Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Funny, but it seems lack of wealthy Russians hurts...UK 

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/millionaires-leaving-uk-jewellers-estate-agents-mp70ck9r8

Rats leaving sinking ship

[BADecker]

See who is winning the war - https://liveuamap.com/en

[BADecker]

See some of the help Russia is getting to win the war, and other wars - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-iran-sign-20-year-defense-energy-pact-three-days-trump-inauguration

[paxmao]

It would seem to me that the UK is looking for new more reliable and less bullying partners. There is plenty to be developed at Ukraine and has plenty of people who can be potentially rich in the future and will need some bankers to help them keep those assets. I am thinking that Frankfurt needs to step up if they intend to catch the City.

The UK will provide Ukraine with annual military assistance of no less than £3 billion a year until 2030/31 and for as long as needed to support Ukraine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration#:~:text=The%20UK%20will%20support%20Ukraine%20in%20advancement%20of%20human%20security,civilian%2C%20security%20and%20defence%20sectors.

Pursuant to Article 11, paragraph 3, of the One Hundred Year Partnership Agreement signed on 16 January 2025 between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Ukraine, both sides have reached the following understandings:

We will pursue rapid, innovative, and sustainable production at scale, including joint production, in particular developing advanced weapons and ammunition manufacturing capabilities.

Ukraine can be the weapons manufacturer that Europe needs to become independent from the US.

[BADecker]

It would seem to me that the UK is looking for new more reliable and less bullying partners. There is plenty to be developed at Ukraine and has plenty of people who can be potentially rich in the future and will need some bankers to help them keep those assets. I am thinking that Frankfurt needs to step up if they intend to catch the City.

The UK will provide Ukraine with annual military assistance of no less than £3 billion a year until 2030/31 and for as long as needed to support Ukraine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration#:~:text=The%20UK%20will%20support%20Ukraine%20in%20advancement%20of%20human%20security,civilian%2C%20security%20and%20defence%20sectors.

Pursuant to Article 11, paragraph 3, of the One Hundred Year Partnership Agreement signed on 16 January 2025 between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Ukraine, both sides have reached the following understandings:

We will pursue rapid, innovative, and sustainable production at scale, including joint production, in particular developing advanced weapons and ammunition manufacturing capabilities.

Ukraine can be the weapons manufacturer that Europe needs to become independent from the US.

If that is really what NATO wants, let them do the obvious that has been there all along. Forget stupid Ukraine. Drop connections with the US. Become a Russian nation-state. Nation-state... not really the right word for it. Rather, a NATO with Russia rather than the US.

You keep on playing games rather than suggesting the obvious that makes sense. Russia would be a good partner, is ready and willing, and far freer than the USA. Then, it would only be a technicality moving Ukraine into NATO.

[Soft Crem]

It would seem to me that the UK is looking for new more reliable and less bullying partners. There is plenty to be developed at Ukraine and has plenty of people who can be potentially rich in the future and will need some bankers to help them keep those assets. I am thinking that Frankfurt needs to step up if they intend to catch the City.

The UK will provide Ukraine with annual military assistance of no less than £3 billion a year until 2030/31 and for as long as needed to support Ukraine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration#:~:text=The%20UK%20will%20support%20Ukraine%20in%20advancement%20of%20human%20security,civilian%2C%20security%20and%20defence%20sectors.

Pursuant to Article 11, paragraph 3, of the One Hundred Year Partnership Agreement signed on 16 January 2025 between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Ukraine, both sides have reached the following understandings:

We will pursue rapid, innovative, and sustainable production at scale, including joint production, in particular developing advanced weapons and ammunition manufacturing capabilities.

Ukraine can be the weapons manufacturer that Europe needs to become independent from the US.

If that is really what NATO wants, let them do the obvious that has been there all along. Forget stupid Ukraine. Drop connections with the US. Become a Russian nation-state. Nation-state... not really the right word for it. Rather, a NATO with Russia rather than the US.

