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[Poker Player]

On the flip side to that, many people would never vote for a woman.

Where do you get this “many” stuff, from the Neanderthal cave you live in?

Maybe there are some orangutans in the USA that would not vote for a woman just because she is a woman, but that “many” you say you can already provide evidence, which you are not going to do, so that we believe that you have not pulled it out of your ass.

[alani123]

Democrats and their cronies in the media have stopped making sense completely...

On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.
What a load of absolute bullshit from him to say. If you want Israel to accept a ceasefire stop arming it and sending over billions and billions of dollars. When the whole world already calls you a genocidal lunatic for that, are you seriously ready to blame the perpetrator of a genocide you've been funding over not helping in your partner's re-election campaign?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/10/04/president-biden-suggests-israel-may-be-trying-to-influence/

And then you have articles like the one below, saying Putin and Netanyahu have common goals in trying to get Trump elected. Oh, ok... So every bad guy in the international arena as per the American left is now Trump's friend. As if Trump doesn't have so many issues to deal with domestically, he would need to make friends with Putin and Netanyahu to get elected. wtf even at this point
https://theintercept.com/2024/10/03/netanyahu-putin-israel-russia-trump-election/

[TwitchySeal]

Democrats and their cronies in the media have stopped making sense completely...

On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.
What a load of absolute bullshit from him to say. If you want Israel to accept a ceasefire stop arming it and sending over billions and billions of dollars. When the whole world already calls you a genocidal lunatic for that, are you seriously ready to blame the perpetrator of a genocide you've been funding over not helping in your partner's re-election campaign?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/10/04/president-biden-suggests-israel-may-be-trying-to-influence/

And then you have articles like the one below, saying Putin and Netanyahu have common goals in trying to get Trump elected. Oh, ok... So every bad guy in the international arena as per the American left is now Trump's friend. As if Trump doesn't have so many issues to deal with domestically, he would need to make friends with Putin and Netanyahu to get elected. wtf even at this point
https://theintercept.com/2024/10/03/netanyahu-putin-israel-russia-trump-election/

Wait are you saying that you don't think Netanyahu would strongly prefer Trump over Harris (or any other Democrat for that matter)?  Same question for Putin...

[alani123]

Wait are you saying that you don't think Netanyahu would strongly prefer Trump over Harris (or any other Democrat for that matter)?  Same question for Putin...

Harris has pledged to strongly support Israel also and didn't even flinch when people were protesting genocide. So I'm sure that strategically they're the same for Israel.

[TwitchySeal]

Wait are you saying that you don't think Netanyahu would strongly prefer Trump over Harris (or any other Democrat for that matter)?  Same question for Putin...

Harris has pledged to strongly support Israel also and didn't even flinch when people were protesting genocide. So I'm sure that strategically they're the same for Israel.

Trump gave Israel the Golan heights and Jerusalem.

Netanyahu and Trump have been friends for decades.  (Netanyahu was friends with Trumps father, he's also Jared Kushners godfather, also, they both need to remain in power to avoid being prosecuted for corruption - that's gotta be some sort of special bond)  Although there's a fair counterpoint that Netanyahu and Biden have also been friends for decades. 

Netanyahu has long supported Republicans and is now propped up by the most right wing government Israel has ever had.

When Obama was president, Republicans invited Netanyahu to address a joint session of congress without involving Obama at all (same as "fuck you Obama").  The topic?  To criticize Obama Iran Nuclear deal.  

Last year (or was it this year?), Republicans invited Netanyahu to address a joint session of congress without involving Biden.  During the speech, Netanyahu railed against for pushing for a cease fire before Israel could achieve 'total and absolute victory'.

After a meeting between Harris and Netanyahu (maybe a month or two ago?) Harris gave a statement saying she pushed him to "get the deal done", he flipped out and they accused her of lying about the tone of the meeting and claimed her statement emboldened Hamas.


Netanyahu want's Trump to win.  I can't believe you would think it's even debatable.  Same goes for Putin.

[alani123]

Weren't Golan Heights already occupied by Israel?
Recognition by the U.S. doesn't change the fact that it   is a mountain region and doesn't make it more secure for settlement or anything. Already prior to Trump there were 20000 settlers there. So it's not much if anything new. Trump recognizing Jerusalem and Golan heights for Israel makes him more of an opportunist if anything, because while these may have a big sentimental value for isrselis, not much changes in real life with recognition.

