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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734742 times)
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February 23, 2015, 01:45:21 AM
Last edit: February 23, 2015, 02:03:58 AM by myshownow
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Novorossia army got a quarter of all heavy equipment and ammo of the Ukrainian army, left in the Debaltsevo qualdron

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February 21, 2015
Vz.ru - Ekaterina Neroznikova, Marina Baltacheva
Translated by Kristina Rus

Weapons delivered to Kiev from abroad do not help Kiev, but end up in the hands of the militia. According to the representatives of Novorossia militia, they got a hold of 25% of all arms that were in the posession of UAF and National Guard.


After the escape of the Ukrainian military from Debaltsevo a lot of military equipment, including foreign, ended up at the disposal of the militia. "The soldiers and junior commanders of NAF want to express special gratitude to the numerous volunteer organizations, who supplied the troops of the junta so well: very popular are the hundreds of night vision devices, digital radios, modern ballistic calculators and fire control devices, dressing and antishock supplies made in the West, Kevlar helmets (although the Russian are better, but still a big deficit), latest generation armor," - said the official representative of the Ministry of Defence of DPR, Vladislav Brig.

Recently NAF presented evidence that the Ukrainian army has NATO weapons. In early February, the Deputy Corps Commander of the Ministry of Defence of DPR, Eduard Basurin showed reporters the shells made in the USA, which were fired on Gorlovka. "A sample of a rocket of 155 mm caliber used by artillery systems of NATO countries", - quoted REGNUM the words of Basurin. "These systems are not in service of the Ukrainian army. This is a special shell of 155-caliber from SAU M109A1 made in the USA. This shell has a bottom detonator. Upon striking a building or structure it gets stuck in the wall and breaks the structure. If it enters inside a building, the blast and shrapnel destroy all living things. The second shell is the unguided artillery system of 75 mm caliber. These artillery shells are also used by NATO countries and are not normally in stock of the Ukrainian army. This shell from the launch rocket systems, which are installed on portable rocket systems, mainly on cars. These systems are widely used in many conflicts: Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and as you can see, began to be used on the territory of DPR. The markings are there, you can see for yourselves" - he told the press.


Kristina Rus:

Nuland, Obama and McCain must sleep very well knowing they spend the American taxpayer money on killing the children of Donbass.



LOL, that's the reason the propaganda of the WEstern propaganda press is to highlight the "alleged" debate among the bankrupt WEstern allies about whether to supposedly give lethal arms to the Ukies when they have been supplying them all along... but still- hilariously  - they still lost. Cheesy  Cheesy  They want to give the impression they can still do anything (& to obfuscate the fact fact they lost... but they should have gotten used to losing by now because they also lost recently in Syria, Yemen & everywhere else  actually Cheesy)... but it's clear they have reached the end of their ropes unless they decide to commit suicide and start a nuclear war. Which for all their blustering they will not do.

IT's obvious the bankrupt WEst can't do anything anymore. The biggest news this week is actually the formation of the BRICS Bank and the decisive moment is when both Russia & CHina finally decide to throw away all their USTbonds.

THe false flag in Kharkov is to create a local hysteria to justify greater local repression, they suspect Kharkov as the net frontline. THat may not be needed anymore because both UKie & its patron are collapsing anytime now.

Well, it's getting boring. But I had a lot of laughs watching the DESPERATE antics of the UKies and the bankrupt WEstern clowns.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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February 23, 2015, 01:28:46 PM
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Clearly the guy is losing it.

Poroshenko laughs during Maidan prayers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3uA2NpI-0

Well, small wonder. His "military" just got its butt badly whacked as usual. And he has like thirty private militias to contend with, some of whom are under the tentative control of his regime and some totally outside of it. Some are funded by oligarchs opposing the regime others are run by nazi screwballs waiting to carve out a fiefdom for themselves in the ruins of Ukraine. And the mob is fast losing interest in this mess that it helped create.

The mob never ever takes any responsibility for the clusterfucks it creates so when Russia loses patience over this  mess and a threat to its national security in its own back yard - all hell will break loose. I guess,

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February 23, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
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A year since the coup: Yanukovich interviewed by Russia 1

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-year-since-coup-yanukovich.html

He pretty much nails it with the following:

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I understood my responsibility very well. In essence, when I was illegally removed from power, adopting a decision in the parliament, while I was on the territory of Ukraine, they voted on a law to remove the president from power. At that time I was on the way from Donetsk to Crimea. All the following steps of the current authorities were directed at achieving the triumph of Maidan on those territories, were no one had accepted the Maidan. This was the territory of South-Eastern Ukraine. To impose a certain [Bandera - tr.] lifestyle on the people, cancelling the law on languages - all of this provoked a defensive reaction and people demanded a reform of self-government. They were immediately given the mark of "separatists". Then people had risen against the representatives of radical nationalistic so-called battalion coming to those territories.

