Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

A little bit off topic, but I just read the Kremlin has started to recruit people fromm una in order to keep the war going in the eastern front. Specifically, people from Cuba (where minimum wage is less than 30$) is being kured through internet to join the Russian army in exchange of a salary of 2000$ and the possibility to apply for Russian nationality.
I had heard Ukraine was alledgely running out of people to fight the war, but I did not expect something similar could be happening in Russia.

Obviously, It has been already proven an important percentage of Russians are not willing to get in the front, otherwise many young men would have not fled the country as they did at the beginning of the conflict.
Regardless of what it is actually going on, I doubt those cuban men are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into, though, I would not judge them if they monthly payment in their island is less than what anyone of us would easily spend for dinner.

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

I think that race statistic are not collected, but most of the less dangerous positions are usually given to "the right people" from the right family and place.

But what is the catch for mercs? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send them to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/asia/nepal-fighters-russia-ukraine-families-intl-cmd/index.html

“I didn’t join the Russian military for pleasure. I didn’t have any job opportunities in Nepal. But in hindsight, it wasn’t the right decision. We didn’t realize we would be sent to the frontlines that quickly and how horrible the situation would be,”

“If the worst has happened to him, it’ll be worse than going to hell for us. We don’t have a future for the rest of our lives,” she said. Sunar burst into tears as she shared how she was unable to explain to her children where their father is.

Nepal’s foreign ministry in December urged Russia to stop recruiting Nepali citizens and send home the remains of those killed in the war.

“We are very much concerned that Russia has recruited our citizens and sent them to war zones in vulnerable situations,” Nepali Foreign Minister N. P. Saud told CNN in an interview in his office in Kathmandu.

The Nepalese government only allows joining the Brit army, they have their own units, the Ghurkhas, which are considered among the best prepared for combat. There are 100s of applicants for each available place and they have been known to continue fighting even with 90% loses.

[Branko]

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

But what is the catch? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send then to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

After all, thats why Rooineks recruited Ukrainians to fight for them

[paxmao]

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

But what is the catch? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send then to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

After all, thats why Rooineks recruited Ukrainians to fight for them

The reason why NATO is not involved fully in the Ukrainian war yet is to prevent escalation. Otherwise, you will be celebrating glorious victories of the Ruzzians 10 km from Moscow. Putin knows this perfectly well.

I guess Branko that being Ukrainian and having their own country makes better sense to Ukrainians than getting sent by the Ruzzians against Letonians, Lithuanians or Finnish.

[Branko]

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

But what is the catch? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send then to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

After all, thats why Rooineks recruited Ukrainians to fight for them

The reason why NATO is not involved fully in the Ukrainian war yet is to prevent escalation. Otherwise, you will be celebrating glorious victories of the Ruzzians 10 km from Moscow. Putin knows this perfectly well.

I guess Branko that being Ukrainian and having their own country makes better sense to Ukrainians than getting sent by the Ruzzians against Letonians, Lithuanians or Finnish.

NATO is not involved? Seems you lived under a rock for last 10+ years, or maybe you have some strange definition of "involnment"

And NATO is not 10km from Moscow because your whole island would be sent to meet Aquaman

[DaRude]

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Rather simple answer, to minimize suffering and loss of life. Rooting for or defending one side or another is only good for sport competition, when real lives are involved one needs to be pragmatic. Discussing what's ethical wrong/right for Ukraine is as good as discussing what's ethical wrong/right for independent self governing Cuba. Needlessly dragging out this conflict has real costs in human lives and is just criminal.

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None of that is true. You do not seek peace, you seek surrender. You use all the news that are partial to one side, which means that you are seeking peace in very specific terms - Putin terms. do be such a hypocrite, it is embarrassing.

The peace you seek is just a stop to rearm Ruzzia and get the war going again in a few years.

Only just saw this edit. US set the precedent of what such peace terms should look like in Cuba, but luckily I don't expect anything close to that out of Russia, most likely things in Ukraine will just go back to the way they were in 2013 prior to all this madness.

