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October 28, 2023, 04:52:37 AM
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Another important game today being played between Australia and New Zealand at Dharamshala. I am surprised with the betting odds for today's match. Australia is the favorite to win today and not New Zealand by the bookies. I personally believe that New Zealand team has an upper edge against the Australian team.

Today are the two matches of the ICC World Cup 2023, and the first match toss was completed and New Zealand decided to bowl first. If New Zealand wins this match with a good run rate so maybe they can achieve the first position in the point table, and I want to see New Zealand in the first position on the point table of this World Cup.

New Zealand lost just one match, while Australia lost their two matches, which means New Zealand had a better performance than the Australia team. I don't know what is wrong with the bookies, let’s see what happens in today’s match. I want to see New Zealand as the winner of this match.
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October 28, 2023, 05:32:16 AM
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Australia need the win just to keep their semi-final hopes alive. Technically, there are still possibilities that Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan may still quality for the semi-finals. But 99% probability is that it is going to be India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia (in that order).

Top 3 seems confirmed to me too, regarding 4th spot, I think it could be Aussies or Sri Lankans, SL is performing real good in last couple games, that too without Kusal Mendis contributing much with the bat.

Regarding Afghanistan, I dunno why'd you mention them, I see 0 chances.

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October 28, 2023, 05:49:25 AM
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This is pure carnage by the Australian batters; they scored the fastest team hundred in this World Cup. Travis Head started from where he left a month ago, and David Warner is also in sublime form. After 9 over, AUS is 108/0, and they are eying on a target of over 400 today. Both the batsman scored their respective fifties. The stage is set for the AUS's power hitter to unearth havoc on the New Zealand bowling attack. New Zealand has to take wickets regularly if they want to stay in the game.
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October 28, 2023, 06:42:29 AM
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Glenn Phillips giving both openers breakthroughs to the NZ.

23 overs gone, Aussies at 200, they are playing at 8.6 RR atm but it's bound to go down since two new batters will be on crease, they look like crossing 400 mark today as plenty overs and batters left but might not if NZ can take few more quick wickets.

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October 28, 2023, 07:20:04 AM
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South Africa somehow survived with the additional help of the umpire who made some terrible decisions and the lack of Pakistan bowlers to pick up the tail end wickets and their fielding positions giving them easy singles when they were 8 down and expect to win by picking up the wickets which they never did.

It is amazing how South Africa does really well when they bat first but chasing is a nightmare for them Cheesy.
There is too much talk about this decision even first time I read Harbhajan Singh was not happy with this umpire decision, and he was calling this is wrong and unfair look like many are disappointed with the defeat of Pakistan even we all know this is rule, and we have to follow this as we also accept other decision like we have for the Van Dušan which was also given LBW in this match on umpire call, but now all is end and things are looking impressive with this win now they are at the top of league table for few days because India is going to play their next game against England on Sunday and if they won then they could be again on top with 6 out of 6 wins in this event.

Pakistan lost, and main reason is their poor batting which never been ideal in this event mostly their batsmen out just because of poor selection of shorts, and they also have not solid strategy how to play against quality spinners which creates problems for them.

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October 28, 2023, 07:47:32 AM
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Glenn Phillips giving both openers breakthroughs to the NZ.

23 overs gone, Aussies at 200, they are playing at 8.6 RR atm but it's bound to go down since two new batters will be on crease, they look like crossing 400 mark today as plenty overs and batters left but might not if NZ can take few more quick wickets.

Australian batsman's slower down significantly after the early onslaught. New Zealand spinners are bowling at the right length and putting pressure on Australia; particularly, Phillips has bowled exceptionally well.
Australia is 274/5 after 38.1 overs, and losing wickets at regular intervals. Spinners are tightening the screws. Australia is now looking for anything above 350; they will get this total if Maxwell stays on the crease. The match is beautifully set up on a flat surface.
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October 28, 2023, 08:02:43 AM
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Travis head is back in place of Green, I was hearing the news that it'd be Marnus Labuschagne who'd go out. Thankfully he's not, Stoinis and Green kept replacing each other in few matches but both of them are out of form, so this change sounds like a better idea.

