Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Kasabus]

Also, Eimantas Stanionis have been ordered by the WBA to be the mandatory challenger to the winner of Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford.

But isn't it there is a rematch clause between Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford? So I doubt that the mandatory fight can happen. Maybe the best thing is to elevate Eimantas Stanionis to full champion.

Yes, there is indeed a rematch clause between Crawford and Spence Jr.

The Crawford-Spence loser has 30 days from the night of their fight to exercise his contractual right to an immediate rematch.

That said, many boxers like Boots Ennis and Stanionis will be affected by this if ever the loser will activate the rematch clause within the 30 days limit because that will mean that they will have to wait again and probably have another fight to keep them warm to keep their rhythm intact.

Yes, the mandatory can't be exercise right away unless those body really impose their rule, but we all doubt that it can happen. We've seen a lot of this body giving special treatment to high profile fighters.

But it's good to see Boots Ennis winning this weekends and maybe him Stanionis can make it this year for Stanionis belt.

And then the winner will have to wait for the Spence and Crawford or at least after their rematch.

No need to wait for these bodies to impose something especially if it is about Crawford and Spence, mainly the latter. It wouldn't be the first time as well if they will give another special treatment because they were able to retain these belts for years now without fighting a mandatory that was not chosen by their camp.

A Stanionis-Ennis fight is an interesting one but I doubt that they will fight and waste their situation right now because they are both on the same line waiting for their turn as they are after a different belt.

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[LUCKMCFLY]

This is weird. Because what I am hearing is that Canelo is 90% close to making a deal against WBC cruiserweight champion Badou Jack. Not an easy fight for Canelo despite Jack at 39 years old. But should Canelo lose again, he remains undisputed at 168 while he's got the chance to become a 5-division world champion if he beats Jack.

Needless to say, what we have here are just a mere speculations of what might be Canelo Alvarez's future move because it sure looks like he got a lot of option right now. But seriously though, CW might be too much for him because it was already clear that he is having a hard time fighting against a natural LHW. What more if it's a CW champion, I can't just imagine what will happen

Anyways, should the rumor of Jermall-Canelo is the one to be made, I wonder if the WBC elevates Benavidez as its champion since he is the interim champ and even fought for an unnecessary eliminator.

As of now, there are no clear signs to Canelo's plan and only their team really knows what's the real score but it will not surprise me anymore if Benavidez will not get his chance even if he's the interim champ because currently, Canelo got the perks of having the organizer, promoter, sanctioning bodies and even judges are on his side.

Yes, that's why it is called rumour though, but as boxing fans, we want to speculate as what will be the next move of their team.

We wanted a Bivol or Benavidez fight, seems not going to happen. Bivol says that the offer is not as good as what they have expected giving the fact that they beat Canelo. And then with the Benavidez fight, it seems that Canelo is not interested.

And so the rumour that recently came out, Charlo the champion at 160 lbs is their next target. So we will see if this is what Canelo's camp wanted and what they are going to accomplished if they chooses a small fighter who is not that active.

It's weird because seeing Bivol do a good job with any boxer is something not to be missed, however Benavidez is a boxer who has been increasing his level, that's what I don't like about current boxers, that you always have him They had to be there licking boots for them to accept a challenge, when before they were nobody, they even fought with anyone who challenged them in the street in order to become famous, now with respect to Bivol he should accept all kinds of challenges, he is someone who needs Being much more valued, he will not fight only with the most famous, because the most famous will not want to fight with him, he has to attract the attention of the famous so that he is at their level.

First of all, we should not forget that this industry is mainly a business industry and of course, those boxers who can bring a much bigger revenue will always have the favor on their side as they are the ones who keeps the money flowing into their pockets. For Benavidez's situation, I know that it is unfortunate that he wasn't given a chance but for sure though that he knows the reality about this industry and whether he like or not, he got no other choice than waiting for Canelo's approval to have that fight.

