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You are completley idiot. I am scammed too, few days trying to recover my funds from my account but it is not able. This seems so scam and I am so worried about my funds. I send emails, livechat on the website write here on bitcoin manager. And do you know what? NOTHING received. even email. They dont want to speak with me anymore and take my all my money, and also deposits like another members. Do you think they can steal your deposts? I don't know why you think I'm an idiot, but it seems to be a favorite word that is used in almost every complaint that appears here. Coincidence? Unfortunately, I cannot comment on your case because I do not know the details. I don't know why you don't get the answer and I also won't give it to you. You don't have to reply to my posts, you can just continue spamming the thread if that helps you somehow. Idiot, you can see that no one help me for my case? You are the only one who spamming here as I can see from the past posts, and nothing helpping here to people who have stolen funds by 1xbit. I am one of them, and asking for help here, and you are just pumping this topic how someone cheating. Who cheating? Where is the proof that cheating? I was betting regular on my bets and any moment logged out. was suppried that i cannot login anymore. Then they writing to me stop collaboration without any explanation. Nothing explaned whats wrong. I am only new member on the website and deposit money, i dont know what is here violated. And you here just spamming some off topic and I not see any manager or support of 1xbit to support here cases , only you and 2-3 another paid idiots who defend this everyday.... sadly. you must be fat and just eating home from the money they give to you, and you cannot work another job and just posting everyday on the forum. Hope I will back this money and hope you will be not paid for the supporting this website 1xbit because you not deserve that. You only spamming. Nothing see from the support of 1xbit. I have no contact with the support team, so I will not help you, and even if I did, I would not help you because you insult me for no reason. If you followed the discussion you would see evidence that this thread is being spammed by users who cheat 1xbit. Take a look at these posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58702736#msg58702736https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58479071#msg58479071https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58595572#msg58595572Of course, the situation is complicated, but this should initially show you what the discussion is about. I haven't included you in it so far, so I don't understand why you insult me. And what is the point you want to told me with that posts? I have frozen account with money in yo account, and they blocked my account. YOur posts nothing helping me, you are just spamming here and post nothing to help me to recover my funds from my account. Support is not helping, they not replaying anymore, and I see in past 3 months they nothing helping here or help to another members to recover the funds locked. They just blocking accunts and steal everythins. You are not asshamed about that or what> I dont know the reason why you defend them so much, and they have not post any comment here in past 3 monts, only you and 2-3 more persons with signature spamming here so much and not helping nothing with that posts. You are idiot you know that Man, you replied to my post and started insulting me! I don't know what for?! I don't know your case and I don't know how to help you, and now I don't even want to. I just explained to you what the discussion is about. Go in your way!
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There is a lot of activity in this thread again, it seems to go through spikes where there are some quiet moments and then there is a surge of posts. New victims (or alleged victims) are posting and the same band of sock-puppet accounts continue to defend the 1xbit scammers. This forum deserved better than to have scammers such as 1xbit using it to promote their scam....
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Support is not helping, they not replaying anymore, and I see in past 3 months they nothing helping here or help to another members to recover the funds locked. the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
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December 18, 2021, 09:44:47 PM |
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What is your point?
You can't offer a bad line and then help yourself to the entire balance of any player that accepts your offer. It's stealing if you do. And that's what 1xbit is doing. That's my point. Ok, so it's about not returning deposit - I've written about it before and again below. Do you think that someone who bets on a result that he know, because he is using advantage of the delay in updating the result is entitled to get a win?
I've already explained this multiple times. The bet should be void, which means any winnings from the bet are returned to the Casino, and the player keeps their initial wager. Taking anything more than the winnings from the voided bet is theft. And I agree with you. After all, that's what 1xbit does. I understand that you disagree with the fact that the deposit is sometimes not returned. I wrote what I think about it a bit earlier: As for taking deposits, I am able to believe 1xbit that people who have been caught on cheating, withdraw the equivalent of the deposit earlier or from another account.
In these cases, the deposit is not returned. Who you believe depends on you. The integrity of your answers will always be tainted as long as you get paid by them. You are aware of that right? I never go to casinos that I represent and talk about how awesome they are and how everyone else is wrong, well the ones I carry the signature do not have this many problems and complaints neither so it's never a problem. As long as you have their signature, whenever you try to defend them, it will never be honest or at least it will never be seen as an honest thing. It will always be seen as you are simply getting paid to defend them, we are not even entirely sure if you believe in what you say or not, maybe it is all for money and you also agree that they are scammers but don't say that because they are paying you. Plus, many people do believe that they are scammers, so with the money they scammed from others, they are paying you, which makes it even harder to care for what you respond with. This is why everyone will ignore you as long as you get paid by them. If you want to be taken seriously, carry someone else's signature and still come in here and defend them. That would be more believable.
