ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD!

[elevates]

Important match today! New Zealand takes on South Africa at Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium. New Zealand has to win today if they want to see themselves in the semifinals. They lost to Australia in their last match due to poor bowling. Toss would again play an important factor. The betting odds favour South Africa as they have lost only one game in the tournament whereas the New Zealand side has lost two games.

Betting Odds

New Zealand - 2.169
South Africa - 1.722

Can the New Zealand team win against South Africa?

[Jateng]

It was Bangladesh's sixth consecutive defeat against Pakistan at the famous Eden Garden ground in Kolkata. At the end of the day if we try to look at the picture of the whole team and how it compares with other teams in the whole World Cup. The games with the rest of the team except Afghanistan were random. The performance of the team in the top five in the Super League is too disappointing for the audience in their home country to accept it. Bangladesh's worst performance in the history of World Cup in this event.

After a win over Bangladesh by seven wickets, Pakistan moves to the fifth spot in the points table with six points and keeps themselves in contention for the semi-final race in this world cup. Fakhar Zaman bags Player of the Match in his comeback game for Pakistan with a brilliant 81 knock. Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan hunt to win the first ever ODI World Cup trophy is over as Bangladesh was knocked out after seven matches in World cup 2023.

[synchronym]

Today's South Africa vs New Zealand match will be a high voltage match. That's because South Africa and New Zealand both teams are in great form. Both teams will want to win today because they will secure semi-final by winning. In this South Africa vs New Zealand match I will place New Zealand ahead. We have seen the previous games of New Zealand, New Zealand is batting well. Today if New Zealand gets to bat first then if New Zealand can score 350 runs then New Zealand can win today's match. New Zealand can win if they bowl well and stop the South African batsmen from scoring runs with good bowling. Best wishes to both the teams, let's see which team wins and secures the semi-finals.

[Sithara007]

Today's South Africa vs New Zealand match will be a high voltage match. That's because South Africa and New Zealand both teams are in great form. Both teams will want to win today because they will secure semi-final by winning. In this South Africa vs New Zealand match I will place New Zealand ahead. We have seen the previous games of New Zealand, New Zealand is batting well. Today if New Zealand gets to bat first then if New Zealand can score 350 runs then New Zealand can win today's match. New Zealand can win if they bowl well and stop the South African batsmen from scoring runs with good bowling. Best wishes to both the teams, let's see which team wins and secures the semi-finals.

South Africa is in great form, but New Zealand is not. The latter have now lost two consecutive matches. During the initial rounds, they performed much better than what was expected from them, but they went down against India and Australia (perhaps two of the strongest teams in this tournament). And now they are against another strong team in the form of South Africa. The issue here for New Zealand is that it is a must win game for them. If they lose, then there is a good chance that they may not qualify for the semi-finals.

[jasonjm]

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

Only Liton Das and Mahmudullah are scoring runs for Bangladesh. There is hardly any contribution from anyone else. And they are losing matches primarily because of their batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job, but the batsmen never give them a good enough target to defend. Top order and middle order have been performing pathetically ever since the tournament started. The lower order on the other hand have been adding valuable runs. Once the tournament is over, the selectors need to do a complete revamp of the squad.

I think Bangladesh should focus on their domestic cricket structure; old horses are still their best bet. Their three senior players will be retiring in a few years, and they haven't prepared their replacements yet; we haven't seen a talent worthy of appreciation from Bangladesh in this World Cup. Their bowling is decent, but they should focus on their batting. In this World Cup, only Mahmudullah and Liton are scoring some runs, but they are also not very consistent. Youngsters are not that good when you compare them with other players in the World.
After the retirement of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur, and Mahmudullah, they will be in big trouble because their replacements are not ready. I think they will struggle as Sri Lanka did after the retirement of Sanga, Mahela and Dilshan. It took Sri Lankan cricket many years to make a team worthy of global competition.

[pakhitheboss]

Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

[Sithara007]

Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs. 

[Juggy777]

Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs.  

@Sithara007 New Zealand should not underestimate this SA side and they must play their best game if they want to have any chance of winning this match because this new SA won’t allow them to win this game easily. Furthermore I’m torn whom to support between these two team’s and honestly I would not advise wagering on either as it’s extremely difficult to predict as to how they’ll perform today under pressure.

[synchronym]

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

Only Liton Das and Mahmudullah are scoring runs for Bangladesh. There is hardly any contribution from anyone else. And they are losing matches primarily because of their batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job, but the batsmen never give them a good enough target to defend. Top order and middle order have been performing pathetically ever since the tournament started. The lower order on the other hand have been adding valuable runs. Once the tournament is over, the selectors need to do a complete revamp of the squad.

