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February 07, 2020, 08:43:10 AM
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It is a principle of democracy and decentralization.

That has nothing in common with democracy and decentralization ... I think that you are using big words to spread FUD. Where you have centralization here?

This feature is made not as a tool to attack others/to restrict rights. It is made to make sybil attacks as hard as it is possible.

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The Idena protocol introduces incentives to prevent participants from buying and selling invitations. The person who sells an invitation can kill the invited participant during the next three epochs. The seller can double-spend the invitation by selling it multiple times. Invitations should be granted for free to trusted people only (relatives, friends, and so on).

And all i can do as an inviter is to kill max 2 epoch old account which is worthless (despite few stake coins that will be burned ~5-10$ loss for this poor guy) what will give me 0 profit. What's the point of doing that?

So much FUD, big words and this will harm 1 person out of 1000 only because he took invitation from stupid bustard (and it is not recommended to use/give invitation to random).

I think that you are Troll/paid FUD maker. I suggest everyone to simply ignore him. Maybe he will go away.

Any criticism in your address is immediately perceived as FUD.

Don't like what I write, add me to ignore list.

And I don't using big words to spread FUD, it's yous IDENA team use BIG WORDS to spread shit.
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February 07, 2020, 09:44:27 AM
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."

You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad  Grin
This is what I'm talking about. If at some point the inviter decides that he doesn't like you, he will terminate the invitation.
What kind of decentralization and democracy can we talk about here?
Shit, not a manifesto.

And at the same time the inviter will not earn the rewards from the invitation.

Inviter can judge if you will not use the invitation and instead give it to someone who will not waste it.

And does inviter have extrasensory abilities?
Nope.
Can he predict who will use the code and who will not?
Nope.

If you gave the code to someone, you have no right to recall it back.
It is a principle of democracy and decentralization.
I can prove it.
I've asked invitation directly at main dev Andrew Idena on Telegram.
He gave it to me.
I immediately activated code and report it to AI that I did it.
All was fine. I synced my node. Was preparing to solve flips on test page.
But suddenly after 2 days he terminated my invite.
I didn't do anything bad to Andrew Idena, didn't say a word in main chat at all, only asked invitation code 2 times. But nobody answered me, so I asked code at AI as I told before.
Here's the screenshot.
https://i.imgur.com/go6K4YY.jpg
Who is he after that ? Not a good person at all.
Or as you correctly said
took invitation from stupid bustard (and it is not recommended to use/give invitation to random).

Also coward. Gave invitation code from one admin account, terminated from another admin account.

I will report IDENA project to Forum Admin like a scam project.
Greedy Andrew Idena with 36,000,000 preminted coins who terminate invitations with no reason.
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February 07, 2020, 10:07:23 AM
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I have some questions:

1.- Why are you not using your main account for this accusation? Creating a new account for this is fishy, sorry.
2.- What do you suggest is the purpose of Andrew for such behaviour? They want more users to the network. Maybe this was only an stupid mistake?

Sorry but this accusation is a total nonsense to me....  
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February 07, 2020, 10:10:20 AM
Last edit: February 07, 2020, 10:20:54 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
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FUD bullshit

He terminated your account at 28 of January (candidate without even a single validation done with 0 stake) and next validation was at first of February. So you had 4 days to get new one. You did not loose anything. He did not profit anything. Where is SCAM? Who scammed who? he may have noticed that you are begging for another invitation after you get one from him.

We are tolking about this event ->https://scan.idena.io/tx?tx=0x3aea651a7606b7a7f0eb724d1d12fab2f576c085228797a08265dc599f76a8dd

Also coward. Gave invitation code from one admin account, terminated from another admin account.

That is a lie. He created invitation on the same account that he terminated it.
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February 07, 2020, 10:30:40 AM
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A brainless fucker who creates an account just to troll doesn't deserve any attention.

Troll reported and ignored.
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February 07, 2020, 10:43:14 AM
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I have some questions:

1.- Why are you not using your main account for this accusation? Creating a new account for this is fishy, sorry.
2.- What do you suggest is the purpose of Andrew for such behaviour? They want more users to the network. Maybe this was only an stupid mistake?

Sorry but this accusation is a total nonsense to me....  
1.This is my main account. I didn't use bitcointalk before. Read-only mode.
2.Why do you ask me this question ? Ask AI why he did it.



He terminated your account at 28 of January
Who give him a right to terminate my account after I activated it and reported AI that I ACTIVATE it and AI said OK.
That is a lie. He created invitation on the same account that he terminated it.
Did you see my screenshot ? Why different accounts there ?
My account was activated from address 0xB61721bC3898EEB239A3cC6df7aC4522b258098f
Terminated from 0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x2fa177f08FE1587E627481e797E41c7D659C9927
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February 07, 2020, 10:51:26 AM
Last edit: February 07, 2020, 11:49:02 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
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Who give him a right to terminate my account after I activated it and reported AI that I ACTIVATE it and AI said OK.
EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RIGHT. THAT'S HOW INVITATION SYSTEM IS INVENTED.

Did you see my screenshot ? Why different accounts there ?
My account was activated from address 0xB61721bC3898EEB239A3cC6df7aC4522b258098f
Terminated from 0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x2fa177f08FE1587E627481e797E41c7D659C9927

You need to learn how to use explorer:



https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0xB61721bC3898EEB239A3cC6df7aC4522b258098f
https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x2fa177f08FE1587E627481e797E41c7D659C9927

That's the end of my time for this FUD scam bullshit and those 2 accounts. Everyone who has brain knows what is going on - Paid FUD spamming service or someone with trolling hobby.
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February 07, 2020, 10:52:58 AM
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."

You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad  Grin
This is what I'm talking about. If at some point the inviter decides that he doesn't like you, he will terminate the invitation.
What kind of decentralization and democracy can we talk about here?
Shit, not a manifesto.

And at the same time the inviter will not earn the rewards from the invitation.

Inviter can judge if you will not use the invitation and instead give it to someone who will not waste it.

And does inviter have extrasensory abilities?
Nope.
Can he predict who will use the code and who will not?
Nope.

If you gave the code to someone, you have no right to recall it back.
It is a principle of democracy and decentralization.
I can prove it.
I've asked invitation directly at main dev Andrew Idena on Telegram.
He gave it to me.
I immediately activated code and report it to AI that I did it.
All was fine. I synced my node. Was preparing to solve flips on test page.
But suddenly after 2 days he terminated my invite.
I didn't do anything bad to Andrew Idena, didn't say a word in main chat at all, only asked invitation code 2 times. But nobody answered me, so I asked code at AI as I told before.
Here's the screenshot.

Who is he after that ? Not a good person at all.
Or as you correctly said
took invitation from stupid bustard (and it is not recommended to use/give invitation to random).

Also coward. Gave invitation code from one admin account, terminated from another admin account.

I will report IDENA project to Forum Admin like a scam project.
Greedy Andrew Idena with 36,000,000 preminted coins who terminate invitations with no reason.

That's what I'm talking about.
dev can do what he wants. No decentralization, no democracy.
Only BIG WORDS about it - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..." Copied from idena.io
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February 07, 2020, 10:59:40 AM
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Who give him a right to terminate my account after I activated it and reported AI that I ACTIVATE it and AI said OK.
EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RIGHT. THAT'S HOW INVITATION SYSTEM IS INVENTED.
What did you just say ...
That is, what he wants, he does?
Wanted to terminate and terminated? Simply. Without a reason?
You're an idiot ? Or in a scam team?
First you said that those who terminate invitations with no reason are
took invitation from stupid bustard (and it is not recommended to use/give invitation to random).
and now you said another...with CAPS LOCK. 10 years old  ?
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February 07, 2020, 11:00:00 AM
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And now we have a nice trolling in our Bitcointalk thread. You guys know no project can succeed in the crypto space without trolling right?

This project is getting better every day  Wink
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February 07, 2020, 11:33:21 AM
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And now we have a nice trolling in our Bitcointalk thread. You guys know no project can succeed in the crypto space without trolling right?

This project is getting better every day  Wink
How can you call it trolling if it's true and you see all the links and a screenshot.
It’s easier for you to call it trolling than to ask main dev why he did it?
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February 07, 2020, 11:43:23 AM
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And now we have a nice trolling in our Bitcointalk thread. You guys know no project can succeed in the crypto space without trolling right?

This project is getting better every day  Wink
How can you call it trolling if it's true and you see all the links and a screenshot.
It’s easier for you to call it trolling than to ask main dev why he did it?
Everything is much simpler.
These three person who gave merits are the development team of this coin. As they called themselves "We are an anonymous group of like-minded engineers and computer scientists"
Especially those that gave 4 merit for 1 post ... Why ??

Therefore they are so actively defending this scam, calling the truth - FUD or trolling.
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February 07, 2020, 02:59:55 PM
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And now we have a nice trolling in our Bitcointalk thread. You guys know no project can succeed in the crypto space without trolling right?

This project is getting better every day  Wink

He even created a scam accusations on IDENA but either way the community is growing but he has a point on some of it, the premine indeed has a bad impact but I'm ok with it as long as they used it to develop the project and not to dump when the right time comes.

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February 07, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
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These 2 accounts are sockpuppets for the same troll:

quantumj https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2748354

IDENA-SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2752753
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February 07, 2020, 04:23:18 PM
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I think this is the same person as well:

Crypt0-B https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2657631

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February 07, 2020, 07:02:01 PM
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These trihard newbie fud accounts are funny. It's pretty evident you are putting an effort using multiple accounts but of zero use.
If you have any specific queries ask Andrew in pm.

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February 07, 2020, 08:55:47 PM
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Meanwhile a new version of the Idena app is available: 0.2.0

Changes:
- Zoom in/out function
- Validation flow reworked
- Bug fixes
- Linux version is supported:

https://github.com/idena-network/idena-desktop/releases/download/untagged-ec85acc6c6d3a5b154cb/idena-client-linux-0.2.0.deb

Update is recommended:
https://idena.io/?view=download

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February 08, 2020, 01:29:50 AM
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These trihard newbie fud accounts are funny. It's pretty evident you are putting an effort using multiple accounts but of zero use.
If you have any specific queries ask Andrew in pm.

The dev should start as new thread that is a moderated one, the guy will not stop and will even invite other fudders to come into the scene, but good or bad publicity is still a publicity now people will become curious on IDENA and many will look for information about IDENA and join the community.

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Their accusations are completely far-fetched and stupid. To understand this, it is enough for anyone to install the client on their computer and request an invitation in the telegram chat t.me/idenaNetworkPublic. And make sure that these accusers are just clowns. By the way, just today 08/02/2020 the next round of testing, so today you can earn a little DNA without investing a cent
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February 08, 2020, 06:09:35 AM
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And now we have a nice trolling in our Bitcointalk thread. You guys know no project can succeed in the crypto space without trolling right?

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