Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[galdur]

"ES STEHT EIN SOLDAT AM WOLGASTRAND"

This was a favorite with the 6th Army at the time, at least while the going was good and any good singers still alive or in the mood for singing:

Ivan Rebroff: Volga Song - The Zarewitsch by Lehar (Russian w.Engl subtitles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxHuTvni2dE

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[BitMos]

The chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Soviet, Kliment Voroshilov, offering his closing remarks at the session on 19 February 1954.

Yes, history repeats, also today outside forces and enemies are trying to snatch the Crimea from Russia.

K. Ye. Voroshilov. There are no other proposals?

(Presidium members: "No").

Permit us to vote for only the proposal which was read by Cde. Pegov. Whoever is for the proposals, those please raise your hand. The Presidium members vote. Please put them down. Who is against? None. Who abstained? Also none.

The Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is adopted unanimously.

Comrades…this remarkable act of great state importance once again confirms that relations between the sovereign union socialist republics in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics were founded on the basis of genuine equal rights and a real understanding and respect for mutual interests directed at the prosperity of all union republics.

Under capitalism this would have been impossible. In history there could not be and cannot be such relations between republics. In the past, and especially under capitalism, desires for territorial seizure and the desire of strong countries to feast on the territories of weak countries formed the very basis of relations between countries. Only in the conditions of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was such a just solution of all territorial issues between union republics possible based on administrative and economic advisability with complete mutual friendship and the fraternal cooperation of their peoples. The transfer of the Crimean Oblast' from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR meets the interests of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples and the overall state interests of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics…Both in the distant and not-so-distant past enemies repeatedly tried to take the Crimean Peninsula from Russia and use it to pillage and ravage Russian lands, and to create a military base there to attack Russia and Ukraine. But more than once in joint battle the Russian and Ukrainian peoples severely beat the insolent invaders and threw them out of Ukraine and Crimea. Ukraine and Crimea are closely tied by a commonality of economic interests; this has already been eloquently said here by both the presenters and the comrades who spoke. The cultural ties between Crimea and Ukraine have especially grown and deepened. The transfer of the Crimea Oblast' to the Ukrainian SSR will undoubtedly strengthen these traditional ties still further …

We know and are glad that the Russian, Ukrainian, and all the other peoples of our boundless country will henceforth develop and strengthen their fraternal friendship. Let our great Motherland, the fraternal Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, strengthen and develop!

We have no other questions today.

I declare today's meeting closed.

http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/119638

very cool thank you very much. I don't think the problem is capitalism... for me one of the problem is national socialism based on the exploitation of the foreigners... that's very unsustainable. in short the local politicians make promises that are unfunded, they ask the capitalists to fund them using exploitation abroad... the war began. If some one had said that before the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics what would have happened?

because let's face it I just said that the guy is wrong in the root causes of his interpretation, and I defend that by saying that the markets aren't unsustainable and perverted, but can be a tool of peace... hc . I prefer the Federation of Russia, Rand is readable (even if a little weak and light, hard on sex).

[galdur]

USSR Commissar of Defense Kliment Voroshilov has a meeting in 1935 with young Communist League members awarded an honorary title "Voroshilov sniper"

[BitMos]

thx again for sharing, they have an attitude that you rarely see in the west in this picture, and never in politic/management.

[galdur]

thx again for sharing, they have an attitude that you rarely see in the west in this picture, and never in politic/management.

Voroshilov had reasons to be content. He had just been named Marshal of the Soviet Union and the year before he had finished overseeing the moving of key Soviet war industries to east of the Urals, so that the Soviet Union could give up vast amounts of land to an invader but still keep its war-making capability largely intact. Yes, they were ahead of the curve. But an initial invasion from the west may not have been the only possibility they had in mind. Maybe they had a "pre-emptive action" up their sleeve if needed, who knows. At any rate it was safely out of reach of bombers from the west.

[BitMos]

thx again for sharing, they have an attitude that you rarely see in the west in this picture, and never in politic/management.