I think Bangladesh should focus on their domestic cricket structure; old horses are still their best bet. Their three senior players will be retiring in a few years, and they haven't prepared their replacements yet; we haven't seen a talent worthy of appreciation from Bangladesh in this World Cup. Their bowling is decent, but they should focus on their batting. In this World Cup, only Mahmudullah and Liton are scoring some runs, but they are also not very consistent. Youngsters are not that good when you compare them with other players in the World.
After the retirement of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur, and Mahmudullah, they will be in big trouble because their replacements are not ready. I think they will struggle as Sri Lanka did after the retirement of Sanga, Mahela and Dilshan. It took Sri Lankan cricket many years to make a team worthy of global competition.

Op I agree with you but apart from domestic cricket they need to focus more on batting. Bangladesh bowls fairly well but Bangladesh batting is very poor. First of all, there is a problem in Bangladesh selection. Because Bangladesh cricket president Nazmul Hasan Papon should select players from all over Bangladesh. If the best players from all over Bangladesh are selected and played in the Bangladesh national team without corruption. If they can perform well then they should be given a chance to play in the national team. If the Bangladesh team is organized like this, maybe our Bangladesh team can go further in the future. Bangladesh's batting woes in 2023 World Cup  We who are cricket fans would definitely want Bangladesh to return to good form after the batting problems they have faced. 2023 World Cup has become such a situation for Bangladesh that who knows whether Bangladesh will lose the eligibility to play in the upcoming championship.

[libert19]

South Africa is in great form, but New Zealand is not. The latter have now lost two consecutive matches. During the initial rounds, they performed much better than what was expected from them, but they went down against India and Australia (perhaps two of the strongest teams in this tournament). And now they are against another strong team in the form of South Africa. The issue here for New Zealand is that it is a must win game for them. If they lose, then there is a good chance that they may not qualify for the semi-finals.

Losing game does not mean you are not in a good form, in none of those two matches NZ were thrashed.

Anyway, toss just happened and NZ choose to bowl first. Let's see if SA puts up huge total again as they are batting first.

[Westinhome]

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs. 

The team South Africa had won all the team except the team Netherland.It was the strongest win of the Netherland to the top team of the table.So the coming Netherland and Afghanistan match going to be the nail biting.The New Zealand itself won all the game except the game against the India and Australia.The New Zealand and South Africa match will be the most expected for the most of the team around the world.Because the win to the South Africa is not the advantage to them.They already ion the top.The win for the New Zealand will help them to keep in the top four place.So today match was the important for the New Zealand compared to the team South Africa.

[Bureau]

Intresting! New Zealand belives that they will be able to chase the he target. They did the same with Australia but lost by 5 runs. If South Africa gets a good start today they would try to surpass 400 runs. Then it will not be easy for the New Zealand team to chase that big score.

The bowlers would have to get a couple of wickets within the first power play. That will restrict the South African team to not go after something big as a target. Still the Pune pitch is batter friendly it won't be that easy to get wickets unless the batter gives his wicket away.

[Cheema02]

Bangladesh cricket team is going through their worst period now, their performance is going down continuously in every match which is really disappointing for Bangladeshi cricket fans. Bangladesh is failing in every department, batting, bowling, fielding is bad condition of the whole team. Bangladesh cricket team after their poor performance in this World Cup and if their cricket board doesn't start thinking about how to handle this situation then more bad days are waiting for their cricket.

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

After the defeat against the Netherlands, I am sure that the Bangladesh team will not be able to win any more matches in this World Cup. The Bangladesh team is the weakest in this World Cup. The team lost the truck after a good performance against Afghanistan in the first match. We have seen very bad batting from the batsmen of Bangladesh team in every match. And since every pitch is batting friendly. So the team is not able to win any match due to batsmen's bad batting. Especially I will talk about the performance of top order players of Bangladesh. Tamim and Shanto can't do well in any match.

Look like Bangladesh team have some internally issue with the team feel like they are sleeping in world cup. Whaile Pakistan have also victory after 4 consecutive losses Mohammad Wasim bowling performance is amazing also picked 3 important wicktes by giving 32 runs in 8.1 overs. Haris Rauf is expensive at start of bowling but later he picked 2 wickets by giving 36 runs in 8 overs. Pakistan chase down the target of 205 runs in loss of 3 wickets in 32.3 overs. Fakhar Zaman batting performance is outstanding scored 81 runs in just 74 balls miss his well deserved century by 19 runs short.

[Littlemini]

Intresting! New Zealand belives that they will be able to chase the he target. They did the same with Australia but lost by 5 runs. If South Africa gets a good start today they would try to surpass 400 runs. Then it will not be easy for the New Zealand team to chase that big score.

The bowlers would have to get a couple of wickets within the first power play. That will restrict the South African team to not go after something big as a target. Still the Pune pitch is batter friendly it won't be that easy to get wickets unless the batter gives his wicket away.