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the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
To be honest, it doesn't matter to me anymore whether these complaints are legitimate or not. What matters to me, and what everyone can see here, is their attitude toward the players. They have given themselves the right to treat any customer as a shit, to deny their winnings, and to seize user's funds whenever they want, without providing any explanations or proof. This is in essence a dictatorship. Fortunately, there are plenty of alternatives we can choose from.
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the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
To be honest, it doesn't matter to me anymore whether these complaints are legitimate or not. What matters to me, and what everyone can see here, is their attitude toward the players. They have given themselves the right to treat any customer as a shit, to deny their winnings, and to seize user's funds whenever they want, without providing any explanations or proof. This is in essence a dictatorship. Fortunately, there are plenty of alternatives we can choose from. After all, there were always alternatives for everyone. When it comes to not responding to spam complaints, I think I understand support. When they started responding to complaints, responses were simply ignored and the spam continued. If they will start responding only to complaints that did not come from cheaters, they would give further arguments to continue hate. They made the decision not to respond here at all. On the other hand, it is not the official way for users to communicate with support. This is just my theory, but I'm sure you have yours, better ones
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December 19, 2021, 01:49:33 AM |
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the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
To be honest, it doesn't matter to me anymore whether these complaints are legitimate or not. What matters to me, and what everyone can see here, is their attitude toward the players. They have given themselves the right to treat any customer as a shit, to deny their winnings, and to seize user's funds whenever they want, without providing any explanations or proof. This is in essence a dictatorship. Fortunately, there are plenty of alternatives we can choose from. After all, there were always alternatives for everyone. When it comes to not responding to spam complaints, I think I understand support. When they started responding to complaints, responses were simply ignored and the spam continued. If they will start responding only to complaints that did not come from cheaters, they would give further arguments to continue hate. They made the decision not to respond here at all. On the other hand, it is not the official way for users to communicate with support. This is just my theory, but I'm sure you have yours, better ones They offered bad lines. Players bet on them. Instead of just voiding the bet (or just paying it out because it was their mistake) like any honest casino would, they voided the bet and took additional money that didn't belong to them. Now they're ignoring players complaints, and you're defending their actions because the players are being annoying spamming. Quit defending them. It's pathetic.
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December 19, 2021, 02:26:08 AM |
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the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
To be honest, it doesn't matter to me anymore whether these complaints are legitimate or not. What matters to me, and what everyone can see here, is their attitude toward the players. They have given themselves the right to treat any customer as a shit, to deny their winnings, and to seize user's funds whenever they want, without providing any explanations or proof. This is in essence a dictatorship. Fortunately, there are plenty of alternatives we can choose from. After all, there were always alternatives for everyone. When it comes to not responding to spam complaints, I think I understand support. When they started responding to complaints, responses were simply ignored and the spam continued. If they will start responding only to complaints that did not come from cheaters, they would give further arguments to continue hate. They made the decision not to respond here at all. On the other hand, it is not the official way for users to communicate with support. This is just my theory, but I'm sure you have yours, better ones They offered bad lines. Players bet on them. Instead of just voiding the bet (or just paying it out because it was their mistake) like any honest casino would, they voided the bet and took additional money that didn't belong to them. Now they're ignoring players complaints, and you're defending their actions because the players are being annoying spamming. Quit defending them. It's pathetic. I don't know what the reason is, these are just my guesses. If they would stopped responding only to the cheaters and responded only to real complaints, they would give further arguments to criticize them. It seems logical to me. But I don't really know why they stopped responding. I'm sure you have some theory too?
