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This is Khasarian Kaganat and Russians must be killed or must be sclaves. - 29 (27.6%)
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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734749 times)
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July 25, 2015, 04:09:55 AM
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^^^^ Putin can keep a large army on the Ukrainian border, because he can afford to do so. On the other hand, your Kiev junta has lost more than half  of the regular soldiers in battles such as Debaltsevo, Ilovaysk, and the Southern Cauldron (either killed or maimed). Now the junta is depending on the neo-Nazi battalions to guard the Russo-Ukrainian border.
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July 25, 2015, 03:00:05 PM
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About propaganda
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July 25, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
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About propaganda

What on earth has that to do
with the topic at hand??  Roll Eyes

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July 25, 2015, 11:09:42 PM
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About propaganda

What on earth has that to do
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It contains some letters, just like topic name does.
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July 26, 2015, 01:41:16 AM
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It's ukrainian democracy, baby.
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July 26, 2015, 05:04:39 AM
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^^^^ These Chechen scum has become a cancer which is rapidly spreading all across the world. Putin should have exterminated them completely during the second Chechen war. Now these parasites are leaching off a large part of the Russian tax revenues, and are engaging in all sort of criminal activities within Russia.
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July 30, 2015, 06:11:03 AM
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^^^^ These Chechen scum has become a cancer which is rapidly spreading all across the world. Putin should have exterminated them completely during the second Chechen war. Now these parasites are leaching off a large part of the Russian tax revenues, and are engaging in all sort of criminal activities within Russia.

Wait, weren't you guys cheering them on just a little while ago?

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2868131/Chechens-loyal-Russia-fight-alongside-east-Ukraine-rebels.html

And how "nazi" IS that right sector, if they had a Jew on their team, and now have a Muslim too? They're pretty bad at being Nazis I think.
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August 03, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
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Kadyrov said that all Chechen volunteers have been recalled home from Donbass when the seize-fire started. He also continues to troll, saying that if they wanted to war with Ukraine, why would they need to go to Donbass, when there's Kiev:
http://ria.ru/society/20150731/1155371243.html?utm_source=news.rambler.ru&utm_medium=informer&utm_campaign=rian_partners

Poroshenko said that soldiers will be left on the heights around Mariupol:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/08/02/n_7428957.shtml



This is what I call "way to Russia":

Igor Plotnitskij confirmed that people of Donbass will be receiving Russian passports.
http://izvestia.ru/news/589484
It is still in the works, but that may be yet the softest way of ending this conflict.

Russia did that before with people of south Ossetia and Abkhasia, and that gave Russia legal basis to stop Georgia from genociding those people. Soon in Donbass Washington and Kiev will not be murdering some abstract "separatists", but women, children, elderly, who carry the passport of Russian Federation.


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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 03, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
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Well, as so often before I can only say that the prospects look very promising indeed. Western mob supported nazi crap threatens to execute mob installed junk in dark cellars and the junk is obviously too weak to do anything about it. Meanwhile this mob created mess continues spiraling towards default and bankruptcy as the economy implodes. By now its on drip feed and life support by the mob IMF. Which probably gets mostly stolen by the mob and its junk anyway. Stay tuned and best of luck, g

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August 05, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
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Russian journalist from TV channel Zvezda, Malyshev, told how he was - under threats of execution and torture - was recruited  by Ukrainian SBU (signed a paper) and was to operate under code name Onegin. Upon return to Moscow, he, understandably refused to do anything more with SBU:

http://ria.ru/society/20150805/1163238250.html

Today is the day of remembrance of journalist Andrej Stenin, who was killed in Ukraine by Ukro-Nazis last year:
http://ria.ru/trend/Stenin_year_from_the_death_05082015/

More detailed surrounding his death emerged from interviews with local witnesses.
http://ria.ru/society/20150805/1163053996.html

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August 05, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
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I translated the article above to English:

http://stanislavs.org/one-year-since-journalist-andrei-stenin-was-murdered-in-ukraine-while-covering-the-conflict-in-donbass/

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One year ago, on the 5th of Agust 2014, Russian journalist Andrei Stenin and tens of other civilians were killed. Below is my translation of a Russian article, where a female local witness sheds more light on the circumstances of Stenin’s murder and the chronology of the event is reconstructed. The original article in Russian can be read at RIA.ru site.

