Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[galdur]

There you go. Feb. 17th. Donetsk 0-0

Full-time: Shakhtar Donetsk 0-0 Bayern Munich

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[deisik]

deisik, not sure why you´d doubt that they played in Donetsk last month.

Well, Shakhtar is no pushover and in fact the Germans were saying before the match yesterday that they´re good enough to play in the Bundesliga. Not sure if there´s some deeper meaning and they plan to expand to the east, who knows. But I guess anybody can get whacked at Bayern´s home ground, not least being a man down after three minutes.

Aren't Crimean football clubs forbidden to play in European competitions (if they qualify indeed)? This per se doesn't make much sense to me since why not then punish other Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions? But as Donetsk declared independence from Ukraine (just like Crimea before it), I would naturally expect the same ban towards Shakhtar Donetsk...

[galdur]

deisik, not sure why you´d doubt that they played in Donetsk last month.

Well, Shakhtar is no pushover and in fact the Germans were saying before the match yesterday that they´re good enough to play in the Bundesliga. Not sure if there´s some deeper meaning and they plan to expand to the east, who knows. But I guess anybody can get whacked at Bayern´s home ground, not least being a man down after three minutes.

Aren't Crimean football clubs forbidden to play in European competitions (if they qualify indeed)? This per se doesn't make much sense to me since why not then punish other Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions? But as Donetsk declared independence from Ukraine (just like Crimea before it), I would naturally expect the same ban towards Shakhtar Donetsk...

I don´t follow soccer that much, just caught my eye last month that they were playing Bayern. Nor do I know whether the Germans got any orders on who they should not play. If they did it was ignored which I definitely have no problems with at all..

[deisik]

deisik, not sure why you´d doubt that they played in Donetsk last month.

Well, Shakhtar is no pushover and in fact the Germans were saying before the match yesterday that they´re good enough to play in the Bundesliga. Not sure if there´s some deeper meaning and they plan to expand to the east, who knows. But I guess anybody can get whacked at Bayern´s home ground, not least being a man down after three minutes.

Aren't Crimean football clubs forbidden to play in European competitions (if they qualify indeed)? This per se doesn't make much sense to me since why not then punish other Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions? But as Donetsk declared independence from Ukraine (just like Crimea before it), I would naturally expect the same ban towards Shakhtar Donetsk...

I don´t follow soccer that much, just caught my eye last month that they were playing Bayern. Nor do I know whether the Germans got any orders on who they should not play. If they did it was ignored which I definitely have no problems with at all..

I have just investigated into the matter a little deeper, and, as I expected, the February-17th match had been played in Lviv.  In 2014 the stadium there (Arena Lviv) became the official home ground of Shakhtar Donetsk. So, it seems that I was right after all, and this explains why the club hasn't been banned from UEFA competitions...

[galdur]

deisik, not sure why you´d doubt that they played in Donetsk last month.

Well, Shakhtar is no pushover and in fact the Germans were saying before the match yesterday that they´re good enough to play in the Bundesliga. Not sure if there´s some deeper meaning and they plan to expand to the east, who knows. But I guess anybody can get whacked at Bayern´s home ground, not least being a man down after three minutes.

Aren't Crimean football clubs forbidden to play in European competitions (if they qualify indeed)? This per se doesn't make much sense to me since why not then punish other Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions? But as Donetsk declared independence from Ukraine (just like Crimea before it), I would naturally expect the same ban towards Shakhtar Donetsk...

I don´t follow soccer that much, just caught my eye last month that they were playing Bayern. Nor do I know whether the Germans got any orders on who they should not play. If they did it was ignored which I definitely have no problems with at all..

I have just investigated into the matter a little deeper, and, as I expected, the February-17th match had been played in Lviv.  In 2014 the stadium there (Arena Lviv) became the official home ground of Shakhtar Donetsk. So, it seems that I was right after all.

Really ? I do stand corrected.

[galdur]

Note to self: Don´t pay attention to dumb footballers.

I sure hope that the Donbass leadership has very strong and alert security now that the mob is sending terrorists and assassins to the area.

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DPR head Aleksandr Zakharchenko said that in the event Ukraine resumes combat operations, it will suffer yet another cauldron, this time around Mariupol.

“There were two cauldrons already. We’ll have to give them a third one so that they understand they should stop doing bad things. One has to think before doing,” Zakharchenko said at a briefing in Novoazovsk. He emphasized that self-defense forces will act “pre-emptively.”

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/ilovaysk-debaltsevo-mariupol.html

[galdur]

Kill the Russians. Then they´ll get the message.

Well, it has been tried many times before with very dismal results for the attackers.

How the heck did this Scales fruitcake become a military officer anyway ? His wild and dangerous blathering would be a disgrace to any normal military force and probably a criminal offence in most civilized parts of the world.