A little bit off topic, but I just read the Kremlin has started to recruit people fromm una in order to keep the war going in the eastern front. Specifically, people from Cuba (where minimum wage is less than 30$) is being kured through internet to join the Russian army in exchange of a salary of 2000$ and the possibility to apply for Russian nationality.
I had heard Ukraine was alledgely running out of people to fight the war, but I did not expect something similar could be happening in Russia.

Obviously, It has been already proven an important percentage of Russians are not willing to get in the front, otherwise many young men would have not fled the country as they did at the beginning of the conflict.
Regardless of what it is actually going on, I doubt those cuban men are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into, though, I would not judge them if they monthly payment in their island is less than what anyone of us would easily spend for dinner.

Mercs are a closely guarded secret, but at the same time are no surprise to anyone. Look up Ukrainian Foreign Legion and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Foreign_fighters_and_volunteers to get some idea of the scale from both sides.

It's somehow strange to see DaRude constantly wasting his time to defend RuZZIa's war against Ukraine.
Why is he wasting his time to defend RuZZia's war against Ukraine?
Why should someone waste his life time to root for Putler in an online forum?
Why does he want to dictate Ukrainians to just surrender against Putler?
Would he do the same if he was in a position how Ukraine is today, that he will listen to someone who just wants to do whatever dictatorship Russia will impose over Ukraine?

Once again, what a waste of time to defend RuZZian war crimes in an online forum.

I hope DaRude getting paid handsomely, at least.

Rather simple answer, to minimize suffering and loss of life. Rooting for or defending one side or another is only good for sport competition, when real lives are involved one needs to be pragmatic. Discussing what's ethical wrong/right for Ukraine is as good as discussing what's ethical wrong/right for independent self governing Cuba. Needlessly dragging out this conflict has real costs in human lives and is just criminal.

Now BlackRock/bondholders/money is smelling the smoke and wants a cut from the $60B for Ukraine, trying to get at least something before it's too late Bondholders to Push Ukraine to Resume Debt Payments After Hiatus ignore at your peril

So Ukraine has literal investors and big corporations/especulators of Wall Street as backers... That is something I was not quite aware of and it could be indeed a problem for the Ukrainian government and the people of that country to have those kind of benefactors... They do not care at all for the Ukrainian motherland, at all.
They just want to have their money back and have those juicy interests from Kiev, they are in a business after all, not a charity...
I thought most of the money going to Ukraine was being paid indirectly by the American people and the taxpayers from the European Union, it is a completely different to owe money to a state than having to pay to a corporation or a conglomerate of capitalists and business people.

Though, as long as the government of the United States continues to keep a positive standing in favor of the defense of Ukraine, then Kiev could be able to deal a favorable payment plan for those companies and conglomerates.

All wars need to be financed, and financiers aka banks are the ones doing the financing. Rothschild famously made a fortune by front running news about the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo. Now of course this is not a charity so all war bonds need to be backed by some juicy collateral to be worthwhile. In fact as they're only driven by returns many times they'd finance both sides for arbitrage.

The group wants Kyiv, which is fresh off clinching roughly $60 billion in U.S. aid, to strike a deal in which it would resume payments in exchange for forgiveness of a big chunk of the country’s outstanding debt. Some bondholders in the group have discussed the plans with senior officials in Kyiv.

Now ask yourself why would BlackRock hire lawyers and be willing to forgive a big chunk of debt just for at least some payments, but right now? Perhaps of the kindness from their pure hearts or ...

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

But what is the catch? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send then to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

After all, thats why Rooineks recruited Ukrainians to fight for them

The reason why NATO is not involved fully in the Ukrainian war yet is to prevent escalation. Otherwise, you will be celebrating glorious victories of the Ruzzians 10 km from Moscow. Putin knows this perfectly well.

I guess Branko that being Ukrainian and having their own country makes better sense to Ukrainians than getting sent by the Ruzzians against Letonians, Lithuanians or Finnish.

