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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular.
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March 06, 2024, 07:52:23 PM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. We should not picture this as a problem erupted from the gambling platforms, for them to be able to provide the gamblers with a free service without requesting for kyc from the start is only an indication for them on being loyal and considerate and this shouldn't be taken for granted by gamblers anytime they make up with their decision on requesting for kyc, we already know that they are such they demands on kyc and we should also be in preparedness towards providing them with every necessary requirred information.
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March 06, 2024, 07:56:05 PM |
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If a casino tries to keep their customers in the dark without clear information about ToS and plays an excuse game, the reputation of that casino is already in doubt. How transparent a casino is should be understood in advance. Gamblers are also responsible to read the ToS properly at the time of registration in any casino so that they do not face any problem with KYC in future.
Sometimes the problem doesn't start with reading the casino TOS at the time of registration; most times it all starts when the user registers a KYC for those that enable it and is having a good time with the casino, just after they have been able to lure a large number of people with their friendly TOS. Then they will go ahead and make some amendments without properly informing the customers, unless those who visit TOS on a regular basis will be able to notice the change; if not, you will just realise that you have violated a policy that was never even there in the first place until they find a good reason to consolidate your funds in their casino. That's when they will do that, and when you ask a question, they will refer you to a new policy you know nothing about.
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March 07, 2024, 02:02:15 AM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. We should not picture this as a problem erupted from the gambling platforms, for them to be able to provide the gamblers with a free service without requesting for kyc from the start is only an indication for them on being loyal and considerate and this shouldn't be taken for granted by gamblers anytime they make up with their decision on requesting for kyc, we already know that they are such they demands on kyc and we should also be in preparedness towards providing them with every necessary requirred information. i find it wrong because if the casino is Honest enough to provide better services then they must indicate the need of KYC from the start and now when the players started to deposit and win and when there is a need to take their money for withdrawal then they will bring burden asking for KYC? that is unethical way of dealing with players and an obvious way of fooling if not cheating they players. Imagine they will allow you to deposit without any question but after winning they will implement such verification? that is for me a complete stupidity.
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March 07, 2024, 02:18:43 AM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. We should not picture this as a problem erupted from the gambling platforms, for them to be able to provide the gamblers with a free service without requesting for kyc from the start is only an indication for them on being loyal and considerate and this shouldn't be taken for granted by gamblers anytime they make up with their decision on requesting for kyc, we already know that they are such they demands on kyc and we should also be in preparedness towards providing them with every necessary requirred information. i find it wrong because if the casino is Honest enough to provide better services then they must indicate the need of KYC from the start and now when the players started to deposit and win and when there is a need to take their money for withdrawal then they will bring burden asking for KYC? that is unethical way of dealing with players and an obvious way of fooling if not cheating they players. Imagine they will allow you to deposit without any question but after winning they will implement such verification? that is for me a complete stupidity. Casino sites allow new customers to deposit without KYC when they make a new account on their site, as this allows new customers to have a new experience gambling on the site. and when they win something big or want to withdraw their deposit amounts then they are asked for kyc verification because then they are required to do it. This is a strategy of casino sites because customers will not want to use the site if they are asked for kyc upon account opening.
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March 07, 2024, 07:25:04 AM Last edit: March 07, 2024, 07:42:10 AM by Vladv26 |
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From my experience, this is a pretty standard rule and it's actually common for every fiat casino in my country to do this. You're not required a KYC to register your account, deposit and wager up to a certain amount but as soon as you surpass the amount or try to make a withdrawal, KYC is mandatory and in addition they also have to verify your payment method at a certain point. As long as everything is mentioned in the ToS at the point of your registration, I don't find anything shady in doing all of this. Sure, it might not see fair but casinos are just doing their job, to attract new customers and take their money, that's why they use all this kind of the gimmicks. It's your job as a player, to do your research about the casino, their practices, their rules and regulations, their ToS before registering and depositing your own money.
There is not much you can do if a casino changes their ToS after you've registered your account and made a deposit. Online crypto casino are still unregulated, therefore it'll be hard to make a complain about them and get your money back.Usually, if the casino is trusted they won't make any major changes to their ToS that affect you and even if they do, they'll notice you and make you agree to the new terms.
