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Question: Ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking by Kiev forces is the main cause of clashes in Donbass area.
True. - 54 (51.4%)
This is Khasarian Kaganat and Russians must be killed or must be sclaves. - 29 (27.6%)
What is Donbass? - 5 (4.8%)
Where is Kiev? - 4 (3.8%)
My TV show only Israeli clashes. - 13 (12.4%)
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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734779 times)
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November 19, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
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In the future internet message boards will work perfectly. Everyone will be able to express themselves in their mother tongues if they wish and robots will automatically render flawless translations to the default language.

Who have intentions to spam off topic and flood, this will stop not.
Only "self moderated" topic will help, for who have time to edit shitposts.

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November 19, 2015, 06:44:36 PM
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In the future internet message boards will work perfectly. Everyone will be able to express themselves in their mother tongues if they wish and robots will automatically render flawless translations to the default language.

Who have intentions to spam off topic and flood, this will stop not.
Only "self moderated" topic will help, for who have time to edit shitposts.

Who cares. Lies don´t usually have much traction for long. There´s no special reason to ban them. It only gives them undeserved credibility. When the "truth" needs special protection, that´s when I get really suspicious.

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November 19, 2015, 06:57:06 PM
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Who cares. Lies don´t usually have much traction for long.

But this dude still post here the crap called "ATO" in topic about "ethnic cleansing" in ZOG Ukraina.

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November 21, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
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Well, stupidity is incurable but still some occasional signs of intelligence can be extracted out of idiots - I guess.

In the space of a year, Vladimir Putin has gone from being declared a pariah to being courted by Western powers.

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November 22, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
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A brilliant short video:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/11/21/ukraine-without-russia-worlds-shortest-video/

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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November 22, 2015, 12:21:57 AM
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Very nice. I have two words for that two-second clip - incisive and concise.

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December 17, 2015, 09:11:16 PM
Last edit: December 17, 2015, 09:45:02 PM by Nemo1024
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Remember how USNATO's wet dream is to see Russian troops in Ukraine, a dream that still hasn't materialised?

They are still dreaming of it. It today's press conference Putin said:

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«Mы никoгдa нe гoвopим, чтo тaм (в Дoнбacce. — RT) нeт людeй, кoтopыe зaнимaютcя peшeниeм oпpeдeлённыx вoeнныx вoпpocoв. Ho этo нe знaчит, чтo тaм пpиcyтcтвyют peгyляpныe poccийcкиe вoйcкa. Пoчyвcтвyйтe paзницy»

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"We never say that there (in Donbass) are no people, who are tasked with resolution of certain military questions. But this does not mean that regular Russian armed forces are present there. Feel the difference."

Here is how USNATO translates this, voiced by Stoltenberg:

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«Пpeзидeнт Poccии ceгoдня caм пpизнaл, чтo нa вocтoкe Укpaины нaxoдитcя oпpeдeлённый пepcoнaл, кoтopый peшaeт в тoм чиcлe вoeнныe вoпpocы. Mы нaзывaeм тaкиx людeй вoeнными»

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"The President of Russia has himself admitted today, that there is certain personnel on the East of Ukraine, which, among other things, solves military questions. We call such people for military."

Well, according to Stoltenberg, the OCSE observers, who also solve certain military questions, are army.
http://russian.rt.com/article/137373



Humanitarian convoy from Russian Ministry of Disasters delivered good and New Year presents for children of Donbass.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 17, 2015, 09:52:23 PM
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Poroshenko met with General Strangelove, NATO Supreme Allied Nutball in Europe.

Poroshenko informed Strangelove of the security situation in Donbas, the military threat from Russia and provocative actions performed by Kremlin-backed militants. The officials discussed Ukraine-NATO cooperation in the defense area - in particular, reforming Ukraine’s security and defense sector according to NATO standards, extending programs of joint military drills, strengthening Ukraine’s defense capabilities and improving combat efficiency of Ukrainian servicemen. 



Strangelove praised the level of cooperation with Ukraine. He confirmed NATO’s readiness to provide assistance to Ukraine so that its Armed Forces meet the current national security challenges. He stressed on the importance of Russia’s full compliance with Minsk agreements.

