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July 14, 2015, 10:07:30 AM |
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I wonder if you are repeating one of those myths that were propagated in Finland after Lenin gave it independence and prior to it being used as a pawn by Germany. Because the period that you are talking about is when Finland had its own Senate and its own currency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland |
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Nemo1024
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July 14, 2015, 01:29:38 PM |
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I wonder if you are repeating one of those myths that were propagated in Finland after Lenin gave it independence and prior to it being used as a pawn by Germany. Because the period that you are talking about is when Finland had its own Senate and its own currency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_FinlandHmm, I see your point, but through a different source (I'm largely distrustful of Wikipedia when it comes to politically-charged topics). I went to an English-language source from 1899 which seems to be fairly objective in describing the issue: http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/25th-march-1899/5/the-russification-of-finlandAnd reading that article, only 18 years before the colour revolutions of 1917, I can see indicators to some internal power struggle within Russia, and possibly, what you'd call today NGOs - that day elites wishing more power for themselves, and less for the Czar, setting up a situation that would lead to unrest or that can be used to create unrest. |
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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galdur
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July 14, 2015, 08:52:51 PM |
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Hmm, sounds promising. Finally maybe this crap can be of some productive use, bumping off each other... --------------------------------------------- Right Sector: coup is coming
Last week, before the Mukacheve incident, VOA asked Right Sector spokesman Artem Skoropadsky to comment on the group's rhetoric and possible future course of action.
"If there's a new revolution, Ukraine's President Poroshenko and his teammates won't be able to make it out of the country the way the previous president [pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych] did," Skoropadsky told VOA. "They can't expect anything other than an execution in some dark vault, carried out by a group of young officers of Ukraine's army and National Guard."http://www.voanews.com/content/ukraine-nationalists-say-country-headed-for-coup/2860024.html |
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Nemo1024
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July 15, 2015, 06:21:16 PM |
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Right Sector are already threatening Poroshenko with extermination, saying that he'll not be able to flee the country: http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.htmlThey can kill each other off, for all I care. But the rest should be tried at an International Tribunal! I don't know if the following "passionate" speech of Poroshenko of what expects "them as in Donbass" was ever translated to English and aired in Western MSM. Here's my approximate translation, Balthazar can probably verify and correct it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3480We'll have work, they won't.
We'll have pensions, they won't.
We'll have social support(?) of people, pensioners, children, they won't [here Poroshenko stammers having trouble with Ukrainian]
Our children will go to school and to kindergartens, and theirs will be sitting in basements.
And thus and only thus will we win this whole war. The above alone should be enough to put Poroshenko behind bars! During the Ukro-Nazi operation against Donbass, hundreds of schools and kindergartens have been erased from the face of the earth, tens of hospitals, and many thousands of houses have been destroyed by artillery fire |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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galdur
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July 15, 2015, 07:04:19 PM |
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Like I said earlier; Insane McCain was over there a couple weeks ago or so conferring with his fellow lunatic nazi pals. So, there´s most likely a connection there to this unrest. Of course the Russians play this nazi crap like a fiddle and had it infiltrated long ago.
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bryant.coleman
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July 16, 2015, 04:33:45 PM |
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A right sector coup can happen anytime now. Although they have the support of only around 20% of the general population, a majority of the younger Ukrainians (especially in the West) supports them. Also, their supporters are armed and have battle experience from the recent Donbass fighting. IMO, Porky's days are numbered. |
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galdur
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July 17, 2015, 12:47:44 PM |
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Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's parliament took the first step Thursday toward granting temporary self-rule to pro-Russian rebels under a change to the constitution the West hopes can end one of Europe's deadliest wars in recent years.
The divisive issue came to the floor on the day lawmakers also backed several belt-tightening measures needed for the quick release of a $5-billion (4.6-billion-euro) IMF payment that could spare cash-strapped Kiev from slipping into default.
The sudden flurry of activity led visiting US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland to call Thursday "yet another historic day" in a war-torn country that has seen 6,500 people killed since the overthrow of its Russian-backed leadership in February 2014.
Nuland will meet Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko later on Thursday to reassure him of Washington's backing and continued focus on the government's 15-month fight against separatists in the shattered industrial east. .....