Yes, and I think that's the bad thing, that a boxer has power over the industry, I don't see any other way to do it, of course I, as a good fan, a connoisseur of the sport and that one always tries to manage things because of emotions of a rematch, or that this boxer has something of a pique with the other, because it is something that we see in various ways, first of all a boxer must know that his life will always be full of challenges, of rematches, if they do not accept that I think that are lost or Useless for it.

Boxers are very concerned about money these days, and it's not bad, it's a good and necessary thing , but they should also see the sense of the Sport , the fans Should also see that the best things are not the Ones that the fans Propose.

Also, Eimantas Stanionis have been ordered by the WBA to be the mandatory challenger to the winner of Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford.

But isn't it there is a rematch clause between Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford? So I doubt that the mandatory fight can happen. Maybe the best thing is to elevate Eimantas Stanionis to full champion.

Yes, there is indeed a rematch clause between Crawford and Spence Jr.

The Crawford-Spence loser has 30 days from the night of their fight to exercise his contractual right to an immediate rematch.

That said, many boxers like Boots Ennis and Stanionis will be affected by this if ever the loser will activate the rematch clause within the 30 days limit because that will mean that they will have to wait again and probably have another fight to keep them warm to keep their rhythm intact.

Yes, the mandatory can't be exercise right away unless those body really impose their rule, but we all doubt that it can happen. We've seen a lot of this body giving special treatment to high profile fighters.

But it's good to see Boots Ennis winning this weekends and maybe him Stanionis can make it this year for Stanionis belt.

And then the winner will have to wait for the Spence and Crawford or at least after their rematch.

No need to wait for these bodies to impose something especially if it is about Crawford and Spence, mainly the latter. It wouldn't be the first time as well if they will give another special treatment because they were able to retain these belts for years now without fighting a mandatory that was not chosen by their camp.

A Stanionis-Ennis fight is an interesting one but I doubt that they will fight and waste their situation right now because they are both on the same line waiting for their turn as they are after a different belt.

The truth is I don't care if they have to face whoever this is, but as they said before, after 30 days they have free time to activate that clause, I think the most important thing now is that Crawford asserts what he so much He has fought everywhere, his fight against Spence, the truth is if he loses it he would be very disappointed and would even begin to understand Spence for having made him wait so long, in fact if he asks for a rematch it is no longer the same emotion, I think it would be handled Anyway, personally here who has to win or win is Crawford, because he should not have stopped training for a single day, now that things are happening to him, he has to give it his all and show what he is made of .


The clause here would have to be activated by Spence, that if he loses right now and activates it after 30 days, well that's something else, I think everything begins to be seen from another point of view, and later if Crawford forces him to fight with another, Well, if he does, he has the level to continue ascending and be more famous, therefore it is more money.


Spence: I Was Willing To Sacrifice A Payday And Another Win To Wait On Terence

Errol Spence was in his right to take another fight earlier this year and force Terence Crawford to wait on him for a dream fight.

That thought never crossed the unified welterweight titlist’s mind.

The decision by the unbeaten Texan to dig in and negotiate directly with Crawford was the driving force to produce their upcoming July 29 undisputed championship. It will mean more than 15 months out of the ring for Spence, who has grown accustomed to such long gaps between fights.

“They wanted me to get another fight,” Spence admitted to a pool of media members during a virtual press conference to discuss the superfight. “I didn’t want to risk an injury, a cut… anything could happen. I just decided to sit in the house, chill and just wait on the Terence fight, or find out if the fight wasn’t happening and then take another fight. I was willing to sacrifice a payday and another win to wait on Terence.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-i-willing-sacrifice-payday-another-win-wait-on-terence--176121


I don't know, but here Spence is talking as if he had everything under control, I don't know if this is worse than praising himself or in a few words he is telling Crawford that he still has to train a lot more to be at his level, I think It's either that he has a lot of confidence or that this boxer really has such a level as to say something like that that seems delicate to me, because it seems to me that he is in control of everything, and this should not look very good for Crawford, he is telling him You are very anxious and it seems Spence is sure to win, this to any boxer in the world who makes statements of this style hits the ego, or it is as we say many times where I live, that Spence is too much.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