And the Democrats know all that. They kept the embassy and Golan heights recognition.
Biden and Kamala are very Zionist as an administration.

Most importantly, Biden and Kamala have been giving Israel record numbers of ammunition and aid while it's commiting genocide. So by these events alone they're worse.

If you compare how much money democrats vs republicans are receiving from AIPAC, the Zionist lobby, you'll see that both parties are very influenced by Jewish money. There's not much distinction these days. Zionists have decided to influence both sides on the spectrum and their investment has worked. They've been wipping out all opposition to their cause in all levels of government. From local house reps to even presidential candidates. Now it's the presidential election and people in the US effectively can't even vote for a candidate offering alternative solutions to the matter that also has a realistic path to the presidency.

[TwitchySeal]

Weren't Golan Heights already occupied by Israel?
Recognition by the U.S. doesn't change the fact that it   is a mountain region and doesn't make it more secure for settlement or anything. Already prior to Trump there were 20000 settlers there. So it's not much if anything new. Trump recognizing Jerusalem and Golan heights for Israel makes him more of an opportunist if anything, because while these may have a big sentimental value for isrselis, not much changes in real life with recognition.

And the Democrats know all that. They kept the embassy and Golan heights recognition.
Biden and Kamala are very Zionist as an administration.

Most importantly, Biden and Kamala have been giving Israel record numbers of ammunition and aid while it's commiting genocide. So by these events alone they're worse.

If you compare how much money democrats vs republicans are receiving from AIPAC, the Zionist lobby, you'll see that both parties are very influenced by Jewish money. There's not much distinction these days. Zionists have decided to influence both sides on the spectrum and their investment has worked. They've been wipping out all opposition to their cause in all levels of government. From local house reps to even presidential candidates. Now it's the presidential election and people in the US effectively can't even vote for a candidate offering alternative solutions to the matter that also has a realistic path to the presidency.

Do you really still think Netanyahu isn't rooting for Trump?  Is this a right wing talking point that you read somewhere?  Wherever you got the idea from, that's the media you should be angry at.

Lot's of democrats support Israel.  Very few Democrats support Netanyahu.  Biden obviously cares a lot about protecting Israel, and he also obviously thinks Netanyahu is killing way too many innocent people.  Look up what Biden said about the speech Chuck Schumer gave calling on Netanyahu to resign.

[alani123]

Do you really still think Netanyahu isn't rooting for Trump?  Is this a right wing talking point that you read somewhere?  Wherever you got the idea from, that's the media you should be angry at.

Lot's of democrats support Israel.  Very few Democrats support Netanyahu.  Biden obviously cares a lot about protecting Israel, and he also obviously thinks Netanyahu is killing way too many innocent people.  Look up what Biden said about the speech Chuck Schumer gave calling on Netanyahu to resign.

I'll pull a JD Vance on you and say...
Let's for the sake of argument agree that Bibi is in fact attempting to do sway the U.S. public opinion towards Trump with his tactics. Why then is Biden continuously reaffirming his support for Israel? Why does he keep sending aid and weapons? Did he only just now realize that it might cost Kamala the election?

The option to appeal to their own supposedly left wing humanitarian standards was always there. But all they did was "express concern" while continuously blocking UN resolutions for a ceasefire and supplying all the means for Israel to continue the genocide. Truly Israel is a terrible partner to have. And the Democrats are also quite traitorous towards their own country themselves, to even go as far as to admit publicly that Israel is trying to influence the election against them, but still do nothing to stop them.

[EarnOnVictor]

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability.  

Skin color? What skin color? Kamala is as much black as Donald is orange!

If at all anything would happen regarding Harris's skin colour, it's gonna be in her favour. You'll see enough people of colour in the US and that alone is enough reason for her to garner more votes because which is one of them. But talking about the tone as he puts it, it's certainly baseless, who cares about what you do with your skin?

As for the sexual orientation, what are you even talking about she's straight!

Hahaha...at this point, I guess you should beware of what you reply to, some people may drive you crazy with their unfounded remarks.

[stompix]

Democrats and their cronies in the media have stopped making sense completely...
On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.

