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What is or was the Price of the SP31? I have been going back and forth with SP-Tech Sales, however I cannot seem to get the answer to the only question I care about. So frustrating  I realize there is a huge time gap so I have tried to be patient however its been over a week and all I need to know to decide is what the price of the unit is. I should add I want to know the price to see if I want to use a coupon or a refund. There are no Sp-31 on sale anyway, so why this matters. Choosing coupon vs refund time has passed as well AFAIK. |
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While I wait for tech support to get back online, has anyone had a SP10 just not want to start up?
The symptoms are that it will not stay powered on. It will not even get to the point where is pulls a DHCP address so that we can access it. It will initially power up but then it will turn itself back off. I have no ethernet or fans. We tried different power cables and power ports on the pdu.
Does it sound like a bad PSU or a MMC corruption?
So just in case anyone else has a similar problem in the future, or if anyone has had it in the past, I'll update. To summarise, SP10 that had been hashing at SP-Tech for a few months arrived at my colo, with the above symptoms. Things that have been suggested to try are swapping the PSU with a working one (luckily I have a SP10 I can swap with), and doing the SD-recover following the instructions from here: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/13098521-sp10-sp30-recovery-sd-card-boot-sd-card-creation-instructionsWill update more as I get more down the remote troubleshooting on Monday, in the meantime if anyone has had a similar symptoms and has a quick fix suggestion I'm all eyes  Cheers |
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Doff
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September 14, 2014, 03:42:28 PM |
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What is or was the Price of the SP31? I have been going back and forth with SP-Tech Sales, however I cannot seem to get the answer to the only question I care about. So frustrating I realize there is a huge time gap so I have tried to be patient however its been over a week and all I need to know to decide is what the price of the unit is. I should add I want to know the price to see if I want to use a coupon or a refund. There are no Sp-31 on sale anyway, so why this matters. Choosing coupon vs refund time has passed as well AFAIK. Incorrect, they are telling me I have the choice to use a coupon on an SP-31 and that they are held for refund customers, however I have now asked 5 times what the price is and cannot get an answer. The price matters because I need to see how much I want to spend and if the maybe the cash refund is more useful to me at this point. |
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September 14, 2014, 03:43:01 PM |
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September 14, 2014, 04:07:34 PM |
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While I wait for tech support to get back online, has anyone had a SP10 just not want to start up?
The symptoms are that it will not stay powered on. It will not even get to the point where is pulls a DHCP address so that we can access it. It will initially power up but then it will turn itself back off. I have no ethernet or fans. We tried different power cables and power ports on the pdu.
Does it sound like a bad PSU or a MMC corruption?
So just in case anyone else has a similar problem in the future, or if anyone has had it in the past, I'll update. To summarise, SP10 that had been hashing at SP-Tech for a few months arrived at my colo, with the above symptoms. Things that have been suggested to try are swapping the PSU with a working one (luckily I have a SP10 I can swap with), and doing the SD-recover following the instructions from here: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/13098521-sp10-sp30-recovery-sd-card-boot-sd-card-creation-instructionsWill update more as I get more down the remote troubleshooting on Monday, in the meantime if anyone has had a similar symptoms and has a quick fix suggestion I'm all eyes Cheers First see if the led on PSU is green after restart. If not it is a PSU issue and it should be replaced. Otherwise please follow the procedures for SD recovery (mmc corruption). If recovery fails (mmc problem), create boot SD and try to boot from it. If it fails, contact us regarding fixing the unit. |
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Biffa
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September 14, 2014, 04:56:24 PM |
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While I wait for tech support to get back online, has anyone had a SP10 just not want to start up?
The symptoms are that it will not stay powered on. It will not even get to the point where is pulls a DHCP address so that we can access it. It will initially power up but then it will turn itself back off. I have no ethernet or fans. We tried different power cables and power ports on the pdu.
Does it sound like a bad PSU or a MMC corruption?
So just in case anyone else has a similar problem in the future, or if anyone has had it in the past, I'll update. To summarise, SP10 that had been hashing at SP-Tech for a few months arrived at my colo, with the above symptoms. Things that have been suggested to try are swapping the PSU with a working one (luckily I have a SP10 I can swap with), and doing the SD-recover following the instructions from here: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/13098521-sp10-sp30-recovery-sd-card-boot-sd-card-creation-instructionsWill update more as I get more down the remote troubleshooting on Monday, in the meantime if anyone has had a similar symptoms and has a quick fix suggestion I'm all eyes Cheers First see if the led on PSU is green after restart. If not it is a PSU issue and it should be replaced. Otherwise please follow the procedures for SD recovery (mmc corruption). If recovery fails (mmc problem), create boot SD and try to boot from it. If it fails, contact us regarding fixing the unit. Thanks zvisha, will try the psu first. |
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September 14, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
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Biodom: I saw you deleted your post. As always there are "pain in the -beep-" customers and customers you like to work with. The good customer understands what he's buying, and he tries to help in the process. They get their issues solved quick (if any) because the personnel likes to work with them and they point exactly to the problem they have.