If I need to make a choice between Green and Stoinis, then I would rather go for the latter as he is a more explosive batsman. But then, his lack of form is a serious concern. Today's match is between two arch-rivals and both of them need a win today. If New Zealand can get a win, then they are almost assured of a semi-final spot. Australia need the win just to keep their semi-final hopes alive. Technically, there are still possibilities that Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan may still quality for the semi-finals. But 99% probability is that it is going to be India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia (in that order).
There might be some history to it but it's loop sided rivalry and the Kiwis are bunnies of Australia and the latter hardly take this rivalry seriously, it's all giggle and statpadding for the Australians, similar to India vs Sri Lanka bilateral.

Green is yet to make his mark in ODI so Stoinis looks like a much better choice despite his poor form but after Travis Head's comeback, i am not sure if there is any free spot in the playing XI as Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh could fill the 5th-6th bowler responsibility.

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October 28, 2023, 08:14:20 AM
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Netherlands won the toss and decided to bat first against Bangladesh. If Bangladesh had won the toss then Bangladesh would also have decided to bat first. Both the teams have good reason to decide to bat. Compared to Netherlands, Bangladesh is a strong team in batting and bowling, so Bangladesh expected to bat first and throw a big target against Netherlands, but since Netherlands is not a strong team like Bangladesh, they thought more to give a target by batting first.

In ODI cricket, Bangladesh have won more matches by batting first and they have won fewer matches by batting later, so if they win the toss today, they would definitely get the opportunity to bat first. We are noticing two changes in Bangladesh XI. These two changes were definitely needed for Bangladesh as the two players who were fielded today did not perform well in the previous two matches.

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October 28, 2023, 08:23:20 AM
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The 26th match of the World Cup between Pakistan and South Africa ended with drama in the last few overs. In the end South Africa needed 5 runs and Pakistan needed just one wicket but ended up winning by 5 runs.
Pakistan's victory could have been assured in an earlier over if the umpire had allowed the LBW plea. Umpire's plea for LBW was not met, Pakistan took a review and the review showed that the ball hit the wicket but it was an umpire's call, which means that the team that will go for the decision will definitely be lucky. That one decision alone made Pakistan lose this match. Pakistan out of the World Cup tournament (still a possibility but the equation is very difficult).
Pakistan have been coming back in the tournaments but unfortunately couldn't even comeback. Pakistan has been doing miracles since many years, South Africa has been at the receiving end since 1999. But luck would not always favour you if you leave things on luck everytime. Throughout the tournament Pakistan literally yelling at our poor batting after No.5 Against India, Against Australia, and Even today Out lower order had not been contributing.

 After 5 wickets all batsman look like they are in kind of a confusion whether to attack or defend. Sending Iftikhar out before Saud Shakeel was also a tactical blunder.  Only Iftikhar is the guy who can hit cleanly but he is miserable against spin bowling and he was sent to bat out 30 overs. At the end We were 15-20 short, had we batted 3.5 overs and taken singles only we would have those additional runs. Too many dot balls and failure in rotation of strike. There is a long list of what Pakistan went wrong




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October 28, 2023, 08:34:35 AM
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Netherlands won the toss and decided to bat first against Bangladesh. If Bangladesh had won the toss then Bangladesh would also have decided to bat first. Both the teams have good reason to decide to bat. Compared to Netherlands, Bangladesh is a strong team in batting and bowling, so Bangladesh expected to bat first and throw a big target against Netherlands, but since Netherlands is not a strong team like Bangladesh, they thought more to give a target by batting first.

In ODI cricket, Bangladesh have won more matches by batting first and they have won fewer matches by batting later, so if they win the toss today, they would definitely get the opportunity to bat first. We are noticing two changes in Bangladesh XI. These two changes were definitely needed for Bangladesh as the two players who were fielded today did not perform well in the previous two matches.

This should be an easy match for the Bangladesh team if they can bowl out the Netherlands batter within 250 runs. The Netherlands does not have a strong batting lineup but has some good bowlers. Bangladesh should have bowlers if they can take wickets within the first 10 overs then they would be able to create pressure on the Netherlands batter. That will directly help Bangladesh in reducing the run rate which will benefit them when they come to bat. This is the first match in the tournament that is being played in Eden Gardens and the Bangladesh team would have good support from the spectators which can help them.

