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January 08, 2023, 02:13:32 PM
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Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are now popular faces in the game of football so if they don't participate in the game of football, there is not much excitement in the game of football. So when Messi and Neymar were absent in the Lens match there was little excitement and little impact on the game. But now that they are back in the game so the game will be a different excitement and fun to play again
I happy they are back from the holiday, PSG has an upper hand to win the game because of their front liners,no team will be able to stop them from scoring goals,if they have a clash. I don't think with these squad PSG will be able to reach the final stage in the league but I see them go far.

Bayern is good and are always in form at all time due to their quality players which they do have but their clash with PSG will be a tough one. I know that Bayern will do everything possible to win the match to show that they are better than PSG with the world football current superstars.

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January 08, 2023, 02:19:48 PM
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I happy they are back from the holiday, PSG has an upper hand to win the game because of their front liners,no team will be able to stop them from scoring goals,if they have a clash. I don't think with these squad PSG will be able to reach the final stage in the league but I see them go far.
Bayern is good and are always in form at all time due to their quality players which they do have but their clash with PSG will be a tough one. I know that Bayern will do everything possible to win the match to show that they are better than PSG with the world football current superstars.

First of all i have to say, that i find it pretty unlucky that this match between PSG and Bayern Munich is already happening in the round of the last 16 because this could easily also be a final, as it already happened back in 2020. For me the outcome of this match is completely open, a real 50/50 game. Yes obviously PSG probably has the best offense with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, but it has also shown in the past that it is not always a plus if you have those 3 players on the field at the same time.
All 3 of them are usually doing absolutely nothing to support the defense of their team and in todays football that is a very big disadvantage.
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January 08, 2023, 02:48:52 PM
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Lionel Messi will be able to instill greater confidence in himself after winning the World Cup. As a result, he will play a big role in doing something good for PSG.
Lionel Messi always contributes in every match, he is a typical player who is able to carry the ball with his feet and provide measurable passes, plus Messi has a strong instinct when scoring goals and has other advantages when providing assists.

Only scoring goal will not bear good result for PSG. We know Messi Neymar Mbappe trio is a dangerous attack line for any team but I'm not satisfied with their defense. At this time, they have to prevent conceding goal. Overall team performance is need to win against strong team like Bayern Munich.
Defense is one of the important points in football, because this position is the last bastion before reaching the goal. But what I mean is that PSG must be able to score goals quickly to suppress the mentality of the Bayern Munich players, because playing this strategy is sometimes really needed to make the opponent lose concentration and lastly teamwork in building attacks and defending.

Because if it is not coordinated properly, gaps will be created that can be exploited and started to be suppressed by the opposing team. The Champions League requires mentality, because this league is very different from the domestic league.

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January 08, 2023, 02:53:20 PM
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Only scoring goal will not bear good result for PSG. We know Messi Neymar Mbappe trio is a dangerous attack line for any team but I'm not satisfied with their defense. At this time, they have to prevent conceding goal. Overall team performance is need to win against strong team like Bayern Munich.

Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.
It's not really fair to judge PSG's future from the first few matches after the World Cup. Because Lionel Messi has already been training in the PSG team for a few days. And preparing himself to play in the next matches. Expect to see Messi, Neymar, Mbappe play in the next matches and they will give a great match.

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January 08, 2023, 02:58:19 PM
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Lionel Messi will be able to instill greater confidence in himself after winning the World Cup. As a result, he will play a big role in doing something good for PSG.
Lionel Messi always contributes in every match, he is a typical player who is able to carry the ball with his feet and provide measurable passes, plus Messi has a strong instinct when scoring goals and has other advantages when providing assists.

Only scoring goal will not bear good result for PSG. We know Messi Neymar Mbappe trio is a dangerous attack line for any team but I'm not satisfied with their defense. At this time, they have to prevent conceding goal. Overall team performance is need to win against strong team like Bayern Munich.
Defense is one of the important points in football, because this position is the last bastion before reaching the goal. But what I mean is that PSG must be able to score goals quickly to suppress the mentality of the Bayern Munich players, because playing this strategy is sometimes really needed to make the opponent lose concentration and lastly teamwork in building attacks and defending.

Because if it is not coordinated properly, gaps will be created that can be exploited and started to be suppressed by the opposing team. The Champions League requires mentality, because this league is very different from the domestic league.
It is true that PSG team has some problems in defense. The team's defenses keep the ball to themselves for too long and they fail to stop the opposition's attack at times. That is, those failures can be called mistakes.

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January 08, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
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The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.