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The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians — killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags. --Robert H. Scales

Ukraine: Maj.General Robert Scales (retired) : Killing Russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U7AwRhHQ

[deisik]

Kill the Russians. Then they´ll get the message.

Well, it has been tried many times before with very dismal results for the attackers.

How the heck did this Scales fruitcake become a military officer anyway ? His wild and dangerous blathering would be a disgrace to any normal military force and probably a criminal offence in most civilized parts of the world.

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The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians — killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags. --Robert H. Scales

Ukraine: Maj.General Robert Scales (retired) : Killing Russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U7AwRhHQ

If this freak is retired, then his words are just noise. There are a lot of jerks here (and there) who vocalize even scarier proclamations. Why should we really care if this chap wants to make a clown of himself? A barking dog doesn't bite...

[galdur]

deisik, he´s retired but that doesn´t mean that he should talk like a friggin´lunatic. He´s the former head of the Army War College so presumably his words have some weight in military circles. And no, the dumbo excuse doesn´t hold up, the guy has several loose screws. It´s like Dubya; even his admirers agreed that he was as dumb as a doorbell. But actually that spin was meant to distract from the fact that he´s crazy as a loon. I guess his voters felt much better about voting for a dumbbell like themselves than someone totally certifiable.

Good luck, g


Conversations with History: Robert H. Scales Jr. (2005)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12VllO_3Ww

[galdur]

Well, Scales is a smart guy but after checking him out both his speaking and writing my conclusion is that like some other smart guys he can sometimes be a bit "cocky smart" or too smart for his own good if you like. So, I´m kinda inclined to shrug this Russian remark off as spur of the moment silly rhetoric.

According to Scales; Saddam Hussein´s favorite movie was Black Hawk Down and he had 3000 copies distributed to his military commanders. Scales thinks that the lesson was supposed to be kill enough Americans and they´ll go home. Just what he expects of the Russians. But I think the Iraqis had many a good laugh over the silly tactics of Mogadishu. Troops sliding down ropes from helicopters hovering above. Obviously the Somalis shot down the sitting ducks, sorry helicopters.

[BitMos]

I hope that those that poke try to force  the Russians to surrender their sovereignty don't have children... it will not be forgiven, that's for sure. Putin or not.

[galdur]

A little photoshop work. Nasty, huh ? 

[Nemo1024]

Kill the Russians. Then they´ll get the message.

Well, it has been tried many times before with very dismal results for the attackers.

How the heck did this Scales fruitcake become a military officer anyway ? His wild and dangerous blathering would be a disgrace to any normal military force and probably a criminal offence in most civilized parts of the world.

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The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians — killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags. --Robert H. Scales

Ukraine: Maj.General Robert Scales (retired) : Killing Russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U7AwRhHQ

If this freak is retired, then his words are just noise. There are a lot of jerks here (and there) who vocalize even scarier proclamations. Why should we really care if this chap wants to make a clown of himself? A barking dog doesn't bite...

As a matter of fact, Russian Investigative Commetee filed a criminal case against Scales for his words, based on §20 of International Pact on Humanitarian and Political Relation of 1966 for "propaganda and enticement of war":

http://mstrok.ru/news/sledstvennyj-komitet-vozbudil-ugolovnoe-delo-na-amerikanskogo-generala-prizyvavshego-ubivat-russkih.html

[deisik]

Kill the Russians. Then they´ll get the message.

Well, it has been tried many times before with very dismal results for the attackers.

How the heck did this Scales fruitcake become a military officer anyway ? His wild and dangerous blathering would be a disgrace to any normal military force and probably a criminal offence in most civilized parts of the world.

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The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians — killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags. --Robert H. Scales

Ukraine: Maj.General Robert Scales (retired) : Killing Russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U7AwRhHQ

If this freak is retired, then his words are just noise. There are a lot of jerks here (and there) who vocalize even scarier proclamations. Why should we really care if this chap wants to make a clown of himself? A barking dog doesn't bite...

As a matter of fact, Russian Investigative Commetee filed a criminal case against Scales for his words, based on §20 of International Pact on Humanitarian and Political Relation of 1966 for "propaganda and enticement of war":

http://mstrok.ru/news/sledstvennyj-komitet-vozbudil-ugolovnoe-delo-na-amerikanskogo-generala-prizyvavshego-ubivat-russkih.html

Yeah, even noise can be disturbing! He would most likely back off on the pretext that Russians are not human beings altogether, that they are actually an inferior race and a threat to humanity at that. So, in the end, he will be officially declared mentally deranged and immune to criminal prosecution. And I guess this is what he really thinks and believes in...

[Nemo1024]

Yeah, even noise can be disturbing! He would most likely back off on the pretext that Russians are not human beings altogether, that they are actually an inferior race and a threat to humanity at that. And I guess this is what he really thinks and believes in...

