Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Kasabus]

Friends, I might disappoint you by saying that Bivol vs Beterbiev fight is not going to happen in nearest future. The reason is simple - Dmitri Bivol is representing Russia. In November 2022, Mauricio Sulaiman, world boxing council, has removed Russian and Belorussian boxer from ranking and dont allow them to participate. So either the war ends before their potential fight (not likely), or he will make an exception for Bivol (also not likely), or Bivol would have to change his passport. Probably both will have one more fight before they might possibly meet.

I don't think all those options will happen. Damn war and politics affecting our beloved sports. Thanks for clearing that out though, it seems like we forgot there's a war happening out there.
Also according here, he has not approached WBC yet for an exemption.

“Bivol has not approached the WBC (to ask for an exemption)," Sulaiman told reporters and Izquierdazo. “At our last Convention, we were very clear about our position in relation to fighters from Russia and Belarus. And that is the case with Bivol."

Well, I guess we have no choice but to wait for that war to end.

We almost forgot it since it's been a year since these 2 countries are still bombarding with each other. Many Ukrainians are affected, heritages being destroyed and at the same time, sports has been affected on these 2 countries and that includes the boxers from Russia and Belarus which is a bit unfortunate if you are a boxing fan. I just hope that this war will end soon or maybe this year, and I also hope that this war between between 2 countries will not escalate anymore to the point that other countries will join the war.

I guess the best option for Bivol with the 3 options that he shares is to change his passport. I don't expect the WBC to make an exception for him just for the sake of money. Very disappointing, but understandable and it's beyond his control anymore.

Recently I have watched a short video of Beterbiev being interviewed in the airport on a return home. He has said that he is interested in unifying belts, but he has added (figuratively, not saying directly) that "a fight can not happen if one boxer wants to fight, but other dont want to fight". He did not say directly that Bivol refuses, nor he refuses to fight Bivol. But he has made it clear that it is not easy to make this fight. There is something in between. Management, money, politics, tactics. So guess we just need to wait.

Well, that's a great detail, I also think the same, although now the contracts surprise me because of the clause that they always make them sign so that if or when the fights take place, even if the boxer doesn't want to, he has to make use of activating said clause, I I am more of what they think that if the boxer does not want the other to always try to find a way to convince him, now there are many things like social networks, then there is no need for an apparent clause, I imagine that such a clause is to ensure the spectacle, but I don't see it very clearly is my way of seeing it, things are now handled on another level.

What Beterbiev said in that interview really interests me if what does he mean by that, I know he couldn't say it directly that Bivol is refusing to make the fight happen but it's already clear who he meant as there is nobody else who holds a belt in the LHW. Now even if both camps will agree to a fight, I doubt that the governing bodies will allow it or at least make the fight legal where it will be a unification fight. There's many hurdle right now between them before they can even start a negotiation.

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[Silberman]

Luis Nery is younger at age 28. 33 wins, 25 KOs, and 1 loss.
Azat Hovhannisyan is 34 years old. 21 wins, 17 KOs, and 3 losses.
Nery had more bouts experience even at his young age. Will definitely bet for him on this fight. He is also the favorite to win. I just wish he learned that mistake from the fight against Figueroa where he was defeated with a body shot. Strengthening his body will be a big plus for him from now on.

To be fair I do not think that there is much you can do to train when you receive a perfect left hook to the liver, it is like a regular KO in which if you are hit at the perfect spot on the chin you are going down no matter what you do, I have a friend which was a former boxer and I once asked him what was worse if being KO by being punched on the chin or the liver? And he said the liver hands down, since when you are KO by a punch on the chin everything disconnects, your head could ring and you may have headaches but it is bearable, however when you are KO by a punch on the liver you feel all the pain to the point you cannot even move and you will pee blood for days.

[Baofeng]

Luis Nery is younger at age 28. 33 wins, 25 KOs, and 1 loss.
Azat Hovhannisyan is 34 years old. 21 wins, 17 KOs, and 3 losses.
Nery had more bouts experience even at his young age. Will definitely bet for him on this fight. He is also the favorite to win. I just wish he learned that mistake from the fight against Figueroa where he was defeated with a body shot. Strengthening his body will be a big plus for him from now on.

