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Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed. Lol.. I am waiting for the winter to end. Some 1.3 million immigrants traveled to Europe from the middle east during the September-November 2015 time period. My guess is that some 3 to 4 million are going to make the trip during the 2016 March-November period. It will be fun to watch them arriving in Germany and Sweden.  |
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Soon enough it´ll be March and then it´ll be spring before they know it. Calmer seas and much better travel conditions in Europe. They´re shitting bricks from fear in Munich. Uncle Sam is threatening to start bombing in Libya again and will probably manage to destabilize the entire North Africa to stimulate the refugee business. Interesting times indeed. Lol.. I am waiting for the winter to end. Some 1.3 million immigrants traveled to Europe from the middle east during the September-November 2015 time period. My guess is that some 3 to 4 million are going to make the trip during the 2016 March-November period. It will be fun to watch them arriving in Germany and Sweden. Yeah, I read somewhere that a third of young Algerians want to go to Europe. If the oil price stays depressed the pressure will increase to move to greener pastures. And also from down below in Africa, Nigeria etc. How many refugees are there in Turkey, 2-3 million? Erdogan has Merkel by the balls. Well, figuratively speaking. It´s a nice extortion racket, keep paying or we´ll send the horde on its way. It´s desperate. What a show. Not so long ago there was much gloating that the Russians were isolated and Putin was a pariah. Well, those experts clearly don´t know their ass from their elbow and certainly don´t have the slightest clue about strategy otherwise they wouldn´t be constantly blundering and underestimating the Russians. It´s almost like those neocon nutballs are Russian agents they´re that effective in screwing everything up that they touch for the United States of America. |
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February 15, 2016, 05:10:58 AM |
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Must be lonely being about alone in bashing Putin on these threads of bitcointalk |
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February 15, 2016, 05:16:57 AM
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Must be lonely being about alone in bashing Putin on these threads of bitcointalk a lot of fun actually  just sad that nobody pays my overtime  |
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February 15, 2016, 05:38:50 AM |
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Lightweight crap trying to peddle sugar-coated dogshit. Small wonder that it´s alone around here in that enterprise.
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February 15, 2016, 05:42:15 AM |
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Lightweight crap trying to peddle sugar-coated dogshit. Small wonder that it´s alone around here in that enterprise.
im shocked or actually im not what a display of literacy and intelligence. no wonder why you people like putin and trump |
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February 15, 2016, 05:48:15 AM |
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Don´t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Might damage your brain.
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February 15, 2016, 06:00:01 AM |
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Don´t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Might damage your brain.
oh dear you seem to have a lot of experience regarding it |
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February 15, 2016, 06:07:46 PM |
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How many refugees are there in Turkey, 2-3 million? Erdogan has Merkel by the balls. Well, figuratively speaking. It´s a nice extortion racket, keep paying or we´ll send the horde on its way. I have no sympathies for Merkel. This was originally her idea, remember? But things didn't quite worked out as per her plans. Now with her approval rating at an all time low, and the Eastern Europeans planning a rebellion against her, Merkel is getting desperate. She is literally begging Erdogan to stop sending in the immigrants. But Erdogan will not let it go without extracting his pound of flesh. |
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Two fun facts. Russia joins OPEC in the moratorium on further oil extraction. https://rns.online/lightnings/Saudovskaya-araviya-soglasilas-zamorozit-dobichu-nefti-2016-02-16/And Russia started selling oil to USA... The last bit is one of the reasons why USA was pushing the price down. If the oil price is any higher, US economy will be in deep trouble. You seem to love links. Let me add this one: http://www.usdebtclock.org/As for Russian economy - it's seen worse during the WWII and post-WWII, and during the desolation of the Wild 90's. It'll persevere. PS: Oh, and criptix, you should seek help for the Western-MSM-induced Putin-fixation. Russian politics is much more than Putin.  PSS: What criptix did, really, is just dump a bunch of links in hopes of creating a sensation out of thin air. Does anyone here say that Russia does not experience economic difficulties? No. Russia has been tightly integrated into the European and American economy during the 90s. When those economies feel ill, so does Russian economy. It's as simple as that.
Criptix' sensationalism plays on the fact that few read Russian press and assume, that the Western MSM publish something sensational that is "hushed up by da evil Putin". If people read Russian media, they'd known that there is a lively public debate about the state of the domestic economy, and what to do about the current recession. So, the ultimate goal of criptix' message was three-fold: create a sensation out of something that is not; perform a character attack on Putin and (in his subsequent message) perform and ad-hominem attack on those, who play a bridge-building role here. If we are anyway to go so much off-topic here, the following translation seems quite appropriate: http://stanislavs.org/andrey-karaulov-those-who-laughed-at-us-yesterday-are-no-longer-laughing-today/Quoting two fragments: ...