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October 28, 2023, 08:53:02 AM
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First Innings itself was entertaining today, match seemed go back and forth between two sides. At first it seemed like Aussies gonna cross 450, now they didn't even cross 400 and didn't play full overs either, middle order didn't play good.

I expected them to break SA's 428 today, which at one point seemed like it would be a walk in park.

Cummin's destroyed NZ for dropping the catch which costed them extra 20 runs, when you are already past 350+, it matter a lot.

Boult taking 3 wickets in his last over was somehow funny to me.







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October 28, 2023, 09:32:39 AM
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This should be an easy match for the Bangladesh team if they can bowl out the Netherlands batter within 250 runs. The Netherlands does not have a strong batting lineup but has some good bowlers. Bangladesh should have bowlers if they can take wickets within the first 10 overs then they would be able to create pressure on the Netherlands batter. That will directly help Bangladesh in reducing the run rate which will benefit them when they come to bat. This is the first match in the tournament that is being played in Eden Gardens and the Bangladesh team would have good support from the spectators which can help them.
Netherlands have won the toss, and elected to bat first. 2 changes for Bangladesh Hasan out and Taskin in and second change Nasum out and Mahedi In in Playing XI. A brilliant start for Bangladesh in Kolkata Both the Netherlands openers are out, Shoriful strike and picked wicket Netherlands are 4 in loss of wickets. Netherlands Current score is 63 in loss of 3 wickets in 14 Overs. W. Barresi scored 41 runs in 41 balls amazing batting performances and Ackermann is playing at 15 runs in 29 balls. If Netherlands is successfully scored 280 plus runs in this picth in Kolkata then they have good chance to win this match against Bangladesh.



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October 28, 2023, 10:01:39 AM
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Netherlands won the toss and decided to bat first against Bangladesh. If Bangladesh had won the toss then Bangladesh would also have decided to bat first. Both the teams have good reason to decide to bat. Compared to Netherlands, Bangladesh is a strong team in batting and bowling, so Bangladesh expected to bat first and throw a big target against Netherlands, but since Netherlands is not a strong team like Bangladesh, they thought more to give a target by batting first.

In ODI cricket, Bangladesh have won more matches by batting first and they have won fewer matches by batting later, so if they win the toss today, they would definitely get the opportunity to bat first. We are noticing two changes in Bangladesh XI. These two changes were definitely needed for Bangladesh as the two players who were fielded today did not perform well in the previous two matches.
The Netherlands won the toss and decided to bat first. In the beginning, the Netherlands were under good pressure. The Bangladeshi bowlers put pressure on the Netherlands through their bowling. Netherlands' current score is 76 for 4 with 18 overs to play. If Netherlands give a target of 280 runs to Bangladesh, then this match will become a little difficult for Bangladesh. So the bowlers of Bangladesh have to try to restrict Netherlands to 200 runs then this match will be much easier for Bangladesh. We all know about Bangladesh's batting disaster in 2023 World Cup. Although the bowling of Bangladesh is quite satisfactory, the batsmen are not able to bat well. In today's match the batsmen must bat well and win this match. How many runs can restrict the Netherlands to Bangladesh is now the thing to be seen

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October 28, 2023, 10:43:48 AM
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The New Zealand team is doing well in chasing the target. The required run rate is 8.22 and the current run rate is 7.1 with loss of 2 wickets in 21 overs. One big partnership and this game will go in favour of the New Zealand team. Adam Zampa magic is not working today for Australia. If Australia can break this partnership then it would be a nightmare for the New Zealand team.

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The New Zealand team is doing well in chasing the target. The required run rate is 8.22 and the current run rate is 7.1 with loss of 2 wickets in 21 overs. One big partnership and this game will go in favour of the New Zealand team. Adam Zampa magic is not working today for Australia. If Australia can break this partnership then it would be a nightmare for the New Zealand team.
New Zealand batsmen are scoring more runs than Australian batsmen. If the Australian bowlers fail to get Rachin Ravindra out then New Zealand will win today's match. The Australian bowlers are failing miserably to break the partnership.