You keep on playing games rather than suggesting the obvious that makes sense. Russia would be a good partner, is ready and willing, and far freer than the USA. Then, it would only be a technicality moving Ukraine into NATO.

I personally think that Ukraine should become part of Russia.  Because Russia is destroying cities one after another, many people are dying and houses are being damaged.  On the other hand, a third world war has become a possibility.

[BADecker]

It would seem to me that the UK is looking for new more reliable and less bullying partners. There is plenty to be developed at Ukraine and has plenty of people who can be potentially rich in the future and will need some bankers to help them keep those assets. I am thinking that Frankfurt needs to step up if they intend to catch the City.

The UK will provide Ukraine with annual military assistance of no less than £3 billion a year until 2030/31 and for as long as needed to support Ukraine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration/uk-ukraine-100-year-partnership-declaration#:~:text=The%20UK%20will%20support%20Ukraine%20in%20advancement%20of%20human%20security,civilian%2C%20security%20and%20defence%20sectors.

Pursuant to Article 11, paragraph 3, of the One Hundred Year Partnership Agreement signed on 16 January 2025 between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Ukraine, both sides have reached the following understandings:

We will pursue rapid, innovative, and sustainable production at scale, including joint production, in particular developing advanced weapons and ammunition manufacturing capabilities.

Ukraine can be the weapons manufacturer that Europe needs to become independent from the US.

If that is really what NATO wants, let them do the obvious that has been there all along. Forget stupid Ukraine. Drop connections with the US. Become a Russian nation-state. Nation-state... not really the right word for it. Rather, a NATO with Russia rather than the US.

You keep on playing games rather than suggesting the obvious that makes sense. Russia would be a good partner, is ready and willing, and far freer than the USA. Then, it would only be a technicality moving Ukraine into NATO.

I personally think that Ukraine should become part of Russia.  Because Russia is destroying cities one after another, many people are dying and houses are being damaged.  On the other hand, a third world war has become a possibility.

But Russia would never have attacked in 2022 if Ukraine had not been attacking into Russia through the Donetsk and Donbass areas since 2014 and before. As it is, the war would have been over any time if Zelensky had decided to not sacrifice all those Ukrainians.

We saw the Russian Oreshnik missile. If Russia were aggressive, they would simply take Ukraine... and then all of NATO/Europe.

[tvbcof]

I personally think that Ukraine should become part of Russia.  Because Russia is destroying cities one after another, many people are dying and houses are being damaged.  On the other hand, a third world war has become a possibility.

Let the Ukrainians (and former 'Ukrainians' in the disputed regions) decide.

The people who were given a chance to vote voted overwhelmingly to be part of the Russian Federation.  This is not a surprise as Ukro-merican policy subsequent to the 2014 color revolution which ousted the elected leader was to brutalize the Russian speaking people in the East to the point where Russia had no realistic choice but to put an end to it.

The aforementioned strategy was devised by the U.S. contract think-tank RAND as I understand things.  Putin bent over backwards not to bite, but eventually had no choice just as RAND's analysis predicted.

[paxmao]

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Gas storage and transition were off limits while gas flowed through Ukraine, now Ukraine decided to change the rules, good thing those storage facilities are deep under ground and cannot be easily blown up by some drone  

[...]

It tends to happen that when someone will loose using your rules, they will decide that the rules are other. Example: Ruzzia can use Iranian Sahed, but Ukraine cannot use missiles inside Ruzzia. Since that makes Ukraine lose, the rule is now: you hit our cities and energy infrastructure, we hit your refineries and airbases with anything we have. No brainer here.

 So yes, Ukraine has the right to decide what goes or does not go past Ukraine. It is not really a "new" rule and hey, you should be very happy as it was Ruzzia who wanted to cut the gas to "freeze Europe".

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Ukraine has EU's largest gas storage facility, it consists of 12 main storage facilities holding about 32.5bcm (out of about 100bcm for all of EU), all build in the Soviet era, meaning Russia knows exact details of all 12 of them. Any theories why Russia is holding back and doesn't take out a third of EU's gas storage capacity?

[...]