In fact, Yanukovich has got what he deserved in the end. He had been in power for over 3 years and he didn't make Russian a second state language despite his own presidential campaign promises. And now he dares to talk about Maidan "cancelling the law on languages"... What a hypocrite!

You are, of course, right. The undoing of Yanukovich came from him trying to seat on two chairs at the same time. Lukashenko does it too, but is far cleverer than Yanukovich and does not push his luck too far.

Another of his big mistakes was having Poroshenko as his Finance Minister and not doing anything while the economy if Ukraine was sabotaged.

The only positive thing that can be said for Yanukovich is that he tried to avert the bloodshed and went to a compromise and refused to use force on Maidan. Alas, in hindsight, he should have used force.

By the way, about language... Poroshenko is still on his Crimean gambit, solemnly promising to return Crimea into Ukrainian occupation, promising rights to the indigenous population (somehow I doubt he is meaning Russians) and the rights of languages (Crimean Republic now finally has 3 official languages - the only thing Poroshenko can do, is to take away these rights)
http://www.forbes.ru/news/281025-poroshenko-poobeshchal-vernut-krym-ukraine

You know, when i hear place names in this part of the world in the news I immediately try to connect them to what I know about world war 2. Donetsk, no problem, but Lugansk. Somehow that didn´t seem to ring a bell at first until I remembered that it was called Voroshilovgrad at the time after Kliment Voroshilov (of the ill-fated Finland command). Great lackey of Stalin though. And much more successful as a politician than military commander.

More about names: Dniepropetrovsk until 1802 was called Novorossijsk, and before that - Ekaterinoslav (translated: "Praising Ekaterina", referring to Russian Empress, Catherine the Great).  Wink
Many towns in the are have light names, that sounded like a bitter joke in conjunction with war reports. Take, for example, the town Schastje, which means "happiness"; Druzhkovka - "friendly".

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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February 23, 2015, 02:12:56 PM
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

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February 23, 2015, 03:55:30 PM
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?
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February 23, 2015, 03:59:24 PM
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

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February 23, 2015, 04:08:09 PM
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.
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February 23, 2015, 04:11:59 PM
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.

Or another translation that I prefer is: Russia Minor.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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And speaking of Novorossia, That of course is completely a misnomer considering the deep and old Russian historical roots that lie in what is presently supposed to be Ukrainian territory. Little Russia is much better.

Little Russia can sound either humiliating or diminutive, depending on context. Is English your mother tongue?

Well, NOW you know that Malorussia means Little Russia, which is the reason I mentioned it. Thought people paid better attention.

I'd rather say Lesser Russia, thus getting rid of harmful connotations.

Or another translation that I prefer is: Russia Minor.

Sounds good, like Asia Minor!
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February 23, 2015, 04:18:53 PM
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I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

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February 23, 2015, 04:25:20 PM
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I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language, and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.
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February 23, 2015, 04:27:04 PM
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Nanorussia. Approved by Anatoly Chubais Cheesy
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February 23, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
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I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.

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February 23, 2015, 04:52:43 PM
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I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.

The name first appeared in a letter from a ruler of Galicia to the Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights in 1335 (as "Rusiæ Minoris", by the way).
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February 23, 2015, 04:54:09 PM
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I don´t really need to translate it. Malorussia sounds good as it is.

It came up because of Novo which as I mentioned is quite inappropriate.

Never use this word in a Russian speaking community. It sounds really terrible to a Russian ear. There is a Russian female name, Marusya, which is considered obsolete and rather rustic in the Russian language and sounds similar. Balthazar would confirm.

it has been sounding terrible to their ears for a thousand years so I doubt little old me is going to offend them much.

The word first appeared in a letter from a ruler of Galicia to the Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights in 1335 (as "Rusiæ Minoris").

Yeah, it´s from Greek so the original meaning is Russia Minor.

-pol in so many city names is from polis. Mariupol, Sevastopol, Tiraspol etc.

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February 23, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
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BTW, I met an expert on Russian history last year after Crimea went back to Russia and to my surprise he didn´t have a clue about what Sevastopol means. Even more surprisingly he didn´t know that it was named after its founder - a VERY famous personality  Grin

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February 23, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
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BTW, I met an expert on Russian history last year after Crimea went back to Russia and to my surprise he didn´t have a clue about what Sevastopol means. Even more surprisingly he didn´t know that it was named after its founder - a VERY famous personality  Grin

If I'm not confusing things, there was an ancient Greek city with the same name.

Yeah, I was right.
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February 23, 2015, 05:05:58 PM
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So, I told him it was named the city of Augusta after Catherine the Great.

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February 23, 2015, 05:07:28 PM
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Well, I guess Catherine (Sophie Friederike Auguste von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg) named it after herself actually.

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February 23, 2015, 08:16:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/Conflict_Report/status/569744948196716544

True ? or Not ... let's see up to where the lie of russia will go ...

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