance.
However, Russia was not yet ready to deal with the
consequences of further NATO enlargement to its south.  She
added that while Russia liked the cooperation with NATO in
the NATO-Russia Council, Russia would feel it necessary to
insist on recasting the NATO-Russia relationship, if not
withdraw completely from the NRC, in the event of Ukraine and
Georgia joining NATO.
 
Comment
-------
 
12. (C) Russia's opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine
and Georgia is both emotional and based on perceived
 
strategic concerns about the impact on Russia's interests in
the region.  It is also politically popular to paint the U.S.
and NATO as Russia's adversaries and to use NATO's outreach
to Ukraine and Georgia as a means of generating support from
Russian nationalists.  While Russian opposition to the first
round of NATO enlargement in the mid-1990's was strong,
Russia now feels itself able to respond more forcefully to
what it perceives as actions contrary to its national
interests.
BURNS

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

[BitMos]

Expecting the runway of ukitown to be full of outbound flights... d.c. bruxelles and of course where the pmc are hosted... interesting trails for sure. bye have fun home.