Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Poor paxmao, top EU official just admit USA is calling shots about Ukraine
and EU absolutely has no saying, despite Ukraine been in Europe. Now
that Trump won, he can speak freely, and this is what he said:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1855804917103124893

[DaRude]

Poor paxmao, still tryin'

Because of people like him, this deal was destroyed

[link to known propagandist removed]

And there you go, step 2 attack the messenger. It was about time guys, you are loosing you sharpness.. I mean the little sharpness left. BTW I would not call myself poor Paxmao, but suit yourself. And while you argue about it, drones have closed Moscow airport and hit a few buildings here and there. I seems only logical after the Iranian Shaheds  hitting over and over. I would expect to see more of this before the "negotiations".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/10/ukraine-russia-drone-attacks-moscow-war

Who would have thought... the all mighty Ruzzia systems cannot even stop ancient technology from hitting their capital. Not good for sales.

Crying propaganda just not to address the substance. What will you say of this source? https://www.gcsp.ch/digital-hub/breaking-stalemate-find-peace-russia-ukraine-war-geneva-security-debate

Do you think people that are still pushing to mobilize women and lowering mobilization age for men in Ukraine will later cope by arguing that they were just messengers too?

And just how exactly would an argument from a theoretical evil person that wants to sacrifice Ukraine and get them to fight to the last Ukrainian sound different?

[cpu6502]

Trump will want Ukraine and Russia to be quickly done and dusted so he can move onto other election promises. But I think he's wading into a conflict he has little understanding of.

I mean what will Trump do if Ukraine and Russia both reject the "peace" deal?
Ukraine won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want back what was stolen.
Russia won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want all of Ukraine and the current government removed.

What will Trump do then do you think? I really don't know.

I guess stopping the war is kinda easy sort of.
But keeping it stopped is a totally different beast altogether; that's the hard part.

[paxmao]

Poor paxmao, top EU official just admit USA is calling shots about Ukraine
and EU absolutely has no saying, despite Ukraine been in Europe. Now
that Trump won, he can speak freely, and this is what he said:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1855804917103124893

Branko, you are going to get an indigestion picking so many red cherries.

I must have said 100 times that there are winners in this war but Ruzzia, Ukraine, Europe are not among them. Do you need more hints?

Europe is bracing for something more important than blabbler. Trump is as usual a factor of uncertainty, mostly because he is probably not that very certain on how he intends to do things.

It is of course normal that the US calls the shots, that is nothing new, however you appraisal of Europe not having a say is unrealistic. At the moment there is a deal that allows a great influence of the US in Europe and that is fine. However, it is not the only possible deal and if the US behaves erratically Europe will take matters into it's own hands. This applies to self-defence, military brute power, military technology and international diplomacy. If something has been proven constant in history is adaptation.

Trumps attitude may be actually what Europe needs to wake up from the dream of being peaceful in a world at war. Unfortunately we will change the peace dividend for the weapons dividend. On regards to the US, well, I am not sure Trump understands the difference between an ally and a serf, but he is about to find out if plans for tariffs are kept.

Here have a present for you:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28jd0114ro

Guess.... is this Kiev or Moscow... difficult to know nowadays..

Poor paxmao, still tryin'

Because of people like him, this deal was destroyed

[link to known propagandist removed]

And there you go, step 2 attack the messenger. It was about time guys, you are loosing you sharpness.. I mean the little sharpness left. BTW I would not call myself poor Paxmao, but suit yourself. And while you argue about it, drones have closed Moscow airport and hit a few buildings here and there. I seems only logical after the Iranian Shaheds  hitting over and over. I would expect to see more of this before the "negotiations".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/10/ukraine-russia-drone-attacks-moscow-war

Who would have thought... the all mighty Ruzzia systems cannot even stop ancient technology from hitting their capital. Not good for sales.

Crying propaganda just not to address the substance. What will you say of this source? https://www.gcsp.ch/digital-hub/breaking-stalemate-find-peace-russia-ukraine-war-geneva-security-debate

Do you think people that are still pushing to mobilize women and lowering mobilization age for men in Ukraine will later cope by arguing that they were just messengers too?