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December 18, 2015, 03:18:24 AM
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Ukraine bans Communist party for 'promoting separatism'

Human rights campaigners criticise court decision, saying it sets dangerous precedent to stifle opposition

The Communist party of Ukraine has been banned after a Kiev court upheld a government lawsuit accusing the party of promoting separatism and inter-ethnic conflict.

The decision, announced by Kiev’s district administration court on Wednesday, has been criticised by human rights campaigners who describe it as “a flagrant violation of freedom of expression and association”.

The move prevents the party from operating and participating in elections.

In May Ukraine adopted controversial “decommunisation” laws which outlawed the display of Soviet symbols and prohibited the use of the term “communist”.

The Communist Party of Ukraine refused to change its name, logo or its charter to comply with the legislation.

John Dalhuisen of Amnesty International said the court ban set a dangerous precedent. “The decision may be seen as dealing with the damaging vestiges of the Soviet past. In fact, it does exactly the opposite by following the same style of draconian measures used to stifle dissent,” he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/ukraine-bans-communist-party-separatism

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December 18, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
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Who cares. Lies don´t usually have much traction for long.

But this dude still post here the crap called "ATO" in topic about "ethnic cleansing" in ZOG Ukraina.


As a person far away from conflict zone of Russia and Ukraine, i hope that the war stops fast and peace come to your lands and you guys can live a normal life and have good education and take care of your family.
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December 18, 2015, 07:59:39 PM
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Ukraine bans Communist party for 'promoting separatism'

Human rights campaigners criticise court decision, saying it sets dangerous precedent to stifle opposition

The Communist party of Ukraine has been banned after a Kiev court upheld a government lawsuit accusing the party of promoting separatism and inter-ethnic conflict.

The decision, announced by Kiev’s district administration court on Wednesday, has been criticised by human rights campaigners who describe it as “a flagrant violation of freedom of expression and association”.

The move prevents the party from operating and participating in elections.

In May Ukraine adopted controversial “decommunisation” laws which outlawed the display of Soviet symbols and prohibited the use of the term “communist”.

The Communist Party of Ukraine refused to change its name, logo or its charter to comply with the legislation.

John Dalhuisen of Amnesty International said the court ban set a dangerous precedent. “The decision may be seen as dealing with the damaging vestiges of the Soviet past. In fact, it does exactly the opposite by following the same style of draconian measures used to stifle dissent,” he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/ukraine-bans-communist-party-separatism


The irony - Ukraine as a state was created by the Communists after the 1917 coup d'etat...  Roll Eyes
And Ukraine should destroy all the legacy of the Communist era left in the country - industry, agriculture, energy production... Oh, wait, they are doing it already for the past year.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 18, 2015, 08:09:25 PM
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Poroshenko met with General Strangelove, NATO Supreme Allied Nutball in Europe.

Poroshenko informed Strangelove of the security situation in Donbas, the military threat from Russia and provocative actions performed by Kremlin-backed militants. The officials discussed Ukraine-NATO cooperation in the defense area - in particular, reforming Ukraine’s security and defense sector according to NATO standards, extending programs of joint military drills, strengthening Ukraine’s defense capabilities and improving combat efficiency of Ukrainian servicemen. 

Strangelove praised the level of cooperation with Ukraine. He confirmed NATO’s readiness to provide assistance to Ukraine so that its Armed Forces meet the current national security challenges. He stressed on the importance of Russia’s full compliance with Minsk agreements.

In this regard, the following interview with the head of Donetsk People's Republic, Zaharchenko, is a good read. He touches upon several topic, both humanitarian and military. It's funny how the Western press always forgets how there are always to sides to a conflict and both should be given equal opportunity to speak...

http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/glava_dnr_aleksandr_zaharchenko_donbass_ne_ukraina_a_chast_russkogo_mira

He tells that on the stretches of the border, which are on the other side controlled by the Ukrainian armed forces are calm and the seize-fire is observed there, while the stretches controlled by the ukro-nazi battalions present constant provocations.

He tells that the whole of Donetsk oblast is part of DNR, simply some parts of it are temporarily occupied by Ukrainians

He tells about coal production. Under Ukraine this industry was presented as one losing money. But the money simply ended up with oligarchs like Poroshenko. Now, despite several mines having been damaged by Ukrainian artillery, coal industry of DNR is making money.

