2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets!

[baeva]

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

My view is opposite. Should Trump be elected he would fleece us of all our crypto as it his nature to betray people who believe in his promises. He may be on the ball when gives promisses at public but  in the reality most of them remain ether not enacted and broken  or compromised ^{(crypto is his previous  Mexico's wall, where it is?)}. I don't trust his crypto-promise and besides of this crypto is nothing compared with the chasm between the haves and the have-nots  which would wait America should he be elected.

Yep, believing him on this makes no sense.

If I had to vote in the USA, I would not decide my vote simply because of the policy they seem likely to implement regarding cryptocurrencies. It also looks like if Kamala wins she would appoint Mark Cuban as head of the SEC, which would be good for us too I think.

I think the crypto sphere is really the last thing they think about and will care about. Unless Trump is just the first to talk about it and get the support of the crypto community. I think if Kamala had done it first, the crypto community would be mostly in favour of her. Kamala is only giving indirect signs that nothing bad is going to happen, but I don't see anything positive either

[Hispo]

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

For now, yes, because there are several things he promised to the crypto world, especially in America, if he is elected president. But don't be too happy about it, because he is an opportunist and a politician, meaning what he says today may be the opposite of what he does in the future, so don't expect too much from him and let's just see if he can realize his promise or not.

One just needs to take a look at his previous administration to know what it is likely to happen in the case he manages to get into the white house again, though. If there is one promise he has managed to keep is tax cuts for the rich, so if I had to guess I would say all he will do is cutting taxes on realized gains for people who invest in Bitcoin and other crypto-assets, besides that he won't do anything to power decentralization or adoption of Bitcoin. Economically speaking, Trump is a dinosaur, he promotes gold and silver coins and he has only started to talk about Bitcoin in this election cycle and because he started to sell NTFs, otherwise he would have never touched the topic.
Also, I have read some rumors the Harris campaign would be willing to distance itself from the Biden policy on Bitcoin and PoW mining, in order to secure part of the votes coming from Bitcoin holders like us. Only time will tell.

[TwitchySeal]

You seem confused. What does Kamala had to do with ripple lawsuit? SEC is an independent agency,...

Kamala Harris is the sitting vice president in the current administration. They appointed Gensler and could have appointed someone else if they wanted the prosecution of Ripple to stop.

The criticism for appointing Gensler is fair. But firing the head of an independent agency because you want a specific lawsuit or prosecution or investigation to stop would be unethical.  Only Trump and Nixon have have done something like that in modern history.

And yet, they didn't do anything. They just let the lawsuit and the prosecution go on.

Which means ...

[bbc.reporter]

However, I can clearly say Kamala is losing big big points based on this Hurricane Milton situation. While I know she is not the president and while I know what is happening and the help ends up being based on what congress and senate passes and not based on even just the president so she could have been president and all she would have rights to do would be send federal help whatever they have as emergency, that's it nothing more.

Congress and the Senate propose and create bills that might become laws. They are the legislative department. The movements actions of the president, the vice president, his cabinet and his cabinet's people do not depend on the legislative department. The executive department can issue executive orders.

Also, what should Kamala do? Should she promise that she will do a better job than the present administration? But this is also her administration hehehehehehee.



In any case, if Trump cannot maintain the pump on his ratings until November, I am afraid Kamala has some time to pump her own ratings.

[BlackBoss_]

Also, what should Kamala do? Should she promise that she will do a better job than the present administration? But this is also her administration hehehehehehee.

In any case, if Trump cannot maintain the pump on his ratings until November, I am afraid Kamala has some time to pump her own ratings.

She ask US people to turn the page while in the last 3 and a half years, Biden and she have been in administration. She doesn't know how stupid that sentence means "Turning the page from Democratic Party to Republic Party" is probably what she didn't want to imply, but reality is like that. People are disappointed with the current party and administration so turning the page to the opposite party is their favorite choice now.

Let's see how she will end her President Election campaign.

After 20 years with Kamala's vision, San Francisco and California were destroyed.