The other category keeps the vendor busy with questions, changes, options, more changes, does not regard deadlines, timelines, weekends .. they're the "customer" so if you want their business they will push you over the normal limits. As a manufacturer, you either "educate" and cater for your poor performing clients if you still want their business, or you drop them. The 80/20 rule applies (as in you spend 80% of your time to deal with 20% of your clients).
As a business, you get reviews from all over, and you struggle to keep up with demands OR you run your business decently, with strict rules for everyone. Stricter rules might seem a "bad business practice" in the beginning, but in the long run you end up having a happy life.
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September 14, 2014, 05:56:07 PM
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Biodom: I saw you deleted your post. As always there are "pain in the -beep-" customers and customers you like to work with. The good customer understands what he's buying, and he tries to help in the process. They get their issues solved quick (if any) because the personnel likes to work with them and they point exactly to the problem they have.
The other category keeps the vendor busy with questions, changes, options, more changes, does not regard deadlines, timelines, weekends .. they're the "customer" so if you want their business they will push you over the normal limits. As a manufacturer, you either "educate" your poor performing clients, or you drop them.
As a business, you get reviews from all over, and you struggle to keep up with demands OR you run your business decently, with strict rules for everyone. Stricter rules might seem a "bad business practice" in the beginning, but in the long run you end up having a happy life.
not sure what you referred to. I deleted a post about price because somebody already answered and this guy was satisfied, so why clutter. I am also not sure about strict rules as far as what this referrs to, but i believe in sponds integrity, however communication about shipment queue could be better. regarding weekend-it is currently NOT a weekend in Israel. Sunday is a working day, Fri and saturday are the weekend AFAIK. Regarding pain-in-the butt customers-sometimes they are complaining, but buying-just look at one OP (hint-hint). He is buying from everybody: Spond, KnC, Bitmain, etc. etc and he complains about every one of them, but keeps coming back. it's much better than to have a customer who gets so offended, that they NEVER come back-just look at BFL or KnC message boards-it is epic. |
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September 14, 2014, 06:13:14 PM |
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Yes PSU's are internal. They just replaced the ones that were in the SP30/31 with more powerful ones, but in the same place they were before. |
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September 14, 2014, 07:22:37 PM |
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WELCOME TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF ASICS! :-) "Germanene's electronic and optical properties have been determined from ab initio calculations, and structural and electronic properties from first principles. These properties make the material suitable for use in the channel of a high-performance field effect transistor[16] and have generated discussion regarding the use of elemental monolayers into other electronic devices.The electronic properties of germanene are unusual, and provide a rare opportunity to test the properties of Dirac fermions. These unusual properties are generally shared by graphene, silicene, germanene, and stanene." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanene |
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September 14, 2014, 09:25:10 PM |
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No love for the little guy anymore?
Always. It depends on our relative advantage. In 2015, it might be in a form of a mining facility "bond". Payable in BTC? Not clear how this could be even possible since mining facility most value is in miners, not the walls (which could be quite cheap) or ventilation (no A/C needed in many places). Because miners value would be decreasing steadily, how would you assure bondholders that if mining facility goes bankrupt they will have something to recover their principal? |
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September 14, 2014, 11:37:15 PM |
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What is blinking yellow, the PSU?
Have you tried the almighty restart yet?
You do know that you could be pulling more than 13A on the lead when running it at 120V?
the yellow led above the green one... i have not, as i am more interested in understanding the meaning of the led sequence than anything else...at the moment. as i stated a few hours ago, i reset the max watts so it could 'relearn' its limit/s. i do, however im not - 220-230V here. any idea wrt the yellow led... the one thats flashing on the front of the rig? 9 times...? thx. Edgar, young fella, you should know that there is a certain tradition amongst old *nix wizard types. It is drilled into every devop, sysadm and device driver writer early in their professional career. It is called 'RTFM' where the manual is the source code. If you can't do this, you are SOL. Variations on this unix crypto-culture are a) if you want something done, code it and submit a pull request b) how many github projects do you contribute to ? c) marketDetailAgent send ( _.filterNot(mi => Exchange.canonicalize(mi.market) == market) :+ info ) Otherwise, the responses you get are going to be 'power cycle it and let me know if it works' Thats just the way it is. It is a system designed to protect the innocent. Believe it or not. Take my word for it, you do not want to know what all those flashing lights mean. You just want your system to ROI. Good luck with that. |
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September 15, 2014, 08:33:05 AM
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What is blinking yellow, the PSU?
