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December 23, 2019, 09:49:07 AM
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Most people, including me can validate 2 nodes easily already, more time and I will have time for 3
I can do that too. If i get easy flips I'm done after 40 seconds but most often i get 1-2 dump flips on which i spend 1 min thinking about the story that is not there or thinking about which story will be chosen by network because both are possible. In most cases those flips do not reach consensus but sometimes consensus is made by 4 users and for such small group everything is possible. Having this extra time allows me to validate every time which won't be possible trying to validate 2 nodes. So I do agree that it is possible to validate 2 nodes in 2 min but not with 100% accurate. After 1-2 validation you will get dump flip and both accounts will be suspended. Then your next validation will look like poptok1's and your node and your stack will be gone.

I agree that the team should burn his premine down to 10-20% they even get rewards from the network for funding, it is only affecting future value IMO as people will never buy if the team can dump and drag the price to 0 at any moment, especialy if they are anonymous the risk is even higher. Because when you read the website they talk about a few whales owning all the coins with ethereum and bitcoin etc. and how Idena is different but this is exactly the same, even worse. After like 10 years their premine will still be 50% of the supply... I think it's better to have only 10% and real value and growth potential than all the cake worth nothing because the market is smarter now and nobody will buy this if they know how huge is the pre-mine. It is also impacting the rate of the network growth as a lot of people don't even care about the free coins when they see this.

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December 23, 2019, 12:39:36 PM
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Any bounty for this project??
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December 23, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
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Any bounty for this project??
Not any more, there was a competition for the best introductory video on youtube but it was completed recently.

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The Idena team has decided to reward the following community members for creating Idena validation video explainers:
- The address 0xe559a5d7d4537bebca58dd2da94b44a0d6178fee for the video youtu.be/_gjlen39Dk0 – 2000 DNA
- The address 0x3ef05f183e7fe1356159a0b929c5d33e4d89d7f9 for the video https://youtu.be/Wxp6Kb3iVD0 - 2000 DNA
- The address 0x3ef05f183e7fe1356159a0b929c5d33e4d89d7f9 for the video https://youtu.be/QXE6rKkGm1A - 2000 DNA
- The address 0x51031f68c0fcb754c0f1918c1b8d48ac22823ece for creating a series of videos in various languages - 2000 DNA. If proofreading of the Google translation is arranged and respective changes are made to the videos, we'll be happy to consider rewarding the effort and to recommend the videos to Idena newcomers.

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December 23, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
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I agree that dev team should distribute or lock part of premine, and there should be some voting for this,
but we are still early and not yet ready for mainnet and wide adoption for more people.
There are still bugs that are solved all the time, but there is potential for real use cases and not just some fantasy story that most shitcoins have

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December 28, 2019, 12:36:27 PM
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I just visited the idena website then downloaded the wallet and the node too. The synchronization process which I initially thought took a long time was very fast, maybe with the help of the node that I downloaded earlier. This project is very good for 2020 because the unique validation process plus this is very different from other altcoins.
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December 29, 2019, 09:06:02 AM
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I just visited the idea website then downloaded the wallet and the node too. The synchronization process which I initially thought took a long time was very fast, maybe with the help of the node that I downloaded earlier. This project is very good for 2020 because the unique validation process plus this is very different from other altcoins.


Just got an invite code, download the software fully synched it and now I am on a candidate status next validation will happen 1/2/2020 9:30 pm on my computer I have no idea how this flip will be complete because there are no videos I just know I have to finish this in two minutes.
Questions: Any videos about flipping there are no videos on English about this, and how many coins can I earn if I have computer mining in 8 hours daily.
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Just got an invite code, download the software fully synched it and now I am on a candidate status next validation will happen 1/2/2020 9:30 pm on my computer I have no idea how this flip will be complete because there are no videos I just know I have to finish this in two minutes.
Questions: Any videos about flipping there are no videos on English about this, and how many coins can I earn if I have computer mining in 8 hours daily.