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March 07, 2024, 08:26:14 AM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. i do get the logic behind casinos’ ability to change their TOS whenever necessary a new situation may erupt and they are required to create a whole new subsection of their TOS because the situation was not precedented however i do think some casinos use this too much for their advantages i have seen some players who could withdraw just fine but as soon as they started getting bigger money, the casinos’ tos change and i dont think a casino will change their tos for one person but rather that one person is probably going to be the standard of change as for sure more people are going to be next
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March 07, 2024, 08:39:58 AM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. i do get the logic behind casinos’ ability to change their TOS whenever necessary a new situation may erupt and they are required to create a whole new subsection of their TOS because the situation was not precedented however i do think some casinos use this too much for their advantages i have seen some players who could withdraw just fine but as soon as they started getting bigger money, the casinos’ tos change and i dont think a casino will change their tos for one person but rather that one person is probably going to be the standard of change as for sure more people are going to be next A gambling casino can never change their terms of service just because of one player, or in order to hurt or dupe one player, except the casino is a scam casino. What I know casinos do or will do is, incase an issue arises with a player, and the issue is a very serious one and something they possibly failed or forgot to make mention of in their terms of service or condition, they will find a way to resolve such issue amicably with the player, and after the issue has been resolved, they can then proceed to including that in their terms of service so as to avoid future occurrence of same situation. If a player on more are winning way more than the casino expected or wanted, they can always limit such players rather than editing their terms of service just to hurt this set of players. But then, like I've said before, I scam casino can still engage in constant update of their terms of service at any time they are trying to scam a player, like we have seen here in the past where a casino while trying to scam a customer, will quietly edit their terms of service to favor them in such situation as they were with the player, so that in the end, other people will blame the player for not first reading the terms of service before engaging the casino in gambling - I can't remember the name of this casino but then, they were later caught and exposed.
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March 07, 2024, 09:12:01 AM |
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. Terms and conditions are important when signing up to work in a company, so I implore everyone to read it on registering and also on the subsequent updates. But truthfully, the update could be so annoying, a lot of the things you never agreed upon when you started could be updated against you. And to make matters worse, the updates could be many in a single year. Although this too many updates I experience is not with a casino, I am using a company now that does updates of the terms and conditions at least 15 times in a single year, is that not too much? If a casino happens to be like that, it could be annoying to be reading all the updates, especially if it is such that would not give the gambler the opportunity to go straight to the updated part of the entire terms and conditions. I have seen enough, some would give you the clue of the update through summary, some will give you the clue of the part and also give you the opportunity to go straight to the updated part via a link without any stress, but others will just tell you they've updated their terms and condition which will make it so difficult for you to even locate it easily unless you read all parts. The latter style is the worst and any company doing that are not for any good and I try my best to excuse myself from them immediately. If not, it will surprise you that they will point you to a certain term and condition that is alien to you. This is why you would open an account with no-KYC casinos but suddenly because you are good, they would now ask you for the KYC and even point you to the terms and conditions supporting it. Is that not annoying?
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March 07, 2024, 09:15:18 AM |
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If you read my previous posts you can see that i don`t afraid KYC. I want to have an opportunity to KYC when the gambler want. If i need money right now and i haven`t KYC yet - it take some money, mostly at least one day. If i can ask KYC myself - i don`t have such problems. And don`t tell me about ToS. There are always the same thing - "The casino can KYC your any moment" with some small difference in text. I don`t see "The gambler can ask KYC himself" their.
Me too neither but it would be always best that there should be no KYC because this is where we do prefer on since we are dealing with crypto space then everything should really be that anonymous. There should be no asking about those documents and verification.If you have win up a particular big amount and as long it was hit up on a fair way then they should release it right away wtihout questions asked. Just like on what been mentioned above that since there would really be those expecting changes like regulation then these businesses having no choice but to comply with those things which it is true that they dont have no choice. For us users if you dont like KYC then you could be able to skip out and look for another place which we know that we do have tons of sites on which you can be able to choose upon. For me there is no difference is there some KYC or no, it i KYC myself. I`ve got several times problems that casino asked KYC when i won big enough sum and decided to withdraw it. They paid it, but KYC took from several hours up to 3 days in different cases. Once i was on the vacation and got an opportunity to get docs only next day. It isn`t awful problem usually, but i don`t like such situations.
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If you read my previous posts you can see that i don`t afraid KYC. I want to have an opportunity to KYC when the gambler want. If i need money right now and i haven`t KYC yet - it take some money, mostly at least one day. If i can ask KYC myself - i don`t have such problems. And don`t tell me about ToS. There are always the same thing - "The casino can KYC your any moment" with some small difference in text. I don`t see "The gambler can ask KYC himself" their.