[Fredomago]

I don't know, but here Spence is talking as if he had everything under control, I don't know if this is worse than praising himself or in a few words he is telling Crawford that he still has to train a lot more to be at his level, I think It's either that he has a lot of confidence or that this boxer really has such a level as to say something like that that seems delicate to me, because it seems to me that he is in control of everything, and this should not look very good for Crawford, he is telling him You are very anxious and it seems Spence is sure to win, this to any boxer in the world who makes statements of this style hits the ego, or it is as we say many times where I live, that Spence is too much.

I'm seeing it as part of a promotional statement, hyping his statue to make it look like his the one who's sacrificing just for the sake of this fight, something that more speculative opinions will come up, though the good catch here is they manage to settle it and now the scheduled fight take place and for those fans who longing to see this long-delay unification match will finally or hopefully will happen.

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

I agree with those same statements about talking over the phone and make things happen between them and not to wait for any updates from their respective managers is a good sign that they are now serious about these upcoming fights. We just need to wait for the date and for both of them stepping inside the ring without any possible delay.

[Kemarit]

Also, Eimantas Stanionis have been ordered by the WBA to be the mandatory challenger to the winner of Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford.

But isn't it there is a rematch clause between Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford? So I doubt that the mandatory fight can happen. Maybe the best thing is to elevate Eimantas Stanionis to full champion.

Yes, there is indeed a rematch clause between Crawford and Spence Jr.

The Crawford-Spence loser has 30 days from the night of their fight to exercise his contractual right to an immediate rematch.

That said, many boxers like Boots Ennis and Stanionis will be affected by this if ever the loser will activate the rematch clause within the 30 days limit because that will mean that they will have to wait again and probably have another fight to keep them warm to keep their rhythm intact.

Yes, the mandatory can't be exercise right away unless those body really impose their rule, but we all doubt that it can happen. We've seen a lot of this body giving special treatment to high profile fighters.

But it's good to see Boots Ennis winning this weekends and maybe him Stanionis can make it this year for Stanionis belt.

And then the winner will have to wait for the Spence and Crawford or at least after their rematch.

No need to wait for these bodies to impose something especially if it is about Crawford and Spence, mainly the latter. It wouldn't be the first time as well if they will give another special treatment because they were able to retain these belts for years now without fighting a mandatory that was not chosen by their camp.

A Stanionis-Ennis fight is an interesting one but I doubt that they will fight and waste their situation right now because they are both on the same line waiting for their turn as they are after a different belt.

But a Stanionis-Ennis fight will solidify their position, Stanionis is already a champion, the WBA belt champion, but this body needs just to have one champion as they also declare Spence their champion as well.

So I don't think it will just be a waste for their situation, going to be a win-win for either of the two. For Ennis, if he won then he will have a good ranking, and for Stanionis, he could really be the next in line for at least the WBA belt held by Spence.

[Vaculin]

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

Let's just hope that all of that were true and that Spence is indeed genuine about what he is saying because it will not be the first time either if he will act like a fool again and make another circus in the following weeks to make the fight in vain. Anyway, there's two more weeks to go and it seems that this fight is already unstoppable because judging from the All Access, both boxers are already looking forward to dance inside the ring.

[Ziskinberg]

Also, Eimantas Stanionis have been ordered by the WBA to be the mandatory challenger to the winner of Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford.

But isn't it there is a rematch clause between Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford? So I doubt that the mandatory fight can happen. Maybe the best thing is to elevate Eimantas Stanionis to full champion.

Yes, there is indeed a rematch clause between Crawford and Spence Jr.

The Crawford-Spence loser has 30 days from the night of their fight to exercise his contractual right to an immediate rematch.

