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February 23, 2020, 02:50:06 PM
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Another EPOCH passed and Idena is still here, now the next verification will be on a week day, this will definetly make the things interesting.

Yes it will indeed.
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February 23, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
Last edit: February 23, 2020, 04:18:49 PM by Tytanowy Janusz
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Hello good people of Idena supporters.  Smiley

Please someone give me an invite. I promise I will do the flips right (and on time) and get validated.
Hello
Pm me your telegram address. I can send you invitation but i have few extra requirements:

1- i want to have contact with you during validation day
2- If you will remain offline 1h before validation I'll terminate your invitation to invite another person
3- rule no.2 relates also to your second and third validation

I decided to go with that because out of 17 invitations that i've sent only 4 was not wasted (or partly wasted - f.e. missed second or third validation).
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February 23, 2020, 10:53:46 PM
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I decided to go with that because out of 17 invitations that i've sent only 4 was not wasted (or partly wasted - f.e. missed second or third validation).

That is one bad score mate.
We sure need to set some basic community rules regarding Invitations, to avoid such things.

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February 24, 2020, 02:43:09 AM
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Good coins, mainly test IQ, hahaha Grin Grin Grin
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February 24, 2020, 06:41:08 AM
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I decided to go with that because out of 17 invitations that i've sent only 4 was not wasted (or partly wasted - f.e. missed second or third validation).

That is one bad score mate.
We sure need to set some basic community rules regarding Invitations, to avoid such things.

My last two codes are also not successful the first one failed to sync the wallet the second one failed to pass the validation because of to many wrong answer, you really can't be sure if your invite will be successful because some of them are new to this turing test, they do not know how to solve or do these during test even those who passed the test challenge.

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February 24, 2020, 07:26:54 AM
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Hello good people of Idena supporters.  Smiley

Please someone give me an invite. I promise I will do the flips right (and on time) and get validated.
Hello
Pm me your telegram address. I can send you invitation but i have few extra requirements:

1- i want to have contact with you during validation day
2- If you will remain offline 1h before validation I'll terminate your invitation to invite another person
3- rule no.2 relates also to your second and third validation

I decided to go with that because out of 17 invitations that i've sent only 4 was not wasted (or partly wasted - f.e. missed second or third validation).


Out of 19 all, 12 are still going on the network. If I were the one that initially invited you I would terminate your identity right away. You can't just force people to be active, invitations should be given as good will for users to get to know better the network even if it is just a test net.

Right now you are looking for more than what it is normal from a user just because you don't want to lose some free benefits.

Terrible.

She's crazy like a fool.
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February 24, 2020, 07:33:25 AM
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That is one bad score mate.
We sure need to set some basic community rules regarding Invitations, to avoid such things.

If someone will validate once i'll get ~100DNA, for second validation 300DNA, for third 600DNA (currently). That's why if someone will validate twice I still consider this as partly wasted invitation because I get only 40% coins that i could get.
In fact only 2 members that i've invited validated 3 times. I name 4 in my previous post because rest 2 are from times where you get full reward after first validation (before epoch 27).

I think that my rules are must have if you take IDENA serious and want to have as much successful invitation as it is possible. They are also fair for invited person.


If I were the one that initially invited you I would terminate your identity right away.
Its impossible after third validation. I'm 20 epoch old.

You can't just force people to be active, invitations should be given as good will for users to get to know better the network even if it is just a test net.

Right now you are looking for more than what it is normal from a user just because you don't want to lose some free benefits.

Terrible.

You should be on telegram during validation day to see how valuable and rare invitations are currently. Dozens of people were begging for invitation. There is really lack of them and on the other hand there are being wasted by morons. I do not force anyone to take invitation from me. They can go on telegram and do some begg-spam.

My rules are good for network and if you are not in front of computer 30 min before validation you will most likely miss it, because you have to update your node, check if its synchronized, simply check if everything is right.

Right now you are looking for more than what it is normal from a user just because you don't want to lose some free benefits.