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December 19, 2021, 04:11:34 AM |
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the saddest part about it all is that even the creator of this thread has stopped responding and solving all the problems the customers have in this thread, which means they are trying to convince people that only a small group of people are accusing them and making up complaints. when in fact these complaints are legitimate
To be honest, it doesn't matter to me anymore whether these complaints are legitimate or not. What matters to me, and what everyone can see here, is their attitude toward the players. They have given themselves the right to treat any customer as a shit, to deny their winnings, and to seize user's funds whenever they want, without providing any explanations or proof. This is in essence a dictatorship. Fortunately, there are plenty of alternatives we can choose from. After all, there were always alternatives for everyone. When it comes to not responding to spam complaints, I think I understand support. When they started responding to complaints, responses were simply ignored and the spam continued. If they will start responding only to complaints that did not come from cheaters, they would give further arguments to continue hate. They made the decision not to respond here at all. On the other hand, it is not the official way for users to communicate with support. This is just my theory, but I'm sure you have yours, better ones They offered bad lines. Players bet on them. Instead of just voiding the bet (or just paying it out because it was their mistake) like any honest casino would, they voided the bet and took additional money that didn't belong to them. Now they're ignoring players complaints, and you're defending their actions because the players are being annoying spamming. Quit defending them. It's pathetic. I don't know what the reason is, these are just my guesses. If they would stopped responding only to the cheaters and responded only to real complaints, they would give further arguments to criticize them. It seems logical to me. But I don't really know why they stopped responding. I'm sure you have some theory too? Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. The issue I have with these guys is they aren't being up front about what happened. Stop using it as an excuse for 1xbit to ignore them. If I saw a line on sportsbet.io, or Stake, or any other reputable sportsbook right now for a match that had just ended, I'd bet on the winner. They might void the bet, or they might just pay me, I don't know. What I do know is that they wouldn't just take my balance for placing the bet. Taking advantage when the House makes a mistake (like setting a bad line, or exposing a card) doesn't make you a cheater.
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December 19, 2021, 04:56:34 AM |
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Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. The issue I have with these guys is they aren't being up front about what happened. Stop using it as an excuse for 1xbit to ignore them.
If I saw a line on sportsbet.io, or Stake, or any other reputable sportsbook right now for a match that had just ended, I'd bet on the winner. They might void the bet, or they might just pay me, I don't know. What I do know is that they wouldn't just take my balance for placing the bet.
Taking advantage when the House makes a mistake (like setting a bad line, or exposing a card) doesn't make you a cheater.
You claim that you are betting on a sport events, knowing its result? Did you just confirm that you did it and are doing this or is it still a hypothetical situation? Somehow I can't imagine you doing something like that ..
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Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. The issue I have with these guys is they aren't being up front about what happened. Stop using it as an excuse for 1xbit to ignore them.
If I saw a line on sportsbet.io, or Stake, or any other reputable sportsbook right now for a match that had just ended, I'd bet on the winner. They might void the bet, or they might just pay me, I don't know. What I do know is that they wouldn't just take my balance for placing the bet.
Taking advantage when the House makes a mistake (like setting a bad line, or exposing a card) doesn't make you a cheater.
You claim that you are betting on a sport events, knowing its result? Did you just confirm that you did it and are doing this or is it still a hypothetical situation? Somehow I can't imagine you doing something like that .. I've never seen a line that was still open after a match ended. That's a pretty stupid and expensive mistake for a sportsbook to make, unless they decided they will just steal the balance from any player that accepts their wager. I really don't see any other explanation for this happening so frequently on 1xbit other than they view the income from stolen funds as part of their business model.
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December 19, 2021, 07:30:02 AM |
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Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. The issue I have with these guys is they aren't being up front about what happened. Stop using it as an excuse for 1xbit to ignore them.
If I saw a line on sportsbet.io, or Stake, or any other reputable sportsbook right now for a match that had just ended, I'd bet on the winner. They might void the bet, or they might just pay me, I don't know. What I do know is that they wouldn't just take my balance for placing the bet.
Taking advantage when the House makes a mistake (like setting a bad line, or exposing a card) doesn't make you a cheater.
You claim that you are betting on a sport events, knowing its result? Did you just confirm that you did it and are doing this or is it still a hypothetical situation? Somehow I can't imagine you doing something like that .. I've never seen a line that was still open after a match ended. That's a pretty stupid and expensive mistake for a sportsbook to make, unless they decided they will just steal the balance from any player that accepts their wager. I really don't see any other explanation for this happening so frequently on 1xbit other than they view the income from stolen funds as part of their business model. So I understand that you have never bet on a sports event knowing its result before? When it comes to delays, it's a strange thing for sure, but we know that things like this happens. I think the fault is not directly on 1xBit side, but on the software provider. Sure, 1xBit probably could disable those troublesome sport events, but unfortunately I don't know why they dont do that. Maybe they can't, or maybe they just prefer to catch those who are trying to cheat.