I've found a video for you. It shows full validation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNZfc15h43o&feature=youtu.be

With 154 miners idena network currently have you will receive ~ 220 coins for validation, ~350 for flips (if you are at least newbie and created 3 flips that reach consensus) and ~ 7coins/h of mining (51840 (daily distribution) * 0,5 (block mining rewards) / 154 (number of active miners) / 24)


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December 29, 2019, 09:24:45 AM
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Questions: Any videos about flipping there are no videos on English about this, and how many coins can I earn if I have computer mining in 8 hours daily.
I guess there are no vids in English that show how validation is conducted, however there is this semi official video in Chinese (I think). You don't need English voice-over explanation, process is simple enough to just understand by looking at it. Mute the sound and observe. As to how many coins in 8 hours of mining, I think it will be something around 37.5.

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December 29, 2019, 04:47:05 PM
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Questions: Any videos about flipping there are no videos on English about this, and how many coins can I earn if I have computer mining in 8 hours daily.
I guess there are no vids in English that show how validation is conducted, however there is this semi official video in Chinese (I think). You don't need English voice-over explanation, process is simple enough to just understand by looking at it. Mute the sound and observe. As to how many coins in 8 hours of mining, I think it will be something around 37.5.

Thanks for this video my account is now a candidate status and will have to wait before January 2 before I can get my account to join the validation, I have bookmarked the date and looking forward to my first validation, how many validations do I need before I get my account validated and I read that on my third validation I can invite people, and do we have incentives if invite others using our code?
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December 29, 2019, 04:59:09 PM
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Thanks for this video my account is now a candidate status and will have to wait before January 2 before I can get my account to join the validation, I have bookmarked the date and looking forward to my first validation, how many validations do I need before I get my account validated and I read that on my third validation I can invite people, and do we have incentives if invite others using our code?
No welcome, you should also give thanks to Tytanowy Janusz that actually found the video you where asking for Smiley
After your very first validation is successful, network will accept you as validated person and mining will be available to you.
3rd successful validation will unlock your first invite and yes you get commission from refereed people but only if they also succeed at validation. It may be a good idea to give invites to solid folks, that you know are smarter than a typical bot  Cheesy

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Thanks for this video my account is now a candidate status and will have to wait before January 2 before I can get my account to join the validation, I have bookmarked the date and looking forward to my first validation, how many validations do I need before I get my account validated and I read that on my third validation I can invite people, and do we have incentives if invite others using our code?
No welcome, you should also give thanks to Tytanowy Janusz that actually found the video you where asking for Smiley
After your very first validation is successful, network will accept you as validated person and mining will be available to you.
3rd successful validation will unlock your first invite and yes you get commission from refereed people but only if they also succeed at validation. It may be a good idea to give invites to solid folks, that you know are smarter than a typical bot  Cheesy

I've thanked him by giving him merit, he deserves it I'm waiting for my validation before I can mine it I'm glad I got in this early I hope I will not miss it, my validation will happen at 1/2/2020 9:30 pm sorry for asking this, it may be asked before but is it synced to my computer time I just don't want to miss the validation time.
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December 30, 2019, 02:50:05 PM
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...is it synced to my computer time I just don't want to miss the validation time.
If by any chance, your system is out of sync with the current "global atomic second" your synchronisation with the Idena network would not be possible at all. So, if you are synced, you have peers and correct status (wait for validation), you are all set and validation will start automatically in the time it is announced. Also, if you want to be extra sure, subscribe to the telegram official channel of Idena, it gives several prompts (4hours, 30 minutes and 5 minutes) prior to validation. 

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Just a reminder that next Idena Validation is on January 2 at 2:30 PM CET or 1:30 PM UTC time.
Make sure to be online, sync and get ready to solve some flips

Idena Telegram: https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic
Idena Discord: https://discord.gg/uJbkuJg

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January 02, 2020, 11:15:10 AM
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Just a reminder that next Idena Validation is on January 2 at 2:30 PM CET or 1:30 PM UTC time.
Make sure to be online, sync and get ready to solve some flips

Idena Telegram: https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic
Idena Discord: https://discord.gg/egaWtsf

Thanks for reminding us I have tried a flip challenge here https://flips.idena.io/ and I got the 19 out of 29 which is only 65% accuracy, what is the correct ratio for a correct answer so I can get my account validated and start mining.
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Thanks for reminding us I have tried a flip challenge here https://flips.idena.io/ and I got the 19 out of 29 which is only 65% accuracy, what is the correct ratio for a correct answer so I can get my account validated and start mining.


