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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 17, 2023, 05:35:51 PM
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Liverpool's performance is not stable. Their team is not weak. They have a strong enough squad. Despite having a lot of star players, they are not playing well. It seems their problem is tactical. Liverpool suffered a humiliating 3-0 defeat against Brighton in the last match. With such a fragile team, it is not possible to win the Champions League against experienced opponents like Real Madrid. Against Liverpool, we will see the dominance of Madrid.
Right now main problem is performance is not stable because they are doing things which are surely needs to be fixed, but they are having nothing improvement in long run despite having few star players results like Brighton are not acceptable which needs to be having change otherwise they will be not able to stay into top ten while they were fighting for the top four which is currently the hardest job with current form and performance of the defense which is ruin by many teams in last few weeks and no one understanding what's going on around them.

With result like this they can't think about any positive result in Champions League specially while they are going to face Real Madrid which is defending champions and have good unit even also facing some issues, but they are still better than RED DEVILS.

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January 17, 2023, 05:38:10 PM
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Barcelona underestimated Frankfurt last year and were eventually knocked out of the tournament by them. But I don't think that something like that can happen to Napoli - they are not a top club, they are eternal underdogs in Serie A which are often close to the title but never achieve it (hopefully this season this tradition will be broken), so they are hungry for victories and they cannot "relax at the top" for the simple reason that they have yet to climb it.
If Napoli decide that playing in the Champions League is as much a priority as winning Serie A, they will beat Frankfurt big.

In addition, the Bundesliga hasn't started yet because they have a long break compared to other leagues, so we also don't know whether Eintracht Frankfurt's performance will continue to be good or maybe decrease. Because if we don't consider Eintracht Frankfurt's current performance then of course, our view of Napoli is indeed very good at this moment.
With Napoli still very strong at the top of the Serie A standings, I think it is clear that Napoli will be assumed to win smoothly. Because if Napoli's position in Serie A is safe enough then of course Napoli will be able to play with good gameplay too when they play against Eintracht Frankfurt in the Champions League.

The fact that the Bundesliga restarts much later than the rest of the leagues will probably not affect the chances of the teams in the Champions League (and other European competitions) - German clubs will have enough time to "warm up" and the clubs of other countries will not have time to accumulate fatigue for it to matter (the only thing may have an impact - injuries but this is a random fair for everyone).
It can be assumed that most likely the teams will be in optimal shape and Napoli are obviously stronger here.

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January 17, 2023, 07:14:03 PM
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I believe that sooner or later Liverpool board will have to take a bold call i.e. continue to back Klopp or sack him and allow a new coach to start fresh with the current squad and if you ask me I would suggest that they consider bringing in a new coach. Also I expect Real Madrid to score many goals against them, and thus I don’t expect Liverpool to win against Madrid and depending on the odds wagering big on Madrid won’t be a bad idea right?.
No doubt we have too many issues in Liverpool and their performance is also on decline for the long time which is not sign and board members are also losing their patience about this all but after watching all things at Chelsea for me, they will not take any decision in middle of the season even they lost spot into top four and have not good result in Champions League they will try to manage things until end of this season then we can expect some changes or talk about this all.

Even Klopp's strategy not working for the time being and having difficult time, but management understand him and his abilities which is main thing for any coach if they have done like Chelsea then surely this could be created more mess up, and they can go down or even out of the rang which is currently having for them.
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January 17, 2023, 07:35:27 PM
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I don't want to disrespect Frankfurt of course but I don't give them a big chance against Napoli now. Because Napoli are still destroying nearly every team standing in their way. The World Cup break hasn't changed much thing for them. I don't expect them to play differently in the Champions League as well. They would do their best to achieve the biggest success they can.

Frankfurt are also a decent team as you all said. Maybe they can do something in Germany but I still don't think they will have a very close matchup. Napoli would have the control in their hands most of the time and move on.

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January 17, 2023, 07:37:18 PM
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I believe that sooner or later Liverpool board will have to take a bold call i.e. continue to back Klopp or sack him and allow a new coach to start fresh with the current squad and if you ask me I would suggest that they consider bringing in a new coach. Also I expect Real Madrid to score many goals against them, and thus I don’t expect Liverpool to win against Madrid and depending on the odds wagering big on Madrid won’t be a bad idea right?.
No doubt we have too many issues in Liverpool and their performance is also on decline for the long time which is not sign and board members are also losing their patience about this all but after watching all things at Chelsea for me, they will not take any decision in middle of the season even they lost spot into top four and have not good result in Champions League they will try to manage things until end of this season then we can expect some changes or talk about this all.