The reason i didn't punch Muhammad Ali is because i was afraid of escalations with him. Otherwise, if he wouldn't escalate and fight back, he'd run crying to his mamma   classic paxmao

[LTU_btc]

A little bit off topic, but I just read the Kremlin has started to recruit people fromm una in order to keep the war going in the eastern front. Specifically, people from Cuba (where minimum wage is less than 30$) is being kured through internet to join the Russian army in exchange of a salary of 2000$ and the possibility to apply for Russian nationality.
I had heard Ukraine was alledgely running out of people to fight the war, but I did not expect something similar could be happening in Russia.

Obviously, It has been already proven an important percentage of Russians are not willing to get in the front, otherwise many young men would have not fled the country as they did at the beginning of the conflict.
Regardless of what it is actually going on, I doubt those cuban men are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into, though, I would not judge them if they monthly payment in their island is less than what anyone of us would easily spend for dinner.

I think it's nothing new here. Already in first year of war we saw people mainly from Nepal, some African countries fighting for Russia.
I don't think Russia is hiring them because they're running out of people. It's more just a way to get some cheap meat. And now it doesn't looks that number of such mercenaries is very significant.

[paxmao]

Some news recently said that a few Nepalese volunteers left ("deserted") because of the conditions they had. When a Nepalese guy deserts you army due to "conditions", it is the moment to think what is going on.

But regardless, yes, the Ruzzian army tends not to be Ruzzian, but rather from any of the regions made poor by the regime. If they take Ukraine, they will use Ukrainians against others as well. This is a classic - you do not want to recruit in Moscow or St Petersburg or you may get revolts, you go recruit in Chechenia, Siberia,... and of course internationally in Nepal, China,...

But what is the catch? 2000 usd a month is like a dream come true for half the world right? Well, the catch is that you get paid only while you are alive, so there is a very good incentive to send then to the most dangerous meatwaves. If only 1 out of 20 make it alive the payroll is only 5%.

After all, thats why Rooineks recruited Ukrainians to fight for them

The reason why NATO is not involved fully in the Ukrainian war yet is to prevent escalation. Otherwise, you will be celebrating glorious victories of the Ruzzians 10 km from Moscow. Putin knows this perfectly well.

I guess Branko that being Ukrainian and having their own country makes better sense to Ukrainians than getting sent by the Ruzzians against Letonians, Lithuanians or Finnish.

NATO is not involved? Seems you lived under a rock for last 10+ years, or maybe you have some strange definition of "involnment"

And NATO is not 10km from Moscow because your whole island would be sent to meet Aquaman

Read what is written, do not put words in my mouth. I do not have an island, I guess you are speaking of Great Britain. Sorry if I am breaking this to you, but plenty of the children of the Ruzzian "elite" study in the UK and plenty of their assets are conveniently hidden and sometimes not hidden in the UK.

As far as you are concern, I am a copy of a brain uploaded into an AI living in a world cluster of cloud servers. Just read "The Neuromancer" to understand. The nuclear deterrence cuts both ways.

Today it seems that all the worthless Western weapons that according to daRude "do not make a difference", "do not work", etc.  have "not worked" as far as Mariupol. This is despite daRude assuring everyone here that ATACAMS and all the rest would be stopped by the S300 / 400.

I think that Ruzzia should now try an strategy that Facebook and Twitter followed - renaming e.g. S400 to S500 or even to "S-600 Putin-plus airdefence" so that they start being effective against NATO supplies.

I am just waiting for the F16 to "not work".

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Now ask yourself why would BlackRock hire lawyers and be willing to forgive a big chunk of debt just for at least some payments, but right now? Perhaps of the kindness from their pure hearts or ...
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The reason i didn't punch Muhammad Ali is because i was afraid of escalations with him. Otherwise, if he wouldn't escalate and fight back, he'd run crying to his mamma    classic paxmao

There is nothing to ask about. You may be discovering how high-yield bonds work, but many of us already know.

Ukraine will pay debt and quite a bit of it will be forgiven in exchange for XYZ. I said this many times, there are winners in this war but they are not Ruzzia, Ukraine nor Europe. All thanks to Putin´s "great geostrategic vision" that has made Gazprom loose money for the first time in 20 years, expand NATO faster than ever and burn through the Soviet weapons legacy platforms faster than ever.

But hey, I would not be surprised if Putin had a significant stake in Blackrock funds through some opaque scheme of companies and actually profiting from Ukraine´s debt. He is not going to die for it, the Ruzzian soldiers do.