Me too neither but it would be always best that there should be no KYC because this is where we do prefer on since we are dealing with crypto space then everything should really be that anonymous. There should be no asking about those documents and verification.If you have win up a particular big amount and as long it was hit up on a fair way then they should release it right away wtihout questions asked. Just like on what been mentioned above that since there would really be those expecting changes like regulation then these businesses having no choice but to comply with those things which it is true that they dont have no choice. For us users if you dont like KYC then you could be able to skip out and look for another place which we know that we do have tons of sites on which you can be able to choose upon. For me there is no difference is there some KYC or no, it i KYC myself. I`ve got several times problems that casino asked KYC when i won big enough sum and decided to withdraw it. They paid it, but KYC took from several hours up to 3 days in different cases. Once i was on the vacation and got an opportunity to get docs only next day. It isn`t awful problem usually, but i don`t like such situations. If you do hate up KYC then one of the important things that you should really be needing to consider on the time that you would really be playing on a site on which you should really be reading up their TOS. Well, its not something new that there would be casinos or platforms that would alter out their TOS whenever there are some issues been raised but it would really be that completely depending on what site that you are really dealing off with on which we do know that there are platforms which are honest and there are ones who arent. This is why it would really be always important that you should really be that dealing up with a legit site and not making yourself that too impulsive on trying out to make deposits in a hurry. It doesnt hurt nor cost you an arm and leg when it comes to making up some research and trying out to verify on everything before you would be making out such deposit.
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If a casino tries to keep their customers in the dark without clear information about ToS and plays an excuse game, the reputation of that casino is already in doubt. How transparent a casino is should be understood in advance. Gamblers are also responsible to read the ToS properly at the time of registration in any casino so that they do not face any problem with KYC in future.
Sometimes the problem doesn't start with reading the casino TOS at the time of registration; most times it all starts when the user registers a KYC for those that enable it and is having a good time with the casino, just after they have been able to lure a large number of people with their friendly TOS. Then they will go ahead and make some amendments without properly informing the customers, unless those who visit TOS on a regular basis will be able to notice the change; if not, you will just realise that you have violated a policy that was never even there in the first place until they find a good reason to consolidate your funds in their casino. That's when they will do that, and when you ask a question, they will refer you to a new policy you know nothing about. Yeah. Many times gamblers face problems due to reasons that they are not aware of at the time of registration. Casinos that change policy without informing their customers cannot be transparent in any way. For which gamblers have to be most careful in choosing a casino. Because reputable casinos will inform their customers if they make any changes to their policy, so that there is no confusion among customers. But the casinos we are talking about, these casinos always keep their customers on the dark side so that they can withhold the funds of the profitable customers using various excuses from time to time. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the gamblers to read the T&C carefully while registering, and research the reputation of the casino to avoid such problems. .
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. We should not picture this as a problem erupted from the gambling platforms, for them to be able to provide the gamblers with a free service without requesting for kyc from the start is only an indication for them on being loyal and considerate and this shouldn't be taken for granted by gamblers anytime they make up with their decision on requesting for kyc, we already know that they are such they demands on kyc and we should also be in preparedness towards providing them with every necessary requirred information. On this basis, it would be logical to choose well-known casinos whose terms of use are clear. You should not trust everything that is promoted. Almost all reliable gambling platforms have a license and rules to follow. It is not easy to build a good reputation easily in this field. Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. i do get the logic behind casinos’ ability to change their TOS whenever necessary a new situation may erupt and they are required to create a whole new subsection of their TOS because the situation was not precedented however i do think some casinos use this too much for their advantages i have seen some players who could withdraw just fine but as soon as they started getting bigger money, the casinos’ tos change and i dont think a casino will change their tos for one person but rather that one person is probably going to be the standard of change as for sure more people are going to be next For this reason, you do not find that there are many projects claiming to be casinos without Kyc, because it is not possible to claim that these measures are not taken in the permanent term. There is almost no way to deal with any suspicion other than imposing procedures. It is self-evident not to believe any platform that claims this, but at the same time it is important that this be clearly stated in the TOS and any update to it must be notified to users some time in advance.