[o48o]

Also, what should Kamala do? Should she promise that she will do a better job than the present administration? But this is also her administration hehehehehehee.

In any case, if Trump cannot maintain the pump on his ratings until November, I am afraid Kamala has some time to pump her own ratings.
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She ask US people to turn the page while in the last 3 and a half years, Biden and she have been in administration. She doesn't know how stupid that sentence means "Turning the page from Democratic Party to Republic Party" is probably what she didn't want to imply, but reality is like that. People are disappointed with the current party and administration so turning the page to the opposite party is their favorite choice now.

Let's see how she will end her President Election campaign.

After 20 years with Kamala's vision, San Francisco and California were destroyed.
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Ok, so, what you guys are essentially saying, is that if Trump gets chosen, JD Vance is the one who is pulling the strings and making decisions, being responsible of anything that administration seemingly does. Anyone else would have thought that Kamala's job was to act in place of the president, in case of president dying, but what does reality have to do with any of this.

Imagine that. I didn't know that Pence was responsible of what his administration did. I guess you should vote for Pence then.

Main psychological reason why there are as many Trump voters, is that uneducated voters are easy pray. They feel unseen and unheard, so the current mascot represents them and what they could be.

Instead growing as a person, fascists have always blamed minority groups for their problems, because they feel that by blaming others, they can identify themselves as majority.  This makes themselves feel included, but sadly that doesn't fill their need to be seen, heard or respected, but in fact they get to be responsible of their actions and often end up in jail for them, because it turns out to be that ultimately others weren't to blame for their problems.

This is easy psychological trick that is used to exploit dense maga-hats by their chosen leaders. This is why the majority of trump voters are uneducated white young men. They wish they wouldn't need to obey laws either, and identify with trump.

Also it's hilarious that you blame Biden Kamala, for how some state or city is doing, when even Trump seems to think that how ever states decide govern themselves, or their laws should be their own business and own responsibility.

[Wakate]

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

For now, yes, because there are several things he promised to the crypto world, especially in America, if he is elected president. But don't be too happy about it, because he is an opportunist and a politician, meaning what he says today may be the opposite of what he does in the future, so don't expect too much from him and let's just see if he can realize his promise or not.

Right form time when Donald Trump was the president, he has been for focus and never afraid to execute what's in his mind. He talk and he's confident not challenge anyone which has been seen as a form of racism. He doesn't care about the repercussion of his words. We don't really know what he will be up to this time around but it is good we expect to see the price of Bitcoin doing well if he's eventually elected as the president. Donald Trump is a kind of racist but  that's left to people that think he is one. He is the only person I know that is confident enough to face anybody and make sure that the United States economy recovers as soon as possible after he has been the president.

[Haunebu]

Good to hear that Harris is probably leading in Pennsylvania which is the most important swing state primarily due to the abortion issue. Honestly, she is probably being underestimated in the polls and her numbers might be higher.

He is the only person I know that is confident enough to face anybody and make sure that the United States economy recovers as soon as possible after he has been the president.

This has to be one of the dumbest statements that I have ever read in my entire life. The dude was one of the worst presidents in US history. Think!

[bitgolden]

If you liked the bull run we have seen so far, you liked Biden and of course this means you liked Kamala. Meaning if you want 2021 to happen again, you want Kamala, if you want 2018 to happen again then you want Trump. See how easy I was there to judge republican side, I said 2018 the worst year, to make it look like Trump sucked when he was president and crypto was terrible, but I omitted the part where in 2017 it was a bull run, and I omitted the part where 2022 was a bear run too. This is how they brainwash your head.

No president matters, as long as they do not ban bitcoin, no president matters, Trump or Kamala, whoever wins this election, price will go up as long as they do not ban bitcoin.

We cannot keep thinking Trump will be good and Kamala will be bad, we do not care, there are about 20-30 million active bitcoin users in USA, there are x10 of that number all around, and more than half of the money in bitcoin comes out side of USA as well. Hence this shouldn't be a president deal.