And just how exactly would an argument from a theoretical evil person that wants to sacrifice Ukraine and get them to fight to the last Ukrainian sound different?

The core issue is not the core issue you decide is the core issue. There are far more important events that actually affect the war:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-moves-reassure-ukraine-unwavering-support-after-trump-win-2024-11-09/

Time for Europe to stop being a child and grow into a man. If Germany has to get nukes... so be it. If a nuclear programme is required in Europe, no reason to wait 'till tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K2BPkj0yw

To be honest, Europe may actually support Ukraine properly and not a lukewarm support like the US has shown until now. For the US is absolutely of to f*ck Ruzzia, f*ck the EU and fu*ck any other affected country, to not have a proper victory plan and let Ruzzia loose billions in oil facilities, drawn on the thousands of military equipment in storage and let Ruzzia bleed against Ukraine. Europe may have a much more practical approach - and even better for Ruzzia probably in the long term.

[DaRude]

Trump will want Ukraine and Russia to be quickly done and dusted so he can move onto other election promises. But I think he's wading into a conflict he has little understanding of.

I mean what will Trump do if Ukraine and Russia both reject the "peace" deal?
Ukraine won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want back what was stolen.
Russia won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want all of Ukraine and the current government removed.

What will Trump do then do you think? I really don't know.

I guess stopping the war is kinda easy sort of.
But keeping it stopped is a totally different beast altogether; that's the hard part.

Trump sees China as its biggest risk. As such his priority would be to drive Russia as far away from China as possible.

You're still thinking of this as if Ukraine has any choice in any of this. Wars are expensive, and stopping one is easy. No money = no war. Look up what happened last time Ukrainian aid package made it through US congress. They're trying to rush the remainder of that aid out to Ukraine now, but there's only enough for Ukraine to last few more months after that...? Now consider that republicans got both chambers, and the position of speaker of the house, VP's and president on Ukraine. And now ask yourself if the next aid package will be approved, if so how long will Ukraine have to wait this time without aid, and will it be less same or more than the last one (we all see how much progress Ukraine was able to achieve with the current rate of aid).

Now there are really only two options for Ukrainian propagandists:
1-Despite what going on in the real world, just blindly claim that Trump for some reason will start sending even more money to Ukraine than Biden
2-Calim that Europe (with economic crisis and collapsed government in Germany) will somehow magically send more more aid to UA, that will compensate for US aid.

Everyone in US and EU will find these laughable, but the targeted audience for this would be UA population to keep their morale from completely collapsing.

As usual, simply just follow the money and not the lips.

[cpu6502]

Trump will want Ukraine and Russia to be quickly done and dusted so he can move onto other election promises. But I think he's wading into a conflict he has little understanding of.

I mean what will Trump do if Ukraine and Russia both reject the "peace" deal?
Ukraine won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want back what was stolen.
Russia won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want all of Ukraine and the current government removed.

What will Trump do then do you think? I really don't know.

I guess stopping the war is kinda easy sort of.
But keeping it stopped is a totally different beast altogether; that's the hard part.

Trump sees China as its biggest risk. As such his priority would be to drive Russia as far away from China as possible.

You're still thinking of this as if Ukraine has any choice in any of this. Wars are expensive, and stopping one is easy. No money = no war. Look up what happened last time Ukrainian aid package made it through US congress. They're trying to rush the remainder of that aid out to Ukraine now, but there's only enough for Ukraine to last few more months after that...? Now consider that republicans got both chambers, and the position of speaker of the house, VP's and president on Ukraine. And now ask yourself if the next aid package will be approved, if so how long will Ukraine have to wait this time without aid, and will it be less same or more than the last one (we all see how much progress Ukraine was able to achieve with the current rate of aid).

This didn't address my question.

What you suggest is a way to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. That makes sense.
Trump could threaten to increase aid to Ukraine to get Russia to the table. That makes sense too.