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If a casino tries to keep their customers in the dark without clear information about ToS and plays an excuse game, the reputation of that casino is already in doubt. How transparent a casino is should be understood in advance. Gamblers are also responsible to read the ToS properly at the time of registration in any casino so that they do not face any problem with KYC in future.
Sometimes the problem doesn't start with reading the casino TOS at the time of registration; most times it all starts when the user registers a KYC for those that enable it and is having a good time with the casino, just after they have been able to lure a large number of people with their friendly TOS. Then they will go ahead and make some amendments without properly informing the customers, unless those who visit TOS on a regular basis will be able to notice the change; if not, you will just realise that you have violated a policy that was never even there in the first place until they find a good reason to consolidate your funds in their casino. That's when they will do that, and when you ask a question, they will refer you to a new policy you know nothing about. Yeah. Many times gamblers face problems due to reasons that they are not aware of at the time of registration. Casinos that change policy without informing their customers cannot be transparent in any way. For which gamblers have to be most careful in choosing a casino. Because reputable casinos will inform their customers if they make any changes to their policy, so that there is no confusion among customers. But the casinos we are talking about, these casinos always keep their customers on the dark side so that they can withhold the funds of the profitable customers using various excuses from time to time. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the gamblers to read the T&C carefully while registering, and research the reputation of the casino to avoid such problems. . This is the truth, I have always recommended that the old casinos, or those that have the best reputation, are the most reliable, it is very delicate that Some casinos execute actions of To changes , without informing the users if they accept it or not, I think I am very delicate about that part, now a judge who makes any Claim must read his texts very well to base his defense on it against any eventuality that is not agreed upon and that can make the difference, the problem is that yes The rules change a lot, yours, how can you defend yourself? In the same way, here in the forum there are many opinions to see what casino we are going to think About, because just by reviewing your thread Ann we will quickly realize, why there are questions , congratulations or any other type of event that happens. Sometimes your player chooses another casino that does not have such a good reputation because he believes that he will get more money there, and what he achieves is that he loses or his money is stolen, so when it comes to money you should be veryJealous and put the money in trustworthy sites, it is better to lose in a game system that is authentic and that the casino is honest and not win in a dark casino and it is a problem to withdraw, because you will probably never be able to withdraw, that has happened, especially in casinos that They are not registered in the forum nor do they have Ann threads but rather they are Found through simple searches on Google. When I was a newbie, unfortunately I fell into fraudulent Casinos twice, it's not like I lost much, but it's annoying to lose money Because it's stolen from you.
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. I do not think that TOS saying that TOS can be changed at any time, without prior notification or without the opportunity for the customer to withdraw or somehowelse opt-out of the services is a valid legal tool. It will fall into the category of abusive clauses in most jurisdictions, so if that is what a site is doing, they are opening themselves to legal action.
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There is not much you can do if a casino changes their ToS after you've registered your account and made a deposit. Online crypto casino are still unregulated, therefore it'll be hard to make a complain about them and get your money back.Usually, if the casino is trusted they won't make any major changes to their ToS that affect you and even if they do, they'll notice you and make you agree to the new terms.
The casinos would have even stated clearly that their ToS is subject to review and change, which means at any point in time, they can make decision on changing anything that they see needed attention to and implement something different or new, the reason for this is not to disappoint the gamblers, but comes in place when they are building up upon their security networks in other not to render then to vulnerability for attack as well as protecting the interest of the users as also against hackers from taking hold of their account.
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For me there is no difference is there some KYC or no, it i KYC myself. I`ve got several times problems that casino asked KYC when i won big enough sum and decided to withdraw it. They paid it, but KYC took from several hours up to 3 days in different cases. Once i was on the vacation and got an opportunity to get docs only next day. It isn`t awful problem usually, but i don`t like such situations.
If you do hate up KYC then one of the important things that you should really be needing to consider on the time that you would really be playing on a site on which you should really be reading up their TOS. Well, its not something new that there would be casinos or platforms that would alter out their TOS whenever there are some issues been raised but it would really be that completely depending on what site that you are really dealing off with on which we do know that there are platforms which are honest and there are ones who arent. This is why it would really be always important that you should really be that dealing up with a legit site and not making yourself that too impulsive on trying out to make deposits in a hurry. It doesnt hurt nor cost you an arm and leg when it comes to making up some research and trying out to verify on everything before you would be making out such deposit. Do you still read what i`m talking about? I several times told that i have no problem with KYC. Why i have to hate it? And i told several times that in ToS there are the the one text with small differs. And it YOU read the ToS in different casino, you can find that the text everywhere will be something about "casino can KYC you any moment they decide".