Even Klopp's strategy not working for the time being and having difficult time, but management understand him and his abilities which is main thing for any coach if they have done like Chelsea then surely this could be created more mess up, and they can go down or even out of the rang which is currently having for them.
Klopp should be given a little time to see if he can fix the team back to the normal Liverpool, he is a good coach and has helped the club,it is just that things are not working for him. I don't know if Tue poor performance of the team is from his side or the players side.

It will be a terrible day for Liverpool when they will playing Real Madrid, if they don't buggle up because Real Madrid will score so much goals in the match and this will be a shame to the fans of the club and the club itself, but I don't think that match will be as easy as that. Klopp will try his best to see that his team will be fit for that match.

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January 17, 2023, 08:00:23 PM
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Klopp should be given a little time to see if he can fix the team back to the normal Liverpool, he is a good coach and has helped the club,it is just that things are not working for him. I don't know if Tue poor performance of the team is from his side or the players side.

It will be a terrible day for Liverpool when they will playing Real Madrid, if they don't buggle up because Real Madrid will score so much goals in the match and this will be a shame to the fans of the club and the club itself, but I don't think that match will be as easy as that. Klopp will try his best to see that his team will be fit for that match.

I think Klopp could very well turn things around in the club. He has proven time and time again to be very capable to deliver on the club expectations. The blame would in most cases, rest on the manager of the club if the players don’t perform according to expectations. Things may not be going as expected for Liverpool at the moment but that’s just football. You win some, you lose some.

It definitely will not be an easy game for Liverpool when they face Real Madrid as Real Madrid is at their top form and play well. Real Madrid is most likely the preferred team to win the game. One thing I know for sure is that I’m not putting my money on Liverpool in this game.
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January 17, 2023, 08:14:02 PM
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I think Klopp could very well turn things around in the club. He has proven time and time again to be very capable to deliver on the club expectations. The blame would in most cases, rest on the manager of the club if the players don’t perform according to expectations. Things may not be going as expected for Liverpool at the moment but that’s just football. You win some, you lose some.

It definitely will not be an easy game for Liverpool when they face Real Madrid as Real Madrid is at their top form and play well. Real Madrid is most likely the preferred team to win the game. One thing I know for sure is that I’m not putting my money on Liverpool in this game.

I disagree that Real Madrid are currently on their top form. Yes before the World Cup break they were brilliant but this Madrid team looks disoriented since the league resume after World Cup. The absence of Touchemane has been a big blow to them. It also seems Vinicius jnr is either suffering from fatigue from or is having an un disclosed injury because he seems to be off it this season. This problems gives Liverpool a glimpse of hope for their showdown but Liverpool on the other hand aren’t doing themselves any favors by playing poorly since the return of the league and if this inconsistency doesn’t stop before the match week then Real Madrid might be on course to eliminate them.

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January 17, 2023, 08:32:55 PM
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I think Klopp could very well turn things around in the club. He has proven time and time again to be very capable to deliver on the club expectations. The blame would in most cases, rest on the manager of the club if the players don’t perform according to expectations. Things may not be going as expected for Liverpool at the moment but that’s just football. You win some, you lose some.

It definitely will not be an easy game for Liverpool when they face Real Madrid as Real Madrid is at their top form and play well. Real Madrid is most likely the preferred team to win the game. One thing I know for sure is that I’m not putting my money on Liverpool in this game.

I disagree that Real Madrid are currently on their top form. Yes before the World Cup break they were brilliant but this Madrid team looks disoriented since the league resume after World Cup. The absence of Touchemane has been a big blow to them. It also seems Vinicius jnr is either suffering from fatigue from or is having an un disclosed injury because he seems to be off it this season. This problems gives Liverpool a glimpse of hope for their showdown but Liverpool on the other hand aren’t doing themselves any favors by playing poorly since the return of the league and if this inconsistency doesn’t stop before the match week then Real Madrid might be on course to eliminate them.
I think if the comparison with Liverpool at the moment it is clear that Madrid is still better.
Even though I am a Liverpool fan in this case, I admit that Liverpool's performance is clearly worse now, so they really need to play even better if they still want to be on the Champions League stage.
We know how strong Madrid are and we have lost the previous meetings. The hope is revenge of course but with the current conditions I'm still a little unsure of Liverpool's strength.