Yes I have a theory They do have gas storage facilities - I am guessing if you count the undeground storage, basically putting the gas back into the ground if you need to.

A completely different thing is where the gas is actually stored. That may give you a clue of why Europe did not "freeze" and has no problems with gas supplies nor is going to have them.

But now that you mention other news....

So what does Trump say about this... I think he is going full Mexican Cartel on Ruzzia... "Mi plata of mi plomo"... something like "take my silver or take my plumb (bullet)".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4q7v7ez1o

Trump tells Putin to end 'ridiculous war' in Ukraine or face new sanctions

Writing on his social media platform Truth Social, he said that by pushing to settle the war he was doing Russia and its president a "very big favour".

I agree, Putin has run out of options to "double down" and escalate and the Ruzzia economy is about to collapse. Of course we must all understands that "big favours" call for "big thank you"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/15/marco-rubio-committee-hearing-trump

Rubio says both Russia and Ukraine must make concessions to end war

https://kyivindependent.com/it-needs-to-end-state-secretary-marco-rubios-position-on-russias-war-against-ukraine/

"We are going to engage in making it (the war) end in a way that is sustainable, meaning we don't just want the conflict to end and then restart in two, three, or four years down the road,"

I am going to freely translate this into the following: Rubio thinks that...

a) There will be an independent Ukraine.
b) There will be enough protection to make invading Ukraine in the future a bad idea - Zelensky is asking for 200.000 strong permanent army and a a process to quick-step that if needed.
c) Ruzzia is likely to keep either part or total of territories invaded. There may not be official recognition by Ukraine though.
d) Sanctions to Ruzzia will likely be progressively lifted.

I am guessing that all this will make Trump's accounts in the Caymand Island much much fatter.

[DaRude]

[...]

Gas storage and transition were off limits while gas flowed through Ukraine, now Ukraine decided to change the rules, good thing those storage facilities are deep under ground and cannot be easily blown up by some drone  

[...]

It tends to happen that when someone will loose using your rules, they will decide that the rules are other. Example: Ruzzia can use Iranian Sahed, but Ukraine cannot use missiles inside Ruzzia. Since that makes Ukraine lose, the rule is now: you hit our cities and energy infrastructure, we hit your refineries and airbases with anything we have. No brainer here.

 So yes, Ukraine has the right to decide what goes or does not go past Ukraine. It is not really a "new" rule and hey, you should be very happy as it was Ruzzia who wanted to cut the gas to "freeze Europe".

...

Ukraine has EU's largest gas storage facility, it consists of 12 main storage facilities holding about 32.5bcm (out of about 100bcm for all of EU), all build in the Soviet era, meaning Russia knows exact details of all 12 of them. Any theories why Russia is holding back and doesn't take out a third of EU's gas storage capacity?

[...]

Yes I have a theory They do have gas storage facilities - I am guessing if you count the undeground storage, basically putting the gas back into the ground if you need to.

A completely different thing is where the gas is actually stored. That may give you a clue of why Europe did not "freeze" and has no problems with gas supplies nor is going to have them.

But now that you mention other news....

So what does Trump say about this... I think he is going full Mexican Cartel on Ruzzia... "Mi plata of mi plomo"... something like "take my silver or take my plumb (bullet)".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4q7v7ez1o

Trump tells Putin to end 'ridiculous war' in Ukraine or face new sanctions

Writing on his social media platform Truth Social, he said that by pushing to settle the war he was doing Russia and its president a "very big favour".

I agree, Putin has run out of options to "double down" and escalate and the Ruzzia economy is about to collapse. Of course we must all understands that "big favours" call for "big thank you"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/15/marco-rubio-committee-hearing-trump

Rubio says both Russia and Ukraine must make concessions to end war

https://kyivindependent.com/it-needs-to-end-state-secretary-marco-rubios-position-on-russias-war-against-ukraine/

"We are going to engage in making it (the war) end in a way that is sustainable, meaning we don't just want the conflict to end and then restart in two, three, or four years down the road,"

I am going to freely translate this into the following: Rubio thinks that...

a) There will be an independent Ukraine.
b) There will be enough protection to make invading Ukraine in the future a bad idea - Zelensky is asking for 200.000 strong permanent army and a a process to quick-step that if needed.
c) Ruzzia is likely to keep either part or total of territories invaded. There may not be official recognition by Ukraine though.
d) Sanctions to Ruzzia will likely be progressively lifted.