Today, the best minds say that the rouble is undervalued by a third. And if the rouble is undervalued, why the hell did it drop relative to the dollar?! With these missiles! Say thanks to Anatoly Chubais – he was one of those who developed the scheme, where the rouble got pegged to the oil price. Some villains turned up, who agreed that the oil in our major export commodity.
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Liberal historian Boris Sokolov counted how many people died over the course of only two years – 1992 and 1993 – during the so-called “reforms” of Gaidar and Chubais. 150.000 more than during the executions of 1937-1938.
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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February 16, 2016, 11:03:48 PM
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I cant read russian. but it's fine because i know that news already. Now ask yourself why mighty russia is now, 56 years after founding of opec, starting talks about joining opec? Exactly, russia's economy is in a deep structural crisis because majority of the income comes from exporting gas & oil. They are pretty much begging the sauds to decrease oil output. And Russia started selling oil to USA...
The last bit is one of the reasons why USA was pushing the price down. If the oil price is any higher, US economy will be in deep trouble.
This makes no sense. Try to read what you just wrote. Price of Oil: July 2008: 145 $/Barrel, Feb 2016: 30$/Barrel Im not US American, sorry doesnt bother me a bit, but i see what you wanna try lol As for Russian economy - it's seen worse during the WWII and post-WWII, and during the desolation of the Wild 90's. It'll persevere. PS: Oh, and criptix, you should seek help for the Western-MSM-induced Putin-fixation. Russian politics is much more than Putin. PSS: What criptix did, really, is just dump a bunch of links in hopes of creating a sensation out of thin air. Does anyone here say that Russia does not experience economic difficulties? No. Russia has been tightly integrated into the European and American economy during the 90s. When those economies feel ill, so does Russian economy. It's as simple as that. Sorry, but facts are what they are: facts. It doesnt matter if you feel sore and think i'm a western MSM-Agent. Russia's economy is in deep shit and everyone knows - it is just a question of time until putins propanda will collapse. Numbers dont lie and the russians numbers regarding economic are pretty bad. I.e. Russias 2016 budget is/was calculated with an avg. crude oil price of 50$ which would follow a 3% deficit. For every 5$ price difference there will be 1% more deficit. And we are just talking about gas & oil - not even thinking about sanctions. (and my source for that is the russian .gov)
Criptix' sensationalism plays on the fact that few read Russian press and assume, that the Western MSM publish something sensational that is "hushed up by da evil Putin". If people read Russian media, they'd known that there is a lively public debate about the state of the domestic economy, and what to do about the current recession. So, the ultimate goal of criptix' message was three-fold: create a sensation out of something that is not; perform a character attack on Putin and (in his subsequent message) perform and ad-hominem attack on those, who play a bridge-building role here. If we are anyway to go so much off-topic here, the following translation seems quite appropriate: http://stanislavs.org/andrey-karaulov-those-who-laughed-at-us-yesterday-are-no-longer-laughing-today/Quoting two fragments: ...
Today, the best minds say that the rouble is undervalued by a third. And if the rouble is undervalued, why the hell did it drop relative to the dollar?! With these missiles! Say thanks to Anatoly Chubais – he was one of those who developed the scheme, where the rouble got pegged to the oil price. Some villains turned up, who agreed that the oil in our major export commodity.
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Liberal historian Boris Sokolov counted how many people died over the course of only two years – 1992 and 1993 – during the so-called “reforms” of Gaidar and Chubais. 150.000 more than during the executions of 1937-1938.
... Good lord, if i would be paranoid or a conspiracy nutjob i would now think that the KG... aeh FSB is targeting me LOL (but no, im not a russian hater or cia agent) Or of course you are right and their is a world wide anti putin & russia conspiracy going on  |
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the only reason for visting russia, is for their women.
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February 17, 2016, 04:52:57 AM |
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February 18, 2016, 06:12:24 PM |
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It´s not unlikely that there´ll be some action. The other front, in Syria, is about to be rolled up. But has the Ukraininan military improved in the last year? They didn´t seem to amount to much. And somehow I doubt that U.S./NATO training is worth more than in other places, Iraq Afghanistan etc. It´s the same basic problem I think, the high command is awful which means terrible officers and this reflects in the troops, not least morale. |
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Lean Peace. Why Ukraine is not fulfilling its obligations regarding Donbass?http://stanislavs.org/lean-peace-why-ukraine-is-not-fulfilling-its-obligations-regarding-donbass/February the 12th marks one year of “Minsk-2” – Donbass agreements, concluded after a night of negotiations of leaders of Russia, Germany, France and Ukraine. Kiev is still not in a hurry to fulfilling its obligations.