50% in current short session
75% in total in short sessions (so you need 75% in first validation and that is your answer - 4/5 flips have to be correct or 3/4 if one did not reach consensus)
75% in current long session

https://idena.io/?view=faq#faq-validation-4


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Well, network lost 10 participants this week and I can tell you why exactly it had happened.
Two minutes prior to validation, node disconnected and went out of sync.
Synchronisation finalised exactly the moment short session ended.  Undecided  that's it.
Strange coincidence that had nothing to do with internet connection itself, as it was working fine.
Not sure I'm interested in further mining, especially that I was suspended anyway.
If anyone would like to buy some 13.5K idena from me, let me know.
Second time in a row, node disconnects right before the validation begins, while the entire week it was running without any problems.
Mining penalty was unfairly added to my account, same troubles with synchronisation, luckily this time it got me synced a few seconds before the validation session. It didn't load to full extent though, as there was only 2 peers connected with me, my client was unable to load the key words, and it was loading for 44 seconds of my precious validation time. If this continues, I see no future for Idena  Undecided it's just getting infuriating and will discourage people in the future. I also got the feeling that the network wants me out for some reason...
Fix it or perish! O and BTW what kind of a genius makes all those inconsistent basketball stories? Geez  Roll Eyes

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Now that's something new, Status:Suspended - Validation result:Late submission - right answers 5/5  Huh

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Well, network lost 10 participants this week and I can tell you why exactly it had happened.
Two minutes prior to validation, node disconnected and went out of sync.
Synchronisation finalised exactly the moment short session ended.  Undecided  that's it.
Strange coincidence that had nothing to do with internet connection itself, as it was working fine.
Not sure I'm interested in further mining, especially that I was suspended anyway.
If anyone would like to buy some 13.5K idena from me, let me know.
Second time in a row, node disconnects right before the validation begins, while the entire week it was running without any problems.
Mining penalty was unfairly added to my account, same troubles with synchronisation, luckily this time it got me synced a few seconds before the validation session. It didn't load to full extent though, as there was only 2 peers connected with me, my client was unable to load the key words, and it was loading for 44 seconds of my precious validation time. If this continues, I see no future for Idena  Undecided it's just getting infuriating and will discourage people in the future. I also got the feeling that the network wants me out for some reason...
Fix it or perish! O and BTW what kind of a genius makes all those inconsistent basketball stories? Geez  Roll Eyes

I'm sorry to read that I got validated from the network and now started mining Idena next validation will happen on the 7th of this month I hope I will not encounter any issue like you've had, but devs should address this issue, it's a young project and every issue must be address along the way.

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January 02, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
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What is going on I wonder? I solved all the flips but the explorer says that I missed validation  Huh
https://scan.idena.io/answers?epoch=29&identity=xxx replace the xxx with your address and visit that site.
Its a summary of your doings in the last epoch, there you will find the reason for your suspension.
My guess will be "late submission" because I also had it this time. There must be something wrong with the protocol, network is not propagating information fast enough, time stamps are correct but for some reason network sees them as uploaded after the set time.

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January 03, 2020, 12:01:02 AM
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Before you start with Idena it is good if you can read documentation on website and watch tutorial videos that are posted on Telegram.
Download and sync Idena.
Ask more questions in Idena Telegram or Discord

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January 03, 2020, 01:35:16 AM
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What is going on I wonder? I solved all the flips but the explorer says that I missed validation  Huh

This could be the reason why
Your current short validation session’s score should be 50% or more.
Your total score for short validations (including the current validation session and all the previous ones) should be 75% or more.
Your current long session’s score should be 75% or more.

In addition, you have to solve flips both correctly and fast. The first 5 flips must be solved in less than 2 minutes.

You can find all the answer about validation here I almost missed this one reading before I start my validation

https://idena.io/?view=faq#faq-validation-4
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