I am guessing that all this will make Trump's accounts in the Caymand Island much much fatter.

I wonder if you realize that you're unintentionally or intentionally? just giving out hope in order to drum up support to mobilize 18yr old Ukrainians   I expect Zelenskyy to come out as the "good guy", protect 18yr olds, and to "only" mobilize 21+ (ask for a double to receive a half)

I fully understand that you cannot answer that now, but can you stick around once this is over and can we expect you to answer then?

[BADecker]

Trump meets Putin over the Ukraine war. Trump says, "We Can Do It The Easy Way, Or The Hard Way." It isn't a threat or even a suggestion of what is going on. It's simply a fact... WW3 or no WW3. Putin understands that everybody understands this.


Alert! Watch How This Develops Very Closely – "We Can Do It The Easy Way, Or The Hard Way"


https://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/alert-watch-how-this-develops-very-closely-we-can-do-it-the-easy-way-or-the-hard-way/
If Kamala Harris had won the election, I am convinced that a nuclear war with Russia would have almost certainly happened during her term.  But Donald Trump won the election instead, and now he has a historic opportunity.  He can end the conflict in Ukraine and avoid a nuclear war with Russia.  If he is able to do that, he will save countless lives.  However, if he handles this situation with Russia badly and nuclear missiles start flying back and forth, it will be the end of America as we know it today.

It is not going to be easy to end the war in Ukraine.  Anyone that suggests otherwise simply does not understand the dynamics that are at play.

The good news is that unlike Biden, Trump actually wants to make a deal, and on Wednesday he posted a message on Truth Social in which he revealed quite a bit about what he is thinking…

I'm not looking to hurt Russia. I love the Russian people, and always had a very good relationship with President Putin – and this despite the Radical Left's Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX. We must never forget that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing almost 60,000,000 lives in the process. All of that being said, I'm going to do Russia, whose Economy is failing, and President Putin, a very big FAVOR. Settle now, and STOP this ridiculous War! IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. If we don't make a "deal," and soon, I have no other choice but to put high levels of Taxes, Tariffs, and Sanctions on anything being sold by Russia to the United States, and various other participating countries. Let's get this war, which never would have started if I were President, over with! We can do it the easy way, or the hard way – and the easy way is always better. It's time to "MAKE A DEAL." NO MORE LIVES SHOULD BE LOST!!!

I very much agree with Trump that we need to end this ridiculous war.

But Trump needs to be very careful.  Diplomatic finesse will be required to reach an agreement, and making threats is not going to help at all.

In particular, telling Russia that we "can do it the easy way, or the hard way" is not going to move the needle in the right direction.

Precisely what would "the hard way" look like?

Would that mean greatly escalating the conflict in Ukraine?
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[paxmao]

Trump meets Putin over the Ukraine war. Trump says, "We Can Do It The Easy Way, Or The Hard Way." It isn't a threat or even a suggestion of what is going on. It's simply a fact... WW3 or no WW3. Putin understands that everybody understands this.

While it is true that Trump said that, he has NOT met with Putin.

Today Ukraine launched another strike in to oil facilities in Ruzzia.. with usual result - plenty of oil burnt. I agree with Trump on one thing - this war is stupid and should have never started.

However, we are where we are. Unsurprisingly, the mere fact that Trump tells Putin to stop did not seem to magically work and it seems clear to me that Putin will negotiate Ruzzia style: in bad faith, saying yes today and no tomorrow and possibly insisting in the stupidity of the Ishtanbul basis.