Meanwhile, as “AiF” discovered, the residents of Donbass still have to go to work over the minefields.
They are still shooting
The main condition for the implementation of the Minsk agreements still remains a complete cease-fire, however not even a full “regime of silence” was ever established in the Donbass. The OCSE mission report clearly states: shooting goes on. Only on the 2nd of February there were recorded “514 explosions of uncertain origin”, “more than 100 firing bursts from heavy machine guns” and “more than 1,000 rounds of small arms at a distance of 3-5 km to the west of the observers’ position in a controlled by DPR (Donetsk People’s Republic) railway station in Donetsk”.
The shootings already gave Kiev a pretext to close 2 checkpoints over the line of contact. For residents of Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republic it is worse than the shootings. First, it is becoming increasingly difficult to legally “cross the border”. Second, the economic blockade of Donbass, which according to “Minsk-2” should have been removed, is on the contrary only strengthened.
“The pensioners who can not receive a pension are affected the most. Vehicles carrying humanitarian aid and medical supplies are blockaded. All this is nothing more than a continuation of the genocide of the people of Donbass by the Ukrainian government,” – Eduard Basurin, a spokesman for the Ministry of Defence of DPR, tells AiF. He believes that Kiev at the same time achieves another goal – protecting the Ukrainians from the truth about the life in the republics: “This is due to the significant difference in prices on the main categories of foods in the border regions of Ukraine and the DPR. Bread, milk, vegetables and potatoes, cereals and other products are cheaper in Donetsk than in Ukraine.” By the way, peaceful life – in spite of the disruptions of water supply and the economic blockade – is really getting back on track. Kindergartens, schools, hospitals, shops, cafes and restaurants are working. Factories have started up. For example, “Stirol”, one of the flagships of the chemical industry of Donbass, has again been started. And this means jobs and wages. The main problem – the sale of produce in the conditions of a blockade. However, entrepreneurs engaged in the installation of windows have no problems of this kind – after the war, the demand for their services is highest ever.
We must understand that the lives of many ordinary people, who find themselves on opposite sides of the demarcation line, is associated with the “enemy” territory in spite of the blockade. From DPR and LPR (Lugansk People’s Republic) people go “abroad” not only for pensions, but also to work. Thus, the press service of the OSCE mission said that the residents of the two villages near Gorlovka literally have to go across a minefield due to the closure of the checkpoint “Zaytsevo”: “They go on the mines to get to the controlled by Kiev Artemovsk, otherwise they run the risk of losing the jobs.” Not everything is simple with the pensions either. Some pensioners registered on the territory controlled by Kiev, and they cross the checkpoint every month to get the payments. But there are many of those who did not go to a compromise, and still can not get a pension. Dmitry Popov, manager of the Ombudsman of the DPR apparatus tells AiF that Kiev ignores the decisions of the Ukrainian(!) Courts regarding paying overdue pensions to the pensioners, who reside on the territory of the republic. Almost 15000 pensioners of Donbass prepared a lawsuits for the Ukrainian courts to recognize the Presidential Decree for the non-payment of pensions as illegal. Some of the lawsuits were satisfied by the courts of the first instance. Kiev said that while Ukrainian banks, treasury and financial management is not operating on the territory of DPR and LPR, the implementation of the decision impossible. However, they do not operate here not at the whim of the authorities of DPR and LPR, but because of the blockade of Kiev, which no one is intending to lift until the political issues are solved.
Why do they not want to agree?
Strictly speaking, all of the Minsk process has stalled on two points: the special status of Donbass (and related amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine), and the local elections on the territory of the DPR and LPR. Rada deputies, ignoring the “Minsk-2” agreement, did not vote for the amendments and moved the issue to the next session. Rather than comply with the requirements of Paris, Berlin, Moscow and even Washington, with regard to the ratification of such amendments, the deputies adopted some other amendments – regarding the rules of procedure of Parliament. Apparently, it is these subtleties of Ukrainian parliamentarism, which allow Kiev to sabotage the “Minsk-2”, that President Poroshenko was explaining last week to Angela Merkel in Berlin. Or perhaps he honestly admitted that he simply does not have enough votes in the parliament to fulfil his commitments.
