Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[Grand_Voyageur]

I see a battle of will was raging over night... There are a few points that I want to address.

Then post those western sites that are not being biassed because RT is definitely not one of them. Also You say You are showing the truth but haw can anyone believe You? Again If You are showing one sided materials then that's just propaganda but form the other side.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/04/10/canada-represents-reservoir-support-ukrainian-neo-nazis.html
http://paulcraigroberts.org/

The problem is, as soon as I post any article that is telling the truth it will be labelled as "pro-Russian" and "biased".

You problem is that you concentrate too much on the sites and not on the content. RT has a track record of truthful reports, as has been shown time and again. Yes, there is Russian propaganda, but these years it is based on a novel and strong concept of undiluted truth. The stakes are high, though, as there a a lot of vultures waiting to pounce as soon as something that even remotely smells of a lie is published.
Sir Terry Pratchett was right (as in so many things) in his novel "The Truth", when he chose a slogan for the Ankh-Morpork Times a slogan with a tiny misprint: "The truth shall make you fret." That's exactly what "Russian propaganda" is doing.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ was already called out as a Putin's propaganda tool. Looking at the site I got an poor, un-academic, impression of such outlet. Using such websites to support your "theories" only disqualified them (and you). What you think as truth wasn't necessarily a true truth! 

[chopstick]

Western foreign policy is to topple legitimately elected democratic governments, start civil wars, start regional wars, and generally spread as much Death and Chaos as humanly possible - typical divide and conquer strategy.

I mean just look at what we have done to the middle east.......

It is clear to anyone with a Brain that the coup in Ukraine was a CIA-backed Victoria Nuland-engineered pile of shit.. where bonafied nazis and other ukrainian nationalists were taken advantage of like a bunch of blind idiots, and now they are being used to kill their own citizens.

How can anyone support this? How can you blame the consequences of another country's foreign policy on Russia?

I can only conclude that people are stupid, or brainwashed. Well, it would be wise not to underestimate the effectiveness of the western propaganda machine.

[Nemo1024]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ was already called out as a Putin's propaganda tool. Looking at the site I got an poor, un-academic, impression of such outlet. Using such websites to support your "theories" only disqualified them (and you). What you think as truth wasn't necessarily a true truth!  

Of course, any site that would dare to publish anything in defence of Russia will immediately be labelled as a "Putin's propaganda tool". Deal with it. And deal with content, not the sites.

The true truth in my book, is something that does not give me a cognitive dissonance when cross-referenced from multiple sources and with reality as I personally know it.

PS: and don't try going Ad Hominem on me, by first discrediting  Globalreseach and then me by extension. You chose to ignore the other two links that I posted. Also, they are far from the only sources. I use many Russian-language sources and a few English language ones. For the simple reason that Russian news agencies have reporters on the ground in Donbass, they give air time to for example, Zaharchenko, while Western MSM mainly reprint what the Ministry of Truth of Ukraine tells them, which in turn didn't have a single reporter there on the spot. There were only 2 or 3 exceptions to this.

So, a mix of English and Russian outlets that go to the Source in their reporting:
http://novorossia.su/
http://russia-insider.com/
http://rusvesna.su/
http://en.itar-tass.com/
http://english.pravda.ru
http://sputniknews.com/
http://rt.com/
http://aif.ru/
http://ria.ru/

Analysts:
http://paulcraigroberts.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/
http://rbth.co.uk/
http://www.zerohedge.com/
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.es/
http://thesaker.is/

[Grand_Voyageur]

Western foreign policy is to topple legitimately elected democratic governments, start civil wars, start regional wars, and generally spread as much Death and Chaos as humanly possible - typical divide and conquer strategy.

I mean just look at what we have done to the middle east.......

It is clear to anyone with a Brain that the coup in Ukraine was a CIA-backed Victoria Nuland-engineered pile of shit.. where bonafied nazis and other ukrainian nationalists were taken advantage of like a bunch of blind idiots, and now they are being used to kill their own citizens.

How can anyone support this? How can you blame the consequences of another country's foreign policy on Russia?

I can only conclude that people are stupid, or brainwashed. Well, it would be wise not to underestimate the effectiveness of the western propaganda machine.