Meanwhile, the war funds approve by Biden keep Ukraine in a decent position, while even Putin admits inflation is out of control.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-growing-concerned-by-russias-economy-trump-mulls-more-sanctions-2025-01-23/

Exclusive: Putin growing concerned by Russia’s economy, as Trump pushes for Ukraine deal

Putin recognizes the strain the war is putting on the economy, source says
Weak economy contributing to view that negotiated end to the war is desirable, sources say
Putin frustrated with economic issues, scolds officials at Kremlin meeting, sources say

"Russia, of course, is economically interested in negotiating a diplomatic end to the conflict," Oleg Vyugin, former deputy chairman of the Central Bank of Russia said in an interview, citing the risk of growing economic distortions as Russia turbo-charges military and defence spending.

There is no miracle. Ruzzian economy seems to be doing ok simply because the massive debt is now hidden in the accounts of the Ruzzian banks and companies, but it is there and it will blow the roof.

Putin is certainly going to have to be veeeeeery grateful to Trump $$$$$$$$

Hide all under the carpet... what could go wrong?

Nabiullina has faced pressure not to raise rates further from two of Russia's most powerful bankers - her former boss, Sberbank CEO German Gref, and VTB CEO Andrei Kostin - who feared that Russia was heading towards stagflation, one source with knowledge of discussions about the economy said.

[nurnbergprocess]

It seems that there will be a new boiler for the Ukrainian army...

[BADecker]

Trump meets Putin over the Ukraine war. Trump says, "We Can Do It The Easy Way, Or The Hard Way." It isn't a threat or even a suggestion of what is going on. It's simply a fact... WW3 or no WW3. Putin understands that everybody understands this.

While it is true that Trump said that, he has NOT met with Putin.

Today Ukraine launched another strike in to oil facilities in Ruzzia.. with usual result - plenty of oil burnt. I agree with Trump on one thing - this war is stupid and should have never started.

However, we are where we are. Unsurprisingly, the mere fact that Trump tells Putin to stop did not seem to magically work and it seems clear to me that Putin will negotiate Ruzzia style: in bad faith, saying yes today and no tomorrow and possibly insisting in the stupidity of the Ishtanbul basis.

Meanwhile, the war funds approve by Biden keep Ukraine in a decent position, while even Putin admits inflation is out of control.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-growing-concerned-by-russias-economy-trump-mulls-more-sanctions-2025-01-23/

Exclusive: Putin growing concerned by Russia’s economy, as Trump pushes for Ukraine deal

Putin recognizes the strain the war is putting on the economy, source says
Weak economy contributing to view that negotiated end to the war is desirable, sources say
Putin frustrated with economic issues, scolds officials at Kremlin meeting, sources say

"Russia, of course, is economically interested in negotiating a diplomatic end to the conflict," Oleg Vyugin, former deputy chairman of the Central Bank of Russia said in an interview, citing the risk of growing economic distortions as Russia turbo-charges military and defence spending.

There is no miracle. Ruzzian economy seems to be doing ok simply because the massive debt is now hidden in the accounts of the Ruzzian banks and companies, but it is there and it will blow the roof.

Putin is certainly going to have to be veeeeeery grateful to Trump $$$$$$$$

Hide all under the carpet... what could go wrong?

Nabiullina has faced pressure not to raise rates further from two of Russia's most powerful bankers - her former boss, Sberbank CEO German Gref, and VTB CEO Andrei Kostin - who feared that Russia was heading towards stagflation, one source with knowledge of discussions about the economy said.

Do you really know that Putin had only one Oreshnik in his armament? If he had only two or three more, Kiev is simply a memory.

Kievites are trusting Putin and Russia. They just can't think, that's all. If they trust that Russia won't blast them, why don't they look at the recent history and realize that they might be next. If I lived there, I'd be moving... or is Zelensky blocking Oreshnik news in that area.

[paxmao]

Trump meets Putin over the Ukraine war. Trump says, "We Can Do It The Easy Way, Or The Hard Way." It isn't a threat or even a suggestion of what is going on. It's simply a fact... WW3 or no WW3. Putin understands that everybody understands this.

While it is true that Trump said that, he has NOT met with Putin.