To be fair I do not think that there is much you can do to train when you receive a perfect left hook to the liver, it is like a regular KO in which if you are hit at the perfect spot on the chin you are going down no matter what you do, I have a friend which was a former boxer and I once asked him what was worse if being KO by being punched on the chin or the liver? And he said the liver hands down, since when you are KO by a punch on the chin everything disconnects, your head could ring and you may have headaches but it is bearable, however when you are KO by a punch on the liver you feel all the pain to the point you cannot even move and you will pee blood for days.

So here is the weigh in video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUL8XD1pLP0

Hovhannisyan - 121.6 lbs
Nery - even at 122 lbs

No trash talking, but it seems both just wanted to end their fight very quick. And although Hovhannisyan is 34 years old, I think he can still pull the trigger and give Nery here a good fight.

I agree mate, a punch in the liver is hard to recover, the pain in sends to your whole body is very different. What makes it very painful as compare to being knockout is that you are aware on what's happening to you but you can response to the pain. As compare to a knock out wherein once you taste the canvass, it's just lights out, no excruciating pain that will last even for 5 bloody minutes with a perfect liver shot, you are just on the floor, kneeling.

[Baofeng]

I do hope that you have watch the fight between Nery vs Hovhannisyan because it was really a war that everyone is expecting of this fight. Nery was so tired in the fight but he was able to weathered by storm by stopping Azat out in the 11th round. Round 10 was a war, Nery dropping Hovhannisyan in an 8 count.

And with this win, I think he is in the position for a Inoue vs Fulton war and this is what he wanted, during his post fight interview.

In the other co-main event, WBA Continental Americas Super Middle champ Shane Mosley, Jr defeated Mario Lozano in 10 rounds.

[danherbias07]

No trash talking, but it seems both just wanted to end their fight very quick. And although Hovhannisyan is 34 years old, I think he can still pull the trigger and give Nery here a good fight.

He did give Luis Nery a good fight but the referee decided to stop it at round 11. The officials see something we don't sometimes and this time after Azat Hovhannisyan was punched solid to the face twice by Nery he reacted in a different way. Ref decided to end the match and Nery won the TKO.

I am not really familiar with the names but I'm trusting those records anyway.
A younger fighter with more experience I guess this is a solid upside so we'll see. I'm just trying to get more wins right now betting on each possible winner with just a few dollars to throw every fight. Hopefully, accumulate some wins based on the odds and tips from here.  

I hope you did, it's a win. Azat's face is in a bad shape after the fight. He was wobbly after the first solid punch in Round 11 and he didn't put his arms up to defend against the incoming second punch. That's when he was losing his balance but the referee decided to put an end to it. There's a next time for Azat, it's better if he can still fight rather than continue and be damaged.

[Kemarit]

No trash talking, but it seems both just wanted to end their fight very quick. And although Hovhannisyan is 34 years old, I think he can still pull the trigger and give Nery here a good fight.

He did give Luis Nery a good fight but the referee decided to stop it at round 11. The officials see something we don't sometimes and this time after Azat Hovhannisyan was punched solid to the face twice by Nery he reacted in a different way. Ref decided to end the match and Nery won the TKO.

I am not really familiar with the names but I'm trusting those records anyway.
A younger fighter with more experience I guess this is a solid upside so we'll see. I'm just trying to get more wins right now betting on each possible winner with just a few dollars to throw every fight. Hopefully, accumulate some wins based on the odds and tips from here.  

I hope you did, it's a win. Azat's face is in a bad shape after the fight. He was wobbly after the first solid punch in Round 11 and he didn't put his arms up to defend against the incoming second punch. That's when he was losing his balance but the referee decided to put an end to it. There's a next time for Azat, it's better if he can still fight rather than continue and be damaged.

Congrats to you, I haven't seen the fight, just watch highlights though, and yeah the face of Azat is in bad shape from the power punches of Nery. But this dude is very tough, but in the end he get tired and no more balance in his legs and it's the right call for the referee.

He could still be a good contender, but with this win, Nery put his name again in the discussion to recapture his belt. But let's see how tough he is if he fights Inoue or maybe Casimero, they have been calling each other way before and this could be good match up as well.