Voroshilov had reasons to be content. He had just been named Marshal of the Soviet Union and the year before he had finished overseeing the moving of key Soviet war industries to east of the Urals, so that the Soviet Union could give up vast amounts of land to an invader but still keep its war-making capability largely intact. Yes, they were ahead of the curve. But an initial invasion from the west may not have been the only possibility they had in mind. Maybe they had a "pre-emptive action" up their sleeve if needed, who knows. At any rate it was safely out of reach of bombers from the west.

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

[galdur]

thx again for sharing, they have an attitude that you rarely see in the west in this picture, and never in politic/management.

Voroshilov had reasons to be content. He had just been named Marshal of the Soviet Union and the year before he had finished overseeing the moving of key Soviet war industries to east of the Urals, so that the Soviet Union could give up vast amounts of land to an invader but still keep its war-making capability largely intact. Yes, they were ahead of the curve. But an initial invasion from the west may not have been the only possibility they had in mind. Maybe they had a "pre-emptive action" up their sleeve if needed, who knows. At any rate it was safely out of reach of bombers from the west.

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

I have no idea about the weed situation in Russia. Guess it´s illegal but not sure how strict the enforcement is. I suspect that hashish from Afghanistan, Pakistan and those parts may be more common than marijuana on the street.

[BitMos]

thx again for sharing, they have an attitude that you rarely see in the west in this picture, and never in politic/management.

Voroshilov had reasons to be content. He had just been named Marshal of the Soviet Union and the year before he had finished overseeing the moving of key Soviet war industries to east of the Urals, so that the Soviet Union could give up vast amounts of land to an invader but still keep its war-making capability largely intact. Yes, they were ahead of the curve. But an initial invasion from the west may not have been the only possibility they had in mind. Maybe they had a "pre-emptive action" up their sleeve if needed, who knows. At any rate it was safely out of reach of bombers from the west.

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

I have no idea about the weed situation in Russia. Guess it´s illegal but not sure how strict the enforcement is. I suspect that hashish from Afghanistan, Pakistan and those parts may be more common than marijuana on the street.

you need good plant to make good hashish. anyway last time, I will try . that's why there is fighting between the farmers (those making plants that needs clean water) and the foreigners (bent on mining and destroying the water supply in the process) as you know afg outside of the river is quite harsh, winterish even. On the subject what was the plan to go in afg for the Soviets?

[tee-rex]

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

I have no idea about the weed situation in Russia. Guess it´s illegal but not sure how strict the enforcement is. I suspect that hashish from Afghanistan, Pakistan and those parts may be more common than marijuana on the street.

you need good plant to make good hashish. anyway last time, I will try . that's why there is fighting between the farmers (those making plants that needs clean water) and the foreigners (bent on mining and destroying the water supply in the process) as you know afg outside of the river is quite harsh, winterish even. On the subject what was the plan to go in afg for the Soviets?

The plan was to prevent Islamic insurgency from spreading into the Soviet Central Asian republics as well as stop the drug trafficking into the USSR. It became increasingly obvious that the regime standing in Afghanistan prior to the Soviet invasion could not prevent all-out civil war and the prospect of a hostile Islamic government taking control over the whole country (as it still happened after the Soviets had withdrawn their troops).

[galdur]

Yep, the western mob has indeed rid itself of a very important ally in the so called war on terror, most likely because it itself is the creator of most of the terror. Also; how goes the withdrawal from Afghanistan ? The Russia route is closed which leaves the way through Pakistan. I very much doubt that it´s pleasant, the mob hasn´t really been making friends around there by blowing up things and people from afar and other terror that always follows this mob..

[galdur]

The mob is clearly going full bonkers, Now, Strangelove sorry Breedlove, mob supreme military nutjob in Europe is shooting his mouth off.

Germany slams NATO European commander’s comments on Ukraine as ‘dangerous propaganda’ – Spiegel

A top NATO European commander’s exaggerated comments on the Ukrainian conflict are ‘dangerous propaganda,’ and put the West at risk of losing credibility, sources in the German Chancellor’s Office told Der Spiegel.