Terrible.
If someone is missing second or third validation he is simply wasting invitation because he needs to collect another one to re-join network. Benefits are set that way by devs to promote behaviour that is good for network. It is good for network that 1 invitation = 1 validated member not 5 invitations=1 validated member + 4 morons that wasted invitation.
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February 24, 2020, 07:55:44 AM
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And you find it normal that tens of users are humilating on the telegram channel for an invite to a free blockchain? Those who received the invites had to do the same? As I remember when I first asked I received 10 PM's in seconds; now everyone got greedy.

IT'S GOD DAMN FUCKING FREE!

I am waiting for the next 2 epochs, both will be during weekdays, I am curious how many people will succeed to go through with it, for sure even old users will terminate their stake not to lose it.

I also heard arguments on telegram like: "now that it is on exchange anyone want to get in" . Qtrade can't be called as being an exchange and the value just for verification and mining a week it is not worth the time.

You have no idea how many good users you can lose just because you are sticking to your annoying rules; find the users you believe they are worthy without restricting them to your needs (i am not sure this make any sense).

She's crazy like a fool.
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February 24, 2020, 08:07:28 AM
Last edit: February 24, 2020, 08:54:22 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
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And you find it normal that tens of users are humilating on the telegram channel for an invite to a free blockchain? Those who received the invites had to do the same? As I remember when I first asked I received 10 PM's in seconds; now everyone got greedy.

IT'S GOD DAMN FUCKING FREE!


It's not about being greedy. During epoch 15-25 there was more invitations than people willing to take them. Now it's opposite of that and it accelerated after exchange listing. Now i can choose between 10 people willing to join network. What should i do? Pick random guy that will waste my invitation? Speak with him for hours to check if he is "find the users you believe they are worthy without restricting them to your needs"? I simply present them my rules and if they agree i send them code. During validation day i PM them with:

-Remember about today validation please. If you need anything just ask.
-I'm fine

If you call this
"humilating on the telegram channel for an invite to a free blockchain? Those who received the invites had to do the same?" than we will not reach an agreement.

And yes... it is an exchange ... real exchange without fake volume, transaction mining and other scam things. It requires no KYC (you need to fill form with basic data but without ID scans) for up to 2000$ daily withdrawal. Price is also fair. Full validation with complet of 3 invitations rewards is equal to 100$ in DNA.

I am waiting for the next 2 epochs, both will be during weekdays, I am curious how many people will succeed to go through with it, for sure even old users will terminate their stake not to lose it.

Yes. I'm also interrested in next validation resoults that will happen in monday.
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February 24, 2020, 08:27:53 AM
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I will do it later I have run but for now the entire set up is now gone I have it running for a few hours but after I close my putty and tried to run it again using remote note it is offline again I used the code
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my node is running in putty,
Can you please send me the code that you are using so I can extract my api key in putty instead of login in my Vps

1) You will need to keep the Putty window open when you run the Desktop wallet app.
2)  I don't understand what you mean with: Can you please send me the code that you are using so I can extract my api key in putty instead of login in my Vps
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February 24, 2020, 10:21:22 AM
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The idea of this project is very good, but there are still issues with wallets and flips but overall I think the project will be successful and eventually will hit big exchange.
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February 24, 2020, 10:31:54 AM
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The idea of this project is very good, but there are still issues with wallets and flips but overall I think the project will be successful and eventually will hit big exchange.

What is the issue you have with the wallets and flips?
Post them in here and maybe some community members will help you with them.

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February 24, 2020, 10:44:16 AM
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It is time to renew statistics on flips:

Epoch #32: 625 flips in total,   3.2% of which are with weak consensus, 3.5% are without consensus, 2.0% are bad flips
Epoch #33: 729 flips in total,   3.8% of which are with weak consensus, 5.1% are without consensus, 2.3% are bad flips
Epoch #34: 887 flips in total,   7.1% of which are with weak consensus, 7.8% are without consensus, 1.1% are bad flips
Epoch #35: 933 flips in total,   4.9% of which are with weak consensus, 6.0% are without consensus, 2.4% are bad flips
Epoch #36: 1127 flips in total, 4.9% of which are with weak consensus, 6.2% are without consensus, 1.4% are bad flips
Epoch #37: 1284 flips in total, 4.1% of which are with weak consensus, 6.4% are without consensus, 1.2% are bad flips

So during last two epochs percentage of flips without consensus worsens, level of bad flips decreases gradually. I suggest people try to create more meaningful flips and pay more attention to curation of other's flips.