That said, many boxers like Boots Ennis and Stanionis will be affected by this if ever the loser will activate the rematch clause within the 30 days limit because that will mean that they will have to wait again and probably have another fight to keep them warm to keep their rhythm intact.

Yes, the mandatory can't be exercise right away unless those body really impose their rule, but we all doubt that it can happen. We've seen a lot of this body giving special treatment to high profile fighters.

But it's good to see Boots Ennis winning this weekends and maybe him Stanionis can make it this year for Stanionis belt.

And then the winner will have to wait for the Spence and Crawford or at least after their rematch.

No need to wait for these bodies to impose something especially if it is about Crawford and Spence, mainly the latter. It wouldn't be the first time as well if they will give another special treatment because they were able to retain these belts for years now without fighting a mandatory that was not chosen by their camp.

A Stanionis-Ennis fight is an interesting one but I doubt that they will fight and waste their situation right now because they are both on the same line waiting for their turn as they are after a different belt.

But a Stanionis-Ennis fight will solidify their position, Stanionis is already a champion, the WBA belt champion, but this body needs just to have one champion as they also declare Spence their champion as well.

So I don't think it will just be a waste for their situation, going to be a win-win for either of the two. For Ennis, if he won then he will have a good ranking, and for Stanionis, he could really be the next in line for at least the WBA belt held by Spence.

Hopefully they can set that up because I'm confident that they will waste a lot more time again if they will wait for Crawford and Spence because regardless of the result and considering that the losing camp will not pursue a rematch, the winning side will be due to have a few months of rest especially after the fact that they can command and control these sanctioning bodies to avoid a mandatory fight for a meantime.

[Baofeng]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

[Botnake]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

For safety, I guess? Because apart from that, why would he carry a weapon inside his car and since he was arrested, then that gun was probably not registered to him because if that was registered then there should be no ruckus involving his name.

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

Not to boast but I expected this to happen, not to Devin Haney as a target specifically but I already thought that Teo Lopez might surprise us again as he now feel the urge to be somebody as he is now a champion at 140 lbs. because there is no sense at all in retirement at such an early age after winning a championship.

[bittraffic]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

For safety, I guess? Because apart from that, why would he carry a weapon inside his car and since he was arrested, then that gun was probably not registered to him because if that was registered then there should be no ruckus involving his name.

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

Not to boast but I expected this to happen, not to Devin Haney as a target specifically but I already thought that Teo Lopez might surprise us again as he now feel the urge to be somebody as he is now a champion at 140 lbs. because there is no sense at all in retirement at such an early age after winning a championship.

Any boxer would not think Teo was serious about his retirement. He just did the best performance of his entire career to win against Taylor so it didn't make sense seeing him retire. Somehow a boxer who comes back after retirement will be talked for awhile.  Now that he had achieved some greatness, he will need to aim higher and beat up the undisputed champs above him.

Would they get bigger pay if they once tried retiring? He isn't the first to have done this so it must be something for such gain.

[inthelongrun]

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

Let's just hope that all of that were true and that Spence is indeed genuine about what he is saying because it will not be the first time either if he will act like a fool again and make another circus in the following weeks to make the fight in vain. Anyway, there's two more weeks to go and it seems that this fight is already unstoppable because judging from the All Access, both boxers are already looking forward to dance inside the ring.

Props to Bud Crawford for doing his best to finally make this fight. He made a lot of sacrifices for this fight to happen. I believe Spence was finally persuaded by Bud after learning about the mouth-watering 1.2 million PPV buys of the Tank-Kingry fight which generated over a hundred million dollars in revenue. Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury. But I believe that this fight is really going to happen. Spence is not getting younger too and those sanctioning bodies cannot protect him forever from facing these young high-risk and low-reward mandatory contenders.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

Let's just hope that all of that were true and that Spence is indeed genuine about what he is saying because it will not be the first time either if he will act like a fool again and make another circus in the following weeks to make the fight in vain. Anyway, there's two more weeks to go and it seems that this fight is already unstoppable because judging from the All Access, both boxers are already looking forward to dance inside the ring.