General Philip Breedlove made harsh remarks on the situation in Ukraine on Wednesday, saying that the self-defense forces, with the assistance of Russia, have prepared “over a thousand combat vehicles” and “sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery” in the south-east of the country.


“What is clear is that right now it is not getting better, it is getting worse every day,” NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) concluded.

The comments came on the same day as the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) stressed that progress in the fulfillment of the Minsk peace deal between Ukrainian government and the militias in Donetsk and Lugansk Regions.

http://rt.com/news/238673-germany-nato-propaganda-ukraine/

[Balthazar]

Supreme clown

[galdur]

Bloody British Morons.

Hammond told Marr that under the Minsk peace plan Moscow agreed to hand back control of all Russian territory by the end of the year and could “expect the temperature to be turned up significantly” if it did not.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/08/putin-russia-risks-further-eu-sanctions-ukraine-says-philip-hammond

The foreign secretary, Philip Hammond (retard, right), described a ‘difficult, prickly relationship’ withi Russia under Vladimir Putin on BBC’s Andrew Marr Show.

[BitMos]

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

I have no idea about the weed situation in Russia. Guess it´s illegal but not sure how strict the enforcement is. I suspect that hashish from Afghanistan, Pakistan and those parts may be more common than marijuana on the street.

you need good plant to make good hashish. anyway last time, I will try . that's why there is fighting between the farmers (those making plants that needs clean water) and the foreigners (bent on mining and destroying the water supply in the process) as you know afg outside of the river is quite harsh, winterish even. On the subject what was the plan to go in afg for the Soviets?

The plan was to prevent Islamic insurgency from spreading into the Soviet Central Asian republics as well as stop the drug trafficking into the USSR. It became increasingly obvious that the regime standing in Afghanistan prior to the Soviet invasion could not prevent all-out civil war and the prospect of a hostile Islamic government taking control over the whole country (as it still happened after the Soviets had withdrawn their troops).

again thank you, very good plan... the Islamic insurgency was fully backed by the west to destabilize Soviet Union I guess trough proxy in the Arabian peninsula? If you have the time, why didn't it work out (from the Soviet perspective ofc)?

now a little bit of new theory to stay in the spirit of afg... nato/us/the west aka the mob wants us to believe that it was about ubl, women rights and lithium minerals take over, and training... however I now have another opinions, more inlign with the recent events... I believe and most that went there have no idea about it, but it was about to control the heroin flow to get control of the girls in the west (and their allies in Dubai and co).. It would fit perfectly with the usmiic attitude regarding women (secret services etc). So the mob. Opinions? I know it sounds very weaked, but to feed round up producing to children and "milking" mothers (and vaccinations) you know they are boundless in horrors, deceptions lies and co (and backing the ctrl+p for 102 years... insane + exterminating the natives of America (beyond the Urals) .

edit: that's why I believe in legalizing what ever plant of the creation, so a woman that was forced against her will to become addict to heroin can get it cheaply, and doesn't need to prostitute herself on and on (to the prejudices of the usmiic and the pmc)

edit 2: the pmc are a way for the usmiic to get more money to buy more girls under heroin.

PLAoC be aware, they (usmiic + pmc) are the worst incarnated.

edit3: sorry usmiicer (and natoers) and pmc allies but your gig had to end, like most thing in the Universe, but GOD.

[galdur]

This actually explains a lot about how the mob works. It´s a very apt description of the insane roots of U.S. policy-making, which continues under Obama.

In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.

A senior adviser = Karl Rove.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?_r=0


In 2013 photo (L to R), U.S. President Barack Obama, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff U.S. Army General Martin Dempsey, and then-U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel,

[BitMos]

This actually explains a lot about how the mob works. It´s a very apt description of the insane roots of U.S. policy-making, which continues under Obama.

In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.

A senior adviser = Karl Rove.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?_r=0

easy to counter when you have the deepness of Russian and the Might of China... create your own . and fuck them like never before. It would be cool if the new swift could be accessed by individual (rating and co).