But what happens if they can't agree? That's my question.
If Trump reduces aid to Ukraine, it emboldens China (and others), increasing the risk to US from China. The very thing you said his priority was to avoid.
If Trump increases aid to Ukraine, according to this forum thread, that will drag out the war. Trumps breaks an election promise of a quick resolve.
If Trump does nothing it's an election promise broken and China emboldened.

You see it easy to come up with simple answers to complicated problems when you're a presidential candidate with no responsibility. But Trump won, and when he takes office it will be his responsibility; simple answers to complicated problems are then not useful.

[Branko]

Poor paxmao, top EU official just admit USA is calling shots about Ukraine
and EU absolutely has no saying, despite Ukraine been in Europe. Now
that Trump won, he can speak freely, and this is what he said:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1855804917103124893

Branko, you are going to get an indigestion picking so many red cherries.

*propaganda removed*

EU officials are been silent because they're AFRAID...now, how come? In your world everyone is afraid of Russia, not USA
Maybe Gladio is still alive, after all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgian-pm-says-eu-official-made-horrific-threat/ar-BB1mW6hA

[DaRude]

Trump will want Ukraine and Russia to be quickly done and dusted so he can move onto other election promises. But I think he's wading into a conflict he has little understanding of.

I mean what will Trump do if Ukraine and Russia both reject the "peace" deal?
Ukraine won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want back what was stolen.
Russia won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want all of Ukraine and the current government removed.

What will Trump do then do you think? I really don't know.

I guess stopping the war is kinda easy sort of.
But keeping it stopped is a totally different beast altogether; that's the hard part.

Trump sees China as its biggest risk. As such his priority would be to drive Russia as far away from China as possible.

You're still thinking of this as if Ukraine has any choice in any of this. Wars are expensive, and stopping one is easy. No money = no war. Look up what happened last time Ukrainian aid package made it through US congress. They're trying to rush the remainder of that aid out to Ukraine now, but there's only enough for Ukraine to last few more months after that...? Now consider that republicans got both chambers, and the position of speaker of the house, VP's and president on Ukraine. And now ask yourself if the next aid package will be approved, if so how long will Ukraine have to wait this time without aid, and will it be less same or more than the last one (we all see how much progress Ukraine was able to achieve with the current rate of aid).

This didn't address my question.

What you suggest is a way to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. That makes sense.
Trump could threaten to increase aid to Ukraine to get Russia to the table. That makes sense too.

But what happens if they can't agree? That's my question.
If Trump reduces aid to Ukraine, it emboldens China (and others), increasing the risk to US from China. The very thing you said his priority was to avoid.
If Trump increases aid to Ukraine, according to this forum thread, that will drag out the war. Trumps breaks an election promise of a quick resolve.
If Trump does nothing it's an election promise broken and China emboldened.

You see it easy to come up with simple answers to complicated problems when you're a presidential candidate with no responsibility. But Trump won, and when he takes office it will be his responsibility; simple answers to complicated problems are then not useful.

In wars no one cares about what you want it's what you can get.

Support for sending money to Ukraine is eroding, it's uneven and much lower with republicans than democrats. Discussing what if Trump decides to ignore his party, break his promise and send even more money to the person he blames for starting war and called the greatest salesman on Earth" for having solicited and received billions of dollars of U.S. military aid, is like discussing what if Martians show up and start helping Ukraine. Let's keep the discussion to what is plausible.

This is what Donald Trump Jr tweeted just today:


Money is running out for Ukraine and everyone at the negotiation table knows it, and all outcomes must be based on this. In politics there's not always a good option available. Most of the time you have to compromise between bad and worse, and on top of that the bad/worse positions often flip between short and long terms.

Also, Ukraine has issues with manpower, North Koreans is sending some troops to Russia, even if Trump could send more money to Ukraine what do you think it would achieve?