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Are you sure it's not mentioned on their ToS, or you didn't/forgot to read the updated ToS when they required KYC after some time? Because casinos should be transparent with their ToS since it's their defense legally especially when they ban their users. If it's not on their ToS then asked KYC, then again, they deserve negative reputation on any platform as well as negative tag in this forum.
If it's not on their ToS, they can update the TOS since the same TOS allows them to make appropriate modifications and updates whenever necessary. Do you know users who review the terms of use, especially if they use the service without problems? It has become an open trick: platforms offer users tempting and attractive terms of use during launch. Users use the platform for a relatively long time without problems until they are satisfied with the quality of service. Then suddenly problems begin under the pretext of suspicion of possibly tampering with the system or attempting to deceive. All of them are legitimate arguments, and on the basis of them, the argument can be given for updating the TOS. I am here offering my opinion in general, and I do not have specific information about Bitser’s situation in particular. I do not think that TOS saying that TOS can be changed at any time, without prior notification or without the opportunity for the customer to withdraw or somehowelse opt-out of the services is a valid legal tool. It will fall into the category of abusive clauses in most jurisdictions, so if that is what a site is doing, they are opening themselves to legal action. I see this as a moral obligation rather than an obligation under the law. It has become self-evident to expect that any services website has the absolute and sole authority to make updates to the terms of use, whether by amendment or modification, even if this is not stipulated in the TOS. But we all know that this can be easily deceived because the site can make updates without an explicit announcement, that is, for example, the advertisement can be published on an unknown site or on one of the site’s inactive channels. Or the updates are made and put into effect in a short period of time, so that users do not have the opportunity to decide whether the updates meet their capabilities or not.
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For me there is no difference is there some KYC or no, it i KYC myself. I`ve got several times problems that casino asked KYC when i won big enough sum and decided to withdraw it. They paid it, but KYC took from several hours up to 3 days in different cases. Once i was on the vacation and got an opportunity to get docs only next day. It isn`t awful problem usually, but i don`t like such situations.
If you do hate up KYC then one of the important things that you should really be needing to consider on the time that you would really be playing on a site on which you should really be reading up their TOS. Well, its not something new that there would be casinos or platforms that would alter out their TOS whenever there are some issues been raised but it would really be that completely depending on what site that you are really dealing off with on which we do know that there are platforms which are honest and there are ones who arent. This is why it would really be always important that you should really be that dealing up with a legit site and not making yourself that too impulsive on trying out to make deposits in a hurry. It doesnt hurt nor cost you an arm and leg when it comes to making up some research and trying out to verify on everything before you would be making out such deposit. Do you still read what i`m talking about? I several times told that i have no problem with KYC. Why i have to hate it? And i told several times that in ToS there are the the one text with small differs. And it YOU read the ToS in different casino, you can find that the text everywhere will be something about "casino can KYC you any moment they decide". Thats what casino would really be having that kind of edge with that mentioned line that they do have the rights on asking some KYC if its needed. If it just fine to comply some KYC then its good which there would be no issues but there are people who are really that skeptical on doing such thing and this is why whenever they do encounter issues then they do really got dismayed on how the casinos been asking for such verification. Well, there's nothing we can do about it on the time that they would really be asking out such requirement before you could really be able to withdraw. This is why its always important into those newbie gamblers that reading up sites terms and conditions is a must so that they wont really get shocked on the time that they would really be facing up some potential issues or problems which might cause for some withdrawal hold up or lock or pending. You wont really be having no choice actually.
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I see this as a moral obligation rather than an obligation under the law. It has become self-evident to expect that any services website has the absolute and sole authority to make updates to the terms of use, whether by amendment or modification, even if this is not stipulated in the TOS.
It is under their legal obligation, ToS is their legal rights and they should do it ethical/proper way. Most big companies do this and do always make it in advance, notifying its users few days before it take effect because it's the right of their users to agreed the new terms and so its users can continue or stop using their service. Although this is the right way, many services like casinos failed to do it for obvious reasons, deceive their users through their terms of service. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F2nVZFDP%2FScreenshot-2024-03-09-06-53-19-688-com-brave-browser-edit.jpg&t=665&c=6N4mp7EWiI1FDA)
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