A year after the death of photojournalist of the international news agency “Russia Today”, Andrei Stenin, in Donbass, the picture of the tragedy became more complete. Witnesses of the events told RIA Novosti what occurred near the village of Dmitrovka in those days. Back then, as a result of shelling by the Ukrainian security forces, dozens of civilians were killed, most of them still remain unidentified.

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August 06, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
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On the 27th there was a large demonstration in Donetsk, in front of a hotel, where OCSE delegation resides. People demanded that OCSE finally takes notice of the continued manslaughter, and rallied for peace.

The main question that was asked of OCSE: "From whom is the Army of Ukraine liberating them?" OCSE didn't have an answer to that.

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1945419.html


The tag says "Peace".


"The people are dying because of you"

Igot Martynov, head of Donetsk administration doubts regarding the necessity of OCSE presence. He said that the delegation visited him 4 times, and so what, artillery shells still fall on the heads of peaceful residents.


OCSE gave an answer today:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/8/6/759820.html
It feels like a standard answer: "We regularly visited the shelled out villages and towns that you listed. We promise that we'll visit them one more time. We thank you for gathering here today, and underline that we are not against peaceful meetings and demonstrations."


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4 armoured cars of OCSE monitoring mission were burn in Donetsk, reports the republican Ministry of disasters:
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/08/09/obse/

Ukrainian military finds American Humvee dissatisfactory: no reserve parts, old, worn-down tyres, cord started to break up after a short run:
http://ria.ru/world/20150809/1174244432.html




USA seems to have acknowledged DNR already in 1959!  Grin
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-congress-and-president-obama-officially-recognize-donbass-public-law-86-90-1959/5467942

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It’s true! President Barack Obama beat Russia’s President Putin to the punch by recognizing the right of Donbass to ascend to the fraternity of nations first. He has unwittingly reaffirmed this every year he has been in office.

The Captive Nations Week Resolution passed by both the Senate and House of Representatives in 1959 and reissued as a Presidential Proclamation every year for the last 56 years (also known as Public Law 86-90) affirms the RECOGNITION of the “Don” (Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples Republics are core countries of a Cossackia) as well as a future Zaporozhyian Republic (currently Zaporozhye Oblast).

Cossackia is the American geopolitical term describing the regions where Cossacks lived in the former USSR and Russia. This proclamation is still CURRENT US law and tradition.

Written by Neo-Nazi leader Stepan Bandera’s follower Lev Dobriansky under the tutelage of Yaroslav Stetsko (Bandera’s 2nd in command), Dobriansky as president of the UCCA (Ukrainian emigre lobby) included a future nation or nations GENERALLY known as Cossackia in the unanimously passed proclamation made into law.

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To Finish the Maidan Revolution Ukraine Will Dissolve

About 80 years ago Stepan Bandera promised every nazi exile group which supported him they would gain their own country at the defeat of the Soviet Union and now Russia. Starting with the Promethean groups which he absorbed, Bandera cobbled together what became a series of the most powerful lobbies in history. The first was the China Lobby. The practice is still used today by Banderites world wide.

The problem the Banderites didn’t count on was that these groups want the piper paid. They did their job and now the Eastern European groups want their own countries. The Transcarpathians have been demanding this since May 2014. Some want the area returned to Hungary, others want an independent Ruthenia. Even Galicia, the capital of Banderite nationalism wants autonomy from Kiev.

The ethnic Romanians are demanding autonomy from Kiev.

    “A group of ethnic Romanians in western Ukraine have demanded autonomy from Kiev amid dissatisfaction with the nation’s internal security and economic situation, according to a report Thursday.”

Bessarabia and Odessa want autonomy to protect their citizens also.Bulgarians, which make up the second largest nationality in Bessarabia are concerned about discrimination and security. Over the last year most of Ukraine has been making the same overtures.

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The Honor of the US President

According to President Barack Obama and the US Congress, the honor of the USA is at stake in holding up the Captive Nations Proclamation which they reaffirmed is the law of the land. Perhaps the president didn’t know where Cossackia was? Perhaps Jen Pisaki gave him a geography lesson.

I simply pointed out when Congress and the President reaffirmed the proclamation, they beat Russia’s president Putin to the punch by recognizing Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples Republic first. With it enshrined in our law should Europe continue to do as you say and not as you do?

Should Mr. Obama call Mr. Putin and invite him to recognize the republics too?

Now its time to live up to our obligations. We must stop funding the murder of Donbass people.

The above article also gives a good historical background on Cossacks within Russia/Ukraine.

