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May 24, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
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I bit and ordered a unit last Monday just to see what all the hype was about, and so far I've had issue after issue. Unless BTC goes way up, I'm almost positive this is going to be a money loser. Super...

Normally I pay for miners using BTC, but this time I decided to pay using bank transfer because I was running low on BTC. The Monday payment didn't clear until Wednesday, so the unit didn't ship until Wednesday evening. I wasn't aware that bank transfers were so slow, but that's the last time I pay for a miner that ships "immediately" using bank transfer. Chalk one up to BTC, but it sucks to wait on a slow bank transfer to go through (minus two mining days).

Also, I paid $2900 for my unit, and the price dropped to $2795 plus shipping before my unit even shipped. Add $193 for shipping, and minus 10% using a coupon, and the price comes to $2700. That means I paid $200 more for a unit that didn't even ship until after the price drop.

Also, my unit was supposed to be delivered on Friday morning, but it either got delayed by customs or FedEx sucks, so it's sitting on a loading dock and won't move again until after Memorial Day on Tuesday. I called Fedex and they told me that there is no way I can even pick the unit up before Tuesday. It would have been delivered on Saturday, but Spondoolies didn't pay for Saturday delivery, so that's a loss of another 3-4 mining days.

The difficulty also just went up 18% because it looks like the market is being flooded with AsicMiner Gen3 chips.

This is really screwing up what is otherwise a great Memorial Day weekend.
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May 24, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
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Having problems with shipping is nothing spondoolies can change, you would have to take that up with the shipping company.

As far as i know they chose the freight company in the best interest of the customer.
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May 24, 2014, 05:35:20 PM
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Having problems with shipping is nothing spondoolies can change, you would have to take that up with the shipping company.

As far as i know they chose the freight company in the best interest of the customer.

They can offer the customer the choice of paying extra for Saturday delivery. I would gladly pay extra for Saturday delivery to avoid losing 3 mining days over a holiday weekend.
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May 24, 2014, 05:36:38 PM
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Having problems with shipping is nothing spondoolies can change, you would have to take that up with the shipping company.

As far as i know they chose the freight company in the best interest of the customer.

They can offer the customer the choice of paying extra for Saturday delivery. I would gladly pay extra for Saturday delivery to avoid losing 3 mining days over a holiday weekend.

can't you just pick it up from the courier depot? I did this last bank holiday (on the saturday) when I knew it wasn't going to get delivered until tuesday.

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May 24, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
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Also, I paid $2900 for my unit, and the price dropped to $2795 plus shipping before my unit even shipped. Add $193 for shipping, and minus 10% using a coupon, and the price comes to $2700. That means I paid $200 more for a unit that didn't even ship until after the price drop.


No more 10% coupon You got it $100 cheaper.

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Having problems with shipping is nothing spondoolies can change, you would have to take that up with the shipping company.

As far as i know they chose the freight company in the best interest of the customer.

They can offer the customer the choice of paying extra for Saturday delivery. I would gladly pay extra for Saturday delivery to avoid losing 3 mining days over a holiday weekend.

can't you just pick it up from the courier depot? I did this last bank holiday (on the saturday) when I knew it wasn't going to get delivered until tuesday.

I called FedEx, and they said the package was sitting on an airport loading dock 30 minutes from my house and would not move again until Tuesday morning. FedEx said there is no way I can pick it up from that location. I think this is just very unfortunate timing.

Oh well, shit happens. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the S2s I have coming next week. They should ship tomorrow, and I've had great luck with UPS shipments from Bitmain in the past.

This is the first time I've received an international shipment from FedEx, and was surprised by the paperwork they require.

Lessons learned:
1.) Bank transfers are slow. Paying with BTC is much faster and can speed up shipment by 2-3 days.
2.) It's critical to take weekends and holidays into account when timing purchases. Otherwise, you could end up losing 2-3 days waiting for delivery.
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May 24, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
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Having problems with shipping is nothing spondoolies can change, you would have to take that up with the shipping company.

As far as i know they chose the freight company in the best interest of the customer.

They can offer the customer the choice of paying extra for Saturday delivery. I would gladly pay extra for Saturday delivery to avoid losing 3 mining days over a holiday weekend.

can't you just pick it up from the courier depot? I did this last bank holiday (on the saturday) when I knew it wasn't going to get delivered until tuesday.

I called FedEx, and they said the package was sitting on an airport loading dock 30 minutes from my house and would not move again until Tuesday morning. FedEx said there is no way I can pick it up until Tuesday. I think this is just very unfortunate timing.

crazy, I had a very similar experience with DHL this morning.. although their customer service put me right through, direct to the airport depot, where I guided the representative through, finding the package value on the waybill (they had held it because they couldn't find the value amount) unfortunately, my own rig won't be here til tuesday, same.