Overall, Ruzzia is left with more enemies, Putin is probably making more money than ever and if all goes to plan Ukraine will have their independence and perhaps some generations of peace to build a country - likely under the NATO umbrella. Who are the true losers here? The average Ruzzian / Federated citizen and the families of the Ruzzian mercenaries.

Your other comment is stupid, classic daRude. NATO is not for now deploying troops under the NATO structure or mandate because there is no interest nor incentive in that type of escalation. It is much simpler to allow Ruzzia to be as incompetent as they are and self-demilitarise for a few farms and flattened minor cities for which the US has little interest.

The return on investment for the aid to Ukraine is excellent. Please, keep up the military incompetence, it makes the world a safer place.

This below is probably the tiny tiny bit of an iceberg of Putin assets in "the west" that he claims he is fighting.

Billions in assets. Hint: not in Ruzzia


And his brood is said to be living in Switzerland. Give whatever credit you want to this, is not really that relevant.


https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-children-alina-kabaeva-keeps-them-hidden-in-luxury-report-2023-3

[Hispo]

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I think it's nothing new here. Already in first year of war we saw people mainly from Nepal, some African countries fighting for Russia.
I don't think Russia is hiring them because they're running out of people. It's more just a way to get some cheap meat. And now it doesn't looks that number of such mercenaries is very significant.

Well, the report I saw on the Cuban people going to Russia to fight for Putin was talking about four hundred civilians who became military units in the front, that is indeed quite an small number of soldiers, which is unlikely to make a difference on the result of battles by its own, so I am not sure what is the objective of this recruitment campaign. It could be about slowly recruiting foreigners, so Putin would not need to gather his own population and levy for more native Russians to go fight in the front.

I am not sure I would call these people to be used as "cheap meat" as you call them, if the numbers of their salaries and the possibility on getting Russian citizenship are not unfunded, then they are being paid very good salaries, considering they come from a third world country like Cuba. I am not informed on those citizens from Nepal and African countries though, It makes sense something like that could be happening.

[be.open]

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I think it's nothing new here. Already in first year of war we saw people mainly from Nepal, some African countries fighting for Russia.
I don't think Russia is hiring them because they're running out of people. It's more just a way to get some cheap meat. And now it doesn't looks that number of such mercenaries is very significant.

Well, the report I saw on the Cuban people going to Russia to fight for Putin was talking about four hundred civilians who became military units in the front, that is indeed quite an small number of soldiers, which is unlikely to make a difference on the result of battles by its own, so I am not sure what is the objective of this recruitment campaign. It could be about slowly recruiting foreigners, so Putin would not need to gather his own population and levy for more native Russians to go fight in the front.

I am not sure I would call these people to be used as "cheap meat" as you call them, if the numbers of their salaries and the possibility on getting Russian citizenship are not unfunded, then they are being paid very good salaries, considering they come from a third world country like Cuba. I am not informed on those citizens from Nepal and African countries though, It makes sense something like that could be happening.

In Russia, against the background of a colossal redundancy of any resources, there is a shortage of manpower. The point is not even in the losses at the front (although of course there are those too), and not in the wave of emigration after the start of the special operation (although of course there was that too), but rather in the demographic failure, which is a consequence of the acute crisis of the 1990s after the collapse of the USSR. The current unemployment rate of 2.7% is an unprecedented low in Russia.

Actually, therefore, it is not surprising that Russia offers foreigners from Africa and Latin America favorable conditions and a simplified scheme for obtaining citizenship through a contract with the Ministry of Defense. I think this program will expand.

[DaRude]

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Now ask yourself why would BlackRock hire lawyers and be willing to forgive a big chunk of debt just for at least some payments, but right now? Perhaps of the kindness from their pure hearts or ...
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The reason i didn't punch Muhammad Ali is because i was afraid of escalations with him. Otherwise, if he wouldn't escalate and fight back, he'd run crying to his mamma   classic paxmao

There is nothing to ask about. You may be discovering how high-yield bonds work, but many of us already know.