Western foreign policy? I look backward and I saw also other countries doing the same thing: Soviet Union overthrowing Afghan government in 1979, Soviet Union in Czechoslovakia in 1948, etc. To me seems that overthrowing a government is seen as acceptable by every world country if fit the interests of the foreign country willing to engage in the said action.  

[Grand_Voyageur]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ was already called out as a Putin's propaganda tool. Looking at the site I got an poor, un-academic, impression of such outlet. Using such websites to support your "theories" only disqualified them (and you). What you think as truth wasn't necessarily a true truth!  

Of course, any site that would dare to publish anything in defence of Russia will immediately be labelled as a "Putin's propaganda tool". Deal with it. And deal with content, not the sites.

The true truth in my book, is something that does not give me a cognitive dissonance when cross-referenced from multiple sources and with reality as I personally know it.

ROTFL...a world conspiracy to keep research centers in line and bully poor Russia! Grow up, bro! Out there are no pure souls; but students always know how to produce a academic verifiable paper and how to share & advertise it. So, far globalresearch.ca missed this test & I don't give globalresearch a dime as a research center. Just to let you know, I'm used to know, and work in, a few of them. globalresearch.ca seems a small bunch of people actually advertising their few books for bucks, the same few books I can find sold for donations at far-right, and far-left too, party financing kiosks near my home. Their website look unprofessional...and show no trace of seminary or webinar with peer-level researchers, professors & pratictionners from both sides. As Karl Popper once wrote: whenever a theory appears to you as the only possible one, take this as a sign that you have neither understood the theory nor the problem which it was intended to solve.

[Nemo1024]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ was already called out as a Putin's propaganda tool. Looking at the site I got an poor, un-academic, impression of such outlet. Using such websites to support your "theories" only disqualified them (and you). What you think as truth wasn't necessarily a true truth!  

Of course, any site that would dare to publish anything in defence of Russia will immediately be labelled as a "Putin's propaganda tool". Deal with it. And deal with content, not the sites.

The true truth in my book, is something that does not give me a cognitive dissonance when cross-referenced from multiple sources and with reality as I personally know it.

ROTFL...a world conspiracy to keep research centers in line and bully poor Russia! Grow up, bro! Out there are no pure souls; but students always know how to produce a academic verifiable paper and how to share & advertise it. So, far globalresearch.ca missed this test & I don't give globalresearch a dime as a research center. Just to let you know, I'm used to know, and work in, a few of them. globalresearch.ca seems a small bunch of people actually advertising their few books for bucks, the same few books I can find sold for donations at far-right, and far-left too, party financing kiosks near my home. Their website look unprofessional...and show no trace of seminary or webinar with peer-level researchers, professors & pratictionners from both sides. As Karl Popper once wrote: whenever a theory appears to you as the only possible one, take this as a sign that you have neither understood the theory nor the problem which it was intended to solve.

Read my full reply at the top of the page. And where did I say that I take any theory as an only possible one? You are making too much out of globalresearch, blowing a small by-sentence out of any proportion and declaring it to be the main problem. I see this technique used in MSM every day...

[chopstick]

Western foreign policy is to topple legitimately elected democratic governments, start civil wars, start regional wars, and generally spread as much Death and Chaos as humanly possible - typical divide and conquer strategy.

I mean just look at what we have done to the middle east.......

It is clear to anyone with a Brain that the coup in Ukraine was a CIA-backed Victoria Nuland-engineered pile of shit.. where bonafied nazis and other ukrainian nationalists were taken advantage of like a bunch of blind idiots, and now they are being used to kill their own citizens.

How can anyone support this? How can you blame the consequences of another country's foreign policy on Russia?

I can only conclude that people are stupid, or brainwashed. Well, it would be wise not to underestimate the effectiveness of the western propaganda machine.

Western foreign policy? I look backward and I saw also other countries doing the same thing: Soviet Union overthrowing Afghan government in 1979, Soviet Union in Czechoslovakia in 1948, etc. To me seems that overthrowing a government is seen as acceptable by every world country if fit the interests of the foreign country willing to engage in the said action.  