Today Ukraine launched another strike in to oil facilities in Ruzzia.. with usual result - plenty of oil burnt. I agree with Trump on one thing - this war is stupid and should have never started.

However, we are where we are. Unsurprisingly, the mere fact that Trump tells Putin to stop did not seem to magically work and it seems clear to me that Putin will negotiate Ruzzia style: in bad faith, saying yes today and no tomorrow and possibly insisting in the stupidity of the Ishtanbul basis.

Meanwhile, the war funds approve by Biden keep Ukraine in a decent position, while even Putin admits inflation is out of control.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-growing-concerned-by-russias-economy-trump-mulls-more-sanctions-2025-01-23/

Exclusive: Putin growing concerned by Russia’s economy, as Trump pushes for Ukraine deal

Putin recognizes the strain the war is putting on the economy, source says
Weak economy contributing to view that negotiated end to the war is desirable, sources say
Putin frustrated with economic issues, scolds officials at Kremlin meeting, sources say

"Russia, of course, is economically interested in negotiating a diplomatic end to the conflict," Oleg Vyugin, former deputy chairman of the Central Bank of Russia said in an interview, citing the risk of growing economic distortions as Russia turbo-charges military and defence spending.

There is no miracle. Ruzzian economy seems to be doing ok simply because the massive debt is now hidden in the accounts of the Ruzzian banks and companies, but it is there and it will blow the roof.

Putin is certainly going to have to be veeeeeery grateful to Trump $$$$$$$$

Hide all under the carpet... what could go wrong?

Nabiullina has faced pressure not to raise rates further from two of Russia's most powerful bankers - her former boss, Sberbank CEO German Gref, and VTB CEO Andrei Kostin - who feared that Russia was heading towards stagflation, one source with knowledge of discussions about the economy said.

Do you really know that Putin had only one Oreshnik in his armament? If he had only two or three more, Kiev is simply a memory.

Kievites are trusting Putin and Russia. They just can't think, that's all. If they trust that Russia won't blast them, why don't they look at the recent history and realize that they might be next. If I lived there, I'd be moving... or is Zelensky blocking Oreshnik news in that area.

This is false information. The ICBM named whatever used in Dnipro is not a war winning weapon - not even useful for hitting high-value targets - for many reasons:

a) The ICBM without nukes used in Dnipro does not have any significant destructive power compared to conventional weapons
b) Is by far less accurate to the point of randomly hitting in a radius of 500 meters.
c) It is by far too expensive to be used at scale.

The use of this ICBM has been a simple show for the crowds and simple minds like dumBAss. What is happening here is that Ruzzia has run out of options and is piling up inflation, debt and interest rates at 21%. Even you idol Trump has said so.

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-warns-vladimir-putin-to-end-ukraine-war-or-face-high-level-of-tariff-doing-him-a-big-favour-11737563058071.html

Donald Trump warns Vladimir Putin to end Ukraine war or face ‘high level of tariff’: ‘Doing you big favour’

Putin however is going to keep the martingale going and has said that there's nothing new in Trumps threat. In this case I certainly have to disagree:

a) The sactions on the "grey fleet" -  ships that appear not be Ruzzian but are transporting Ruzzian oil has been until now largely been left alone, but that may change instantly. It is well known where they are, where they transfer the fuel and what they are doing.

b) There is nothing preventing the US to send decissive military aid to Ukraine, something Biden has not done at all.

If I were Putin, I would say the same but I would certainly do not really believe it for a second.

[BADecker]

^^^ How silly. The Oreshnik used in Dnipro didn't even carry any explosives. It had lots of room for some. If it used precision guidance systems right within itself, placed in the empty spaces where explosives go, it could hit precise sites anywhere.

Your blab doesn't make any sense because it doesn't consider a whole bunch of other options.

I'm not in Russia. I'm not privy tho their plans and whatever strength and weakness they have. Are they slowing down? The map at https://liveuamap.com/en#google_vignette seems to suggest it. The thing the map doesn't show is the why.

Is it because Russia is running out of fire power?