The German League is scheduled later than the other Europa Leagues. So far, Bayern are still busy looking for candidates for their main goalkeeper and I haven't received accurate information regarding Sadio Mane's injury. and I agree with you, we need to see Bayern's performance when the Budesliga is rolled out again.
Bayern, still haven't shown the team's performance and readiness after the post-world cup. there is still plenty of time for Bayern to prepare their troops, so they will focus more on the domestic league first before preparing their troops for the round of 16 match later at home to PSG.

PSG's defeat, in the domestic league over Lens, must be Galtier's concern. Galtier knows very well that how his team is weak when their two stars are absent from the field, especially he has to fix the defense line of his team. The reason is, Bayern is a team that is very productive when it comes to scoring goals. Nagelsmann's troop squad doesn't always rely solely on center forward players. also, Munich has a very solid teamwork.
so, this match is not easy for the two teams who will meet in the round of 16 later.
PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.

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January 08, 2023, 03:10:04 PM
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Kylian Mbappé is one of the fastest players. And one of the qualifications behind achieving so much is that he can run fast. He has a great role in PSG.
Despite so many great skills owner by mbappe and we can't deny the fact that if mbappe never win UCL. People always beliving in the PSG trio caused by these are great players but as far as i can see that PSG never got a good result in UCL. How fast the player didn't matter a lot if you were facing a team that has a better team work compared with PSG. I just remind you that how bad PSG without messi and neymar.
Mbappe alone can't even help PSG to win the game against lens. We can see that if the truth is mbappe was a great player but how good the player didn't determined by the great player like him

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January 08, 2023, 03:23:49 PM
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I think the best thing is to have some patience, I know that Chelsea fans may feel somewhat overwhelmed by everything their team has been going through, but we only know what they want As far as we know, we don't really know anything or the origin of things.

We're been patience because we know Graham Potter doesn't have his full squad available. Some key players are having injuries that's obstructing the teams progress. We can see when Potter had some players fit how the team played and won games after games. Bit though while we're been patience we also need to see some positivity in the team and I must said from the game against Manchester city, I was impressed even though we lost.

That game was played with full confidence from the squad as we attack Manchester city as we would had done to any other team we played. I strongly believe we'll bounce back but until then Graham Potter shoudn't let us lose against smaller boys that we should be winning comfortably so the boys can be in full confidence when playing Dortmund in the champions league.

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January 08, 2023, 03:27:11 PM
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First of all i have to say, that i find it pretty unlucky that this match between PSG and Bayern Munich is already happening in the round of the last 16 because this could easily also be a final, as it already happened back in 2020. For me the outcome of this match is completely open, a real 50/50 game. Yes obviously PSG probably has the best offense with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, but it has also shown in the past that it is not always a plus if you have those 3 players on the field at the same time.
All 3 of them are usually doing absolutely nothing to support the defense of their team and in todays football that is a very big disadvantage.
Yes unlucky for them, same strong opponent and have been number one in their leagues so far, and they probably deserved to meet more better in the semifinals or final. The match between PSG vs Bayern Munich will be a serious match for both of them, but history is also an important record Bayern Munich on paper is ahead, and PSG must be more motivated in this match. But I agree with three great player Messi Neymar Mbappe, they should be able also to more support in defense as well and Galtier must to be think this.

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January 08, 2023, 03:33:26 PM
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The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.
The German League is scheduled later than the other Europa Leagues. So far, Bayern are still busy looking for candidates for their main goalkeeper and I haven't received accurate information regarding Sadio Mane's injury. and I agree with you, we need to see Bayern's performance when the Budesliga is rolled out again.
Bayern, still haven't shown the team's performance and readiness after the post-world cup. there is still plenty of time for Bayern to prepare their troops, so they will focus more on the domestic league first before preparing their troops for the round of 16 match later at home to PSG.
PSG's defeat, in the domestic league over Lens, must be Galtier's concern. Galtier knows very well that how his team is weak when their two stars are absent from the field, especially he has to fix the defense line of his team. The reason is, Bayern is a team that is very productive when it comes to scoring goals. Nagelsmann's troop squad doesn't always rely solely on center forward players. also, Munich has a very solid teamwork.
so, this match is not easy for the two teams who will meet in the round of 16 later.

There is still a lot of time for Bayern Munich vs PSG match I think both the teams are going to be really well prepared for the match because this match is going to be really important for both of the teams.

The main factor for Bayern Munich is going to be the unavailability of Manuel Neuer. They are really in need of a younger goalkeeper and as the transfer window is live now, this is their perfect chance to get a goalkeeper for the longer run. And about PSG, if Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe are fit, they might have an edge over Munich.