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December 19, 2021, 08:54:03 AM |
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maybe they just prefer to catch those who are trying to cheat.
Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. If they offer a bet on something that already happened, it's not cheating to accept it. They aren't "catching cheaters". They are the ones cheating the players.
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I am so sad and worried my money still locked. Really dont understand this how they can lock my money... they can block winning but i dont understand how blocking deposit money ? My case: Please help me to back my funds on 1xbit my account. i am so scared about this because yesterday they blocked my account. livechat told me to write on security@1x-bit.com so they will fix this. i write there and after 10 hours they back to me that my account is violation of the Terms and Conditions, but i didnt violated nothing just make first time account there and deposit money to bet, I bet on many games but after some time they log me out and when try to login it said incorrect username and password, but I write correct username and password where i used it before. this is no reason why they block my account with a lot of money inside and hope someone here can help me this to fix because this is missunderstanding and I saw so many posts like mine and i am so sad about this because that money are very important for me and they dont want to replay on emails anymore. in case some support here help me this is the account : 363755613 i am speaking for 700 euro in crypto money in to account, and they are a lot of money. so sad there are a lot of case like mine and hope this will be resolved because I dont see the reason why they blocking my account and not give me my mine money to me, if this is scam i am really sad about this because i deposit on wrong betting website who steal money Sad
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December 19, 2021, 03:38:55 PM |
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Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. If they offer a bet on something that already happened, it's not cheating to accept it.
They aren't "catching cheaters". They are the ones cheating the players.
Exactly. The T&C of these crypto gambling sites usually state that bets placed are final and can't be reverted and the fault lies on the house for offering bad lines. They just keep offering excuses to mask their true intentions. As far as I can see, this is quite a large and well organised scam business, so now I am not surprised why so many similar complaints apper here. It's just an industry! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CourtsidingOffering bad lines and courtsiding are different in several ways shill. You keep spouting nonsense in order to continue defending this scam site which clearly isn't working.
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December 19, 2021, 04:27:31 PM |
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Betting on a bad line doesn't make you a cheater. If they offer a bet on something that already happened, it's not cheating to accept it.
They aren't "catching cheaters". They are the ones cheating the players.
Exactly. The T&C of these crypto gambling sites usually state that bets placed are final and can't be reverted and the fault lies on the house for offering bad lines. They just keep offering excuses to mask their true intentions. As far as I can see, this is quite a large and well organised scam business, so now I am not surprised why so many similar complaints apper here. It's just an industry! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CourtsidingOffering bad lines and courtsiding are different in several ways shill. You keep spouting nonsense in order to continue defending this scam site which clearly isn't working. Either you have not read anything from the links I have provided, or you are simply immune to knowledge. It is not about any "bad lines", it is about an entire industry that cheats by using differences in data transfer speeds, i.e. the results of sports events. I would like to give you all the examples that appeared in this thread again, but it is a waste of time, because you will not understand it anyway.
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December 19, 2021, 04:30:55 PM |
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There are many court decisions in cases against bookmakers according to which bets cannot be canceled. Even if a technical error of the type 1.01 and incorrectly written 101 must be paid on 101.
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December 19, 2021, 04:48:14 PM |
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There are many court decisions in cases against bookmakers according to which bets cannot be canceled. Even if a technical error of the type 1.01 and incorrectly written 101 must be paid on 101.
I am really just beginning to get interested in such cases. Certainly the law is more complicated and probably differs from country to country. In the cases that are described in the links I have provided, it is not about bookmaker mistake, but about abuse of data transfer speed. I don't know what exactly happened here, but I have suspicions that this is the way how some users tried to cheat 1xbit.
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shasan
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December 19, 2021, 06:37:18 PM |
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Hello 1xbit. I have been using your site for more then a year now without any problems. Today when i tried to login into my account it says "Incorrect username or password!" I want to mention that i never did something wrong and i dont have multiple accounts. Also i had 53 mbtc left in my account. Please check and let me know what is the problem. account id: 222429071
I think you have given incorrect login id (username) or password. If you have provided all the accurate information then leave it; you have already been scammed. There is no chance to regain your fund (if you have). If you read any page of this thread randomly then you will be able to know what I am trying to say. Also, you may look at the title of the post!
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