Putin does not equal Soviet Union.

In 2015, Russia benefits more from peace than from war. For the USA, it is the opposite.

I don't care what the Soviets did 40 years ago. Putin is not actively repeating the actions of the Soviet Union nor does he intend to do so.

The year is 2015. It is the present. The here and now. The trend is clear - the USA and her vassals are actively pushing for War, while Russia is at-least trying to maintain peace (they did broker the Minsk agreement after all)

[Balthazar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQWhsZJ4bRk

Anatoly Shary for CKUW radio station Canada

A discussion on the "freedom of speech" in the former Ukraine.

Dear nazis, try to keep calm and enjoy your butthurt.

[galdur]

US Military and CIA Interventions since World War II

Source: William Blum, Killing Hope (2004) and Rogue State (2005).

How many people these psychopaths have killed and maimed and displaced is anybody´s guess. And since other psychopaths and useful idiots always defend and support these psychos it still goes on.

[Grand_Voyageur]

Western foreign policy is to topple legitimately elected democratic governments, start civil wars, start regional wars, and generally spread as much Death and Chaos as humanly possible - typical divide and conquer strategy.

I mean just look at what we have done to the middle east.......

It is clear to anyone with a Brain that the coup in Ukraine was a CIA-backed Victoria Nuland-engineered pile of shit.. where bonafied nazis and other ukrainian nationalists were taken advantage of like a bunch of blind idiots, and now they are being used to kill their own citizens.

How can anyone support this? How can you blame the consequences of another country's foreign policy on Russia?

I can only conclude that people are stupid, or brainwashed. Well, it would be wise not to underestimate the effectiveness of the western propaganda machine.

Western foreign policy? I look backward and I saw also other countries doing the same thing: Soviet Union overthrowing Afghan government in 1979, Soviet Union in Czechoslovakia in 1948, etc. To me seems that overthrowing a government is seen as acceptable by every world country if fit the interests of the foreign country willing to engage in the said action.  

Putin does not equal Soviet Union.

In 2015, Russia benefits more from peace than from war. For the USA, it is the opposite.

I don't care what the Soviets did 40 years ago. Putin is not actively repeating the actions of the Soviet Union nor does he intend to do so.

The year is 2015. It is the present. The here and now. The trend is clear - the USA and her vassals are actively pushing for War, while Russia is at-least trying to maintain peace (they did broker the Minsk agreement after all)

I speak of Nation states habits, Putin is just an Head of State like many others. If you don't know about workings of foreign policy, diplomacy...even direct action, what are you talking about at all?

[coinits]

Western foreign policy is to topple legitimately elected democratic governments, start civil wars, start regional wars, and generally spread as much Death and Chaos as humanly possible - typical divide and conquer strategy.

I mean just look at what we have done to the middle east.......

It is clear to anyone with a Brain that the coup in Ukraine was a CIA-backed Victoria Nuland-engineered pile of shit.. where bonafied nazis and other ukrainian nationalists were taken advantage of like a bunch of blind idiots, and now they are being used to kill their own citizens.

How can anyone support this? How can you blame the consequences of another country's foreign policy on Russia?

I can only conclude that people are stupid, or brainwashed. Well, it would be wise not to underestimate the effectiveness of the western propaganda machine.

Western foreign policy? I look backward and I saw also other countries doing the same thing: Soviet Union overthrowing Afghan government in 1979, Soviet Union in Czechoslovakia in 1948, etc. To me seems that overthrowing a government is seen as acceptable by every world country if fit the interests of the foreign country willing to engage in the said action.  

Putin does not equal Soviet Union.

In 2015, Russia benefits more from peace than from war. For the USA, it is the opposite.

I don't care what the Soviets did 40 years ago. Putin is not actively repeating the actions of the Soviet Union nor does he intend to do so.

The year is 2015. It is the present. The here and now. The trend is clear - the USA and her vassals are actively pushing for War, while Russia is at-least trying to maintain peace (they did broker the Minsk agreement after all)

I speak of Nation states habits, Putin is just an Head of State like many others. If you don't know about workings of foreign policy, diplomacy...even direct action, what are you talking about at all?

