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March 22, 2020, 02:59:56 AM
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I would not be suprised if most of these people were the same as the so called group collecting ID.. the OP seems to be lost and disconnected from the project. page one says he's got something to prevent and discourage people from selling codes but clearly that's what this coin has become.

The scarcity of invites codes leads to the selling of invite code,. Its an option if you don't want to wait for someone to give you one.

If you visit TG group, Most old members don't want to give the codes blindly to random users. Every waste invites cost a good amount of DNA per validation. So they can choose to kept it and earn small rewards from unused codes instead of risking it to some random users.

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March 22, 2020, 12:23:28 PM
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I also got the scam PM from Railai asking for $50 in USD or eth.  It looks like this is shaping up to be another scam coin.

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I can sell an DNA invite. 50 USD in ETH, BTC OR DNA.


And you want it for free? What have to done to this project in order to deserve a free invite? I guess nothing. Do you how the network works? Are you able to reply instant to questions I am going to ask you? Most probably no.
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March 22, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
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you have to be a crook or a complete tool to believe that.

Even if that was the case, it is not the wish of the creator and a stark contrast to what it says on the first page, where it says ask here and there is a plan to discourage selling invites.  This is just another scam from the trash that scour these forums, no matter how you try to excuse it. You guys keeping moving the line when it comes to the coins but at the end of it there is always a scammer or a scam crew in the case of idena . look at the screenshots and read the comments, you post here and you will get a message from Railai the main seller within minutes. You call that a community ? Its a community of third world scammers wheter you like it or not.



The scarcity of invites codes leads to the selling of invite code,. Its an option if you don't want to wait for someone to give you one.

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March 22, 2020, 07:14:07 PM
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Hey gents!

The Discord invite link from the 1st page seems broken: https://discord.gg/egaWtsf gives me the Invite Invalid error.
Could be expired, it says or I don't have the permission to join, maybe because I am new to Discord and the server have some sort of protection. I don't know
Could anyone check the invite link, so you can notify the thread starter to update it? Would be handy for new people.
Anyone can give me an invite to the Discord server if it turns out the one I've used is just expired?

Thank you!
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March 22, 2020, 07:35:57 PM
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Hey gents!
Hello iHodler!
Here you are
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@BluePowder You need to read definition of "scam" word. If someone is selling something that he get for free but it's rare and hard to get does not mean that he is a scammer.

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March 22, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
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Hey gents!
Hello iHodler!
Here you are
https://discord.gg/uJbkuJg

@BluePowder You need to read definition of "scam" word. If someone is selling something that he get for free but it's rare and hard to get does not mean that he is a scammer.

Think a different way, selling something to protect you from losing all, it's a good point. We all know that sending an invite gives you DNA. Him missing validation makes you lose everything.
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March 22, 2020, 09:06:30 PM
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Starting from the subject of selling invite codes, which is not the purpose of this project, but understanding the frustration of the invite issuers that they lost money giving invites to others and the invited people failed to get validated/Verified, I came up with another approach. (before throwing stones, let's see if this works, and maybe other old members can do the same.)

I will give an invite to someone who needs it (since I want the network to grow, as it is supposed to be) with a collateral of 500 DNA.

Why?
• because we already wasted a lot of money an time with people not committed to get at least validated once, not talking about getting Verified.
The reasons were various: they forgot about the validation, they were sleeping, their flips didn't loaded, internet issues, electricity issues, etc, etc...

What this collateral means?
• you will get back the collateral if you succeed to get Verified status.
• you will loose the collateral if you fail to get Verified, whatever the reason you have.

Why should you trust me/others with your money?
• you shouldn't, but then... why should I/they trust you that you'll do the job and you won't waste us the invite/money?

Note:
1) I provide support for installing the wallet, set up the VPS server, understand flips.
2) I don't sell invitation codes. I just make sure you won't waste my money and time.