New Zealand decided to bowl first to give the toss. Both teams are fighting in the semi-final match. South Africa is on 10 points with 5 wins from 6 six matches. New Zealand has 8 points with 4 wins in 6 matches. Great performance South Africa De Cock scored 57 off 75 balls. De Kock and Bandosen formed a great partnership between them. 136 runs one wicket in 26 overs. New Zealand need to improve their bowling line. If South Africa can score 380 runs, it will not be easy for New Zealand. Good luck to both teams. Who will be ahead in their semi-final fight?

[UmerIdrees]

The ICC ranking has been updated after yesterday's match. But in this time, Pakistan couldn’t achieve the first position in the ODI ranking but the players of Pakistan achieved the ranking, Babar Azam is the no.1 ODI batsman and Shaheen Shah Afridi also is at the top in the ranking of ODI bowling, and Shaheen Shah Afridi also made a new World Cup which is the fastest 100 wickets in ODI. Babar Azam and Shaheen Shah Afridi are are at the top in the ICC ODI ranking, but Pakistan doesn’t have a good all-rounder so Pakistan doesn’t have any all-rounder in the top 10 on ranking.

[JSRAW]

South Africa are following its well tested strategy. Bat carefully for 35 overs and save wickets then try to unleash the brutal attack in the last phase of the inning, so far in this World Cup they have seen ridiculous success with this template and it looks like today they are all set to repeat the same. Spectators won't mind some fireworks.

If SA manage to put another 350 total then I am not sure if Kiwis could chased it down successfully despite their brave effort against Australia. Saying this because Proteas bowlers are performing quite well when defending big totals, almost dominating the opponent batters.

[Sithara007]

South Africa are following its well tested strategy. Bat carefully for 35 overs and save wickets then try to unleash the brutal attack in the last phase of the inning, so far in this World Cup they have seen ridiculous success with this template and it looks like today they are all set to repeat the same. Spectators won't mind some fireworks.

If SA manage to put another 350 total then I am not sure if Kiwis could chased it down successfully despite their brave effort against Australia. Saying this because Proteas bowlers are performing quite well when defending big totals, almost dominating the opponent batters.

Something above 350 is very much possible. South Africa are at 170/1 after 32 overs. If they can score 10 runs per over, then they can get to 350. The important thing to remember here is that South Africa has lost only one wicket till now. De Kock and vd Dussen are at crease, while power-hitters such as Markram, Klaassen and Miller are yet to come. The lowest possible total as of now is around 350, but it can go up to 380. Even at 350, the possibility of a New Zealand win decreases to around 20%. And at 380, it is 0%.

[jasonjm]

South Africa are following its well tested strategy. Bat carefully for 35 overs and save wickets then try to unleash the brutal attack in the last phase of the inning, so far in this World Cup they have seen ridiculous success with this template and it looks like today they are all set to repeat the same. Spectators won't mind some fireworks.

If SA manage to put another 350 total then I am not sure if Kiwis could chased it down successfully despite their brave effort against Australia. Saying this because Proteas bowlers are performing quite well when defending big totals, almost dominating the opponent batters.

So far so good from South Africa; their strategy to hold wicket at the start is working, and they are now gradually increasing their run rate. Going over 5 runs per over at the moment, and in the last few overs, they have increased their scoring rate. From here, they will be looking to score over 350 runs. 350 will be a difficult target to chase for any team against a South African bowling attack.
Conway, Ravindra and Mitchel will be the key wickets for SA if they want to win this match with ease. The decision of choosing to field first and winning the toss is not favouring New Zealand at the moment. Let's see if their batsmen justify this decision under the lights.

[libert19]

36 overs and SA at 205-1, De Kock makes 100 once again, he's been in great form, they should easily cross 300+. I wonder why Latham choose to bowl when even commentary guys were saying SA hasn't been good at chasing.

[ZeshanRandhawa]

South Africa are following its well tested strategy. Bat carefully for 35 overs and save wickets then try to unleash the brutal attack in the last phase of the inning, so far in this World Cup they have seen ridiculous success with this template and it looks like today they are all set to repeat the same. Spectators won't mind some fireworks.

If SA manage to put another 350 total then I am not sure if Kiwis could chased it down successfully despite their brave effort against Australia. Saying this because Proteas bowlers are performing quite well when defending big totals, almost dominating the opponent batters.

Records broken by Quinton De Kock today  4th Century in world cup 2023 and De Kock is 1st South African to score 500 runs in a world cup edition. South Africa lost ony 2 wickets 44 over completed and have chance to score 360 + runs on this ground. South Africa at present score 290 runs  pwer hitter David Miller is on carees and van de Dussen is playing 130*. South Africa smashed evey NewZealand bowlers expect trent boult. Brilliant batting by van de Dussen hitting powerful sixes, South Africa aim to cross 360 + total for NewZealand.