The USA is the only country in the world to have an entire economy dependent on the war machine. If the USA were to stop meddling in the affairs of others, cease conflict and weapons distribution it would collapse. Well it's going to collapse under the weight of its sovereign debt but turning off the switch to the Military Industrial Complex would wind it down much quicker.

So you like to dig up old dirt on countries, let go after yours.

Can't say that the USA wasn't warned of this scourge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

But nothing surprises in the USA. I mean you have the House of Bush who collaborated with the German Nazis (financed the rise of Hitler) and then had the gall to to attempt a coup of the US Government. Their group of traitors wanted the military to help them and they would make General "war is a racket" Smedley Butler president. Well the good General, being a loyal American, turned them all in but what he did not factor in was this groups influence, money, and power to keep themselves from being executed or at least out of prison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEI8bnbw1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZCfbrXKs4

Nope fast forward...these same group of evil fucks and so far two members of the House of Bush have been President with a current attempt to put a third in there. Fascism is their game. Total control and dominance over the entire world is their long term goal.

Modern day US National Media and Hollywood have embedded CIA assets controlling the political agenda of what is said vis-a-vis US Foreign and National Policy. Americans talk about media corruption in other countries but their CNN, Fox News, CBS, NBC are all trolls for the Fascist Agenda.

You will deny it of course but I will not blame you because it is the result of years of mind programming.

[Nemo1024]

ROTFL...a world conspiracy to keep research centers in line and bully poor Russia! Grow up, bro! Out there are no pure souls; but students always know how to produce a academic verifiable paper and how to share & advertise it. So, far globalresearch.ca missed this test & I don't give globalresearch a dime as a research center. Just to let you know, I'm used to know, and work in, a few of them. globalresearch.ca seems a small bunch of people actually advertising their few books for bucks, the same few books I can find sold for donations at far-right, and far-left too, party financing kiosks near my home. Their website look unprofessional...and show no trace of seminary or webinar with peer-level researchers, professors & pratictionners from both sides. As Karl Popper once wrote: whenever a theory appears to you as the only possible one, take this as a sign that you have neither understood the theory nor the problem which it was intended to solve.

Failed logic. The above is the same as saying: "That milkman is trying to sell his milk and his van is not painted in flashy colours, therefore his milk must be sour."


Re-posting this here as well:

http://thesaker.is/todays-victory-day-celebrations-in-moscow-mark-a-turning-point-in-russian-history/

The real reason why the US/NATO/EU countries have boycotted the celebrations in Moscow is, of course, not their very modest contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany, but their unconditional support for Nazi Ukraine: the “country” which considers Stepan Bandera a national hero, the OUN-UPA death squads as a “heroic liberation movement” and the liberation of the Ukraine as a “Soviet occupation”.  It is also a fact the the Anglos have always shared these feelings and that had developed several plans for total war against the USSR were considered right at the end of the war which  I have already mentioned them in the past:

Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.

Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines.This represented almost a half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. (…) The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.

Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground.

[Nemo1024]

East Ukraine militia claim Kiev violated truce 37 times over 24 hours - Of that, three registered cases were artillery shelling
http://tass.ru/en/world/794058

A year passes since DPR, LPR self-determination referendums - Nearly 90% of those who took part in the plebiscite then voted for independence of new state formations
http://tass.ru/en/world/794046

[Nemo1024]

Some headline-like info that caught my eye:

- Russia is preparing yet another humanitarian aid column to Novorossia, where the humanitarian situation remains beyond the state of disaster
- Putin urged Poroshenko to lift the economical blockade of the region
- Poroshenko in response introduced a complete blockade of LNR, stopping the last routs with food supplies to Lugansk
- Poroshenko demands that Russia pays Kiev for Novorossia.

[bryant.coleman]

Slowly, western analysts are also admitting that the NATO proxy war against Russia has failed to achieve its objectives. The Russian stock market is hitting new highs, Ruble has strengthened against the USD by 20% this year, and Russian exports of minerals and agricultural products such as wheat are breaking previous records.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/05/11/as-russias-stock-market-soars-ukraine-stuck-in-frozen-conflict/

[galdur]

Slowly, western analysts are also admitting that the NATO proxy war against Russia has failed to achieve its objectives. The Russian stock market is hitting new highs, Ruble has strengthened against the USD by 20% this year, and Russian exports of minerals and agricultural products such as wheat are breaking previous records.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/05/11/as-russias-stock-market-soars-ukraine-stuck-in-frozen-conflict/

Yes, the credibility of the mob and its media has obviously totally cratered lately. Not that it had much yet left to fall anyway.