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January 08, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
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PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.
PSG has been failed so many times. It doesn't matter how many players owner by PSG but if the club was playing so bad against bayern and it will become another team that got destroyed by bayern.
Bayern itself is a professional team with so many great players but bayern's players are less popular compared with PSG. Bayern was almost kicking out PSG from UCL last year but PSG was so luck caused by it wins  due to the agregat. I think that PSG must play seriously if the team wanna try to surpass the big wall that will come soon.
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January 08, 2023, 04:22:08 PM
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We're been patience because we know Graham Potter doesn't have his full squad available. Some key players are having injuries that's obstructing the teams progress. We can see when Potter had some players fit how the team played and won games after games. Bit though while we're been patience we also need to see some positivity in the team and I must said from the game against Manchester city, I was impressed even though we lost.

That game was played with full confidence from the squad as we attack Manchester city as we would had done to any other team we played. I strongly believe we'll bounce back but until then Graham Potter shoudn't let us lose against smaller boys that we should be winning comfortably so the boys can be in full confidence when playing Dortmund in the champions league.
I don't blame with 10 main Chelsea player was inured and Graham Potter faced difficult moment how to build with good starting line up, actually after having several poor performance in Primer League. Have lucky although several defeated in Primer League and have enough time preparing for UEFA Champion League as Dortmund opponent, have one month later left for first leg and Chelsea can build back their squad after recovering from injured.

Still unbelievable with Chelsea performance in Primer League and have potential missing Champion League spot standing position next season after dropping to 10th placed. In domestic league, Chelsea remaining many points from UCL spot zone and possibility qualify to Champion League next season if become the winner in this season although failed finish at UCL spot zone.

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PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.
PSG has been failed so many times. It doesn't matter how many players owner by PSG but if the club was playing so bad against bayern and it will become another team that got destroyed by bayern.
Bayern itself is a professional team with so many great players but bayern's players are less popular compared with PSG. Bayern was almost kicking out PSG from UCL last year but PSG was so luck caused by it wins  due to the agregat. I think that PSG must play seriously if the team wanna try to surpass the big wall that will come soon.
Bayern fully experienced in killing the movement of messi
Bayern's squad quality is really good. The reason why it is not talked about as much as Paris SG is because Bayern is such a quality team. While Paris SG has quality offensive players such as Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, we can count Mane as such a Star player of Bayern. Therefore, although the more modest team may look like Bayern, they can always have positions to push Paris SG out of the cup.

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January 08, 2023, 04:35:37 PM
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A slight overhaul of Lionel Messi's position will make PSG sharper in building attacks, in my opinion placing Lionel Messi slightly below Neymar and Kylian Mbappe will be more optimal in attacking and controlling the game, because Lionel Messi has an advantage in dribbling before giving measurable passes or before scoring
I get where you're coming from but you are wrong. Messi plays his best football from the right wing. He cuts in from the right wing, dribbles and gives a sublime pass or shoots. If they play with that formation you're suggesting against Bayern they'll lose. They need their wings against Bayern. Neymar running at them from the left ad Messi running at them from the right while Mbappe is doing that up front. Besides PSG have a very good midfield now with the inclusion of Fabian Ruiz. He's very technical just like Verratti.
In a team like PSG, Messi should have no business playing as a supporting striker for two reasons, and this is aside the fact that Messi is at his best in the right wing.
1. If you take Messi behind Neymer and Mbappe that means you're playing with two attackers which will make the wing not as effective as it should. This would give the Full backs of the opposing team more freedom to attack
2. If you still want to play with 3 attackers while Messi plays behind them then your midfielders will be down to 2 which is a disadvantage. 

Yes, I agree with you that Lionel Messi plays his best football on the right wing. In the past, he used to play better in the center forward position as the false nine but in recent times he has been playing far better in the right wing as he tends to cut in and make those forward plays. Maybe keeping Kylian Mbappe as the striker and playing Neymar on the left wing and finally Lionel Messi on the right wing it's a perfect play for PSG in my opinion.

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January 08, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
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PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.
PSG has been failed so many times. It doesn't matter how many players owner by PSG but if the club was playing so bad against bayern and it will become another team that got destroyed by bayern.
Bayern itself is a professional team with so many great players but bayern's players are less popular compared with PSG. Bayern was almost kicking out PSG from UCL last year but PSG was so luck caused by it wins  due to the agregat. I think that PSG must play seriously if the team wanna try to surpass the big wall that will come soon.
Bayern fully experienced in killing the movement of messi
Well psg might be favorited to win this clash.