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January 17, 2023, 09:11:33 PM
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I think if the comparison with Liverpool at the moment it is clear that Madrid is still better.
Even though I am a Liverpool fan in this case, I admit that Liverpool's performance is clearly worse now, so they really need to play even better if they still want to be on the Champions League stage.
Real Madrid have been even better than Liverpool most of the time, not just now. Liverpool have only won 6 titles compared to Real Madrid's 14 titles so far, meanwhile Liverpool are only 1 title ahead of Barcelona which ranks 5th in the acquisition of titles. Real Madrid's performance this season is also better than Liverpool's, but you can expect something different in the Champions League considering that Liverpool have only lost once in the group stage.

We know how strong Madrid are and we have lost the previous meetings. The hope is revenge of course but with the current conditions I'm still a little unsure of Liverpool's strength.
Revenge is not an ambition that Liverpool must have every time they meet Real Madrid in the same competition. Liverpool should only have to think about how they can play well and finish the match with an important victory, that's because revenge for them will only end more tragically as it has in previous seasons. Maybe, Liverpool's hard work this season will beat Real Madrid especially because Real Madrid has also had problems with their form recently.

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January 17, 2023, 09:16:25 PM
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Real Madrid have been even better than Liverpool most of the time, not just now. Liverpool have only won 6 titles compared to Real Madrid's 14 titles so far, meanwhile Liverpool are only 1 title ahead of Barcelona which ranks 5th in the acquisition of titles. Real Madrid's performance this season is also better than Liverpool's, but you can expect something different in the Champions League considering that Liverpool have only lost once in the group stage.

The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.
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January 17, 2023, 09:16:32 PM
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I think Klopp could very well turn things around in the club. He has proven time and time again to be very capable to deliver on the club expectations. The blame would in most cases, rest on the manager of the club if the players don’t perform according to expectations. Things may not be going as expected for Liverpool at the moment but that’s just football. You win some, you lose some.

It definitely will not be an easy game for Liverpool when they face Real Madrid as Real Madrid is at their top form and play well. Real Madrid is most likely the preferred team to win the game. One thing I know for sure is that I’m not putting my money on Liverpool in this game.

I disagree that Real Madrid are currently on their top form. Yes before the World Cup break they were brilliant but this Madrid team looks disoriented since the league resume after World Cup. The absence of Touchemane has been a big blow to them. It also seems Vinicius jnr is either suffering from fatigue from or is having an un disclosed injury because he seems to be off it this season. This problems gives Liverpool a glimpse of hope for their showdown but Liverpool on the other hand aren’t doing themselves any favors by playing poorly since the return of the league and if this inconsistency doesn’t stop before the match week then Real Madrid might be on course to eliminate them.
I think if the comparison with Liverpool at the moment it is clear that Madrid is still better.
Even though I am a Liverpool fan in this case, I admit that Liverpool's performance is clearly worse now, so they really need to play even better if they still want to be on the Champions League stage.
We know how strong Madrid are and we have lost the previous meetings. The hope is revenge of course but with the current conditions I'm still a little unsure of Liverpool's strength.

Liverpool being beaten 3-0 by Brighton says a lot about the actual condition of the Liverpool team,you cannot really expect Liverpool to have even the slightest chance to qualify despite being a fan of them and I am a fan of them too,they simply are not in shape right now and they should start to get themselves on track first in order to have a chance to qualify.I know that in here there are just 2 games home and return and they decide everything and in 2 such games any team can bring out the best of them including Liverpool but they give their 110% in order to qualify.Real is not even in top form now after suffering a humiliating defeat from Barcelona in the Spain Super Cup.

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January 17, 2023, 09:19:02 PM
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The round of 16 match will not be easy for Oliver Glasner and his troops. because after all, Glasner is well aware that the opponent they will face later is not a weak team. plus, Frankfurt has tough matches in the next few weeks after the Bundisliga restarts. at the very least, Glasner's attention will be on focusing his squad more on maintaining their ranking in the domestic league.

On the other hand, Napoli is a strong team that is one of the challengers to be reckoned with in this competition. after all, Napoli have more depth than Frankfurt's players. So it's natural that many of us prefer Napoli both away and at home. after all, Napoli are top of the standings in their domestic competition. however, I'm sure Luciano Spalleatti will not underestimate his opponent. because after all, this fight is the first meeting of these two teams.
Likewise with Frankfurt, at least they will provide a fierce resistance when they face Napoli at their own base later.
I think it is not that bad for them, they do not have too much pressure on themselves. Sure it looks like they are ging to have to work really hard to win, but at the same time they do not look like they are going to be upset if they lose neither.