[Sithara007]

Is this true?
https://cryptobriefing.com/ripple-larsen-xrp-donation/

Ripple's co founder donated 1 million USD worth of XRP to a pro Kamala PAC...

It's so unhinged we live in a world that his can happen under. The Biden-Harris administration has hunted Ripple down relentlessly, and yet there's a PAC ready to accept a donation in this currency to support Kamala's presidential bid. Like whaaat?

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

So much for Kamala's campaign donations being grass roots when her PAC running the most ads right now fails to reject such hypocritical donations.

In the end all the crooks and frauds ends up supporting the Democrat Party. A fine example is that of Sam Bankman-Fraud. Democrats are against any sort of decentralization, and for the cryptocurrency users it is just suicidal to support Kamala Harris. It is like Jews supporting Haj Amin al-Husseini (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) back in the 1940s. Donald Trump is the most pro-Bitcoin president we can ever get. He is more of a libertarian than a Republican. Supporting Kamala against Trump is outright stupid.

[alani123]

Is this true?
https://cryptobriefing.com/ripple-larsen-xrp-donation/

Ripple's co founder donated 1 million USD worth of XRP to a pro Kamala PAC...

It's so unhinged we live in a world that his can happen under. The Biden-Harris administration has hunted Ripple down relentlessly, and yet there's a PAC ready to accept a donation in this currency to support Kamala's presidential bid. Like whaaat?

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

So much for Kamala's campaign donations being grass roots when her PAC running the most ads right now fails to reject such hypocritical donations.

In the end all the crooks and frauds ends up supporting the Democrat Party. A fine example is that of Sam Bankman-Fraud. Democrats are against any sort of decentralization, and for the cryptocurrency users it is just suicidal to support Kamala Harris. It is like Jews supporting Haj Amin al-Husseini (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) back in the 1940s. Donald Trump is the most pro-Bitcoin president we can ever get. He is more of a libertarian than a Republican. Supporting Kamala against Trump is outright stupid.

Well to their credit, Democrats returned SBFs donations:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-us-democratic-campaign-groups-move-return-bankman-fried-donations-2022-12-16/

As of Donald Trump being a libertarian. I don't know man. I feel like the whole sentiment of expecting presidential support for bitcoin to succeed is kinda contradictory.
DJT may be more supportive of market access and lack of regulation for crypto, but the "market" at hand here is a market that just benefits the big guys. When bitcoin's goal was to operate without intervention from the government, that goal doesn't see much help from stock markets and big investors playing with bitcoin. It may make the price go up in the short term but still... Under any administration, either Democrat or Republican, still the same issues would exist against crypto. Excessive AML regulation for consumers, branding marketplaces as notorious markets etc. 

[beerlover]

It would be unfair to compare what happened in 2016 with what is happening now, 8 years have passed and things have changed a lot. Have you ever wondered why microstrategy or blackrock and many other institutions did not invest in bitcoin in the early years? Why did they only recently realize the potential of bitcoin and admit that they made a mistake in not investing in it sooner? Why has the ETF been proposed for years but the US government never showed any interest and only approved it this year? Not to mention, many of us used to consider bitcoin a scam but that view has changed over time. Why doesn't anyone say that those guys are liars too? You can change your mind, so what right do you have to stop others from changing their minds and becoming better?

Like many other Democratic candidates, they know that Biden and Harris do not support bitcoin, but why do they still expect Harris to change her stance on bitcoin someday in the future. Why can't trump?

Have you heard of the crypto4Harris organization? Harris has never expressed support for crypto, so why did the Democratic Party create this organization to attract crypto voters to vote for Harris? Because they are afraid of losing crypto voters to Trump and they are creating an organization without Harris, why is no one criticizing this?

Not favourable to crypto? Where do you get your information? Biden has been the president with the two All Tim High prices, first in 2021 during bull run, and also this year we broke that again, what do you want which Biden hasn't provided you with?