So no, Trump will not increase aid to Ukraine and EU cannot compensate that. Zelenskiy would step down, get a cozy spot in US, and let his team negotiate the terms. In a hypothetical where he just goes mad and refuses to accept reality, his generals would find a way to force him one way or the other (as history shows).

[BADecker]

Not to distract from the above two posts, but here is Trump talking to Putin.


Trump Speaks on the Phone With Russia’s Putin, Advises Him Not To Escalate Conflict in Ukraine


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/trump-speaks-phone-russias-putin-advises-him-not/
After President-Elect Donald J. Trump spoke on the phone with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday (6), in a call with the participation of tech billionaire and new ally Elon Musk, the expectation was on as to a call with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

And today (10) reports arose that Trump has already spoken to Putin on Thursday (7) and took the opportunity to discussed the war in Ukraine, according to the Washington Post (behind a paywall).

Reuters reported:

"Trump advised Putin not to escalate the war in Ukraine and reminded him of 'Washington's sizeable military presence in Europe', the Post reported.

During the election campaign, Trump said he would find a solution to end the war 'within a day', but did not explain how he would do so."

Other sources say the two leaders also discussed peace on the European continent, as and discussed a further call soon in which they'd look into the resolution of the war in Ukraine.

One day later Friday, the Kremlin said Putin was 'ready to discuss Ukraine with Trump' but that this fact did not mean that Putin would alter Moscow's demands.

"On June 14, Putin set out his terms for an end to the war: Ukraine would have to drop its NATO ambitions and withdraw all of its troops from all of the territory of four regions claimed by Russia."

This enumeration of demands by the Reuters report is not wrong, but incomplete. There's also the question of the denazification of Kiev's regime, the demilitarization of Ukraine and the protection of the rights of the Russian-speaking population.

Ukraine rejected those demands, saying it would be capitulation.

Sky News reported:

"A Ukrainian foreign ministry spokesman has said that Kyiv was not offered any advanced notice of a reported call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin."
...

[paxmao]

Poor paxmao, top EU official just admit USA is calling shots about Ukraine
and EU absolutely has no saying, despite Ukraine been in Europe. Now
that Trump won, he can speak freely, and this is what he said:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1855804917103124893

Branko, you are going to get an indigestion picking so many red cherries.

*propaganda removed*

EU officials are been silent because they're AFRAID...now, how come? In your world everyone is afraid of Russia, not USA
Maybe Gladio is still alive, after all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgian-pm-says-eu-official-made-horrific-threat/ar-BB1mW6hA

Silent silent silent...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/9/eu-borrell-unwavering-support-ukraine-donald-trumps-win

9 Nov 2024
The European Union’s foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has pledged “unwavering” support for Ukraine, on his first visit to Kyiv after Donald Trump’s US presidential win.

Trump’s victory in the United States election has caused concern in Ukraine and Europe that the volatile Republican could end Washington’s support for Kyiv’s fight against Russia’s invasion.

The EU is past the stage of "OMG" and has spent months going over how to deal with the different possible situations that may emanate from Trumps winning in the US. Whatever Trump does the hope of an Ukraine left without support is mostly hopium.

Nope, Europe understand the concept of survival just as much as any other regions that has lost millions of men in the last 2 WW. Germany however needs to short out the government as soon as possible. In the long term, the EU has clearly understood that the price for US support may be more than simply having a proper army. Watch this space along the next 5 years, altough the capability build-up has already started thanks to Putin.

Note that if Trump wants to shut the war down really fast, all he has to do is see to it that the US sends $200-billion to Russia. [Video included at the site.]

Vlad Putin: “We Are Ready to Speak with Trump – His Behavior When There Was an Attempt on His Life, I Was Impressed

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-there-was-no-putin-trump-call-2024-11-11/

Kremlin says reports that Trump and Putin spoke in recent days are 'pure fiction'

That is the problem when two compulsive liers meet uh?

[...]

What you suggest is a way to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. That makes sense.
Trump could threaten to increase aid to Ukraine to get Russia to the table. That makes sense too.
[...]

