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February 01, 2020, 06:32:32 AM
 #341

You can't monetize invitations because the guy that sells you the invitation could take the money and then kill your identity and also steal your stake during the first 3 epochs
You mean burn your stake, not steal, right?

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February 01, 2020, 01:59:37 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2020, 02:21:42 PM by notblox1
 #342

One more validation twas today, and I think flips are getting a bit better and more logical.
There are some exceptions and bad flips, but in generally speaking most people will be able to solve flips.
We need to make the system super easy for humans and super hard for bots.

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February 01, 2020, 07:12:01 PM
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I can't agree with you about flips getting better. Below is given statistics on validation results:

Epoch #32: 625 flips in total, 3.2% of which are with weak consensus, 3.5% are without consensus, 2.0% are bad flips
Epoch #33: 729 flips in total, 3.8% of which are with weak consensus, 5.1% are without consensus, 2.3% are bad flips
Epoch #34: 887 flips in total, 7.1% of which are with weak consensus, 7.8% are without consensus, 1.1% are bad flips

So percentage of flips with weak consensus and without consensus is rising constantly.

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February 01, 2020, 08:20:53 PM
 #344

I can't agree with you about flips getting better. Below is given statistics on validation results:

Epoch #32: 625 flips in total, 3.2% of which are with weak consensus, 3.5% are without consensus, 2.0% are bad flips
Epoch #33: 729 flips in total, 3.8% of which are with weak consensus, 5.1% are without consensus, 2.3% are bad flips
Epoch #34: 887 flips in total, 7.1% of which are with weak consensus, 7.8% are without consensus, 1.1% are bad flips

So percentage of flips with weak consensus and without consensus is rising constantly.


Just one thing to keep in mind... for this epoch we had changed button, from "Irellevant" to "Report" with aditional explanations which in my opinion got us those additional percent of bad flips...
Rules are now clearer...

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February 02, 2020, 01:41:59 AM
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Report button? Seriously?
Now we should sneak on each other?
Saw an insulting picture - complain;
saw porn - complain;
saw a picture with a link to the drugs - complain;
saw politically incorrect picture - complain;
saw a picture insulting your religion - complain;
etc.
So now you want to know who (which node)created which flip...
Or do you already have this information - which flip which node was created?

Is this your principle of decentralization and anonymity on IDENA blockchain?

Has anyone asked the devs about this?
I see in this topic they don’t appear at all and ignore everything.

In any case, I urge you not to sneak at each other under any circumstances.
Only if there is a technical malfunction and the picture is not displayed. And that’s it.

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February 02, 2020, 05:35:02 AM
 #346

Report button? Seriously?
Now we should sneak on each other?
Saw an insulting picture - complain;
saw porn - complain;
saw a picture with a link to the drugs - complain;
saw politically incorrect picture - complain;
saw a picture insulting your religion - complain;
etc.
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I dont see anyone complaining about flips that contain sensitive materials except for the PORN.

I only report flips that is irrelevant and don't have a meaningful story regardless of the picture involve.
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February 02, 2020, 06:17:50 AM
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Report button? Seriously?
Now we should sneak on each other?
Saw an insulting picture - complain;
saw porn - complain;
saw a picture with a link to the drugs - complain;
saw politically incorrect picture - complain;
saw a picture insulting your religion - complain;
etc.
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I dont see anyone complaining about flips that contain sensitive materials except for the PORN.

I only report flips that is irrelevant and don't have a meaningful story regardless of the picture involve.
And how would you see it? Nobody likes to complain publicly.
That's it, an irrelevant button was enough.
Now a precedent has been set up and everyone can complain about everything if something seems offensive to them.
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February 02, 2020, 06:21:00 AM
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And how would you see it? Nobody likes to complain publicly.
That's it, an irrelevant button was enough.
Now a precedent has been set up and everyone can complain about everything if something seems offensive to them.

On my 4 weeks with idena your the only person ive seen complain about everything.
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February 02, 2020, 06:36:23 AM
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And how would you see it? Nobody likes to complain publicly.
That's it, an irrelevant button was enough.
Now a precedent has been set up and everyone can complain about everything if something seems offensive to them.

On my 4 weeks with idena your the only person ive seen complain about everything.

It's just a troll trying to spread fud. Ignore him/her.
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February 02, 2020, 06:41:57 AM
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And how would you see it? Nobody likes to complain publicly.
That's it, an irrelevant button was enough.
Now a precedent has been set up and everyone can complain about everything if something seems offensive to them.

On my 4 weeks with idena your the only person ive seen complain about everything.

It's just a troll trying to spread fud. Ignore him/her.
Where do you see trolling?
I ask questions.
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February 02, 2020, 01:15:17 PM
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I finally got my first invite and I'm 100% sure that he is going to verify his account because he is a miner and every interested to mine this coin, I think this is the key, you need to fully explain how Idena works and it's potential do not give your code to random people who will just waste your code, I'd like to ask how is there a rewards for verified invite and what is the number IDENA that the system will rewards.