How about a reality check, first Trump's own words on Iran yesterday:

"When they asked him that question, the answer should have been, hit the nuclear first, and worry about the rest later," Trump added.

Now let's see what the peaceful Trump has done in the Israeli conflict
- the first president to acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy from Tel Aviv there!
- ordered a drone strike on Qasem Soleimani, turning the hero of Iran and head of the military into mincemeat
- went online with this stuff at the first threat issued by Iran:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021234525626609666
Have you ever heard Biden or Harris threaten to erase Iran from the map?

Seriously, as an Israeli who would you want in the White House?

I'll pull a JD Vance on you and say...
Let's for the sake of argument agree that Bibi is in fact attempting to do sway the U.S. public opinion towards Trump with his tactics. Why then is Biden continuously reaffirming his support for Israel? Why does he keep sending aid and weapons? Did he only just now realize that it might cost Kamala the election?

Is this so hard to understand?
No Muslim or Palestinian that can vote would vote for Trump ever, but Israeli supporters would!
Simple as that, the democrats know they won't lose those voters but could lose the others!

Hahaha...at this point, I guess you should beware of what you reply to, some people may drive you crazy with their unfounded remarks.

This is still chill, you should see what's happening on TikTok, Republicans can't figure out what she is, black, indian, african, native, lesbian, gay, transexual, good thing that elections are soon, otherwise god knows what theories might surface!

[alani123]

@stompix

Don't get me wrong, I believe Trump is the most incendiary presidential candidate on the Israel-Palestine issue the U.S. has seen.
But my first post was about Biden claiming the Netanyahu government is holding back a ceasefire to help Trump. Which I find ironic.
So we agree that Trump could be a menace for Palestinians. But then again, isn't it ironic that Biden suggests there might even be a ceasefire with Trump? Surely he cares about the election outcome to bring that up publicly, but he doesn't care about the voters he has lost the Democratic party with his own actions?

Is this so hard to understand?
No Muslim or Palestinian that can vote would vote for Trump ever, but Israeli supporters would!
Simple as that, the democrats know they won't lose those voters but could lose the others!

Ok, so Biden knows they've completely lost some people. So he doesn't care to suggest that Netanyahu may be delaying a ceasefire to harm Democrats, albeit not doing anything to pressure Israel into a ceasefire. Pretty careless of him. Most probably you're right that they THINK this won't affect their numbers much especially in relation to Jewish pro-zion votes vs pro-palestine votes. But pro-palestine people aren't just Muslim/Palestinians in the USA. The marches for Palestine across the country have been attended by people through all walks of life. So I think Democrats are underestimating the votes they're losing because of their Palestine policy so far and it might really cost them the election.

[STT]

Netanyahu is holding back any ceasefire to help himself primarily. Nobody has mentioned he was not in power fully before this war, remember the troubles with his Supreme court etc.  He has a unity government only because of this attack really and that is a big motivator to his actions ongoing.

Seriously, as an Israeli who would you want in the White House?

I think they would very much not like to call sides but its obvious a few governments would prefer Trump for his very different policy to the ongoing norms.   Putin saying he doesnt want Trump is a joke, of course he wants NATO to be trimmed so Trump is a dream candidate in that respect.

The biggest news is the oil price rise, this helps Trump.  Its such a large factor that if oil keeps rising upto election day then Trump has his best chance imo, if swing states contain people deciding on the day in any way then it could simply be enough to push him over the line. 

[TwitchySeal]

@stompix

Don't get me wrong, I believe Trump is the most incendiary presidential candidate on the Israel-Palestine issue the U.S. has seen.
But my first post was about Biden claiming the Netanyahu government is holding back a ceasefire to help Trump. Which I find ironic.

Here's what I was responding to:

Democrats and their cronies in the media have stopped making sense completely...

On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.
What a load of absolute bullshit from him to say. If you want Israel to accept a ceasefire stop arming it and sending over billions and billions of dollars. When the whole world already calls you a genocidal lunatic for that, are you seriously ready to blame the perpetrator of a genocide you've been funding over not helping in your partner's re-election campaign?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/10/04/president-biden-suggests-israel-may-be-trying-to-influence/

And then you have articles like the one below, saying Putin and Netanyahu have common goals in trying to get Trump elected. Oh, ok... So every bad guy in the international arena as per the American left is now Trump's friend. As if Trump doesn't have so many issues to deal with domestically, he would need to make friends with Putin and Netanyahu to get elected. wtf even at this point

I don't think you actually read either of the links you posted.  You should.  Relying on right wing media to determine your view of left wing media will almost always land you in the land of make believe.  