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May 24, 2014, 05:49:32 PM
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Yes, that is the quote i got just this morning. However, i told them i would deploy multiple kW, i don´t know how many ants you have with them.

The way you are describing it is, they need you to pay VAT but you will get reimbursed after 2 months?
So basically you don´t pay VAT? Just give a two-month interest-free loan?

Just fyi Bitmine != Bitmain Smiley

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May 24, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
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So I decided to join the fray and worry about cooling later. Just concluded some testing:

2 machines @ 24h net: 0.14743461 (before the increase) default single pool
2 machines @ 24h net: 0.12959452 (before/after increase) multi-pool

All calculators were spot on in their calculations. Ton of junk in the multi-pool amounting to not that much and spotty server issues.


So what pool(s) are recommended for these things?
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May 24, 2014, 06:43:15 PM
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I bit and ordered a unit last Monday just to see what all the hype was about, and so far I've had issue after issue. Unless BTC goes way up, I'm almost positive this is going to be a money loser. Super...

Normally I pay for miners using BTC, but this time I decided to pay using bank transfer because I was running low on BTC. The Monday payment didn't clear until Wednesday, so the unit didn't ship until Wednesday evening. I wasn't aware that bank transfers were so slow, but that's the last time I pay for a miner that ships "immediately" using bank transfer. Chalk one up to BTC, but it sucks to wait on a slow bank transfer to go through (minus two mining days).

Also, I paid $2900 for my unit, and the price dropped to $2795 plus shipping before my unit even shipped. Add $193 for shipping, and minus 10% using a coupon, and the price comes to $2700. That means I paid $200 more for a unit that didn't even ship until after the price drop.

Also, my unit was supposed to be delivered on Friday morning, but it either got delayed by customs or FedEx sucks, so it's sitting on a loading dock and won't move again until after Memorial Day on Tuesday. I called Fedex and they told me that there is no way I can even pick the unit up before Tuesday. It would have been delivered on Saturday, but Spondoolies didn't pay for Saturday delivery, so that's a loss of another 3-4 mining days.

The difficulty also just went up 18% because it looks like the market is being flooded with AsicMiner Gen3 chips.

This is really screwing up what is otherwise a great Memorial Day weekend.

1) They didn't ship until you paid, that's not their fault.
2) They lowered the price before shipping, tell them and they'll refund it, they're nice people.
3) That's Fedex's fault. You can call them and pay to upgrade to Saturday delivery, it'll cost less than 3 mining days.

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May 24, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
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I bit and ordered a unit last Monday just to see what all the hype was about, and so far I've had issue after issue. Unless BTC goes way up, I'm almost positive this is going to be a money loser. Super...

Normally I pay for miners using BTC, but this time I decided to pay using bank transfer because I was running low on BTC. The Monday payment didn't clear until Wednesday, so the unit didn't ship until Wednesday evening. I wasn't aware that bank transfers were so slow, but that's the last time I pay for a miner that ships "immediately" using bank transfer. Chalk one up to BTC, but it sucks to wait on a slow bank transfer to go through (minus two mining days).

Also, I paid $2900 for my unit, and the price dropped to $2795 plus shipping before my unit even shipped. Add $193 for shipping, and minus 10% using a coupon, and the price comes to $2700. That means I paid $200 more for a unit that didn't even ship until after the price drop.

Also, my unit was supposed to be delivered on Friday morning, but it either got delayed by customs or FedEx sucks, so it's sitting on a loading dock and won't move again until after Memorial Day on Tuesday. I called Fedex and they told me that there is no way I can even pick the unit up before Tuesday. It would have been delivered on Saturday, but Spondoolies didn't pay for Saturday delivery, so that's a loss of another 3-4 mining days.

The difficulty also just went up 18% because it looks like the market is being flooded with AsicMiner Gen3 chips.

This is really screwing up what is otherwise a great Memorial Day weekend.

3) That's Fedex's fault. You can call them and pay to upgrade to Saturday delivery, it'll cost less than 3 mining days.

Or you could choose free 1 month hosting and have it shipped on a Monday/Tuesday Smiley PM me your address and I will donate you your 3 mining days.

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May 24, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
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As you design more efficent chips for devices like SP30, will you continue to make a < 1200W version for those who don't have the ability to plug in 2 different circuits (single 1 kW PSU)?