Is it because Trump's threats have reached Putin and he is acting on them, LOL?

Or is it because Ukraine is slowing down in their aggressiveness (see the map), and Russia is making good on their (Russia's) word that they aren't fighting except to stop Ukraine's aggressiveness?

All kinds of assumptions and suppositions are worthless until we know these things.

[paxmao]

^^^ How silly. The Oreshnik used in Dnipro didn't even carry any explosives. It had lots of room for some. If it used precision guidance systems right within itself, placed in the empty spaces where explosives go, it could hit precise sites anywhere.
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All that if false. You obvious do not understand what you are talking about.

Ruzzia is getting "firepower" from North Korea in exchange for money, oil and military secrets. Ruzzia is basically feeding one of the countries that is more likely to start a nuclear war with the tools to effectivel do so.

Latest news, North Korea has sent more soldiers and more multiple launch rocket systems to Ruzzia. I am sure you get this is not for free.

[BADecker]

^^^ How silly. The Oreshnik used in Dnipro didn't even carry any explosives. It had lots of room for some. If it used precision guidance systems right within itself, placed in the empty spaces where explosives go, it could hit precise sites anywhere.
[...]

All that if false. You obvious do not understand what you are talking about.

Ruzzia is getting "firepower" from North Korea in exchange for money, oil and military secrets. Ruzzia is basically feeding one of the countries that is more likely to start a nuclear war with the tools to effectivel do so.

Latest news, North Korea has sent more soldiers and more multiple launch rocket systems to Ruzzia. I am sure you get this is not for free.

Search the Internet to see that even Ukraine is admitting that Oreshnik didn't carry explosives. https://kyivindependent.com/bild-russias-oreshnik-missile-that-targeted-dnipro-was-actually-modified-rubezh-missile/   Lots of sites say this.

Making friends and cementing partnerships with countries that are against the US, is only wise to fight the war that the US has started against Russia. Strength for a future enactment of BRICS. Or strength for a future hot war outside of Ukraine.



EDIT: The US started the war in the Bolshevik Revolution or before. They never stopped, even when the Russians took the BR over. It's been over 100 years since the US and Britain started the war.

Note that the Russian banking system was Russia's attempt to work with the West. Somebody was using the sanctions to disrupt the Russian banking system in the hopes that the Russian economy would be disrupted. It's the US and Britain still trying to to take Russia down after 100 years.

It's going to backfire on them this time. However, God is in complete control. The people who acknowledge HIM, the God of the Bible, Western or Russian, will be the people who have success ultimately.

[paxmao]

^^^ How silly. The Oreshnik used in Dnipro didn't even carry any explosives. It had lots of room for some. If it used precision guidance systems right within itself, placed in the empty spaces where explosives go, it could hit precise sites anywhere.
[...]

All that if false. You obvious do not understand what you are talking about.

Ruzzia is getting "firepower" from North Korea in exchange for money, oil and military secrets. Ruzzia is basically feeding one of the countries that is more likely to start a nuclear war with the tools to effectivel do so.

Latest news, North Korea has sent more soldiers and more multiple launch rocket systems to Ruzzia. I am sure you get this is not for free.

Search the Internet to see that even Ukraine is admitting that Oreshnik didn't carry explosives. https://kyivindependent.com/bild-russias-oreshnik-missile-that-targeted-dnipro-was-actually-modified-rubezh-missile/   Lots of sites say this.
[...]

Not that you silly, the part where you go all creative about re-purposing the weapon.

[BADecker]

~

Search the Internet to see that even Ukraine is admitting that Oreshnik didn't carry explosives. https://kyivindependent.com/bild-russias-oreshnik-missile-that-targeted-dnipro-was-actually-modified-rubezh-missile/   Lots of sites say this.
[...]

Not that you silly, the part where you go all creative about re-purposing the weapon.

That's what all the news is, that Russia repurposed Oreshnik from some other missiles that they had. Of course, they made some changes. Or explain what you mean by 're-purposing'.

You're losing it... grasping at straws so you don't look silly.