Ukraine will pay debt and quite a bit of it will be forgiven in exchange for XYZ. I said this many times, there are winners in this war but they are not Ruzzia, Ukraine nor Europe. All thanks to Putin´s "great geostrategic vision" that has made Gazprom loose money for the first time in 20 years, expand NATO faster than ever and burn through the Soviet weapons legacy platforms faster than ever.

But hey, I would not be surprised if Putin had a significant stake in Blackrock funds through some opaque scheme of companies and actually profiting from Ukraine´s debt. He is not going to die for it, the Ruzzian soldiers do.

Overall, Ruzzia is left with more enemies, Putin is probably making more money than ever and if all goes to plan Ukraine will have their independence and perhaps some generations of peace to build a country - likely under the NATO umbrella. Who are the true losers here? The average Ruzzian / Federated citizen and the families of the Ruzzian mercenaries.

Your other comment is stupid, classic daRude. NATO is not for now deploying troops under the NATO structure or mandate because there is no interest nor incentive in that type of escalation. It is much simpler to allow Ruzzia to be as incompetent as they are and self-demilitarise for a few farms and flattened minor cities for which the US has little interest.

The return on investment for the aid to Ukraine is excellent. Please, keep up the military incompetence, it makes the world a safer place.

This below is probably the tiny tiny bit of an iceberg of Putin assets in "the west" that he claims he is fighting.

Billions in assets. Hint: not in Ruzzia


And his brood is said to be living in Switzerland. Give whatever credit you want to this, is not really that relevant.


https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-children-alina-kabaeva-keeps-them-hidden-in-luxury-report-2023-3

Learn what citations are, and do not attribute my citations to me.  

Oh i see, when you read my citations claiming some system doesn't work you assume a 100% failure and thus feel the need to provide evidence of at least one or two that did work to prove them wrong? No that's not how warfare works at all, there's this whole the sword and the shield concept, where efficiency of of some new weapon is limited in time before countermeasures are developed.

In March, Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, told Congress the GPS-guided Excalibur artillery shells "had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine" but that "after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic-warfare systems to counter it."

Patt said at the time that "the peak efficiency of a new weapon system is only about two weeks before countermeasures emerge."

So for example excalibers work in Ukraine, so no need to find videos, but only in 6%. If you feel GMLRS work in Ukraine sure go argue with Pentagon and tell Ukraine to request more of GMLRS instead of some other weapons for the next weapon delivery batch.

High yield? You mean junk-bonds?

The problem is that no one believes that Ukraine can survive for longer than it would take for Russia to "self-demilitarise" as you claim (it's obvious now that China won't allow it and for many other reasons). Thus the outcome is clear, so the options really are either make peace now, or keep fighting "to the last Ukrainian" waste more lives and get worse terms just to get Russia to "self-demilitarise" a tiny bit more. You don't see a conflict of interest here between the interest of the "west" and the Ukrainian people?

[Branko]

However, the military aid is not sent as money (this is what dumBAss does not get), it is spend in the US and European factories and the products are sent to Ukraine.

And, compared to better schools, roads and health insurance, for example, that improves life of average American or European how?

[paxmao]

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Now ask yourself why would BlackRock hire lawyers and be willing to forgive a big chunk of debt just for at least some payments, but right now? Perhaps of the kindness from their pure hearts or ...
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The reason i didn't punch Muhammad Ali is because i was afraid of escalations with him. Otherwise, if he wouldn't escalate and fight back, he'd run crying to his mamma   classic paxmao

There is nothing to ask about. You may be discovering how high-yield bonds work, but many of us already know.

Ukraine will pay debt and quite a bit of it will be forgiven in exchange for XYZ. I said this many times, there are winners in this war but they are not Ruzzia, Ukraine nor Europe. All thanks to Putin´s "great geostrategic vision" that has made Gazprom loose money for the first time in 20 years, expand NATO faster than ever and burn through the Soviet weapons legacy platforms faster than ever.

But hey, I would not be surprised if Putin had a significant stake in Blackrock funds through some opaque scheme of companies and actually profiting from Ukraine´s debt. He is not going to die for it, the Ruzzian soldiers do.