Trump is a wildcard, the permanent system risk for everyone  ,,, where there is risk, there is opportunity.

[DaRude]

Poor paxmao, top EU official just admit USA is calling shots about Ukraine
and EU absolutely has no saying, despite Ukraine been in Europe. Now
that Trump won, he can speak freely, and this is what he said:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1855804917103124893

Branko, you are going to get an indigestion picking so many red cherries.

*propaganda removed*

EU officials are been silent because they're AFRAID...now, how come? In your world everyone is afraid of Russia, not USA
Maybe Gladio is still alive, after all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgian-pm-says-eu-official-made-horrific-threat/ar-BB1mW6hA

Silent silent silent...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/9/eu-borrell-unwavering-support-ukraine-donald-trumps-win

9 Nov 2024
The European Union’s foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has pledged “unwavering” support for Ukraine, on his first visit to Kyiv after Donald Trump’s US presidential win.

Trump’s victory in the United States election has caused concern in Ukraine and Europe that the volatile Republican could end Washington’s support for Kyiv’s fight against Russia’s invasion.

The EU is past the stage of "OMG" and has spent months going over how to deal with the different possible situations that may emanate from Trumps winning in the US. Whatever Trump does the hope of an Ukraine left without support is mostly hopium.

Nope, Europe understand the concept of survival just as much as any other regions that has lost millions of men in the last 2 WW. Germany however needs to short out the government as soon as possible. In the long term, the EU has clearly understood that the price for US support may be more than simply having a proper army. Watch this space along the next 5 years, altough the capability build-up has already started thanks to Putin.

Note that if Trump wants to shut the war down really fast, all he has to do is see to it that the US sends $200-billion to Russia. [Video included at the site.]

Vlad Putin: “We Are Ready to Speak with Trump – His Behavior When There Was an Attempt on His Life, I Was Impressed

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-there-was-no-putin-trump-call-2024-11-11/

Kremlin says reports that Trump and Putin spoke in recent days are 'pure fiction'

That is the problem when two compulsive liers meet uh?

[...]

What you suggest is a way to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. That makes sense.
Trump could threaten to increase aid to Ukraine to get Russia to the table. That makes sense too.
[...]

Go on, please, keep on predicting what Trump is going to do, do not deprive me of the pleasure of quoting you in a couple of months.

You misattributed cpu6502's quote to me. Fix it!

“The clear purpose of this visit is to express European Union support to Ukraine – this support remains unwavering,” Borrell, who is set to leave office next month, told journalists in Kyiv on Saturday.

  you can also pull some quotes from Nuland, Boris and Biden they'd be just as relevant to keep Ukraine's morale up a tiny bit longer

[cpu6502]

Trump will want Ukraine and Russia to be quickly done and dusted so he can move onto other election promises. But I think he's wading into a conflict he has little understanding of.

I mean what will Trump do if Ukraine and Russia both reject the "peace" deal?
Ukraine won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want back what was stolen.
Russia won't be happy with battle lines frozen because they want all of Ukraine and the current government removed.

What will Trump do then do you think? I really don't know.

I guess stopping the war is kinda easy sort of.
But keeping it stopped is a totally different beast altogether; that's the hard part.

Trump sees China as its biggest risk. As such his priority would be to drive Russia as far away from China as possible.

You're still thinking of this as if Ukraine has any choice in any of this. Wars are expensive, and stopping one is easy. No money = no war. Look up what happened last time Ukrainian aid package made it through US congress. They're trying to rush the remainder of that aid out to Ukraine now, but there's only enough for Ukraine to last few more months after that...? Now consider that republicans got both chambers, and the position of speaker of the house, VP's and president on Ukraine. And now ask yourself if the next aid package will be approved, if so how long will Ukraine have to wait this time without aid, and will it be less same or more than the last one (we all see how much progress Ukraine was able to achieve with the current rate of aid).

This didn't address my question.

What you suggest is a way to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. That makes sense.
Trump could threaten to increase aid to Ukraine to get Russia to the table. That makes sense too.