Well, in that case he will just be quoting the Nazis, both past and those, who are in power in Kiev today.


Let's take a look at the situation in Novorossia.

DNR reported 17 violations of the ceasefire by Kiev today, including 2 that involved artillery shelling by heavy self-going artillery units that should have long ago been pulled from the contact zone according to Minsk-2 agreement. 3 soldiers of Donetsk Republican army died from those Ukrainian attacks.

Kiev is doing everything to break Minks-2 agreement. Today is the last day, by with Rada should have passed a law on Donetsk and Lugansk autonomies, as, again, prescribed by Minsk-2 agreement. Rada hasn't even started to debate this question.

Meanwhile, Russia is preparing the 18th, extraordinary, humanitarian aid column. This will carry building materials to rebuild the residential homes, as well as equipment for the starting earth-tilling and sowing season.

And finally, Russia is preparing a report to UN's council on human rights, regarding human rights violations, war crimes and torture of military and civilians, done by the Ukrainian armed forces. The information in the report was gathered from 25th of August 2014 until 20th of January 2015, and is based on witness statements of about 200 people who suffered Ukrainian captivity.
http://ria.ru/world/20150313/1052413143.html


Poroshenko, Biden Discuss US Military Aid to Ukraine
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150315/1019504328.html

[Nemo1024]

Ukrainian forces violated the "ceasefire" 55 times over the last 24 hours, mainly shelling the residential areas of Donetsk from mortars.


DNR leadership reports that they uncovered 21 more bodies of Ukrainian soldiers under debris of the Donetsk airport
http://ria.ru/world/20150315/1052637861.html


Russian humanitarian convoy, consisting of 80 trucks delivered 700 tonnes of seeds and construction materials to Donetsk and Lugansk.

[Souldream]

Ukrainian forces violated the "ceasefire" 55 times over the last 24 hours, mainly shelling the residential areas of Donetsk from mortars.


DNR leadership reports that they uncovered 21 more bodies of Ukrainian soldiers under debris of the Donetsk airport
http://ria.ru/world/20150315/1052637861.html


Russian humanitarian convoy, consisting of 80 trucks delivered 700 tonnes of seeds and construction materials to Donetsk and Lugansk.

21 bodies ...

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/145041

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At the Donetsk airport new terminal, the SMM observed the arrival of the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”) “emergency services”, together with 20 captives, whom the “DPR” referred to as Ukrainian soldiers, who shortly after started searching for deceased Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers. The SMM saw two bodies being recovered from the rubble and prepared to be transported. After the preliminary identification of the bodies was made, the personal belongings were collected and handed over to representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) present at the scene. While at the airport, between 12:10 and 12:20hrs, the SMM heard 15 explosions in a south-westerly direction of its location. Between 12:25 and 13:43hrs the SMM heard 31 explosions south of its position. In both cases SMM could not determine the types of weapons that were used, the distance of the origin of the sound, or if it was incoming or outgoing fire. Between 13:34 and 13:49hrs the SMM heard approximately 20 single shots of small arms fire in an area approximately 500 to 700m south-east of its position.*

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* Restrictions on SMM access and freedom of movement:

The SMM is restrained in fulfilling its monitoring functions by restrictions imposed by third parties and security considerations including the lack of information on whereabouts of landmines.

 The security situation in Donbas is fluid and unpredictable and the cease-fire does not hold everywhere. For this reason, the SMM requires security guarantees from “DPR” and “LPR” which are not always provided. Where such guarantees are limited to escorted movements, and escorts are not provided for all planned patrols or are delayed, this also represents a restriction of SMM freedom of movement.

In particular during the reporting period:

- At a checkpoint in “LPR”-controlled territory the SMM was denied access by “LPR” armed persons on 12 March. On the following day, at the same location, a Cossack “commander” granted SMM access but with the provision of an escort. 

At the bridge over the Sievierskyi Donets river,“LPR”-personnel at a checkpoint before the bridge leading to Shchastia, denied the SMM passage by vehicle on the grounds that the road was mined.

[Rizla2345]

Thanks for all the updates and keep up the good fight.

[galdur]

Ukraine conflict: Putin 'was ready for nuclear alert'

President Vladimir Putin has said he was ready to put Russia's nuclear weapons on standby during tensions over the crisis in Ukraine and Crimea.

In comments in a documentary aired on state TV on Sunday, Mr Putin said the life of ex-Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych had been in danger.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31899680

[Nemo1024]

Kiev (and their handlers in the USA) has now officially scrapped the Minsk-2 agreement, fully sabotaging it.

Instead of acknowledging the special status of Donetsk and Lugansk regions within Ukraine, Rada ratified an completely different law, giving those regions the status of "occupied territories". In effect, politically, the situation is now much worse than it was only a couple of days ago, says PEskov:

http://www.bfm.ru/news/288625