Overall, Ruzzia is left with more enemies, Putin is probably making more money than ever and if all goes to plan Ukraine will have their independence and perhaps some generations of peace to build a country - likely under the NATO umbrella. Who are the true losers here? The average Ruzzian / Federated citizen and the families of the Ruzzian mercenaries.

Your other comment is stupid, classic daRude. NATO is not for now deploying troops under the NATO structure or mandate because there is no interest nor incentive in that type of escalation. It is much simpler to allow Ruzzia to be as incompetent as they are and self-demilitarise for a few farms and flattened minor cities for which the US has little interest.

The return on investment for the aid to Ukraine is excellent. Please, keep up the military incompetence, it makes the world a safer place.

This below is probably the tiny tiny bit of an iceberg of Putin assets in "the west" that he claims he is fighting.

Billions in assets. Hint: not in Ruzzia


And his brood is said to be living in Switzerland. Give whatever credit you want to this, is not really that relevant.


https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-children-alina-kabaeva-keeps-them-hidden-in-luxury-report-2023-3

Learn what citations are, and do not attribute my citations to me.  

Oh i see, when you read my citations claiming some system doesn't work you assume a 100% failure and thus feel the need to provide evidence of at least one or two that did work to prove them wrong? No that's not how warfare works at all, there's this whole the sword and the shield concept, where efficiency of of some new weapon is limited in time before countermeasures are developed.

In March, Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, told Congress the GPS-guided Excalibur artillery shells "had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine" but that "after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic-warfare systems to counter it."

Patt said at the time that "the peak efficiency of a new weapon system is only about two weeks before countermeasures emerge."

So for example excalibers work in Ukraine, so no need to find videos, but only in 6%. If you feel GMLRS work in Ukraine sure go argue with Pentagon and tell Ukraine to request more of GMLRS instead of some other weapons for the next weapon delivery batch.

High yield? You mean junk-bonds?

The problem is that no one believes that Ukraine can survive for longer than it would take for Russia to "self-demilitarise" as you claim (it's obvious now that China won't allow it and for many other reasons). Thus the outcome is clear, so the options really are either make peace now, or keep fighting "to the last Ukrainian" waste more lives and get worse terms just to get Russia to "self-demilitarise" a tiny bit more. You don't see a conflict of interest here between the interest of the "west" and the Ukrainian people?

Obviously you would not lend to Ruzzia at the same rates as Germany nor you would expect re-structuring from Germany .Again, you are not going to enlighten anyone here about credit ratings.

Ukraine is a perfectly viable independent country in economic terms if the war is ended correctly. You know this, Putin knows this and you both want to avoid this outcome at all costs by asking for a surrender while calling it "peace".

Try to be honest for once will you? You were clearly giving credibility to options about the Ukrainian glide bombs and the western weaponry in terms of "not working". Would you like then to retract and say they are not working 100%?

Particularly, what degree of "not working" and the S300 S400 being enough to deal with the western supplied missiles do you claim? And what degree of "not working" do you attribute to the French glide bombs smashing the east bank of the dnipro?

[DaRude]

Obviously you would not lend to Ruzzia at the same rates as Germany nor you would expect re-structuring from Germany .Again, you are not going to enlighten anyone here about credit ratings.

Ukraine is a perfectly viable independent country in economic terms if the war is ended correctly. You know this, Putin knows this and you both want to avoid this outcome at all costs by asking for a surrender while calling it "peace".

Try to be honest for once will you? You were clearly giving credibility to options about the Ukrainian glide bombs and the western weaponry in terms of "not working". Would you like then to retract and say they are not working 100%?

Particularly, what degree of "not working" and the S300 S400 being enough to deal with the western supplied missiles do you claim? And what degree of "not working" do you attribute to the French glide bombs smashing the east bank of the dnipro?

Meh comparing default risks of Germany vs Russia is not interesting, now Russian war bonds vs. Ukrainian war bonds on a free market would be for a far more interesting conversation.

Ukraine was a perfectly viable country in economic terms in 2013, and there was peace and overall prosperity in EU. You know this, and EU knows this, but US decided to change that status quo with some sweet cookies that some naive people fell for and fuck the EU, EU didn't have the balls to stop it so now we're all paying the consequences.