Nobody from their fans would blame Glasner nor any of the players if they end up losing, they are expected to lose and they will lose and they will go back on focusing bundesliga. They are not doing great at Bundesliga to begin with, so it's much better if they could end up winning there instead. This is of course a trouble in the long run, why shouldn't they end up with a win, if they could, but they can't hence it's alright.

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January 17, 2023, 09:31:04 PM
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I think Klopp could very well turn things around in the club. He has proven time and time again to be very capable to deliver on the club expectations. The blame would in most cases, rest on the manager of the club if the players don’t perform according to expectations. Things may not be going as expected for Liverpool at the moment but that’s just football. You win some, you lose some.

It definitely will not be an easy game for Liverpool when they face Real Madrid as Real Madrid is at their top form and play well. Real Madrid is most likely the preferred team to win the game. One thing I know for sure is that I’m not putting my money on Liverpool in this game.

I disagree that Real Madrid are currently on their top form. Yes before the World Cup break they were brilliant but this Madrid team looks disoriented since the league resume after World Cup. The absence of Touchemane has been a big blow to them. It also seems Vinicius jnr is either suffering from fatigue from or is having an un disclosed injury because he seems to be off it this season. This problems gives Liverpool a glimpse of hope for their showdown but Liverpool on the other hand aren’t doing themselves any favors by playing poorly since the return of the league and if this inconsistency doesn’t stop before the match week then Real Madrid might be on course to eliminate them.
They are not at their peak right now. Madrid I know they are capable of doing anything, but when I looked at Madrid's previous results, they had only won three games, lost one, and drawn another. I felt that this was a poor showing before the world cup because, when I looked at group F, all of the teams were easy wins for Madrid. I hope this gives them the motivation they need to play well when they return.

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January 17, 2023, 09:35:11 PM
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I disagree that Real Madrid are currently on their top form. Yes before the World Cup break they were brilliant but this Madrid team looks disoriented since the league resume after World Cup. The absence of Touchemane has been a big blow to them. It also seems Vinicius jnr is either suffering from fatigue from or is having an un disclosed injury because he seems to be off it this season. This problems gives Liverpool a glimpse of hope for their showdown but Liverpool on the other hand aren’t doing themselves any favors by playing poorly since the return of the league and if this inconsistency doesn’t stop before the match week then Real Madrid might be on course to eliminate them.
Real Madrid has been a little bit down in La Liga for many reasons. Ancelotti insists he needs a few players to improve his team's form with a full-back and a striker the two players who are urgently needed. Real Madrid cannot fully rely on Benzema until the end of the season, and that will definitely be a problem when Benzema fails to prove his consistency in scoring goals.

But I think Real Madrid will do well in their preparations against Liverpool in the Champions League. We proved it last season even if there were doubts, but the title is the most valid proof that Real Madrid should not be underestimated under any situation.

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January 17, 2023, 09:50:53 PM
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Real Madrid have been even better than Liverpool most of the time, not just now. Liverpool have only won 6 titles compared to Real Madrid's 14 titles so far, meanwhile Liverpool are only 1 title ahead of Barcelona which ranks 5th in the acquisition of titles. Real Madrid's performance this season is also better than Liverpool's, but you can expect something different in the Champions League considering that Liverpool have only lost once in the group stage.

The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.
Liverpool has had very bad results in the domestic league recently. It was losing against a weak club like brighten with huge scores. I think that what you have been saying above will come true for sure. The problem is that was making us so difficult to predict caused by Liverpool has a good head to head against real Madrid too. Even though Madrid has been winning more rather than Liverpool but Liverpool was still able to win against Madrid three times. That being said that Liverpool has the capability to defeat Madrid at this moment but without its old trident. This gonna a hard match for Liverpool.

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January 17, 2023, 11:44:15 PM
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The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.
This season will certainly be a little easier for Real Madrid in facing Liverpool in the Champions League because Liverpool themselves are in a very inconsistent condition. Everyone can see this in every Liverpool match in their domestic league where Liverpool have lost very often to teams that are not too strong and now Liverpool is in a very bad ranking in their domestic league. So this will certainly be very difficult for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the Champions League.

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January 18, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
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The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.
This season will certainly be a little easier for Real Madrid in facing Liverpool in the Champions League because Liverpool themselves are in a very inconsistent condition. Everyone can see this in every Liverpool match in their domestic league where Liverpool have lost very often to teams that are not too strong and now Liverpool is in a very bad ranking in their domestic league. So this will certainly be very difficult for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the Champions League.