Republicans are great at making factually mistaken lies, and this is just another one of them, Biden is nearly 80 years old and doesn't care about crypto, probably doesn't even know what a bitcoin is, could be reading from some paper at times, but doesn't care. But his team does, and they jailed so many scammers and punished so many companies for illegal activity, and this means we are seeing crypto grow, because less scams equals more money into it. Plus they are the ones who approved ETF as well, so we have so many companies going into bitcoin, billions of dollars.

[wheelz1200]

Is this true?
https://cryptobriefing.com/ripple-larsen-xrp-donation/

Ripple's co founder donated 1 million USD worth of XRP to a pro Kamala PAC...

It's so unhinged we live in a world that his can happen under. The Biden-Harris administration has hunted Ripple down relentlessly, and yet there's a PAC ready to accept a donation in this currency to support Kamala's presidential bid. Like whaaat?

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

So much for Kamala's campaign donations being grass roots when her PAC running the most ads right now fails to reject such hypocritical donations.

In the end all the crooks and frauds ends up supporting the Democrat Party. A fine example is that of Sam Bankman-Fraud. Democrats are against any sort of decentralization, and for the cryptocurrency users it is just suicidal to support Kamala Harris. It is like Jews supporting Haj Amin al-Husseini (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) back in the 1940s. Donald Trump is the most pro-Bitcoin president we can ever get. He is more of a libertarian than a Republican. Supporting Kamala against Trump is outright stupid.

Both sides of the fence are crooks.  I can name a zillion things both sides went back on their pre election word on.  I mean as a front yeah trump looks pro bitcoin but he knows there is a large vote he can get from crypto supporters which is now a significant portion of voters.  I don't believe a word any of them say until I see it.  Going to be a rough go on election day trying to figure out which button to push.  300million people and we get these 2 to choose from.  That's the insane thing here.

[STT]

I always thought there should be more then two choices and that is the case in many countries but USA is so massive and any candidate needs so much money it all gets funnelled into supercharging the prospects of two people.
  It would take a gigantic structural change to alter that system now and same for the much maligned electoral college system.  That is there on purpose to stop absolute democracy being the case, its not a simple majority which does make a bit of sense to me tbh.

I agree both sides of politics cannot really be relied on especially, neither side is a saint just because they appear slightly better then the other.   The fact that neither winner of this election is likely to control all the houses is probably for the best, especially if you consider government just continually accumulates debt on behalf of all its tax payers.

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

Money speaks, all big business does this kind of lobbying for their own causes and supplies money to make it right in the eyes of the law.

I still dont believe we have moved far from a 50/50 vote situation for either party but also Harris is surely not as secure as many expected at this point with all this money going her way it can only do so much.

[bbc.reporter]

Also, what should Kamala do? Should she promise that she will do a better job than the present administration? But this is also her administration hehehehehehee.

In any case, if Trump cannot maintain the pump on his ratings until November, I am afraid Kamala has some time to pump her own ratings.
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She ask US people to turn the page while in the last 3 and a half years, Biden and she have been in administration. She doesn't know how stupid that sentence means "Turning the page from Democratic Party to Republic Party" is probably what she didn't want to imply, but reality is like that. People are disappointed with the current party and administration so turning the page to the opposite party is their favorite choice now.

Let's see how she will end her President Election campaign.

After 20 years with Kamala's vision, San Francisco and California were destroyed.
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Ok, so, what you guys are essentially saying, is that if Trump gets chosen, JD Vance is the one who is pulling the strings and making decisions, being responsible of anything that administration seemingly does. Anyone else would have thought that Kamala's job was to act in place of the president, in case of president dying, but what does reality have to do with any of this.

It appears that you are creating an argument based on how you want to interpret the other argument heheheheh. What is being argued is the comedy of Kamala Harris where if she will say that she will do better than the Biden administration, this will be very much similar to an admission that she, being part of the Biden administration, did not do her duty very well for the people hehehehe.

[Poker Player]

Congress and the Senate propose and create bills that might become laws. They are the legislative department. The movements actions of the president, the vice president, his cabinet and his cabinet's people do not depend on the legislative department. The executive department can issue executive orders.