Once again i'm not a military expert to comment on the specifics, i just collect credible reports from multiple sources and report it here. If you have credible reports that claim otherwise, that Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs work amazingly for Ukraine do share them, otherwise unless you reveal yourself as some war general or top military strategist, i'll believe media reports over your opinion. Honestly i don't see what you're so held up on, are you just incapable of admitting that some weapons might not work for Ukraine, is that it? There are no reports that ATACMS don't work (there are other issues with them mainly cost and availability but effectiveness doesn't seem to be one of them), yet there are plenty that GLSDB and Excalibur are not effective. Either provide a more credible source claiming otherwise or stop spreading misinformation with your random opinions and pictures/videos.

Even from some UA source defence-ua.com  

Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB) was supposed to become one of Ukraine's farthest-reaching strike weapons, enabling Ukrainian forces to launch strikes 150 km deep inside russian rear on par with ATACMS missiles. However, in practice GLSDB has shown low effectiveness, as follows from the vague words by William LaPlante, Pentagon's Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, he attributed the poor performance to the electronic warfare factor, as well as this weapon's general application tactics and doctrine.

[paxmao]

Obviously you would not lend to Ruzzia at the same rates as Germany nor you would expect re-structuring from Germany .Again, you are not going to enlighten anyone here about credit ratings.

Ukraine is a perfectly viable independent country in economic terms if the war is ended correctly. You know this, Putin knows this and you both want to avoid this outcome at all costs by asking for a surrender while calling it "peace".

Try to be honest for once will you? You were clearly giving credibility to options about the Ukrainian glide bombs and the western weaponry in terms of "not working". Would you like then to retract and say they are not working 100%?

Particularly, what degree of "not working" and the S300 S400 being enough to deal with the western supplied missiles do you claim? And what degree of "not working" do you attribute to the French glide bombs smashing the east bank of the dnipro?

Meh comparing default risks of Germany vs Russia is not interesting, now Russian war bonds vs. Ukrainian war bonds on a free market would be for a far more interesting conversation.

Ukraine was a perfectly viable country in economic terms in 2013, and there was peace and overall prosperity in EU. You know this, and EU knows this, but US decided to change that status quo with some sweet cookies that some naive people fell for and fuck the EU, EU didn't have the balls to stop it so now we're all paying the consequences.
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Once again i'm not a military expert to comment on the specifics, i just collect credible reports from multiple sources and report it here. If you have credible reports that claim otherwise, that Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs work amazingly for Ukraine do share them, otherwise unless you reveal yourself as some war general or top military strategist, i'll believe media reports over your opinion. Honestly i don't see what you're so held up on, are you just incapable of admitting that some weapons might not work for Ukraine, is that it? There are no reports that ATACMS don't work (there are other issues with them mainly cost and availability but effectiveness doesn't seem to be one of them), yet there are plenty that GLSDB and Excalibur are not effective. Either provide a more credible source claiming otherwise or stop spreading misinformation with your random opinions and pictures/videos.

Even from some UA source defence-ua.com  

Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB) was supposed to become one of Ukraine's farthest-reaching strike weapons, enabling Ukrainian forces to launch strikes 150 km deep inside russian rear on par with ATACMS missiles. However, in practice GLSDB has shown low effectiveness, as follows from the vague words by William LaPlante, Pentagon's Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, he attributed the poor performance to the electronic warfare factor, as well as this weapon's general application tactics and doctrine.

Well, you know, never to late to grow balls. Europe is slow, but is not immobile and the risk of Trump as president - pretty much Putin´s wet dreams made true - is certainly creating the conditions for a nuclear able Germany. It think that Europe could create a programme for, let´s say 1000 strategic warheads, so next time it can talk to Ruzzia with some "backup". I am not sure that Trump understands that if Europe feels undefended the non-proliferation is over.

I am not sure where did they get the idea that a glide bomb can be thrown 150 km behind the front... or maybe I am not reading correctly. It simply does not make sense, ATACAMS have a much larger range... bombs are not really that sensitive to EW... I am not sure where they got all that.