But what happens if they can't agree? That's my question.
If Trump reduces aid to Ukraine, it emboldens China (and others), increasing the risk to US from China. The very thing you said his priority was to avoid.
If Trump increases aid to Ukraine, according to this forum thread, that will drag out the war. Trumps breaks an election promise of a quick resolve.
If Trump does nothing it's an election promise broken and China emboldened.

You see it easy to come up with simple answers to complicated problems when you're a presidential candidate with no responsibility. But Trump won, and when he takes office it will be his responsibility; simple answers to complicated problems are then not useful.

In wars no one cares about what you want it's what you can get.

Support for sending money to Ukraine is eroding, it's uneven and much lower with republicans than democrats. Discussing what if Trump decides to ignore his party, break his promise and send even more money to the person he blames for starting war and called the greatest salesman on Earth" for having solicited and received billions of dollars of U.S. military aid, is like discussing what if Martians show up and start helping Ukraine. Let's keep the discussion to what is plausible.

Money is running out for Ukraine and everyone at the negotiation table knows it, and all outcomes must be based on this. In politics there's not always a good option available. Most of the time you have to compromise between bad and worse, and on top of that the bad/worse positions often flip between short and long terms.

Also, Ukraine has issues with manpower, North Koreans is sending some troops to Russia, even if Trump could send more money to Ukraine what do you think it would achieve?

So no, Trump will not increase aid to Ukraine and EU cannot compensate that. Zelenskiy would step down, get a cozy spot in US, and let his team negotiate the terms. In a hypothetical where he just goes mad and refuses to accept reality, his generals would find a way to force him one way or the other (as history shows).

You picked the "If Trump reduces aid to Ukraine, it emboldens China (and others), increasing the risk to US from China. The very thing you said his priority was to avoid." option (I think). That's okay, just asking peoples opinion that's all.
Myself, I don't know the answer.

[Branko]

[link to known propagandist removed]

BTW, man is an Ukrainian and professor in Canada...fact that you choose (like Boris Johnson) to
label everyone seeking for peaceful solution as propagandist or traitor speaks volumes about
you as a person...some people like you at least took gun and went to help instead of
promoting violence on web from safety

[ManOftheWorld]

Trump will punish Putin, you'll see. And he will have a good dialogue and partnership with Zelensky.

[Branko]

Trump will punish Putin, you'll see. And he will have a good dialogue and partnership with Zelensky.

I bet even Trump have no idea what will Trump do

[paxmao]

Interesting news... the crisis in China is now full blown, which means lower oil demand. I wonder what countries could be very oil export dependant, are selling to China in a large percent and have a war ongoing that they would need to finance. Which countries could be I wonder? Trump is very likely to impose tariffs. I wonder what is going to happen to global growth and price of oil in that scenario? I wonder which country could be selling for less while having to pay for more?

BTW now that the US elections have finished, the band on destroying oil facilities is lifted. I wonder which country is at war, cannot defend it's skies and has many, many oil facilities...?

[cpu6502]

Note that if Trump wants to shut the war down really fast, all he has to do is see to it that the US sends $200-billion to Russia. [Video included at the site.]

Vlad Putin: “We Are Ready to Speak with Trump – His Behavior When There Was an Attempt on His Life, I Was Impressed

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-there-was-no-putin-trump-call-2024-11-11/

Kremlin says reports that Trump and Putin spoke in recent days are 'pure fiction'

That is the problem when two compulsive liers meet uh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEOo1fqUCI
Seem the phone call did take place, but Putin is not interested in Trump's peace plan ideas.

“Donald Trump is realising how complicated this is going to be.”
Donald Trump’s reported call to Vladimir Putin backfires as the Russian leader “signals a willingness not to move on this issue”, says Julia Manchester, reporter in Washington DC for The Hill.

So what happens in the situation if Ukraine plays ball and sits at the negotiating table and Russia doesn't?