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February 24, 2020, 01:57:48 PM
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My invite fails in the validation period, although he passed the test in the IDENA flip challenge, his complaints is the time to finish the flips on the first course which is only 2 minutes, is there a way to extend the time to at least 5 minutes, I myself almost run out of time because I have to make a choice 23 seconds per flip, I'm sure there are people with similar experience.

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February 24, 2020, 02:26:38 PM
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The idea of this project is very good, but there are still issues with wallets and flips but overall I think the project will be successful and eventually will hit big exchange.

What is the issue you have with the wallets and flips?
Post them in here and maybe some community members will help you with them.
Mainly my issue is with synching, finding peers no matter what kind of internet I use,  it is always the same. I have read od Discord that I should use VPS (remote server) instead but there is only Linux client option available. I have managed to unpack Linux client (deb. extension) but I have no idea how to run this on Windows.
From Faq channel on discord.
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February 24, 2020, 03:52:02 PM
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My invite fails in the validation period, although he passed the test in the IDENA flip challenge, his complaints is the time to finish the flips on the first course which is only 2 minutes, is there a way to extend the time to at least 5 minutes, I myself almost run out of time because I have to make a choice 23 seconds per flip, I'm sure there are people with similar experience.

No, this will open up the "real person verification system" for abuse.

It will stay as it is according to dev answering the question already multiple times.
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The idea of this project is very good, but there are still issues with wallets and flips but overall I think the project will be successful and eventually will hit big exchange.

What is the issue you have with the wallets and flips?
Post them in here and maybe some community members will help you with them.
Mainly my issue is with synching, finding peers no matter what kind of internet I use,  it is always the same. I have read od Discord that I should use VPS (remote server) instead but there is only Linux client option available. I have managed to unpack Linux client (deb. extension) but I have no idea how to run this on Windows.
From Faq channel on discord.
2.  chmod +x idena-node-linux-0.16.2 (make file possible to run)(??)

The Linux client will not run on Windows.

Learn some basic Linux commands, play with it and then try to run a VPS with Linux.
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My invite fails in the validation period, although he passed the test in the IDENA flip challenge, his complaints is the time to finish the flips on the first course which is only 2 minutes, is there a way to extend the time to at least 5 minutes, I myself almost run out of time because I have to make a choice 23 seconds per flip, I'm sure there are people with similar experience.

I managed to complete the short session for 1 minute and in my opinion it was very easy, sometimes indeed what made the flip so confusing that we had to think long to choose.

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February 24, 2020, 05:06:27 PM
 #539

My invite fails in the validation period, although he passed the test in the IDENA flip challenge, his complaints is the time to finish the flips on the first course which is only 2 minutes, is there a way to extend the time to at least 5 minutes, I myself almost run out of time because I have to make a choice 23 seconds per flip, I'm sure there are people with similar experience.

I managed to complete the first flip phase for 1 minute and in my opinion it was very easy, sometimes indeed what made the flip so confusing that we had to think long to choose.

People are not the same when presented in a situation that is new to him, maybe my friend will better the next time because he will check what went wrong, I'm willing to give him another chance but my invitation will go to my cousin who is very interested, I hope they take my suggestion to lengthen the first verification to at least 4 minutes.

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February 24, 2020, 06:36:23 PM
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The idea of this project is very good, but there are still issues with wallets and flips but overall I think the project will be successful and eventually will hit big exchange.

What is the issue you have with the wallets and flips?
Post them in here and maybe some community members will help you with them.
Mainly my issue is with synching, finding peers no matter what kind of internet I use,  it is always the same. I have read od Discord that I should use VPS (remote server) instead but there is only Linux client option available. I have managed to unpack Linux client (deb. extension) but I have no idea how to run this on Windows.
From Faq channel on discord.
2.  chmod +x idena-node-linux-0.16.2 (make file possible to run)(??)

You can use Linux VPS for the node and Windows client at the same time, there is no need to unpack Linux client or anything like this.
Just set up a VPS and connect from your Wndows client to the VPS, you should have 18 connections all the time.

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