Again, you say you are not an expert, but at the same time you are giving credibility to all the opinions that match your narrative, so I am going to make the question again - the one you do not want to answer: To what degree do you think ATACAMS will "not work" and to what degree do you think glide bombs "do not work".

I think that Ukraine has new weapons and has a proper strategy to use them:
1. Make the war costly for Ruzzia. Attrition in vehicles, people and oil&gas facilities.
2. Start degrading Ruzzian airforce to an unacceptable level.
3.  degrade sufficiently Ruzzian air defence.
4. Keep on destroying the Black Sea fleet to the point that is useless.
5. Prepare for an offensive in 2025 - 26.
6. Obviously, avoid loosing key holds.

[Pidgeon]

Read on the news that Russia is preparing to strike UK assets, have they made it close to Gibraltar or Guernsey or are they taking the other route, crossing the Volga, Urals, the Atlantic and then a surprise attack through Greenland and Ireland right on St Patrick?
That would be really nasty, I would need to prepare and do stuff, I have a netflix subscription I'm going to cancel if they will only show russian movies!



 

[BADecker]

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I think that Ukraine has new weapons and has a proper strategy to use them:
1. Make the war costly for Ruzzia. Attrition in vehicles, people and oil&gas facilities.
2. Start degrading Ruzzian airforce to an unacceptable level.
3.  degrade sufficiently Ruzzian air defence.
4. Keep on destroying the Black Sea fleet to the point that is useless.
5. Prepare for an offensive in 2025 - 26.
6. Obviously, avoid loosing key holds.

Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

[paxmao]

Read on the news that Russia is preparing to strike UK assets, have they made it close to Gibraltar or Guernsey or are they taking the other route, crossing the Volga, Urals, the Atlantic and then a surprise attack through Greenland and Ireland right on St Patrick?
That would be really nasty, I would need to prepare and do stuff, I have a netflix subscription I'm going to cancel if they will only show russian movies!



 

I am not sure what do they mean. UK weapons have already been used in Crimea and according to Putin, Crimea is Ruzzia 

They already killed a guy with Novichok even before the war in UK. Hybrid warfare cuts both ways though. Ruzzia will not claim the attack... an the UK will deny any use of their weapons in Ruzzia I guess.

The interesting thing is that they will need to make sure that it is actually an UK asset, because half of UK is property of the plutocrats an most likely Putin himself. Well, would it not be super to give the UK a excuse to re-posses part of Putin´s assets as war reparations?

Hey, look, another Ukrainian glide bomb "not working"

https://t.me/officer_alex33/2745

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Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

There is not a single sentence in there that is remotely true.

[BADecker]

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Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

There is not a single sentence in there that is remotely true.

You shmart. You didn't have to type so much. You only had one sentence that is not true. Lol.

[Branko]

Meanwhile, Ukraine is recruiting new volunteers

https://t.me/vicktop55/24363

[paxmao]

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Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

There is not a single sentence in there that is remotely true.

You shmart. You didn't have to type so much. You only had one sentence that is not true. Lol.

You make my answers very easy dumBAss thank you. Something you have to understand is that if you make a claim it is on you to provide some logic or support to it, not on others to debunk every little part of your parallel universe. Hint: "freedomphoenix" is unlikely to be taken seriously by most people here. Or anywere. Is more like... the joke of internet or the humour pages of a porn magazine.

Let me put an example for you: It seems that ATACAMS "did not work" in the fuel stores in Luhansk today. (See, that is just me sayin)

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/likely-ukrainian-strike-oil-depot-221900321.html

See? That is me citing a source that is reasonably credible and modest in their assumptions.

Ukrainian forces carried out an attack on an oil depot located in occupied Luhansk on May 7, according to Leonid Pasechnik, the Moscow-appointed leader of the so-called “Luhansk People’s Republic.”

And now I quote a declaration by a Ruzzian source that is easy for anyone to verify, as it is an official statement.

Moving on now to some pictures that could potentially be verified:





Plus a video, just for you dumBAss:

https://t.me/newsgrpua/99910?single

See dumBAss, this is how people may have a good degree of confidence in what you say has happened.