[YuginKadoya]

Here are the results of the Boxing match of Wood VS Lara Yesterday, It was a great match Wood was constantly aggressive and always getting that punch inside but Mauricio Lara was composed you can surely see that he is calm and knows what he is doing he is just letting Leigh Wood inside, and do his thing, but Mauricio Lara is really something giving a technical Left hook for Woods,

MAIN EVENT

Mauricio Lara DEF Leigh Wood

CO-MAIN EVENT

Dalton Smith DEF Billy Allington

MAIN CARD

Gary Cully DEF Wilfredo Flores
Diego Alberto Ruiz DEF Gamal Yafai
Kieron Conway DEF Jorge Silva
Junaid Bostan DEF Peter Kramer
Cheavon Clarke DEF Israel Duffus
Sam Maxwell DEF Shaun Cooper
Aaron Bowen DEF Mathieu Gomes

[inthelongrun]

Wow! We had great fights this weekend. I was late to realize that the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight was promoted by GBP since the last time I saw Nery was fighting at PBC. Now Nery will have his 2nd title shot in this division and is waiting for the Inoue-Fulton winner. Nery is really vulnerable in this division.

In the other exciting fight this weekend, I'm so glad Mauricio Lara finally become the champion that he deserved already when he beat Josh Warrington earlier. Former champion Leigh Woods might activate the rematch clause though and will force Lara to return to the UK again. 

[Baofeng]

Wow! We had great fights this weekend. I was late to realize that the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight was promoted by GBP since the last time I saw Nery was fighting at PBC. Now Nery will have his 2nd title shot in this division and is waiting for the Inoue-Fulton winner. Nery is really vulnerable in this division.

In the other exciting fight this weekend, I'm so glad Mauricio Lara finally become the champion that he deserved already when he beat Josh Warrington earlier. Former champion Leigh Woods might activate the rematch clause though and will force Lara to return to the UK again. 

Yes, mate it was another great boxing war, between Lara and Wood at London.

Here is the high-lights of the fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0O4iPp32o. He wanted revenge so he needs to activate his rematch clause, but he took damage in this fight and maybe it will be the same results. Lara doesn't care where the fight will happen again, if it is UK then so be it, the crowd and at festive atmosphere of the British fans though.

He was knock down on un steady legs, but he wanted to continue, however, Ben Davison, Wood’s trainer, threw in the towel and I think it was the right call as he safe his prize pupil from further beating.

[danherbias07]

Wow! We had great fights this weekend. I was late to realize that the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight was promoted by GBP since the last time I saw Nery was fighting at PBC. Now Nery will have his 2nd title shot in this division and is waiting for the Inoue-Fulton winner. Nery is really vulnerable in this division.

In the other exciting fight this weekend, I'm so glad Mauricio Lara finally become the champion that he deserved already when he beat Josh Warrington earlier. Former champion Leigh Woods might activate the rematch clause though and will force Lara to return to the UK again. 

I missed that fight as I was focused on the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight.
Thanks for the highlights link @Baofeng.
Damn, that was a good fight. The haymakers thrown by Lara were so scary that if it hits solid it surely will be a knockout and it did in Round 7. Wood didn't took his time and get up as soon as he can, I think that was a mistake from him. He should've rested for a bit, taken his time, rested, until he get his feet back, and did not show it is wobbly. But his corner saw it, so they threw the towel.
I know Wood could've fought more but I think that's best for him, Lara is all ready to put him down again, he will definitely not waste the opportunity.
Very big win for Lara here and finally, a champion.

[Kemarit]

Wow! We had great fights this weekend. I was late to realize that the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight was promoted by GBP since the last time I saw Nery was fighting at PBC. Now Nery will have his 2nd title shot in this division and is waiting for the Inoue-Fulton winner. Nery is really vulnerable in this division.

In the other exciting fight this weekend, I'm so glad Mauricio Lara finally become the champion that he deserved already when he beat Josh Warrington earlier. Former champion Leigh Woods might activate the rematch clause though and will force Lara to return to the UK again. 

I missed that fight as I was focused on the Luis Nery vs Azat Hovhannisyan fight.
Thanks for the highlights link @Baofeng.
Damn, that was a good fight. The haymakers thrown by Lara were so scary that if it hits solid it surely will be a knockout and it did in Round 7. Wood didn't took his time and get up as soon as he can, I think that was a mistake from him. He should've rested for a bit, taken his time, rested, until he get his feet back, and did not show it is wobbly. But his corner saw it, so they threw the towel.
I know Wood could've fought more but I think that's best for him, Lara is all ready to put him down again, he will definitely not waste the opportunity.
Very big win for Lara here and finally, a champion.