Yes, but the president, vice president and cabinet are limited. They cannot give executive orders. And they also propose laws that have to be passed by the houses. For example the budget law.

Also, what should Kamala do? Should she promise that she will do a better job than the present administration? But this is also her administration hehehehehehee.

Well, that's what he's doing. She is presenting herself as the change the USA needs, as if she had nothing to do with the Biden administration. Add to that that her solution to the economic problems she has helped create is, that she was a middle-class kid.

[alani123]

Of you go on 270towin and select to draw their map based on polymarket odds, you can see the projected outcome.

I personally find it very unlikely for Trump to win all Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania but it's interesting to see where people are putting their money at. Let's not forget that polymarket is a project by cryptobros though so obviously those more willing to take big risks in crypto probably like trump more. Are there any other big predictions markets we could look for this? Or maybe just bookie odds on a per state basis?

[Hispo]

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It appears that you are creating an argument based on how you want to interpret the other argument heheheheh. What is being argued is the comedy of Kamala Harris where if she will say that she will do better than the Biden administration, this will be very much similar to an admission that she, being part of the Biden administration, did not do her duty very well for the people hehehehe.

Realistically speaking, this incoming election is not actually for the people to choose a change of direction for the country or not. It is rather a referendum on whether the people of the USA are willing to give Trump another chance. The role of Kamala Harris as current Vice-president of the country is irrelevant for the average democrat voter, it is about voting against Trump, instead "voting for Harris". Anyone would have become the nominee in order to replace Joe Biden and still the average democrat voter would still give the support to such person over Trump.
Keeping that in mind, recently Obama took the stage to further make his support for Kamala and Walz clear, by calling out Donald Trump. Considering how popular Obama was back in the day, I would not be surprised he managed to swing some undecided voters in favor of Kamala. Also, it is interesting how Josh Bush has not dared to endorse Trump in the Republican convention, he (Bush) knows the Republican party is not the same it used to be and the core Republican values have been replaced by Trump talking points and conspiracy theories.

[noormcs5]

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

For now, yes, because there are several things he promised to the crypto world, especially in America, if he is elected president. But don't be too happy about it, because he is an opportunist and a politician, meaning what he says today may be the opposite of what he does in the future, so don't expect too much from him and let's just see if he can realize his promise or not.

Even if he fulfils half of his promises related to cryptocurrencies or bitcoin, it will be good for the community. By the way, he is pro-crypto, so we can safely say that there will be no ban on crypto or other things that may have a significant bad impact on crypto.
I think we should be remain optimistic about the potential for positive developments in the crypto space once he (trump) is elected. Creating the favorable environments for crypto investments / projects and the overall adoption may bring a boost to the market sentiments.

[AmoreJaz]

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

For now, yes, because there are several things he promised to the crypto world, especially in America, if he is elected president. But don't be too happy about it, because he is an opportunist and a politician, meaning what he says today may be the opposite of what he does in the future, so don't expect too much from him and let's just see if he can realize his promise or not.

Even if he fulfils half of his promises related to cryptocurrencies or bitcoin, it will be good for the community. By the way, he is pro-crypto, so we can safely say that there will be no ban on crypto or other things that may have a significant bad impact on crypto.
I think we should be remain optimistic about the potential for positive developments in the crypto space once he (trump) is elected. Creating the favorable environments for crypto investments / projects and the overall adoption may bring a boost to the market sentiments.

The current developments are showing that Trump will gain the support from the crypto community. However, let us check the stats the population who are in crypto, and the numbers are still small. So he still needs the support of other groups which can really give him high number of votes.

When it comes to crypto projects, I believe, any President who will be elected will somehow face the fact that this digital market is going mainstream. And so addressing this market will always be in their agenda.


Cryptocurrency: What is it and how it benefits banking and finance

Based from this number, we can say, that the number is indeed increasing. More than 10% of the US population is already good number when it comes to crypto adoption. Thus, any President should also consider this market when it comes to financial programs or decisions.