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Nemo1024
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July 17, 2015, 02:09:11 PM |
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The following is highly indicative and fateful. It really shows who's who, and there all kinds of excrements tend to float up. Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate. She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship. http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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galdur
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July 17, 2015, 02:24:24 PM |
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The following is highly indicative and fateful. It really shows who's who, and there all kinds of excrements tend to float up. Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate. She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship. http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtmlYeah, it´s a mob garbage dumpster. Psychopath Tony Bliar is in some mob advisory council to the mob-installed crap in charge. He used to advise Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan Nazarbayev, another spaceshot.. Maybe Baby Bush will end up as a viceroy of some district there. We´ll see. |
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Nemo1024
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July 18, 2015, 06:00:52 PM |
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DNR one-sidedly pulls back heavy weapons from the front line. Kiev and West don't comment. Well, USA does the opposite. A new batch of military hardware was just delivered to Ukraine. LNR will conduct elections of the 1st of November. International observers are welcome. http://ria.ru/world/20150718/1135772353.htmlBut would the West want to do anything with democracy? After all, the West is not that happy with freedom of speech and does everything to block it. Kiseljov's (the Russian journalist and host of the program "News of the Week", who is under US/EU sanctions for journalism) account on Facebook was banned after 3 hours of its existence, while a number of fake "Kiseljov" accounts, pretending to be from him keep on functioning: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2642655&cid=7 |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Nemo1024
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July 20, 2015, 06:32:07 PM |
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The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line, and are awaiting that Kiev should do likewise. LAND has already completed the retraction process: http://news.rambler.ru/world/30813824/?track=news_othernewsWhile OCSE does not want to count this movement of armoured vehicles away from the border for retraction, lacking specific details: http://ria.ru/world/20150720/1138704608.htmlUkrainians want to conduct artillery exercises near Mariupol: http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/20/n_7392361.shtmlWill it be exercises or "exercises"? 18 NATO countries participate in joint manoeuvres in Lvov oblast: http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2130944Didn't know Ukraine was in NATO...  Before that (last week) NATO paid visit to Moldova. Just in case, so that Moldovans don't forget who their masters are... |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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galdur
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July 20, 2015, 07:47:11 PM |
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It´s mob property so it´s in NATO for all practical purposes.
So, I wonder what´s up with the Volkssturm offensive that Pornoshenko and the wannabe Himmlers have talked so much about since they got their asses handed to them last winter. Summer is burning away and for a largely useless military force a winter campaign is worse than pointless I guess.
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July 21, 2015, 02:32:27 AM |
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The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line,
Wait, what? Where did the completely independent and totally not being helped by Russia trust us Donetsk get 40 tanks and 80 armed transports?! |
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galdur
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July 21, 2015, 09:35:18 AM |
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The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line,
Wait, what? Where did the completely independent and totally not being helped by Russia trust us Donetsk get 40 tanks and 80 armed transports?! Well, the Ukrainian so called military has given up quite a lot. Maybe you haven´t been following the news much for the past year. Try googling the debaltsevo cauldron. It´ll then lead you to other similar things. |
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July 22, 2015, 02:45:41 AM |
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Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
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July 22, 2015, 05:36:26 PM |
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Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
i.e. why is Donetsk riding around on Russian tanks?
Well, it isnt really rocket science. After all the Russians watched for a long time psychotic crap voted into office by morons turn everything they meddled with around the world into horse manure. So, Ukraine would be eminently predictable once the mob crap got around to that. The Russians almost certainly had their helping hand as events developed there end 2013, beginning 2014. Their agents have been all over the Ukrainian system. Everything has benefited them especially the just perfect opportunity to bring back in the fold their beloved and hugely strategically important Crimea. They are bears as sly as foxes. Never ever underestimate them. |
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galdur
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July 23, 2015, 02:00:30 PM |
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Nothing really to say about this but hahahahahahahahaha  Gérard Depardieu reportedly blacklisted by Ukraine as threat to national securityFilm star is put on list of 500 foreign cultural figures who allegedly speak out ‘in support of violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine’  Gérard Depardieu visits a livestock farm in the village of Zadomlya in Belarus. Photograph: Sergei Gapon/AFP/Getty Images |
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bryant.coleman
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July 24, 2015, 06:13:05 AM |
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Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
The Donetsk Republican Army didn't steal the tanks. The coward junta soldiers left those tanks in the battlefield, while fleeing. 100% of the rebel tanks were captured from the junta soldiers. The rebels are actually thanking the junta for making timely arms and equipment deliveries. Now they are expecting fresh supplies of American Humvees. |
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July 25, 2015, 01:00:22 AM |
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Why did Russia give Ukraine a bunch of their tanks within the last decade, only for Donetsk Republican Army to steal them later?
The Donetsk Republican Army didn't steal the tanks. The coward junta soldiers left those tanks in the battlefield, while fleeing. 100% of the rebel tanks were captured from the junta soldiers. The rebels are actually thanking the junta for making timely arms and equipment deliveries. Now they are expecting fresh supplies of American Humvees. Yes and Kiev give too Russian Flag to put on it LoL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KHOKeeDP-AWhy do you think Poutinoclown keep a so big army on Ukraina border ?? LoL .... to watch the cow on next border ? |
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