Props to Bud Crawford for doing his best to finally make this fight. He made a lot of sacrifices for this fight to happen. I believe Spence was finally persuaded by Bud after learning about the mouth-watering 1.2 million PPV buys of the Tank-Kingry fight which generated over a hundred million dollars in revenue. Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury. But I believe that this fight is really going to happen. Spence is not getting younger too and those sanctioning bodies cannot protect him forever from facing these young high-risk and low-reward mandatory contenders.

Props to both, I mean Bud is pursuing Spence but Errol might have some other plans, but then again, this is just a great opportunity that Spence and his team can't passed. They really have to do it before it's too late, like the Manny vs Floyd wherein Manny has shoulder injuries already.

So this has to happen while they are still at the peak of their career and no excuses for the loser because there will be a rematch clause.

And I think since the hype is building, who knows, maybe they can reach at least 1 million PPV or even more than that the Garcia vs Davis fight.

[harizen]

Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury.

If I remember before, during the rumored (or supposed?) fight between Spence Jr. and Keith Thurman at 152, the former's camp claimed that their boxer is not that fit anymore or in good shape to fight at 147 and consider it as one of the reason why Spence will moved up weight and won't fight Crawford. Regardless if that's true or not, still props to him for finally accepting the fight with Crawford and now finally settle the deal that takes several years in the process.

I can't say that both boxers are still at their respective peak, like the way they performed during their prime, but referring to being in "good shape", I think Terence Crawford do have much of that characteristic. Not spoiling the fun or being negative but as I previously said before, not until the day of the fight, there's still a chance that this fight might lead into unexpected scenario "knowing how Spence's camp drama and behaves" since then.

[btc_angela]

Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury.

If I remember before, during the rumored (or supposed?) fight between Spence Jr. and Keith Thurman at 152, the former's camp claimed that their boxer is not that fit anymore or in good shape to fight at 147 and consider it as one of the reason why Spence will moved up weight and won't fight Crawford. Regardless if that's true or not, still props to him for finally accepting the fight with Crawford and now finally settle the deal that takes several years in the process.

I think this is maybe the back up plan fight for Spence, to go up to 154 and fight Thurman if he can't secure a fight with Crawford. And that's what really happens though, as the first negotiation bog down.

I can't say that both boxers are still at their respective peak, like the way they performed during their prime, but referring to being in "good shape", I think Terence Crawford do have much of that characteristic. Not spoiling the fun or being negative but as I previously said before, not until the day of the fight, there's still a chance that this fight might lead into unexpected scenario "knowing how Spence's camp drama and behaves" since then.

I think they are still in the best shape of their career. They are just about the right age to be on top of their game mid's 30. We have seen Manny fighting bigger guys at this age and beating them hard.

[carlisle1]

Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury.

If I remember before, during the rumored (or supposed?) fight between Spence Jr. and Keith Thurman at 152, the former's camp claimed that their boxer is not that fit anymore or in good shape to fight at 147 and consider it as one of the reason why Spence will moved up weight and won't fight Crawford. Regardless if that's true or not, still props to him for finally accepting the fight with Crawford and now finally settle the deal that takes several years in the process.

I can't say that both boxers are still at their respective peak, like the way they performed during their prime, but referring to being in "good shape", I think Terence Crawford do have much of that characteristic. Not spoiling the fun or being negative but as I previously said before, not until the day of the fight, there's still a chance that this fight might lead into unexpected scenario "knowing how Spence's camp drama and behaves" since then.

I like to add on that, just how Spence failed the fans during the schedule fight against Pacquiao, and same with you, until we are
not seeing them both inside the ring, there's still a chance that it won't happen.