The performance of the Liverpool team is not stable. Liverpool was also badly beaten in the last match against a weak Brighton. But let's not forget that Liverpool is an experienced club and they have a strong squad. And maybe because of tactical weakness, we are not getting good performance from Liverpool. In the match between Madrid and Liverpool, Madrid is definitely the favorite. Still, Liverpool is not to be taken lightly. If Real Madrid makes any mistakes in the match, they are likely to lose points.

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January 18, 2023, 01:44:40 AM
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Real Madrid have been even better than Liverpool most of the time, not just now. Liverpool have only won 6 titles compared to Real Madrid's 14 titles so far, meanwhile Liverpool are only 1 title ahead of Barcelona which ranks 5th in the acquisition of titles. Real Madrid's performance this season is also better than Liverpool's, but you can expect something different in the Champions League considering that Liverpool have only lost once in the group stage.
The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.

First of all, I would say that Real Madrid is more likely to win as Liverpool are not in good form. Because there is no more experienced team than Real Madrid on a platform like the Champions League. I also checked the results of the previous head-to-head matches between these two teams. The Liverpool team could not win even one of the last 6 head to head matches. Real Madrid won 5 matches and drew 1 match. In addition, in these 6 matches, Liverpool scored only 2 goals, on the other hand, Real Madrid scored 11 goals. The Liverpool team will be much ahead in the statistics of the previous matches.

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January 18, 2023, 03:11:51 AM
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First of all, I would say that Real Madrid is more likely to win as Liverpool are not in good form.
With big clubs, experience is more important than recent form and if their players still have ambition and reasons to fight, they can play very well. Like Liverpool, they are in a bad season with many problems from injuries to bad performances of players. Nevertheless I think their players have more willingness to fight in Champions League. They still have a good squad and Premier League is over for them as they can not beat Arsenal or Manchester City to win Premier League. In Champions League, knock-out phase will start in February and they can win a few matches and have another final match.

There are less matches in Champions League to win its trophy and with knock-out matches, everything can occur.

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Because there is no more experienced team than Real Madrid on a platform like the Champions League. I also checked the results of the previous head-to-head matches between these two teams. The Liverpool team could not win even one of the last 6 head to head matches. Real Madrid won 5 matches and drew 1 match. In addition, in these 6 matches, Liverpool scored only 2 goals, on the other hand, Real Madrid scored 11 goals. The Liverpool team will be much ahead in the statistics of the previous matches.
Experience and form are different things. Even a club have excellent form but if they don't have enough experience in Champions League, they can lose easily in knock-out phase.

Real Madrid won many trophies there because they are a big club, with so great tradition and their players already experienced many matches in Champions League against big giants there. With a pride of champion and strong mentality, they don't give up if matches have yet ended.

In the past season, Real Madrid reverted many matches so impressively with many big victims PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City. Liverpool is one of favorite opponents for Real Madrid. During Klopp era, many times Real Madrid won against Liverpool.

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January 18, 2023, 04:56:51 AM
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The history between Liverpool and Real Madrid has its own story. Real Madrid is still ahead of any team when it comes to the number of UCL trophies. At the moment Real Madrid is still in consistent condition both in the domestic league and the UCL, they always get the best results from every match and when I meet Liverpool in the play-offs later I'm sure Real Madrid will win in leg 1 and leg 2.
This season will certainly be a little easier for Real Madrid in facing Liverpool in the Champions League because Liverpool themselves are in a very inconsistent condition. Everyone can see this in every Liverpool match in their domestic league where Liverpool have lost very often to teams that are not too strong and now Liverpool is in a very bad ranking in their domestic league. So this will certainly be very difficult for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the Champions League.

The performance of the Liverpool team is not stable. Liverpool was also badly beaten in the last match against a weak Brighton. But let's not forget that Liverpool is an experienced club and they have a strong squad. And maybe because of tactical weakness, we are not getting good performance from Liverpool. In the match between Madrid and Liverpool, Madrid is definitely the favorite. Still, Liverpool is not to be taken lightly. If Real Madrid makes any mistakes in the match, they are likely to lose points.

I agree with you on this Liverpool is not in good shape as they have suffered several defeats from the weaker teams lately but when it comes to their game in the Champions League, I think is going to be an interesting game because knowing that they are up against Real Madrid Aline will motivate them to put up a good performance and as we all know, Liverpool have a good experience in the game likewise  Madrid so we should expect a tough match between the two side as they both will not want to miss out in the next stage. Madrid is not the favourite in my opinion because them performance has not been solid like before but they can rise up to do the unthinkable since is going to be a big match for them.

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