On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.
What a load of absolute bullshit from him to say. If you want Israel to accept a ceasefire stop arming it and sending over billions and billions of dollars. When the whole world already calls you a genocidal lunatic for that, are you seriously ready to blame the perpetrator of a genocide you've been funding over not helping in your partner's re-election campaign?

The load of bullshit is what you claim Biden said.  Here's the quote, directly from your own link:

The President did not definitively rule out the possibility that Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, was trying to influence the contest, when challenged by reporters on Friday afternoon.

“No administration has helped Israel more than I have – none, none, none,” Mr. Biden said.

“And I think Bibi [Mr. Netanyahu] should remember that, and whether he’s trying to influence the election, I don’t know, but I’m not counting on that.”

There's no reason to believe Biden was being anything but genuine here.  What he said rings true,  - which is far from what you said he said.

And as for your other claim:

And then you have articles like the one below, saying Putin and Netanyahu have common goals in trying to get Trump elected. Oh, ok... So every bad guy in the international arena as per the American left is now Trump's friend. As if Trump doesn't have so many issues to deal with domestically, he would need to make friends with Putin and Netanyahu to get elected. wtf even at this point

As I've already said, there is no doubt Netanyahu would prefer a Trump victory in November.  Same with Putin.  When Republicans or MAGA fans say otherwise, they are trolling.  Every single rational and informed person would agree that Putin and Netanyahu both hope for a Trump victory.  It's not even close.  Claiming otherwise would be almost as ridiculous as saying Zelensky was hoping for a Trump victory.  Read what I've already posted, and especially Chuck Schumers speech and Bidens comments on it if you still aren't convinced.


I hope you rethink your view of the 'democrats and the media cronies'.  Because at least in this case, what you think is real is actually not.

[bbc.reporter]

@TwitchySeal. This is a similar occurrence to what is presently happening between Trump and Kamala. However on 2016, Trump tactics was something very new that shocked Hillary and her team. This tactic is not anymore new and it appears Kamala's team is not very much forced to react that would make them appear very comedic. It is Trump that has appeared comedic on the debate against Kamala.

Are illegal aliens not allowed to vote? I reckon Trump can make one more promise to increase his ratings. He can promise to give all those illegal aliens that have entered America's borders from 2020 to 2024 their citizenship if he is the winner on November hehehehe.

Trump did look like a bitch sorta on the debate he had with Harris, but if I were a voter I would still vote Trump over Harris. In the end they are all liars, all make broken promises, and all are just puppets. Difference with Trump is the entertainment factor. If he is in office, the Dems will not stop looking for ways to impeach him, criticize everything he does or doesn't do, and Twitter(X) will always have headlines for him to make silly comments on.

On your entertainment factor argument, I very much agree hhehhe. It also appears that there will be swing voters who will also agree and vote Trump. Kamala should convince the voters that she is very much smarter than how she appears because if she is considered as stupid as the Donald, I reckon the decision on who to vote would be very much easy.

In any case, Trump's ratings might begin to pump. Will this be more than 55% on November 1?

[alani123]

@TwitchySeal no need to spend so much time attacking me and my reading skills, really. The Telegraph is right leaning yet the second article I posted was attacking pro trump narratives. So your assumptions that I am forming my opinions from right wing media are nonsense.

Anyway, I think you have failed to address my most important points other than attacking me.
If Biden wants a ceasefire in Palestine, stop sending arms and aid and it'll come very fast.

As of Trump & Russia. Surely not continuing support for the war in Ukraine is something that would suit Putin. But then again, have you looked at the polls for how many Americans support funding the war in Ukraine? Hell, lately even in Ukraine support for the war has been falling. Biden and Kamala are from a faction of the democratic party that would be very glad to start wars abroad sometimes for no reason at all. Hillary Clinton had the world renowned butcher, Kissinger, as her advisor. Many peoples around the world suffered for triangular diplomacy, i.e. advancing US interest through military power and forced diplomacy. Trump may be a dunce but one less war is a good thing.