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August 09, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
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Forget it Nemo, laws and regulations and documents are meaningless to the mob if it doesn´t square with its criminal activities. Wasn´t it Baby Bush that said the constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper. And then he continued wiping his ass with it. As does Obammy and as will whichever mob screwball that succeeds him.

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August 09, 2015, 11:49:16 PM
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US is leading things in Ukraine! US is preparing to invade Russia!

Oh, wait, US gave Ukraine only $5 mil and sent Ukraine completely useless stuff, as if US never really gave a shit about that region or Russia. Oops...
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August 15, 2015, 07:46:54 PM
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Odessa activists installed a mocking monument to Saakashvili and Obama:



http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/08/15/n_7470028.shtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfhSyN4naw

An additional jibe is the title on the pedestal: "caбaкaшвили", A pun consisting of two words "Sokaba" means "female dog" in Russian and "shvili" is the "son of" particle in Georgian. Together they make "Son of a bitch"  Grin



Donetsk republican intelligence reports that Kiev transferred 4 "Tochka-U" ballistic rockets to Artemovsk, about 50 km from Donetsk and 100km from Lugansk - a position, from which they can reach both. Kiev previously lauched ballistic rockets at the republics.

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2189072



Lugansk republican intelligence informer in Ukrainian forces got wind of Kiev's plans of assault on Lugansk Republic. About 5000 punishers, supported by artillery are slated to attack soon:

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2188856



On the 13th of August the citizens of Lugansk remembered with horror the terrible days of last year when Aidar Nazis and Ukro-Army occupied villages Hrjashevatoe and Novosvetlovka (New Light) and cut Lugansk off from its only road connection with Russia:

http://lifenews.ru/news/159250

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August 17, 2015, 08:51:43 AM
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Doesn't look good. A new Nazi offensive may be on the way.



Three people die in shellings by Ukrainian forces in Gorlovka — mayor
http://tass.ru/en/world/814714

And look what the Nazis aim at, as usual:

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Eleven residential houses and a children’s social center were damaged in the shelling, mayor Roman Khramenkov said

Ukrainian army shells Donetsk, two residents killed — city hall
http://tass.ru/en/world/814706

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In addition to that, multiple destructions and damage to homes were registered, Donetsk city hall said.

MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. The Ukrainian military shelled four districts of Donetsk overnight on Monday, three of them came under massive fire, two civilians were killed, 42 houses destroyed or damaged, Donetsk City Hall told Donetsk News Agency on Monday.

Kiev authorities preparing to resolve Donbas conflict by military means - experts
http://tass.ru/en/opinions/814479
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MOSCOW, August 14. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and the United States plan to resolve the crisis in the self-proclaimed People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk militarily, bypassing the Minsk accords negotiated to bring peace, experts told TASS on Friday.



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August 18, 2015, 09:37:25 PM
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Emotions run high as citizens of Gorlovka (shelled by Ukro-Nazis for a few days), meet OCSE observers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o82Fh4vISMU
The woman screams that when shelling starts at 10 o'clock let these observers stay and feel it on their hind.



During their stay in Crimea, children from Debalcevo sing about the war raging in their home. They sing with passion and feeling. The audience was driven to tears, giving a standing ovation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_R2JqUXt9I

In the text they ask, but where is Russia, why is Russia still not helping out? Cities, fall, but they believe that all will return and call for Russians to help Russians.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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August 21, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
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Current situation along DNR and LNR borders:


Legend:
- Donetsk airport
- MH-17 crash site
- Ukrainian heavy artillery
- Shelling of residential areas
- Front line

According to Donetsk officials, Ukrainians plan a major assault on the 24th of August. They will most likely attack from two directions, trying to take Donetsk into a ring around village Uspenskaja and pushing towards Russian border. Ukrainian forces amassed 90000 in cannon fodder, 450 tanks, 5 Tochka-U rocket launching systems and about 20 artillery units near the republican border.



http://lenta.ru/news/2015/08/21/basurin/

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August 22, 2015, 01:07:03 PM
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In the text they ask, but where is Russia, why is Russia still not helping out? Cities, fall, but they believe that all will return and call for Russians to help Russians.

The rebels are busy fighting against each other, especially in the LNR. The regime of Igor Plotnitsky (who is supported by Putin) is silently exterminating the free Cossacks, who helped him to defeat the Ukrainians a year ago. A large number of their leaders have been assassinated by Plotnitsky's men, including Aleksey Mozgovoy, Yevgeny Ischenko and Alexander Bednov (Batman).
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