Though in terms of giving credits for both camps for signing and making these to happen, I would say they should bring this much earlier.
But, on the other hand, it's better than never, right?

[Dave1]

Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury.

If I remember before, during the rumored (or supposed?) fight between Spence Jr. and Keith Thurman at 152, the former's camp claimed that their boxer is not that fit anymore or in good shape to fight at 147 and consider it as one of the reason why Spence will moved up weight and won't fight Crawford. Regardless if that's true or not, still props to him for finally accepting the fight with Crawford and now finally settle the deal that takes several years in the process.

I can't say that both boxers are still at their respective peak, like the way they performed during their prime, but referring to being in "good shape", I think Terence Crawford do have much of that characteristic. Not spoiling the fun or being negative but as I previously said before, not until the day of the fight, there's still a chance that this fight might lead into unexpected scenario "knowing how Spence's camp drama and behaves" since then.

I like to add on that, just how Spence failed the fans during the schedule fight against Pacquiao, and same with you, until we are
not seeing them both inside the ring, there's still a chance that it won't happen.

Yes, and it could be a different outcome? But we all know that Spence suffered a eye injury or at least it was found on the pre-medical before they fight. So it's kinda disappointing not to him with the legend and it won't happen again. So it's a big lost for Spence more than for any boxer.

Though in terms of giving credits for both camps for signing and making these to happen, I would say they should bring this much earlier.
But, on the other hand, it's better than never, right?

True, at least both camps have settled down and talk about the fight and all agreed about the split and who will get the most money and then they included a rematch clause just in case. And now we are just weeks from this fight happening.

[Kemarit]

^^ It's a different story though if you are going to ask Bud Crawford. But they both admit that they talk on the phone for at least 30 minutes just to be sure that they are both on the same page as far as fighting each other.

So that is good enough to know that at least they go old school, I mean they are the one who makes the fight and didn't go the route on "talk to my manager". And with that, everything is set now. We will finally see a unification fight at 147 lbs and this is going to be huge.

Let's just hope that all of that were true and that Spence is indeed genuine about what he is saying because it will not be the first time either if he will act like a fool again and make another circus in the following weeks to make the fight in vain. Anyway, there's two more weeks to go and it seems that this fight is already unstoppable because judging from the All Access, both boxers are already looking forward to dance inside the ring.

Props to Bud Crawford for doing his best to finally make this fight. He made a lot of sacrifices for this fight to happen. I believe Spence was finally persuaded by Bud after learning about the mouth-watering 1.2 million PPV buys of the Tank-Kingry fight which generated over a hundred million dollars in revenue. Although there is indeed a chance for Spence to make a fool of himself by making excuses like an injury. But I believe that this fight is really going to happen. Spence is not getting younger too and those sanctioning bodies cannot protect him forever from facing these young high-risk and low-reward mandatory contenders.

I mean if that is what Spence done in the first negotiation, called him and talk over the phone, then they could have fought already. But there are a lot of people behind Spence and maybe he block it away and just simply over the phone line and this two explain what's the impact of the fight not just for them, but for boxing themselves without talking about the numbers and who's getting the A-side, then I will really commend Spence for during that. And perhaps that's why they don't believed that they need to disrespect each other to promote the fight but mutual respect between the two.

[mirakal]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

For safety, I guess? Because apart from that, why would he carry a weapon inside his car and since he was arrested, then that gun was probably not registered to him because if that was registered then there should be no ruckus involving his name.

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

Not to boast but I expected this to happen, not to Devin Haney as a target specifically but I already thought that Teo Lopez might surprise us again as he now feel the urge to be somebody as he is now a champion at 140 lbs. because there is no sense at all in retirement at such an early age after winning a championship.

Any boxer would not think Teo was serious about his retirement. He just did the best performance of his entire career to win against Taylor so it didn't make sense seeing him retire. Somehow a boxer who comes back after retirement will be talked for awhile.  Now that he had achieved some greatness, he will need to aim higher and beat up the undisputed champs above him.