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March 22, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
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hello guys. we are giving away idena credits and free invites on https://t.me/IdenaPoker
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March 22, 2020, 11:22:35 PM
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@BluePowder You need to read definition of "scam" word. If someone is selling something that he get for free but it's rare and hard to get does not mean that he is a scammer.

scam is a word used loosely. but it is a scam if its not what the project intends. which clearly it isn't if you read page one but regardless its a wankers model anyway, anyone selling codes is short sighted and a lowlife. and no there is no great demand, you fakes make it appear as such so you can sell worthless codes to idiots.

what worse is the lowlife that solicited me is not only selling but also posting here asking others not to give them away and join him in selling.  doomed project when the forum troll runs the show.
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March 23, 2020, 12:21:07 AM
Last edit: March 23, 2020, 12:31:52 AM by notblox1
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Woke up from deep sleep just to talk shit here...

One more of your alt-accounts really?  Tongue
In time of crisis, call your friendly CryptoCrusader.
If you need to burn a witch, call your friendly CryptoCrusader.
If you need to shit on any project, call your friendly CryptoCrusader.
He will spam and do Ban evasion forever, because he can  Roll Eyes

Get a life for God's sake...

Scammers use Bitcoin name all the time, but Bitcoin is not a scam.
Think about that.

PS
This poker thing has NOTHING to do with Idena and should be avoided.

 

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March 23, 2020, 05:23:48 AM
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Starting from the subject of selling invite codes, which is not the purpose of this project, but understanding the frustration of the invite issuers that they lost money giving invites to others and the invited people failed to get validated/Verified, I came up with another approach. (before throwing stones, let's see if this works, and maybe other old members can do the same.)

I will give an invite to someone who needs it (since I want the network to grow, as it is supposed to be) with a collateral of 500 DNA.

Why?
• because we already wasted a lot of money an time with people not committed to get at least validated once, not talking about getting Verified.
The reasons were various: they forgot about the validation, they were sleeping, their flips didn't loaded, internet issues, electricity issues, etc, etc...

What this collateral means?
• you will get back the collateral if you succeed to get Verified status.
• you will loose the collateral if you fail to get Verified, whatever the reason you have.

Why should you trust me/others with your money?
• you shouldn't, but then... why should I/they trust you that you'll do the job and you won't waste us the invite/money?

Note:
1) I provide support for installing the wallet, set up the VPS server, understand flips.
2) I don't sell invitation codes. I just make sure you won't waste my money and time.



I've got with this proposition to the team long before your post. I said: let's do something to prevent scam sells. Everyone NOO. Great.

I do have 4-5 people that bought until now from one, one got verified last round finally and got his money back as bonus, amazing user. But users using a treshold sounds more than normal from my point of view and it is something the dev team should implement in the code of idena.
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March 23, 2020, 05:37:14 AM
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I've got with this proposition to the team long before your post. I said: let's do something to prevent scam sells. Everyone NOO. Great.

I do have 4-5 people that bought until now from one, one got verified last round finally and got his money back as bonus, amazing user. But users using a treshold sounds more than normal from my point of view and it is something the dev team should implement in the code of idena.

I didn't knew you already proposed this, sorry, it seems I've missed your post.

But if more people did thought about this, means is a good proposition, imho.  Cheers!

Actually, your idea is better, implementing this to the code or at least a team member to handle the collateral so users will have more trust to give away their money.

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March 23, 2020, 03:10:59 PM
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Interesting idea. Even the first page doesn't look appealing I will have a look into it.
At first glance looks unique, and because of this I'm tempted to buy some. Did you noted red flags?
Btw, is there other exchanges apart qTrade (I never used them), do I need to KYC in there in order to deposit/withdraw?

There is a fixed cap for minting Idena coins equal to 51,840 DNA per day:

Block mining cap: 50%
Validation reward fund: 12%
Flip reward fund: 16%
Invitation reward fund: 16%
Idena foundation payouts: 5%
Zero wallet fund: 1%

Invitation reward fund: 32%
- A reward for the second validation of an invitee is 3 times bigger than a basic reward for a validated Candidate.
- A reward for a Verified invitee is 6 times bigger than a basic reward for a validated Candidate.