[nullama]

~snip~
On your entertainment factor argument, I very much agree hhehhe. It also appears that there will be swing voters who will also agree and vote Trump. Kamala should convince the voters that she is very much smarter than how she appears because if she is considered as stupid as the Donald, I reckon the decision on who to vote would be very much easy.

In any case, Trump's ratings might begin to pump. Will this be more than 55% on November 1?
~snip~

Yeah, I think it's going to be very tight. Maybe closer to 50/50.

It's going to be a massive thing when it happens, no matter who wins, it will be a massive event.

Hopefully nothing violent happens though, but maybe it will...

[Webetcoins]

Trump was "the" change people wanted, he wasn't a career politician, he was never part of politics before, and before he became a nominee he had never spent a day in public office before. So this made him win, because people saw career politicians end up getting the votes and be nominee and just went with him to see what would happen if you picked someone who would be different.

However, that did not turned out too well for many people, while democrats "mocked" him before the election, and when they lost they were afraid, if he did very well then they would have softened, but we all saw his four years, and we all saw what he did with covid and supreme court, so lets be honest and realize maybe he may have lost 2020 not because of party or population or anything else but because he was a straight up bad president?

There shouldn't be any questions if he loses this one too, which will be very obvious that he will not be the candidate ever again, even if he wants to be candidate for 2028, if he loses this one then people will not vote for him in 2028 and republicans will honestly pick someone else, he is just too old, and losing two times will make his potential very low.

[o48o]

Trump was "the" change people wanted, he wasn't a career politician, he was never part of politics before, and before he became a nominee he had never spent a day in public office before. So this made him win, because people saw career politicians end up getting the votes and be nominee and just went with him to see what would happen if you picked someone who would be different.

However, that did not turned out too well for many people, while democrats "mocked" him before the election, and when they lost they were afraid, if he did very well then they would have softened, but we all saw his four years, and we all saw what he did with covid and supreme court, so lets be honest and realize maybe he may have lost 2020 not because of party or population or anything else but because he was a straight up bad president?

There shouldn't be any questions if he loses this one too, which will be very obvious that he will not be the candidate ever again, even if he wants to be candidate for 2028, if he loses this one then people will not vote for him in 2028 and republicans will honestly pick someone else, he is just too old, and losing two times will make his potential very low.

It's a tie again:



I was little surprised about the fact that trump led for a while, considering the fact that all of his promises are so transparent lies. Just listing his crimes and crimes he is credibly accused of, would make me seem like i am trying start a flame war, as they are so horrid. And imagine him dying of old age after becoming president. Who would want his running mate anywhere near to real power? Because i haven't seen even most loyal magahats praising him. His popularity seems to be in the dumpster:

https://newrepublic.com/post/184438/jd-vance-popularity-brutally-embarrassing-hit

[Hispo]

Trump was "the" change people wanted, he wasn't a career politician, he was never part of politics before, and before he became a nominee he had never spent a day in public office before. So this made him win, because people saw career politicians end up getting the votes and be nominee and just went with him to see what would happen if you picked someone who would be different.

In my opinion, you are right but he over-promised over what he was capable of. He did not only promised he would build a wall to stop illegal immigration and make Mexico pay for it, he also promised to get rid of the spending deficit of the country and other things which he could not get done, he even tried to ban foreigners from Muslin majority countries from entering the United States, until a judge ruled it was unconstitutional to do such a thing.
He was definitely different from the average Washington politician, but he could change anything because of how the establishment works, in general democracy in the USA is built so the president alone cannot change how things work and make society better.

As it stands for now, it seems both Trump and Kamala have gotten similar odds on the betting markets, which is a good sign for Trump, since he was already losing some steam. I am still waiting for some bombshell report before placing my final bet on either of them, the so called October surprise.

[Haunebu]

It's hilarious watching some people in this forum fully depend on polymarket to assess the presidency election. It's just a tool for reference and anyone with a half-decent brain wouldn't completely depend on it.

FYI, it's actually banned in the USA and is filled with crypto dudes who are mostly republican supporters. The actual result looks like it's evenly split(50:50) between both at the moment based on multiple reference points.