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January 14, 2015, 02:35:59 PM
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Question for Guy:

With current btc price, does it affect your plan with the new gen ASIC development? Any change in the plan or pricing strategy? Whats about your market targets? (only wholesale or bulk order instead of retail?)



I second this question we are now at the price of 195 usd a coin.

 As a builder of asic's are you going to take a pause or push on with blind faith to build a .1 watt chip?

I really think if Guy handle this right, he will nail coffins to all the Chinese manufactures. They've been milking bitcoin eco long enough.


I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow. BitFury said they were getting their new 28nm samples towards the end of December too. With no recent info about Spondoolies new ASIC, it's best to assume they're going to be behind in reaching ~0.2J/Gh.

With BF and AM both providing cloud mining services, they'll be able to offer cheaper hashing power than what it would cost to buy a physical miner and they're likely to have cheaper electricity costs than most people too. If Spondoolies don't offer cloud mining with their new ASIC, I'll be very surprised.

Rather than there being a nail in the coffin of all the Chinese manufacturers, you're going to see AM come back to the forefront.  Smiley
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January 14, 2015, 03:03:31 PM
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Question for Guy:

With current btc price, does it affect your plan with the new gen ASIC development? Any change in the plan or pricing strategy? Whats about your market targets? (only wholesale or bulk order instead of retail?)



I second this question we are now at the price of 195 usd a coin.

 As a builder of asic's are you going to take a pause or push on with blind faith to build a .1 watt chip?

why not ? 

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January 14, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
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... With no recent info about Spondoolies new ASIC, it's best to assume they're going going be behind in reaching ~0.2J/Gh. ...
Much better at a considerable lower cost, thank you.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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January 14, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
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... With no recent info about Spondoolies new ASIC, it's best to assume they're going going to be behind in reaching ~0.2J/Gh. ...
Much better at a considerable lower cost, thank you.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Could you expand on that?
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January 14, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
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... With no recent info about Spondoolies new ASIC, it's best to assume they're going going to be behind in reaching ~0.2J/Gh. ...
Much better at a considerable lower cost, thank you.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Could you expand on that?
Much better than 0.2 J/GH, at a considerable lower $/GH/s compare to ... due to a much higher GH/s/mm^2 (silicon density).

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Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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January 14, 2015, 04:18:28 PM
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Are there any other applications for your hardware other than mining in the event that prices never recover?
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January 14, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
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Much better than 0.2 J/GH, at a considerable lower $/GH/s compare to ... due to a much higher GH/s/mm^2 (silicon density).

Are you shooting for Q1 release?
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January 14, 2015, 04:25:36 PM
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Are there any other applications for your hardware other than mining in the event that prices never recover?

I am using this application right now-heating my house, but it saves just 30% of my heating cost, still better than zero.
In addition, it is close to impossible for the btc price to stay at the same level as today-it would be either substantially higher or much lower.
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January 14, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
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Much better than 0.2 J/GH, at a considerable lower $/GH/s compare to ... due to a much higher GH/s/mm^2 (silicon density).

That sounds like you've abandoned the 28nm design and are focusing on the 16nm ones. Is that the case?
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January 14, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
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I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow.

While the samples performed better than expected I am still waiting to see the 24 chip board. Since friedcat hasn't shown it yet then I assume there are some problems with the design or he managed to burn all sample chips and that would mean that the production of the miners will not follow swiftly.

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January 14, 2015, 05:13:13 PM
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Much better than 0.2 J/GH, at a considerable lower $/GH/s compare to ... due to a much higher GH/s/mm^2 (silicon density).

That sounds like you've abandoned the 28nm design and are focusing on the 16nm ones. Is that the case?
No, it's 28nm design.

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Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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January 14, 2015, 06:52:02 PM
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62







you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.



They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.


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January 14, 2015, 07:28:14 PM
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62







you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.



They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.



Price I cant argue it hurts miners for sure.

On can't run them at home would disagree.  You just need to have room for them.  Most miners are not something you would want in your living room.  I highlly suggest setting up area for miners if you have the room.
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January 14, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
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I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow.

While the samples performed better than expected I am still waiting to see the 24 chip board. Since friedcat hasn't shown it yet then I assume there are some problems with the design or he managed to burn all sample chips and that would mean that the production of the miners will not follow swiftly.

this.

it's always the way with AM, friedcat is forced to early release statistical data from all parts of the company to eager morons who don't even think about the mining itself and are too concerned by the value of the company (or at best - the value of the next batch of chips (which in turn gets funded towards the next round of chips and the share sell-offs are left in the - quite literally- *dust*)).
bleh bleh bleh... remind me history disnae repeat itself?
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January 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62





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you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.

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They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.


i don't run my sp10's at home. they are not a home miner.
Sp20 is too loudy, you don't want miners at home, ok.
hope to see you back mining at a later date mate.

it'll be good to see big mining farms follow your lead.

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January 14, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?   



Curious to find out...


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January 14, 2015, 10:34:14 PM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?   



Curious to find out...


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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



Curious to find out...


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I turned  off all C1, S3 and Rented out 2x S4

Only working miners is underclocked  NEPTUNE-s, are quiet and provide hot in the house
underclocked SP20 give back the price of electricity , and provide hot . The same as the purchase BTC
Antminer S5 give  0.4 BTC month. The same as the underclocked SP20

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January 14, 2015, 10:55:26 PM
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Guy : pls share your plan with your inventory. Are they mining to fund your new ASIC?
At this price, i cant imaging you're selling any.
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January 14, 2015, 11:03:15 PM
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I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow.

While the samples performed better than expected I am still waiting to see the 24 chip board. Since friedcat hasn't shown it yet then I assume there are some problems with the design or he managed to burn all sample chips and that would mean that the production of the miners will not follow swiftly.

this.

it's always the way with AM, friedcat is forced to early release statistical data from all parts of the company to eager morons who don't even think about the mining itself and are too concerned by the value of the company (or at best - the value of the next batch of chips (which in turn gets funded towards the next round of chips and the share sell-offs are left in the - quite literally- *dust*)).
bleh bleh bleh... remind me history disnae repeat itself?
aye it will.

raskul be nice.

my problem with am gear is a lot more simple it runs too hot and can burn up far too easy.

and I do not over clock.


price is now at 179 usd on coinbase.  If it flattens out above 120 usd and does not go under that I am  able to mine.

I would also think a big dip in the diff would have to follow a drop to 120usd  then- plateau at that level.

I have now stopped buying into the drop.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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