Total premint size: 36,000,000 DNA
Premint structure:
Core team allocation: 17,250,000 DNA
Early investors allocation: 7,065,000 DNA
Ambassadors fund: 365,000 DNA
Reserved for 2020 runway funding: 3,000,000 DNA
Reserved for 2021–2022 runway funding: 8,320,000 DNA

No,there is no Red Flags.

Thanks for the detailed info about mining and rewards distribution @Fakmi Ifajno
I have one more question about Early investors allocation: Is the sale finished or is ongoing? Or this means else?

No one knows,you can not find transactions on https://scan.idena.io/#topaddress
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March 23, 2020, 09:40:35 PM
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This is without a doubt a SCAM coin. should have known by the self moderated sketchy anonymous OP and the disgraceful posters here that call themselves a community. The reason you don't know the extent of the scam is same as all other cions like it, because the creeps are moderating it out.

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March 23, 2020, 10:23:15 PM
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This is without a doubt a SCAM coin. should have known by the self moderated sketchy anonymous OP and the disgraceful posters here that call themselves a community. The reason you don't know the extent of the scam is same as all other cions like it, because the creeps are moderating it out.

And this comment comes from a "person" who has no idea what a scam is. Fuck off moron, you've been here two days and you think anyone's going to take your "advice"?

noob Cheesy

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March 23, 2020, 11:04:26 PM
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Your reply shows how immature the so called community is.. you should argue the topic not the poster. you made the mistake of not addressing the issue and instead shooting the messenger. the fact is what I said is real and present and you can't argue it.

you sound like the fake engineers the 9/11 comission brought in to justify the building crumbling from jet fuel. they're argument was the same, they couldn't sell the broken science so they said the people who claimed otherwise weren't really experts.

this community is mostly retarded or scamming.




And this comment comes from a "person" who has no idea what a scam is. Fuck off moron, you've been here two days and you think anyone's going to take your "advice"?

noob Cheesy

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March 24, 2020, 01:53:36 AM
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Your reply shows how immature the so called community is.. you should argue the topic not the poster. you made the mistake of not addressing the issue and instead shooting the messenger. the fact is what I said is real and present and you can't argue it.

you sound like the fake engineers the 9/11 comission brought in to justify the building crumbling from jet fuel. they're argument was the same, they couldn't sell the broken science so they said the people who claimed otherwise weren't really experts.

this community is mostly retarded or scamming.




And this comment comes from a "person" who has no idea what a scam is. Fuck off moron, you've been here two days and you think anyone's going to take your "advice"?

noob Cheesy

And one more thing, say hello to my ignore list.



You definetly have a mental problem. Right now you need to care more about what you are spending your time. If you believe it is a scam, just let us alone and we will love to enjoy the scam. I love to be scammed by idena.

Just take a break, it is already annoying what you're doing. Let's move forward.
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March 24, 2020, 06:38:37 AM
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This is without a doubt a SCAM coin. should have known by the self moderated sketchy anonymous OP and the disgraceful posters here that call themselves a community. The reason you don't know the extent of the scam is same as all other cions like it, because the creeps are moderating it out.



As far as I can see, your post wasn't moderated (deleted). So your statement is pure FUD.
Anyway if you think this is a scam coin, why don't you leave and find another project, there are thousands out there.
Thanks for the heads up, we will take the risk.

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[img]http://vfl.ru/fotos/52f2931a29984792.html/img] wtf???
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March 24, 2020, 08:57:45 AM
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As far as I can see, your post wasn't moderated (deleted). So your statement is pure FUD.
Anyway if you think this is a scam coin, why don't you leave and find another project, there are thousands out there.
Thanks for the heads up, we will take the risk.
Because he is paid troll to spread FUD.

This is without a doubt a SCAM coin.
You already proved that you don't know what "scam" word means. Your accusation is worthless than.

should have known by the self moderated sketchy anonymous OP and the disgraceful posters here that call themselves a community. The reason you don't know the extent of the scam is same as all other cions like it, because the creeps are moderating it out.
This is not self-moderated topic. Those have annotation on top. So either you are intentionally lying or you know nothing about Bitointalk and your opinion is worthless .. again.


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