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a possible compromise on the 19th of January, and it was later supported by Boris Gryzlov, the Russian representative in the contact group on the settlement of the situation in Ukraine. “According to «Steinmeier’s formula», you first need to hold elections in Donbass, and then use the emerging legitimate authorities for approval of the constitutional reform and other laws. But neither the Parliament, nor Poroshenko are yet ready for this,” said Konstantin Bondarenko, head of the Foundation “Ukrainian politics”. “Meanwhile the West is already barely holding back its irritation with Kiev’s policy as it is suffering from the sanctions not less than Russia. And if the ball does not get rolling on the implementation of the Minsk agreements, then, taking into account the forthcoming elections in their countries, Hollande and Merkel will try to demonstrate to Ukraine that if it will not abide by the agreement, then no one will talk to it.”
Not only the procedural matters complicate the situation with the local elections: Kiev demands that voting takes place according to the party lists, with the resumption of broadcasting (read – propaganda) of the Ukrainian TV channels for the whole of Donbass, while the Republics insist on elections by the majority system. If the West recognizes the elections, the Kiev regime will no longer be able to talk to Donbass using the language of force, consider these territories as occupied, and blame everything on Russia… “Kiev will be playing for time for another six months, while Donbass will continue the construction of its statehood, which sooner or later everyone will have to recognise. At the same time Donbass will be restoring its economy, which is quite powerful and self-supporting.” – said political analyst Sergei Mikheev.
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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For the same reason Russians were sending troops across border when the ink on that agreement has not dried up yet. The agreement was basically to regroup and resupply. Rinse and repeat. Do you seriously think Russians could not get this done? I mean overpower Ukrainian army and get what they want, annex Russian speaking eastern parts of Ukraine. I think they for some strange reason don't want to do it. Maybe it was "under the table" deal with the Americans. You know, we'll let you do whatever you want in Syria, but stop the aggression in Ukraine. Who knows? But either side could have resolved this conflict militarily by now. Not sure why this conflict is being dragged for so long. Maybe because it is making money for some people. I don't think Russians will ever give up their claims to the Eastern Ukraine. It is a good political posturing for Putin, you know "There are Russians in Ukraine that we need to help ...blah, blah...". I think in the end Russia will control all of Syria and Iraq. Then they will turn their attention to Eastern Europe: Ukraine, Moldova, Baltic states. IMHO, Washington dropped the ball on both Ukraine and Syria. But Obama is not Putin. He is a pencil neck comparing to Putin. |
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For the same reason Russians were sending troops across border when the ink on that agreement has not dried up yet.
The agreement was basically to regroup and resupply. Rinse and repeat.
Do you seriously think Russians could not get this done? I mean overpower Ukrainian army and get what they want, annex Russian speaking eastern parts of Ukraine. I think they for some strange reason don't want to do it. Maybe it was "under the table" deal with the Americans. You know, we'll let you do whatever you want in Syria, but stop the aggression in Ukraine.
Who knows? But either side could have resolved this conflict militarily by now. Not sure why this conflict is being dragged for so long.
Maybe because it is making money for some people.
I don't think Russians will ever give up their claims to the Eastern Ukraine. It is a good political posturing for Putin, you know "There are Russians in Ukraine that we need to help ...blah, blah...". I think in the end Russia will control all of Syria and Iraq.
Then they will turn their attention to Eastern Europe: Ukraine, Moldova, Baltic states.
IMHO, Washington dropped the ball on both Ukraine and Syria. But Obama is not Putin. He is a pencil neck comparing to Putin.
Why keep making such complex conspiracy theories? The answer is mostly simple: Ukrainians are not an uniform society. There's enough native Ukrainians that remember (or learned about) Stephen Bandera and UPA as well as other incidents around WWII. They will not want them to reoccur while they are alive, no matter what is on the flag. There are now nearly permanent rifts through the societies of the people living in the region. It isn't gonna change quickly. |
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I don't think Russians will ever give up their claims to the Eastern Ukraine. It is a good political posturing for Putin, you know "There are Russians in Ukraine that we need to help ...blah, blah...". I think in the end Russia will control all of Syria and Iraq.
You are right on one point: Russia will not give up its claim on Russia. af_newbie, study history. Some short headline news: During 2015, almost 2 million refugees from Donbass came to Russia, according to Russian Federal Migration Services. According to UN, over 9000 civilians were killed in Donbass as the result of the conflict: http://ria.ru/society/20160226/1380685823.htmlUkraine and Lugansk People's Republic exchanged PoWs using 3 for 6 formula (in favour of Ukraine). The exchange happened near town Schastje (means "Happiness" in Russian): http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2698836LNR reports that Ukrainians pulled 10 tanks and 25 self-propelled howitzers to the contact line near Artjomovsk: http://ria.ru/world/20160226/1380770487.html |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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