Have you tried the almighty restart yet?
You do know that you could be pulling more than 13A on the lead when running it at 120V?
the yellow led above the green one... i have not, as i am more interested in understanding the meaning of the led sequence than anything else...at the moment. as i stated a few hours ago, i reset the max watts so it could 'relearn' its limit/s. i do, however im not - 220-230V here. any idea wrt the yellow led... the one thats flashing on the front of the rig? 9 times...? thx. Edgar, young fella, you should know that there is a certain tradition amongst old *nix wizard types. It is drilled into every devop, sysadm and device driver writer early in their professional career. It is called 'RTFM' where the manual is the source code. If you can't do this, you are SOL. Variations on this unix crypto-culture are a) if you want something done, code it and submit a pull request b) how many github projects do you contribute to ? c) marketDetailAgent send ( _.filterNot(mi => Exchange.canonicalize(mi.market) == market) :+ info ) Otherwise, the responses you get are going to be 'power cycle it and let me know if it works' Thats just the way it is. It is a system designed to protect the innocent. Believe it or not. Take my word for it, you do not want to know what all those flashing lights mean. You just want your system to ROI. Good luck with that. indeed, again it saddens me that you are so right! why the fudge they cant manage to just say what needs to be said instead of acting like cunts is beyond me. but then im not the one raking in millions (and still have to sell pre-orders) so wtf do i know. fuck the leds, and fuck the 'so smart they cant be bothered' haters... it seems that even squeaky wheels are starting to get ignored, bodes well for the future does it not... so as 'the time for refunds/coupons has passed' where does that leave those among us, (presumably just myself) that chose neither as they had other issues going on? either? neither? possible to use for/against something that will be delivered within the next 30 days?? its like getting blood from a stone (or trying to break even) here |
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September 15, 2014, 09:10:53 AM |
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What is blinking yellow, the PSU?
Have you tried the almighty restart yet?
You do know that you could be pulling more than 13A on the lead when running it at 120V?
the yellow led above the green one... i have not, as i am more interested in understanding the meaning of the led sequence than anything else...at the moment. as i stated a few hours ago, i reset the max watts so it could 'relearn' its limit/s. i do, however im not - 220-230V here. any idea wrt the yellow led... the one thats flashing on the front of the rig? 9 times...? thx. Edgar, young fella, you should know that there is a certain tradition amongst old *nix wizard types. It is drilled into every devop, sysadm and device driver writer early in their professional career. It is called 'RTFM' where the manual is the source code. If you can't do this, you are SOL. Variations on this unix crypto-culture are a) if you want something done, code it and submit a pull request b) how many github projects do you contribute to ? c) marketDetailAgent send ( _.filterNot(mi => Exchange.canonicalize(mi.market) == market) :+ info ) Otherwise, the responses you get are going to be 'power cycle it and let me know if it works' Thats just the way it is. It is a system designed to protect the innocent. Believe it or not. Take my word for it, you do not want to know what all those flashing lights mean. You just want your system to ROI. Good luck with that. indeed, again it saddens me that you are so right! why the fudge they cant manage to just say what needs to be said instead of acting like cunts is beyond me. but then im not the one raking in millions (and still have to sell pre-orders) so wtf do i know. fuck the leds, and fuck the 'so smart they cant be bothered' haters... it seems that even squeaky wheels are starting to get ignored, bodes well for the future does it not... so as 'the time for refunds/coupons has passed' where does that leave those among us, (presumably just myself) that chose neither as they had other issues going on? either? neither? possible to use for/against something that will be delivered within the next 30 days? its like getting blood from a stone (or trying to break even) here Try calling me a cunt few more times and then ask me what /etc/init.d is. Update me how that works out. |
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September 15, 2014, 09:24:20 AM
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What is blinking yellow, the PSU?
Have you tried the almighty restart yet?