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October 28, 2023, 12:00:10 PM
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New Zealand will win today's match



Yet it is a chance for New Zealand to win today's match. New Zealand players do well. 388 is not a big score for New Zealand. On the other hand, if the bowling line in Australia occurs miracles then it converts the favor of Australia.




On the other hand, Bangladesh has a positive impact on today's match. I hope Bangladesh will win today but it's not needed at this time. It's just a formula to play there.
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October 28, 2023, 12:19:09 PM
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The New Zealand team is doing well in chasing the target. The required run rate is 8.22 and the current run rate is 7.1 with loss of 2 wickets in 21 overs. One big partnership and this game will go in favour of the New Zealand team. Adam Zampa magic is not working today for Australia. If Australia can break this partnership then it would be a nightmare for the New Zealand team.

New Zealand need 83 runs from 48 balls to win. Despite setting a huge target of 389 runs, it became difficult for Australia to win this match. Because New Zealand batsmen are in very good form. Rachin Ravindra returned to the dressing room with 116 runs. He batted very responsibly. If Santner, who is now at the crease, can bat a bit better, New Zealand has a chance to win. 83 runs in 8 overs should not be too difficult a task for a team like New Zealand. New Zealand batsmen have to collect 10 runs in every over. But the Australian bowlers are experienced. They will try to win.

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The New Zealand team is doing well in chasing the target. The required run rate is 8.22 and the current run rate is 7.1 with loss of 2 wickets in 21 overs. One big partnership and this game will go in favour of the New Zealand team. Adam Zampa magic is not working today for Australia. If Australia can break this partnership then it would be a nightmare for the New Zealand team.
New Zealand need 83 runs from 48 balls to win. Despite setting a huge target of 389 runs, it became difficult for Australia to win this match. Because New Zealand batsmen are in very good form. Rachin Ravindra returned to the dressing room with 116 runs. He batted very responsibly. If Santner, who is now at the crease, can bat a bit better, New Zealand has a chance to win. 83 runs in 8 overs should not be too difficult a task for a team like New Zealand. New Zealand batsmen have to collect 10 runs in every over. But the Australian bowlers are experienced. They will try to win.

I don't think New Zealand will win. It cannot be said that I have seen very good batting from the New Zealand batsmen in today's match. Because no other batsmen can play big innings except Rachind Ravindra and Daryl Mitchell. After losing 7 wickets now it is very difficult for New Zealand to win this match. New Zealand managed to collect 331 runs in 45 overs. The New Zealand team still needs to collect 58 more runs to win in 30 balls. I don't think James Neesham and Matt Henry will be able to muster it. Australian bowlers bowling is very controlled.

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October 28, 2023, 12:44:01 PM
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It's a big challenge to win for New Zealand. It's not quite possible.
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The New Zealand team is doing well in chasing the target. The required run rate is 8.22 and the current run rate is 7.1 with loss of 2 wickets in 21 overs. One big partnership and this game will go in favour of the New Zealand team. Adam Zampa magic is not working today for Australia. If Australia can break this partnership then it would be a nightmare for the New Zealand team.
New Zealand need 83 runs from 48 balls to win. Despite setting a huge target of 389 runs, it became difficult for Australia to win this match. Because New Zealand batsmen are in very good form. Rachin Ravindra returned to the dressing room with 116 runs. He batted very responsibly. If Santner, who is now at the crease, can bat a bit better, New Zealand has a chance to win. 83 runs in 8 overs should not be too difficult a task for a team like New Zealand. New Zealand batsmen have to collect 10 runs in every over. But the Australian bowlers are experienced. They will try to win.
Now Australia vs New Zealand match is in critical moment. Right now, New Zealand team need 49 runs in 24 balls and losing 7 wickets. Current batsman on the pitch is J.Heesham and M.Henry. J.Neesham scored 37 runs in 28 balls and hit two 4s and two 6s with notout and M.Henry scored 9 runs in 8 balls and he hits one 4s. If New Zealand wants to win this game then they secure batsman and focus on collecting more runs without miss any balls or lose any wickets. Both teams have 50,50 perc possibility to win this game but at this moment it is very difficult who will win this match. Now let's see at the end of their New Zealand batting who will win this today tough match.


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