[paxmao]

Note that if Trump wants to shut the war down really fast, all he has to do is see to it that the US sends $200-billion to Russia. [Video included at the site.]

Vlad Putin: “We Are Ready to Speak with Trump – His Behavior When There Was an Attempt on His Life, I Was Impressed

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-there-was-no-putin-trump-call-2024-11-11/

Kremlin says reports that Trump and Putin spoke in recent days are 'pure fiction'

That is the problem when two compulsive liers meet uh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEOo1fqUCI
Seem the phone call did take place, but Putin is not interested in Trump's peace plan ideas.

“Donald Trump is realising how complicated this is going to be.”
Donald Trump’s reported call to Vladimir Putin backfires as the Russian leader “signals a willingness not to move on this issue”, says Julia Manchester, reporter in Washington DC for The Hill.

So what happens in the situation if Ukraine plays ball and sits at the negotiating table and Russia doesn't?

Well, if Putin was going to take Ukraine in three days and it seems that he has reached around 10% in three years, my guess is that Trump will reach peace in around...two years or so? 

When you make a stupid promise like Trump either you are stupid or you are not and know you will not deliver. Alternative C is that he know something we do not. The way to end the war is conceed a lot but also threaten with providing real and decisive support to Ukraine. Trump is usually about carrot and stick, it is the way he has done shady family business all his life.

[be.open]

Interesting news... the crisis in China is now full blown, which means lower oil demand. I wonder what countries could be very oil export dependant, are selling to China in a large percent and have a war ongoing that they would need to finance. Which countries could be I wonder? Trump is very likely to impose tariffs. I wonder what is going to happen to global growth and price of oil in that scenario? I wonder which country could be selling for less while having to pay for more?

BTW now that the US elections have finished, the band on destroying oil facilities is lifted. I wonder which country is at war, cannot defend it's skies and has many, many oil facilities...?

Dictator’s reliable rear: Russian economy at the time of war

Its general conclusion is that Russia has been able to withstand the blow caused by the Western sanctions due to a combination of factors, including its well developed market economy, its indispensable position as a supplier of primary commodities to the global market, highly professional responses by its government officials, and the West’s inability to isolate Russia on the international stage.

[paxmao]

Interesting news... the crisis in China is now full blown, which means lower oil demand. I wonder what countries could be very oil export dependant, are selling to China in a large percent and have a war ongoing that they would need to finance. Which countries could be I wonder? Trump is very likely to impose tariffs. I wonder what is going to happen to global growth and price of oil in that scenario? I wonder which country could be selling for less while having to pay for more?

BTW now that the US elections have finished, the band on destroying oil facilities is lifted. I wonder which country is at war, cannot defend it's skies and has many, many oil facilities...?

Dictator’s reliable rear: Russian economy at the time of war

Its general conclusion is that Russia has been able to withstand the blow caused by the Western sanctions due to a combination of factors, including its well developed market economy, its indispensable position as a supplier of primary commodities to the global market, highly professional responses by its government officials, and the West’s inability to isolate Russia on the international stage.

Translation: While the price of crude is above 50 a barrel, Ruzzia can keep going (burning through stored war material) for a while.

That is the truth about petro-states, even Saudi Arabia has sometimes difficulties balancing the budget and paying bonds when the oil price goes down. The Biden administration until now has prevented the worst types of strikes on oil production, but there is now no reason not to hit the oil exporting facilities, Ukraine has sufficient technology to achieve roughly 1500 km range and since Ruzzia decided to destroy the electrical infrastructure of Ukraine, there is no reason to contain or de-escalate.

This is March

https://www.ft.com/content/98f15b60-bc4d-4d3c-9e57-cbdde122ac0c

The US has urged Ukraine to halt attacks on Russia’s energy infrastructure, warning that the drone strikes risk driving up global oil prices and provoking retaliation, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

But we are in November and since Trump will "end the war in 24 hours", it is better to hurry ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6aDtShxNt4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6n_AWrMByk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDwpQtOnF5U

Karma is a bitch.