You do know that you could be pulling more than 13A on the lead when running it at 120V?
the yellow led above the green one... i have not, as i am more interested in understanding the meaning of the led sequence than anything else...at the moment. as i stated a few hours ago, i reset the max watts so it could 'relearn' its limit/s. i do, however im not - 220-230V here. any idea wrt the yellow led... the one thats flashing on the front of the rig? 9 times...? thx. Edgar, young fella, you should know that there is a certain tradition amongst old *nix wizard types. It is drilled into every devop, sysadm and device driver writer early in their professional career. It is called 'RTFM' where the manual is the source code. If you can't do this, you are SOL. Variations on this unix crypto-culture are a) if you want something done, code it and submit a pull request b) how many github projects do you contribute to ? c) marketDetailAgent send ( _.filterNot(mi => Exchange.canonicalize(mi.market) == market) :+ info ) Otherwise, the responses you get are going to be 'power cycle it and let me know if it works' Thats just the way it is. It is a system designed to protect the innocent. Believe it or not. Take my word for it, you do not want to know what all those flashing lights mean. You just want your system to ROI. Good luck with that. indeed, again it saddens me that you are so right! why the fudge they cant manage to just say what needs to be said instead of acting like cunts is beyond me. but then im not the one raking in millions (and still have to sell pre-orders) so wtf do i know. fuck the leds, and fuck the 'so smart they cant be bothered' haters... it seems that even squeaky wheels are starting to get ignored, bodes well for the future does it not... so as 'the time for refunds/coupons has passed' where does that leave those among us, (presumably just myself) that chose neither as they had other issues going on? either? neither? possible to use for/against something that will be delivered within the next 30 days? its like getting blood from a stone (or trying to break even) here Try calling me a cunt few more times and then ask me what /etc/init.d is. Update me how that works out. i see what you did there, again... why bother even replying if its not to address the issue at hand?? repeatedly 'confusing' facts with misunderstandings/miscomprehension is all the rage in here eh..!! <snippe> why are you intentionally ignoring my questions & focusing on pointless 'issues' ? |
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On a side note spondoolies you are all nice to us now..but just promise us you WON'T turn into KNC or BFL will ya this post says it all (off topic feel free to skip it) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg8826686#msg8826686anyway still want to get an sp20 ...still see no way to pull it off at hosting rates nor my 15c/kwh rates others any advice....am I missing something (and yeah i know am using the correct figures for power 1100 watts duh ....) anyway still have hopes up something down the line will work from spondoolies in the future (noise/watts/roi wise for home mining at my 15c/wkh rate) trying to be positive here....anyway I'm sure it is the best price and watts spondoolies can do at this time ...more power to those who are buying again so it goes |
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September 15, 2014, 09:27:37 AM |
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indeed, again it saddens me that you are so right!
why the fudge they cant manage to just say what needs to be said instead of acting like cunts is beyond me.
but then im not the one raking in millions (and still have to sell pre-orders) so wtf do i know.
fuck the leds, and fuck the 'so smart they cant be bothered' haters...
it seems that even squeaky wheels are starting to get ignored, bodes well for the future does it not...
so as 'the time for refunds/coupons has passed' where does that leave those among us, (presumably just myself) that chose neither as they had other issues going on?
either?
neither?
possible to use for/against something that will be delivered within the next 30 days??
its like getting blood from a stone (or trying to break even) here
All I am seeing here is karma that is coming back to you, who can't understand that the damn 3, 9, 13 blinks aren't relevant to the rest of the miner. It's like the HDD light is blinking on my computer while it boots up. My Windows can work ok or not, but the damn lights blink the same all the time. It's not that hard to understand this from the above posts. |
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September 15, 2014, 09:45:56 AM |
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indeed, again it saddens me that you are so right!
why the fudge they cant manage to just say what needs to be said instead of acting like cunts is beyond me.
but then im not the one raking in millions (and still have to sell pre-orders) so wtf do i know.
fuck the leds, and fuck the 'so smart they cant be bothered' haters...
it seems that even squeaky wheels are starting to get ignored, bodes well for the future does it not...
so as 'the time for refunds/coupons has passed' where does that leave those among us, (presumably just myself) that chose neither as they had other issues going on?
either?
neither?
possible to use for/against something that will be delivered within the next 30 days??
its like getting blood from a stone (or trying to break even) here
All I am seeing here is karma that is coming back to you, who can't understand that the damn 3, 9, 13 blinks aren't relevant to the rest of the miner. It's like the HDD light is blinking on my computer while it boots up. My Windows can work ok or not, but the damn lights blink the same all the time. It's not that hard to understand this from the above posts. you may be right. if karma is an ill-reading, victim-playing, sarcastic genius however wouldnt it have been 'better' for all concerned if it was explained clearly the first time instead of 'forcing' the inquisitive to KEEP ASKING..?? at the same time as expending the nergy to write a paragraph of pointless shit?? no? really dont know? i see... 2, 9, 13 |
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