We don't have the bandwidth to do it. We're looking for partners for other form factors.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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May 24, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
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I bit and ordered a unit last Monday just to see what all the hype was about, and so far I've had issue after issue. Unless BTC goes way up, I'm almost positive this is going to be a money loser. Super...

Normally I pay for miners using BTC, but this time I decided to pay using bank transfer because I was running low on BTC. The Monday payment didn't clear until Wednesday, so the unit didn't ship until Wednesday evening. I wasn't aware that bank transfers were so slow, but that's the last time I pay for a miner that ships "immediately" using bank transfer. Chalk one up to BTC, but it sucks to wait on a slow bank transfer to go through (minus two mining days).

Also, I paid $2900 for my unit, and the price dropped to $2795 plus shipping before my unit even shipped. Add $193 for shipping, and minus 10% using a coupon, and the price comes to $2700. That means I paid $200 more for a unit that didn't even ship until after the price drop.

Also, my unit was supposed to be delivered on Friday morning, but it either got delayed by customs or FedEx sucks, so it's sitting on a loading dock and won't move again until after Memorial Day on Tuesday. I called Fedex and they told me that there is no way I can even pick the unit up before Tuesday. It would have been delivered on Saturday, but Spondoolies didn't pay for Saturday delivery, so that's a loss of another 3-4 mining days.

The difficulty also just went up 18% because it looks like the market is being flooded with AsicMiner Gen3 chips.

This is really screwing up what is otherwise a great Memorial Day weekend.

Please contact sales@ and we'll work something out

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May 24, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
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What is the exact VA of the SP10 in terms of North American data center hosting?
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May 25, 2014, 12:44:01 AM
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Please contact sales@ and we'll work something out

Thanks, but I'm not looking for a handout. Based on everything I've seen so far, you are one of the few honest hardware manufacturers left and do treat customers fairly. The package was shipped promptly after payment cleared.

In retrospect, I'm just ranting because bank transfers are slow (this is one of the reasons why I think BTC will succeed) and my package is sitting in a FedEx facility 15 miles from my house but they won't let me pick it up until Tuesday (that's FedEx and bad luck on my part with the timing and the holiday weekend).

Oh well, it is what it is...  Smiley
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May 25, 2014, 01:00:34 AM
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As you design more efficent chips for devices like SP30, will you continue to make a < 1200W version for those who don't have the ability to plug in 2 different circuits (single 1 kW PSU)?

We don't have the bandwidth to do it. We're looking for partners for other form factors.
Nice to hear you are keeping your razor-sharp focus.

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May 25, 2014, 05:19:07 AM
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What is the exact VA of the SP10 in terms of North American data center hosting?
That depends on which setting you will use, but it shoudln´t be above 1350W.
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May 25, 2014, 05:28:21 AM
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Please contact sales@ and we'll work something out

Thanks, but I'm not looking for a handout. Based on everything I've seen so far, you are one of the few honest hardware manufacturers left and do treat customers fairly. The package was shipped promptly after payment cleared.

In retrospect, I'm just ranting because bank transfers are slow (this is one of the reasons why I think BTC will succeed) and my package is sitting in a FedEx facility 15 miles from my house but they won't let me pick it up until Tuesday (that's FedEx and bad luck on my part with the timing and the holiday weekend).

Oh well, it is what it is...  Smiley

Psst take the handout.

lol Wink Them is good people to help you out even if they are not the root cause they respect the customer / seller relationship. Our WPC has been on the receiving end of some nice support and concessions and they are always offered up in good faith. You are so right about these guys they are honest and treat us pretty well. If we keep buying from them I suspect that this will continue.

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May 25, 2014, 05:37:32 AM
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They are definately more reliable than any US-based Bitcoin mining manufacturer.

The hardware provided is delivered on-time and spec.
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May 25, 2014, 06:26:26 AM
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Please contact sales@ and we'll work something out

Thanks, but I'm not looking for a handout. Based on everything I've seen so far, you are one of the few honest hardware manufacturers left and do treat customers fairly. The package was shipped promptly after payment cleared.

In retrospect, I'm just ranting because bank transfers are slow (this is one of the reasons why I think BTC will succeed) and my package is sitting in a FedEx facility 15 miles from my house but they won't let me pick it up until Tuesday (that's FedEx and bad luck on my part with the timing and the holiday weekend).

Oh well, it is what it is...  Smiley

most of us know how you feel mate.

I believe roadstress had offered to help out too, and i'm willing to chip in, I'd share your lost days with roadstress and give you some hashing on my rig, just PM me and copy roadstress in the PM if you want us to sort this out for you.

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