But yeah bayern have a more solid team work despite they are a bit struggling in the early season ... bayern remain a huge threat for them , missing neuer at the goalkeeping post become the biggest loss for bayern .. no wonder if the bookies put psg on the favorite side.

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January 08, 2023, 04:43:35 PM
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From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

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January 08, 2023, 04:47:36 PM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.
A little doubtful that Chelsea will be easy against Dortmund, in fact Dortmund have not appeared very strong this season, but the current situation for these two teams is equally bad this season, this season Chelsea did not perform as well as when they won the champions league, significant changes have changed Chelsea this season, and since Chelsea under Tuchel's tutelage I think a lot of the team's performance has decreased.
Now Graham Potter has replaced Tuchel and wants to bring/revive Chelsea to the better, but what we've seen is not consistent improvement..

Maybe for this  season I doubt Chelsea will continue to the next round, Chelsea and Dortmund have a balanced percentage of winning their matches in the upcoming matches. In my opinion, in terms of improving the performance of the Chelsea team, they have to get new players who are good in material.
and with some injuries I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to beat Dortmund, unless luck is on Chelsea's side.
I think Dortmund should be worried about facing Chelsea. Three seasons ago I would clearly predict Dortmund to win without consideration but this season Dortmund have not been in good shape, Chelsea also have been struggling but I think Chelsea's performance is better than that of Dortmund, also English teams have a records of beating German teams more in the Champions league so I think Chelsea have upper hand in this game.
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January 08, 2023, 04:59:23 PM
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From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

But the fact is that Real Madrid is a team that is difficult for Liverpool to beat because even when last season Liverpool were in their best performance and form but Liverpool still couldn't beat Real Madrid. What's more this season Liverpool have to overcome their main problems in the Premier League and with that, I personally don't believe Liverpool will beat Real Madrid.
Talking about winning the Champions League title is something very big and difficult to achieve, at least a team that has a great chance of getting the Champions League title is a team that is also great in the local league.

So yes, I think it seems that Liverpool no longer have any hope of being able to play in the Champions League next season, this is of course bad because Liverpool are still being coached by a great coach who has been at Liverpool for a long time.
Because when compared to Chelsea, I think it's normal, because Chelsea is indeed undergoing a reshuffle. But for Liverpool, this season has indeed been a bad season for Liverpool, maybe in all competitions.

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January 08, 2023, 05:56:11 PM
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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.
I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.
Dortmund is far stronger compared with chelsea. Even if chelsea was doing a bit better in the champion league and it's pure caused by luck. I will not underestimate chelsea but chelsea was getting easy club unlike another team which was competing in the difficult club. You can imagine once chelsea would be entering into the hard club and then im sure chelsea will not able to be qualified for the last 16.
The problem is if chelsea keeps showing the bad performance like this and i can't even imagine how bad chelsea in the match against dortmund. Chelsea's performance looks like a small team right now.
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I have to admit that I didn't watch Chelsea's matches in the English league, but I did in the Champions League because they were in the same group as Dinamo.
The first two games they were very bad and last in the group, but then they changed the coach and won all the games in the group until the end.
They were particularly impressive against Milan, one of the leading teams in the Italian league.
Based on that, I think Chelsea have a very real chance against Dortmund and should not be underestimated.

I think the main difference between Chelsea and Dortmund is the chemistry between the players. I think that Dortmund players have better chemistry among themselves compared to that Chelsea. Another thing Chelsea lacks is the striker's position as I do not think they have a consistent goal scorer.

I personally really love the play style of Dortmund as they press really high up on the pitch and their attacks are really fast and accurate. Overall I think we are up for a really competitive game of football.

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January 08, 2023, 06:00:40 PM
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I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

I don't think so. Chelsea has so many over rated players which already bought since last years but potter were not able to make them got their best performance again. The problem that happened with chelsea is the team was always rushing to buy the  new player without even consider about how important such player to the club. i don't know what's wrong with chelsea but the team has been getting the worst performance.
Dortmund is even more favourable in this match. The inconsistency that already showed by chelsea has been triggering so many questions to the club.
Dortmund in so many advantage against chelsea. that will be so good for the team

At the moment, Chelsea is playing City again and the score after the first half is already 3-0 in favor of City. Let it be the FA Cup and let Chelsea not play in the best lineup, but I have to admit that they are unacceptably weak. Zero shots on target.
If nothing changes then Dortmund will really easily beat them (if Dortmund themselves don't fail like they like to do lol).

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