Yes, it was a good call by his corners, he still wanted to fight but his legs is telling not to. His face is also full of blood while he had his time as well stopping sometimes Lara in his track, but Lara has more recuperating power and that punches he thrown is somewhat awkward but very effective because everytime Wood was hit, he will move back, sign that he is hurt. Let's see if Wood is going to activate the rematch, we love to see this 2 warriors in the center of the ring again exchanging big blows. But I guess Lara wil be the favorite again.

[harizen]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

[Dave1]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true though, John Riel was their WBO bantamweight champion, and so it make sense if the body is going to rank him higher since he is a former champion of their organization at 118 lbs.

So I do agree, if this happen then chances are he is inching closer to get another title shot at WBO belt at super bantamweight.

Gonna be exciting news for his fans.

[yazher]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true though, John Riel was their WBO bantamweight champion, and so it make sense if the body is going to rank him higher since he is a former champion of their organization at 118 lbs.

So I do agree, if this happen then chances are he is inching closer to get another title shot at WBO belt at super bantamweight.

Gonna be exciting news for his fans.

His last fight was one of the worse things that happened to him in boxing, he is always cheated either by the opponents or the officials, and that's why the Man is always putting real pressure on his opponents to ensure that the scorecards will be to him. Now that he is close to getting another title fight, he should not act childish or have too much pride in terms of his speech because he hasn't gotten anything yet especially since his opponents nowadays are not worthy of those trash tasks which most of the time becomes the result of his negative images to the fans.

[btc_angela]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true though, John Riel was their WBO bantamweight champion, and so it make sense if the body is going to rank him higher since he is a former champion of their organization at 118 lbs.

So I do agree, if this happen then chances are he is inching closer to get another title shot at WBO belt at super bantamweight.

Gonna be exciting news for his fans.

His last fight was one of the worse things that happened to him in boxing, he is always cheated either by the opponents or the officials, and that's why the Man is always putting real pressure on his opponents to ensure that the scorecards will be to him. Now that he is close to getting another title fight, he should not act childish or have too much pride in terms of his speech because he hasn't gotten anything yet especially since his opponents nowadays are not worthy of those trash tasks which most of the time becomes the result of his negative images to the fans.

Yes, but the Korean boxing commission overturn the decision, and if I'm not mistaken, it already a W on his record colum.

It might not be the statement win that we are expecting of him in his first fight at 122 lbs, but I guess it's still a win after all. I check the recent rankings and it's no rumor, he is rank 5 by WBO and rank 8 by WBC. I think it's already good sign for Casimero to be rank already in his new division. And I do agree that he will be a contender in the future for the belt.

[danherbias07]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

[Fredomago]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

[Baofeng]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

He is, as per the official WBO website, and it seems it was a recent update on their rankings.



https://wboboxing.com/rankings

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

WBO recognized Casimero as he is is a one time WBO bantamweight champion and that is good news for Casimero handlers. As you can see on the standings, Azat and Nery just had their fights, so most likely Casimero next fight will be against those names, hopefully it will be against #2 Ra'eese Aleem.

[bbc.reporter]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

This move to a higher weight division will be good for Casimero because he had problems in weight cutting before in bantamweight. However, he might wait for a very long time before he can get his opportunity to challenge the monster hehehe. Inoue has his ambition to unify the championships of the super bantamweight division and be the first fighter to do it. This implies that if he is the winner against Fulton he will accept the rematch then he will challenge Akhmadaliev for the unification. It also implies that also this fight will also have a rematch clause.

Casimero should also first prove himself by challenging Fulton or Akhmadaliev if they lose twice each against Inoue. The problem however is Inoue might go higher again to featherweight.

[TravelMug]

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

This move to a higher weight division will be good for Casimero because he had problems in weight cutting before in bantamweight. However, he might wait for a very long time before he can get his opportunity to challenge the monster hehehe. Inoue has his ambition to unify the championships of the super bantamweight division and be the first fighter to do it. This implies that if he is the winner against Fulton he will accept the rematch then he will challenge Akhmadaliev for the unification. It also implies that also this fight will also have a rematch clause.

Casimero should also first prove himself by challenging Fulton or Akhmadaliev if they lose twice each against Inoue. The problem however is Inoue might go higher again to featherweight.

He should forget about the monster Inoue though, he had his chance but he blew it already. The first thing that he should do is to capture a belt here. He is now on good position as he bolster and go to rank 5 in the WBO.

Let Fulton vs Inoue fight each other, and then fight the next highest rank that is available to him.

Probably just 2 fights and he will be in for a world title again, regardless of how it is.