He tells about the difficult state of agriculture - 70% of fields are filled with land mines, lack of people and agricultural machinery.

He tells how DNR and Russia are tied economically, with rouble being the main currency in circulation.

And he tells about the reconstruction of the damaged residential buildings - with construction materials partially brought from Russia.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 18, 2015, 10:26:01 PM
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By the way, DPR interior ministry began issuing new registration cards and license plates since spring.









As far I know, DPR plates are recognized in Russia. Ukraine won't recognize them, most likely, but who cares about recognition by failed state? Cheesy
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December 18, 2015, 10:37:06 PM
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The same is correct for Luhansk Republic:

http://dnr-news.com/dnr/25584-lnr-vvodit-novye-avtomobilnye-nomera-tehpasporta.html
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December 19, 2015, 06:57:29 AM
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Things are going back to the normal. A lot of people are returning to the cities of Lugansk and Donetsk. Only around half of the industries and coal mines are operating right now, but I hope that in the coming months, the industrial production will go back to the pre-conflict levels. Coal from the DPR / LPR is regularly being sent to the steel plants in Ukraine.
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December 19, 2015, 07:14:51 AM
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Ukraine bans Communist party for 'promoting separatism'

Human rights campaigners criticise court decision, saying it sets dangerous precedent to stifle opposition

The Communist party of Ukraine has been banned after a Kiev court upheld a government lawsuit accusing the party of promoting separatism and inter-ethnic conflict.

The decision, announced by Kiev’s district administration court on Wednesday, has been criticised by human rights campaigners who describe it as “a flagrant violation of freedom of expression and association”.

The move prevents the party from operating and participating in elections.

In May Ukraine adopted controversial “decommunisation” laws which outlawed the display of Soviet symbols and prohibited the use of the term “communist”.

The Communist Party of Ukraine refused to change its name, logo or its charter to comply with the legislation.

John Dalhuisen of Amnesty International said the court ban set a dangerous precedent. “The decision may be seen as dealing with the damaging vestiges of the Soviet past. In fact, it does exactly the opposite by following the same style of draconian measures used to stifle dissent,” he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/ukraine-bans-communist-party-separatism

Banning a political party because you don't like their voice does not silence that voice and if a Communist Party 2.0 emerges that will have the be banned and so on. Apart from rounding people with opinions which the government disagrees with up and chasing them to Russia or otherwise silencing them I'm not sure what the long term future is with this.
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December 19, 2015, 07:19:16 AM
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Banning a political party because you don't like their voice does not silence that voice and if a Communist Party 2.0 emerges that will have the be banned and so on. Apart from rounding people with opinions which the government disagrees with up and chasing them to Russia or otherwise silencing them I'm not sure what the long term future is with this.

This is not the first time that the Communist Party is getting banned in the former USSR. At least 7-8 of the former Soviet republics have attempted the same. For example, Moldova was one of the first FSU nations to ban the party. But it was legalized again in the late 1990s, and the party captured power a few years later, with Vladimir Voronin becoming the President.
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December 19, 2015, 01:56:51 PM
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There´s no reason to ban ideologies. Besides, all political ideologies are abstractions they´re all at the experimental stage and have been for a mere couple centuries or so. There are no absolutes and won´t be for a long time to come. Just because something didn´t work so well in the past doesn´t mean that an improved execution couldn´t work in the future, at least for a while. Does western so called democracy increasingly look like some "new and improved" diet-fascism to you?

There are staggering revolutions ongoing in technology, information, productivity. These are gigantic waves that will continue rising. It´s difficult for political abstractions to keep pace I´m sure.

But you can be absolutely sure of one thing. Once a certain political system is in place it will be extremely interested in its own self-preservation. But again, the world is changing at a staggering rate, everything is basically in upheaval so maintaining some kind of status quo for ruling interests in political systems is probably a desperate struggle.

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December 20, 2015, 01:29:09 PM
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Ukrainian forces have been shelling from mortars the territory of Donetsk airport since early this morning. Residential area "Spartak" has also come under fire:

http://www.interfax.ru/world/486026

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December 21, 2015, 06:00:14 AM
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Russell Bentley Shows How Russian Children Help Donbass - Vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIIDYsC_hME&feature=youtu.be

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