[tee-rex]

thank you again for the explanations, I always love them, even more when clearly illustrated. I profit from this post to ask you something, if in our discussion about the FEDERATION, it happens that weed is legal somewhere (beyond the Urals for example), please tell me, so that I will not ask this question any longer. For the lutz, can we smoke weed beyond the Urals? cops density must be among the lowest in the world, but I am speaking of legally (disclaimer for the foreigners, if you come with bad intents you will be hunted, found, and killed (or what ever)).

I have no idea about the weed situation in Russia. Guess it´s illegal but not sure how strict the enforcement is. I suspect that hashish from Afghanistan, Pakistan and those parts may be more common than marijuana on the street.

you need good plant to make good hashish. anyway last time, I will try . that's why there is fighting between the farmers (those making plants that needs clean water) and the foreigners (bent on mining and destroying the water supply in the process) as you know afg outside of the river is quite harsh, winterish even. On the subject what was the plan to go in afg for the Soviets?

The plan was to prevent Islamic insurgency from spreading into the Soviet Central Asian republics as well as stop the drug trafficking into the USSR. It became increasingly obvious that the regime standing in Afghanistan prior to the Soviet invasion could not prevent all-out civil war and the prospect of a hostile Islamic government taking control over the whole country (as it still happened after the Soviets had withdrawn their troops).

again thank you, very good plan... the Islamic insurgency was fully backed by the west to destabilize Soviet Union I guess trough proxy in the Arabian peninsula? If you have the time, why didn't it work out (from the Soviet perspective ofc)?

Because the Soviets failed to anticipate the reaction of nearly worldwide condemnation which led to supply of weapons and billions of dollars from the US, UK, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other countries. In fact, by 1986 the Soviet troops had mainly crushed the insurgency, but the USSR's inner problems greatly contributed to by the war in Afghanistan made it finally withdraw its troops.

[galdur]

The invasion of Afghanistan was a landmark shift in Soviet military tactics. Departing from half a century of slow, plodding, "smother the enemy with raw power" tactics, the Soviet military leadership adopted the lightning strike. Overnight, the Soviets had captured the Kabul airfield and had surrounded the capital city with tanks.4

Tanks? In an overnight invasion? How did 30-ton Soviet tanks roll from the Soviet border to the interior city of Kabul in one day? What about the rugged Afghan terrain?

The answer is simple: there are two highways from the Soviet Union to Kabul, including one which is 647 miles long. Their bridges can support tanks. Do you think that Afghan peasants built these roads for yak-drawn carts? Do you think that Afghan peasants built these roads at all? No, you built them.

In 1966, reports on this huge construction project began to appear in obscure U.S. magainzes. The project was completed the following year. It was part of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. Soviet and U.S.' engineers worked side by side, spending U.S. foreign aid money and Soviet money, to get the highways built. One strip of road, 67 miles long, north through the Salang Pass to the U.S.S.R., cost $42 million, or $643,000 per mile. John W. Millers, the leader of the United National survey team in Afghanistan, commented at the time that it was the most expensive bit of road he had ever seen. The Soviets trained and used 8,000 Afghans to build it.5

If there were any justice in this world of international foreign aid, the Soviet tanks should have rolled by signs that read: "U.S. Highway Tax Dollars at Work."

-Gary North, foreword to Antony C. Sutton´s The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/foreword.htm

[galdur]

Lenin is supposed to have made the following observation:

"If we were to announce today that we intend to hang all capitalists tomorrow, they would trip over each other trying to sell us the rope."

I don't think he ever said it. However, someone who really understood Lenin, Communism, and capitalist ethics said it.

[tee-rex]

Lenin is supposed to have made the following observation:

"If we were to announce today that we intend to hang all capitalists tomorrow, they would trip over each other trying to sell us the rope."

I don't think he ever said it. However, someone who really understood Lenin, Communism, and capitalist ethics said it.

And today they would most certainly sell the rope on credit. There is an English proverb that says "give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself".