[BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon

[eddie13]

I think I saw that he had a warrant for raping a little kid or Something..

https://lakecountygazette.com/stories/549300062-jacob-blake-man-shot-in-kenosha-had-long-history-with-lake-county-law-enforcement

Your link doesn't support your statement.

“Blake is currently facing a rape charge in Kenosha.

A warrant was issued for Blake’s arrest on July 7 on felony 3rd degree sexual assault, disorderly conduct and criminal trespass, all related to domestic abuse.”

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[PrimeNumber7]

I think I saw that he had a warrant for raping a little kid or Something..

https://lakecountygazette.com/stories/549300062-jacob-blake-man-shot-in-kenosha-had-long-history-with-lake-county-law-enforcement

Your link doesn't support your statement.

There is/was a warrant for sexual assault for Jacob Blake. While sexual assault against a child is especially henious, the fact the person Blake allegedly sexually assaulted was not a minor does not change the fact that he is a very bad person.

You left out the fact that he was waiving a knife around.

Not a fact. At least not as of right now.

The officers could be heard telling Blake to drop the knife. That alone is strong evidence he had a knife.

I think the DNC can see that the situation in WI is not favorable to them. The Govenor caved to Trump's pressure to agree to allow the National Guard to help law enforcement, and public opinion on the rioters is quickly declining. The FLOUTS called for the violence to end and called for people to not make assumptions about the situation without first finding out the facts, and this is something that is going to resoniate with Americans.

[nutildah]

the fact the person Blake allegedly sexually assaulted was not a minor does not change the fact that he is a very bad person.

So he deserved to be shot 7 times, is that what you are saying?

The officers could be heard telling Blake to drop the knife. That alone is strong evidence he had a knife.

Having a knife in a car is pretty different from "waiving a knife around" as you previously claimed, and nowhere in the video was he shown to be "waiving a knife around." That is purely speculation designed to bolster your case (that he should be shot in the back 7 times), just as is Eddie's speculation that he raped a child. I have to wonder what is wrong with the both of you to think anything could possibly justify the actions of the officer in this case. The fact that you are both inventing evidence to bolster the case is equally as baffling.

Seems like a long shot for bitfinex to try this hand waiving technique.

BTW, the spelling of the word in this instance is "waving"; "waiving" refers to something else, like waiving your right to remain silent and not incriminate yourself.

[eddie13]

I heard it was something with a minor, I wasn’t sure, I said “or something”, I posted a source of a recent rape charge..

How old was the rape victim then?
Do you know it was not a minor? Or just that it didn’t say that it was?

[nutildah]

Do you know it was not a minor? Or just that it didn’t say that it was?

Okay, well 5 seconds of Google research finds that Wisconsin's statutory rape laws fall under statute 948.02 whereas Blake was charged with violating 940.225(3).

[TwitchySeal]

You left out the fact that he was waiving a knife around.

Not a fact. At least not as of right now.

The officers could be heard telling Blake to drop the knife. That alone is strong evidence he had a knife.

I'm honestly curious, why do you keep doing this?  I know that you're intelligent and more than capable of thinking and behaving logically.

When you said "You left out the fact that he was waiving a knife around.", did you actually believe it was a fact?

Do you really think your response to nutildah justifies your claim that it was a fact?

It seems like you're doing this kind of thing more and more frequently.  You have my word, if you ever admit you said something inacurate for whatever reason, I'll just drop it. Stuff like Never bring it up again.  Everyone messes up and things are complicated right now - adding more bullshit on top won't fix anything.  (And I'm not talking about trolling or being sarcastic)

[squatz1]

You left out the fact that he was waiving a knife around.

Not a fact. At least not as of right now.

The officers could be heard telling Blake to drop the knife. That alone is strong evidence he had a knife.

I'm honestly curious, why do you keep doing this?  I know that you're intelligent and more than capable of thinking and behaving logically.

When you said "You left out the fact that he was waiving a knife around.", did you actually believe it was a fact?

Do you really think your response to nutildah justifies your claim that it was a fact?

It seems like you're doing this kind of thing more and more frequently.  You have my word, if you ever admit you said something inacurate for whatever reason, I'll just drop it. Stuff like Never bring it up again.  Everyone messes up and things are complicated right now - adding more bullshit on top won't fix anything.  (And I'm not talking about trolling or being sarcastic)

Agree with all of this.

It is NOT a fact at all that a knife was being waved around. There are reports of a knife being found in his car after it was searched, but that is all that is being found as of right now. This investigation will continue, and another angel of reporting may come out so that'd be interesting as well. - https://www.fox6now.com/news/doj-identifies-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-says-knife-was-recovered-from-floorboard

[suchmoon]

I would suspect that right now Trump is mad at Laura for stealing his ratings and toppling a confederate statue. What a nasty woman.

Anyone down in Louisiana/East Texas/Arkansas or wherever she's headed next - please stay safe.

[sirazimuth]

Is it just me who's noticed? ... (probably not)
Where the f**k has that p+s legendary obsessive trust abuse posting dude with the anger management problem gone?

Suchmoon's odds are getting better every day....

[suchmoon]

Where the f**k has that p+s legendary obsessive trust abuse posting dude with the anger management problem gone?

Normally I would joke that his signature campaign ended but these days you never know, might be a serious thing, pandemic, riot, hurricane... whatever the reason for his disappearance - thoughts and prayers.

[eddie13]

If you are talking about TS then yeah..
I even owe him a little $ right now and haven’t been able to get ahold of him..

[Nalbo]

As an outsider, I looked over this guy Biden a bit and found him to be a better politician than both Hillary and Trump.
As the last election was a close contest. I don't see why Trump would win this one. But there are many internal and external factors that could swing the votes to any side till the last day of election.

[JollyGood]

Trump is getting more and more desperate or maybe he is playing mind games trying to put Biden off - either way he wants to stay in the news. Have to say funny though 

Trump calls for drug test prior to 2020 Presidential debates citing Biden's increased coherence. Not presidential, not professional, not warranted but that is funny as hell: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-calls-for-drug-tests-before-biden-debate

[sirazimuth]

.... - thoughts and prayers.

How caring of you sm, that will surely help...

..... haven’t been able to get ahold of him..

Well I do hope he's ok. I kinda miss him actually. (in the same sense I miss the FE fella)

Suchmoons odds...etc

[TwitchySeal]

Good example of why people who support Trump think the polls that don't look good for Trump are fake.





"NO INFORMATION about the sample"




"R or D"






"or anything else"

The survey was conducted using KnowledgePanel, the largest and most well-established online probability-based panel that is representative of the adult US population. Our recruitment process employs a scientifically developed addressed-based sampling methodology using the latest Delivery Sequence File of the USPS – a database with full coverage of all delivery points in the US. Households invited to join the panel are randomly selected from all available households in the U.S. Persons in the sampled households are invited to join and participate in the panel. Those selected who do not already have internet access are provided a tablet and internet connection at no cost to the panel member. Those who join the panel and who are selected to participate in a survey are sent a unique password-protected log-in used to complete surveys online. As a result of our recruitment and sampling methodologies, samples from KnowledgePanel cover all households regardless of their phone or internet status and findings can be reported with a margin of sampling error and projected to the general population.

The study was conducted in both English and Spanish. The data were weighted to adjust for gender by age, race/ethnicity, education, Census region, metropolitan status, household income, party identification, race/ethnicity by gender, race/ethnicity by age, and race/ethnicity by education. The demographic benchmarks came from the 2019 March supplement of the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey (CPS). Party ID benchmarks are from recent ABC News/Washington Post telephone polls. The weighting categories were as follows:

Gender (Male, Female) by Age (18–29, 30–44, 45–59, and 60+)
Race/Hispanic Ethnicity (White Non-Hispanic, Black Non-Hispanic, Other or 2+ Races Non-Hispanic, Hispanic)
Education (High School graduate or less, Some College, Bachelor and beyond)
Census Region (Northeast, Midwest, South, West)
Metropolitan status (Metro, non-Metro)
Household Income (Under $25,000, $25,000-$49,999, $50,000-$74,999, $75,000-$99,999, $100,000-$149,999, $150,000+)
Party ID (Democrat, Republican, Independent, Something else)
Race/ethnicity (White/Other Non-Hispanic, Black Non-Hispanic, Hispanic) by Gender (Male, Female)
Race/ethnicity (White/Other Non-Hispanic, Black Non-Hispanic, Hispanic) by Age (18-44, 45+)
Race/ethnicity (White/Other Non-Hispanic, Black Non-Hispanic, Hispanic) by Education (Some College or less, Bachelor and beyond)
The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3.9 percentage points at the 95% confidence level, for results based on the entire sample of adults. The margin of sampling error takes into account the design effect, which was 1.17. The margin of sampling error is higher and varies for results based on other sub-samples. In our reporting of the findings, percentage points are rounded off to the nearest whole number. As a result, percentages in a given table column may total slightly higher or lower than 100%. In questions that permit multiple responses, columns may total substantially more than 100%, depending on the number of different responses offered by each respondent.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-08/topline-abc-ipsos-poll-aug30.pdf
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/abc-republican-national-convention-2020


"I've been getting some really good polls, some over 50%, except one"


...etc

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

[suchmoon]

I'm quite impressed that only 80% of Republicans approve of the RNC in the Ipsos poll. I wonder if the other 20% think it was too batshit or not batshit enough.

[squatz1]

I'm quite impressed that only 80% of Republicans approve of the RNC in the Ipsos poll. I wonder if the other 20% think it was too batshit or not batshit enough.

Going to assume that the 20% think it's too batshit given the fact that most of the speaking time was given to people with the Trump name. There are still many Republicans who back Trump reluctantly but still want to see some other prominent republicans speaking.

Could've put Ted Cruz, Lindsey Grahm, Marco Rubio, and so on to at least put some typical GOP names into the convention. The convention was WEIRD. Who the hell wants to listen to all of his children speak about him? They're not the best source of info, and I doubt they have much pull over votes in swing areas that are needed.

Little too batshit for me....

[suchmoon]

Going to assume that the 20% think it's too batshit given the fact that most of the speaking time was given to people with the Trump name. There are still many Republicans who back Trump reluctantly but still want to see some other prominent republicans speaking.

Could've put Ted Cruz, Lindsey Grahm, Marco Rubio, and so on to at least put some typical GOP names into the convention. The convention was WEIRD. Who the hell wants to listen to all of his children speak about him? They're not the best source of info, and I doubt they have much pull over votes in swing areas that are needed.

Little too batshit for me....

I think I may have lost all sense of scale of this craziness over the last 4 years. Nothing seems too batshit to me about Trump. If he had Stormy Daniels at the RNC praising his mushroom I'd have been only mildly surprised. As for Lil' Marco et al... I think that despite their best efforts to get on Trump's wagon he still holds a grudge against them for the 2016 primary.

[actmyname]

Partisan politick please. Make it easier for Southern Canada to prepare for annexation.

[squatz1]

Going to assume that the 20% think it's too batshit given the fact that most of the speaking time was given to people with the Trump name. There are still many Republicans who back Trump reluctantly but still want to see some other prominent republicans speaking.

Could've put Ted Cruz, Lindsey Grahm, Marco Rubio, and so on to at least put some typical GOP names into the convention. The convention was WEIRD. Who the hell wants to listen to all of his children speak about him? They're not the best source of info, and I doubt they have much pull over votes in swing areas that are needed.

Little too batshit for me....

I think I may have lost all sense of scale of this craziness over the last 4 years. Nothing seems too batshit to me about Trump. If he had Stormy Daniels at the RNC praising his mushroom I'd have been only mildly surprised. As for Lil' Marco et al... I think that despite their best efforts to get on Trump's wagon he still holds a grudge against them for the 2016 primary.

Oh he totally still holds a grudge against them for 2016, but I wouldn't understand why he can't remember that it was a very competitive time for everyone. Obviously everyone is going to be throwing jabs at one another over it, that's just how politics works. I think him and Ted Cruz, even if there was the most vicious of fighters, became friendly later on as they did share many similarities on policy.

But yes, I think the whole -- flood the news with craziness is a Trump strategy to keep our brains filled with so much stuff that we can't even pay attention to breaking news anymore.

Is any news breaking news if all news is breaking news? LOL.