Would they get bigger pay if they once tried retiring? He isn't the first to have done this so it must be something for such gain.

For some boxers, that technique will work because the organizers will be forced to give more guaranteed money as a fight that got their name on it will be much more sellable to the public. But for Teofimo Lopez? I doubt he can use that technique effectively as he is not gaining much attention from the public which will follow him in his fights or at least got a massive fan bases. But since he doesn't have any of those, I don't know what he's up to or what he is trying to do with this act.

[Fredomago]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

For safety, I guess? Because apart from that, why would he carry a weapon inside his car and since he was arrested, then that gun was probably not registered to him because if that was registered then there should be no ruckus involving his name.

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

Not to boast but I expected this to happen, not to Devin Haney as a target specifically but I already thought that Teo Lopez might surprise us again as he now feel the urge to be somebody as he is now a champion at 140 lbs. because there is no sense at all in retirement at such an early age after winning a championship.

Any boxer would not think Teo was serious about his retirement. He just did the best performance of his entire career to win against Taylor so it didn't make sense seeing him retire. Somehow a boxer who comes back after retirement will be talked for awhile.  Now that he had achieved some greatness, he will need to aim higher and beat up the undisputed champs above him.

Would they get bigger pay if they once tried retiring? He isn't the first to have done this so it must be something for such gain.

For some boxers, that technique will work because the organizers will be forced to give more guaranteed money as a fight that got their name on it will be much more sellable to the public. But for Teofimo Lopez? I doubt he can use that technique effectively as he is not gaining much attention from the public which will follow him in his fights or at least got a massive fan bases. But since he doesn't have any of those, I don't know what he's up to or what he is trying to do with this act.

And we all know that it's more about business and if your name is not that much sellable then interest from the organizer will not be there for you, I follow you with your statement about Teo, not that much hypes if he's aiming for better compensation or larger compensation this kind of scenario or situation might not work.

He might need to fight a bigger name and beat them to create more hypes for his career and start demanding for much higher paycheck.

[Botnake]

So much for his image?

According to a report on TMZ, undisputed lightweight world champion Devin Haney was arrested on Thursday morning following a night out in Hollywood, California.

Law enforcement sources indicate to TMZ that they found a semi-automatic handgun in his car during a routine traffic stop.

https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-arrested-hollywood-over-firearm-found-car--176113

But he is out because he posted a bail, but why does he has to carry a weapon?

For safety, I guess? Because apart from that, why would he carry a weapon inside his car and since he was arrested, then that gun was probably not registered to him because if that was registered then there should be no ruckus involving his name.

There is also a news that Teo Lopez is back and is looking for a 140 lbs clash with Devin Haney. We all know that Teo said that he has officially retired after beating Josh Taylor. Now, WBO has order a fight between Arnold Barboza and Jose Ramirez. But Lopez was given 24 hours to respond and block that fight and so he did. But he wanted Haney in his return as Devin says that he will move up in weight. So lots of interesting development here.

Not to boast but I expected this to happen, not to Devin Haney as a target specifically but I already thought that Teo Lopez might surprise us again as he now feel the urge to be somebody as he is now a champion at 140 lbs. because there is no sense at all in retirement at such an early age after winning a championship.

Any boxer would not think Teo was serious about his retirement. He just did the best performance of his entire career to win against Taylor so it didn't make sense seeing him retire. Somehow a boxer who comes back after retirement will be talked for awhile.  Now that he had achieved some greatness, he will need to aim higher and beat up the undisputed champs above him.

Would they get bigger pay if they once tried retiring? He isn't the first to have done this so it must be something for such gain.

Well, we can say that Teofimo Lopez is just trying to make his name even bigger and to draw out more money in his future fights that is why he is saying that this kind of stuffs. I think that is already unusual for boxers that young to express their retirement after winning a big fight against a big name. Other than that, I don't see any reasons that he is that serious about his retirement.