Well, this is a desperate situation for the mob and the war industry and Wall St. because now defrauding through any meaningful wars worth their while will be almost impossible in the foreseeable future.

[galdur]

Now for some media that has credibility


Zuma: Those absent from Moscow V-Day showed short memory for WW2 events

Published on May 10, 2015
The President of the South Africa Jacob Zuma said that the victory over fascism was an important achievement for the humanity in an exclusive interview. He also stressed that Russian soldiers made a big contribution to the victory during the Second World War, stating that the South Africans "admire Russians."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGPgFlPevdM

[Nemo1024]

Ukraine: A Cuban Missile Crisis in Reverse
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/24/ukraine-a-cuban-missile-crisis-in-reverse/

In a rather ghastly 19th century experiment, a biologist by the name of Heinzmann found that if he placed a frog in boiling water, the frog immediately leapt out but that if he placed the frog in tepid water and then gradually heated it, the frog stayed put until he was scalded to death. Are we like the frog? I see disturbing elements of that process today as we watch events unfold in the Ukraine confrontation. They profoundly frighten me and I believe they should frighten everyone. But they are so gradual that we do not see a specific moment in which we must jump or perish. So here briefly, let me lay out the process of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and show how the process of that crisis compares with what we face today over the Ukraine.

Three elements stand out in the Cuban Missile Crisis: 1) relations between the USSR and the US were already "on the edge" before they reached the crisis stage; each of us had huge numbers of weapons of mass destruction aimed at the other.  2) the USSR precipitated the Crisis by advancing into Cuba, a country the US had considered part of "area of dominance" since the promulgation of the 1823 Monroe Doctrine. 3) some military and civilian officials and influential private citizens in both countries argued that the other side would "blink" if sufficient pressure was put on it.

Allow me to point out that I had a (very uncomfortable) ringside seat in the Crisis. I was one of three members of the "Crisis Management Committee" that oversaw the unfolding events.

...

EDIT: I guess the author needs to introduce his American readers to the concept that USSR was not an initiator the the crisis  in a gentle way. He mentions the Jupiter missiles in Turkey, but still, he does not explicitly say that the reason USSR was sending those missiles to Cuba, to the American doorstep, was in direct response to USA sending those Jupiter missiles to Turkey, to the Soviet doorstep. It was a symmetrical response.

[galdur]

Obviously Kerry in Moscow, tail between legs. Predictable. Everything has turned to shit that the mob has touched and now even the mob seems to be getting tired of that. Of course you never ever take that serial lying bunch seriously but even they have to hit final rock bottom eventually I guess. And there may be an outside chance that they´d improve from there.

[galdur]

Everybody, apart from the mob´s co-psychopaths and excessively gullible retards following it, are obviously aghast at the mob´s boycott of Moscow´s Victory Day. But, maybe some damage control:

Secretary of State John Kerry's four hours of talks Tuesday with Vladimir Putin in the Black Sea resort of Sochi may not have resulted in an overnight détente.

But they offer the strongest hint in months that US-Russian relations may yet weather the crisis unleashed by Moscow's annexation of the Ukrainian territory of Crimea just over a year ago.

Russian observers are putting the best face on the flurry of diplomatic activity, which also saw German Chancellor Angela Merkel jet into Moscow on Sunday to lay a wreath in honor of Russian Victory Day and hold talks with Mr. Putin. That, plus Mr. Kerry's visit, suggests that Western governments may be trying to limit the damage from their boycott of Russia's massive V-Day military parade last weekend, and at least keep open the lines of communication with Russian leaders in dealing with major global problems such as Ukraine, Syria, and Iran.

http://www.adn.com/article/20150514/return-pragmatism-russia-west-ties-kerry-putin-talks-hint-way