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February 02, 2020, 06:15:32 PM
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I'd like to ask how is there a rewards for verified invite and what is the number IDENA that the system will rewards.

25,920 DNA * number of days in epoch..
then take 32% of that for invitations reward
then group validations by 1st(1x), 2nd(x3), 3rd(x6)
and also apply some math where rewards are distributed "proportionally to the invited person's age⅓"
and distribute it to still Verified idenentities...

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February 03, 2020, 01:49:33 PM
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You can't monetize invitations because the guy that sells you the invitation could take the money and then kill your identity and also steal your stake during the first 3 epochs

That's the whole point glad that only one guy has this mindset of selling a code, we should educate people and ask them to undergo a test first before trying the actual verification, but not selling the code to them it's an invitation to scam people and it will give Idena a bad reputation in the community and it's a bad start for us.

Everyone who owns invitations can do whatever they want with them since this is the role of ownership.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like it either but it is what it is and you can't stop this or ban it.
There will be always nice people giving them for free, so no one will buy them anyway.
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February 03, 2020, 03:03:38 PM
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PRO-TIP for newcomers:
Before you activate invitation code, keep deleting nodekey and restart idena, untill you get the robot avatar that you like Cheesy

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February 03, 2020, 04:41:33 PM
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There are two community based developments open to donations/funding right now:

1) #monitor-bot
Amount Requested: 5000 DNA
Donation Address: 0xa822aabecad4ad0c6d6629b0cd3a2b54a3721c87
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0xa822aabecad4ad0c6d6629b0cd3a2b54a3721c87

Proposed by @Endogen
- user executes a command with the bot and adds his DNA address as an argument
- the bot watches if the node that belongs to that address is online
- user could easily also choose an individual timespan at which the online status should be checked
- if the node isn't online anymore, the bot sends a Telegram / Discord message to the user that added the address
- the monitoring of the node could be easily added and removed by the user
- the service would be free. not payment involved
- no possibility for the bot to actually scam you or anything like that since no RFC call is used and bot is not deployed on users system. it would be just a centralized service that would watch identities that belong to specific wallets.
- no security issues at all since the bot would analyse data that is currently present on the explorer. it would just automate the check for online status
Set Animals pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.Yesterday at 7:33 PM

additional info:
- it will all be open source. so you could just download it (maybe adjust it) and run it on your own system
- after it's done, i could run the service (the bot). but i don't have to. i'm totally fine with admins or anyone else to run it
- will be coded in Python
- my intention was to have that bot on Telegram. but if users demand it on Discord instead, then i'd do it for Discord. Anyway, i plan to have notifications on both systems but let's see how that works out since if you are on Telegram and you talk to the bot but want Discord notifications, not sure if that is easy to get

2) #telegram-vote-bot
Amount Requested: 10000 DNA
Donation Address: 0xcf7ef538769d5eee1983f60c689abc3366163178
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0xcf7ef538769d5eee1983f60c689abc3366163178

Proposed by @Endogen
- Can create polls with configurable answers
- Poll can be set to end on a specific date
- Each option for the poll will have it's own DNA address
- Users can send DNA to each of the possible addresses
- The amount sent doesn't matter. Sending is only used to get "in touch" with validated identities
- At the end-date of the poll, bot will count all unique transactions for each poll option, but only from accounts that are validated
- After poll ends, bot will post result in Telegram IDENA group
- The sent amount of coins will not be returned. so it makes sense to only send very small amounts. basically the minimum amount to be able to create a transaction. Around 0.0000000000000200 DNA
- Everyone (if verified) can create it's own poll with it's own answers
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additional info:
- it will all be open source. you could download the code and run your own bot
- will be coded in Python
- I planed to have it as a Telegram bot but if users demand it on Discord then i will do it for Discord
- i can imagine three types of votes:
1) largest number of votes wins (users just send a minimum amount to an address so that the bot counts their vote)
2) largest amount of DNA wins (users send DNA to the addresses and the vote that gets most DNA wins. every other transaction for every other address will get refunded to the users that payed it - or maybe not, that could be optional)
3) funding proposals (not really a vote, but a proposal with a DNA address and everyone, not only validated accounts, could send DNA in and if a specific amount is reached until date X then the proposal is funded and bot pays the amount out to the address of the developer)
- not sure i want to run this service (bot) since there is DNA involved, i'd hope that admins are willing to run it but if not, i would most probably do it.
- admins of the bot could always extend the enddate or close a vote earlier if necessary
- option that i need to check out first: the bot could generate the DNA addresses that are needed for the votes and thus admins would not need to add an address for each vote manually. but i'm not sure how easy that is. have to check it out first


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First!

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Finally, having a small exchange was very helpful to popularize IDENA. Although the official Idena has not yet announced this news.

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Finally, having a small exchange was very helpful to popularize IDENA. Although the official Idena has not yet announced this news.

Would be great if big exchanger join

Like Bittrex Cheesy

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This is still a testnet, so listing on any exchange is good news for Idena!

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The price is really low at the moment - about 200 sat. But it won't last long I guess.

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