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October 11, 2024, 01:39:29 PM
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Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.
My view is opposite. Should Trump be elected he would fleece us of all our crypto as it his nature to betray people who believe in his promises. He may be on the ball when gives promisses at public but  in the reality most of them remain ether not enacted and broken  or compromised (crypto is his previous  Mexico's wall, where it is?). I don't trust his crypto-promise and besides of this crypto is nothing compared with the chasm between the haves and the have-nots  which would wait America should he be elected.
Yep, believing him on this makes no sense.

Even pro-trump podcaster started laughing to his face when trump said that he is basically truthful person.



Even if he wanted to be pro-crypto, i would bet money that he doesn't know what things would be beneficial for it. He would like death penalties for drug trafficers/smugglers and dealers... he pretends he is tough on crime, yet he now wants to set free Ross Ulbricht. Man who founded silk road and Armour. Both being famous for enabling illegal drug and gun trading.

He didn't do it last time, because he didn't know he had voters in libertarians. And now he just says he does.

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October 11, 2024, 01:50:53 PM
 #1142

Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.
My view is opposite. Should Trump be elected he would fleece us of all our crypto as it his nature to betray people who believe in his promises. He may be on the ball when gives promisses at public but  in the reality most of them remain ether not enacted and broken  or compromised (crypto is his previous  Mexico's wall, where it is?). I don't trust his crypto-promise and besides of this crypto is nothing compared with the chasm between the haves and the have-nots  which would wait America should he be elected.
Yep, believing him on this makes no sense.

If I had to vote in the USA, I would not decide my vote simply because of the policy they seem likely to implement regarding cryptocurrencies. It also looks like if Kamala wins she would appoint Mark Cuban as head of the SEC, which would be good for us too I think.

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October 11, 2024, 02:13:34 PM
Last edit: October 11, 2024, 03:19:22 PM by Sithara007
 #1143

Trump seems to be surging ahead. I was looking at the RCP no-tossup map, and now he is considerably ahead of Kamala in terms of electoral votes (302 vs 236). And the most important thing is that he is ahead in almost all of the swing states. The only swing state where Kamala is ahead is Wisconsin. And even there, the race seems to be tightening. And adding insult to injury for Kamala, Trump is closing in on several blue states such as Minnesota and Virginia. If opinion polls are saying like this, then in the end it is going to be a landslide by GOP.

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October 11, 2024, 03:43:07 PM
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My view is opposite. Should Trump be elected he would fleece us of all our crypto as it his nature to betray people who believe in his promises. He may be on the ball when gives promisses at public but  in the reality most of them remain ether not enacted and broken  or compromised (crypto is his previous  Mexico's wall, where it is?). I don't trust his crypto-promise and besides of this crypto is nothing compared with the chasm between the haves and the have-nots  which would wait America should he be elected.
Yep, believing him on this makes no sense.

If I had to vote in the USA, I would not decide my vote simply because of the policy they seem likely to implement regarding cryptocurrencies. It also looks like if Kamala wins she would appoint Mark Cuban as head of the SEC, which would be good for us too I think.
That's just a rumor, but what if Harris wins and continues to pursue Biden's policies and continues to pick Gary? And she will continue to let Gary oppress us and make the crypto industry more difficult.

We can't guarantee that if Trump wins, he'll keep his promise, but at least Gary won't be SEC chairman after 2025 because he's Biden's pick. At least we have a new SEC chairman under Trump, not Gary and that's a win for crypto.

Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.

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October 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PM
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for crypto.
Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.
You are seriously delusional just like so many other far right supporters if you think that he gives two shits about cryptocurrencies. Many posters have already stated that he broke many promises before which is why I have no idea how you people are so confident about this particular promise.

Come up with better reasons if y'all actually wish to support him instead of this nonsense.

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October 11, 2024, 04:11:54 PM
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If I had to vote in the USA, I would not decide my vote simply because of the policy they seem likely to implement regarding cryptocurrencies. It also looks like if Kamala wins she would appoint Mark Cuban as head of the SEC, which would be good for us too I think.
That's just a rumor, but what if Harris wins and continues to pursue Biden's policies and continues to pick Gary? And she will continue to let Gary oppress us and make the crypto industry more difficult.

We can't guarantee that if Trump wins, he'll keep his promise, but at least Gary won't be SEC chairman after 2025 because he's Biden's pick. At least we have a new SEC chairman under Trump, not Gary and that's a win for crypto.

Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.
I don't get what either of you are talking about. First responsibility of SEC is to protect investors.

Now how would that change in case of new head of SEC? They still continue to be accountable to congress, so they don't just quit doing their job and ignore the process for securities, or are being defined, or registered. Or are you guys telling me that new head of SEC would just risk jail because of pumping crypto?

And Iranus, seriously, scenario where trump keeps his promise? And what evidence are you talking about? Evidence doesn't work like that. Evidence is for studying past events. So how about track record of broken promises / lies of each candinate? Trump lies so much that internet can't even keep up with that.

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October 11, 2024, 06:24:32 PM
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The odds and polls can never be same, odds are made by companies, odds are given based on what people put their money on.

However, I can clearly say Kamala is losing big big points based on this Hurricane Milton situation. While I know she is not the president and while I know what is happening and the help ends up being based on what congress and senate passes and not based on even just the president so she could have been president and all she would have rights to do would be send federal help whatever they have as emergency, that's it nothing more.

Anything further has to pass down the house and senate, and neither side agreed on a help so it is not entirely her fault. But I also never saw her make any speech about trying to help and republicans stopping her, which means maybe she wasn't. All in all, Milton could be the battle Kamala loses this election on, happened right on the cusp of elections and too many people are doing terrible and people have a dislike of her because of no proper help.

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October 11, 2024, 10:58:24 PM
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Harris still ahead of that old fart Trump who wants to fire out all sencible Americans  and put on their places the   bastards similar to him. She is steadily building her momentum across all walk of America's life and what I like most is that the  young generations support her visions for future  rather then Trump's ones. I have put my bet on Harris win.



This should be a cause for the gamblers on the election speculate and inquire who is making the mistake? Is this the pollsters or the oddsmakers of the sportsbooks and the participants of the prediction markets? The oddsmakers presently have Trump on 1.83 and Kamala on 1.99. Polymarket participants presently have Trump on 53.6% and Kamala on 45.8%. The money speaking through the sportsbooks and Polymarket is very much not telling us a similar storyline as the pollsters heheheheh. However, if the money speaking through the sportsbooks and the prediction markets are wrong, this might certainly be a good bet for Kamala if you will bet her right now heheheh.



I think more gamblers would lean on trump, but I don't think that's indicative of who will win amd what the real polls would show as the leader.  Odds start at a certain point and gets moved where money goes.  It's like betting on the yankees, cowboys or the Lakers in sports.  More people bet on those teams so there is a lot of value betting the other side because it's too far from where it should be. I'd give a 50/50 shot right now so Kamala getting value.
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Last edit: October 11, 2024, 11:26:41 PM by Smartvirus
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That’s pretty much a balanced scale for a bet on who wins the presidential elections in the Americas between Kamala and Trump. With Kamala, there seems to be a fighting chance However chance, more than there could have been in Biden which would have result in a landslide victory for Trump
However, I am pro Trump and I think his a more better person in position for a win.

I know the sentimental thing of a female president to rule the rest of the world would kick in and there would be a faction that wouldn’t want to see her on the seat because she’s a female but, I really hope citizens set all that aside and vote the most credible according to their evaluations. Let credibility win!

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October 11, 2024, 11:24:48 PM
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I know the sentimental thing of a female president to rule the rest of the world would kick in and there would be a faction that wouldn’t want to see her on the seat because she’s a female but, I really hope citizens set all that aside and vote the most credible according to their evaluations. Let credibility win!

That is something yet fail to fully understand from the democrat party. They could have gone through some legitimate primaries and chosen some credible candidate which would have ended up being a man, probably white, but they decided to go for Kamala Harris and scare off some of their most moderate voting base, which is not ready to accept having a black woman as their maximum representative within the government yet.
The core of the democrat party must be deluded enough to believe this is time for the United States to take chances and make Trump to face a black woman instead of the typical establishment white young man, who could have easily defeated Trump, instead they take risks with Kamala.

Trump has almost a fifty percent chance of winning and that is crazy, considering he would be the first convicted felon to become president of the United States. He would be the winner for the Republican party, a party which is pretty much pro-gun and he by law cannot have a gun, as he is a felon in the state of New York...

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for crypto.
Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.
You are seriously delusional just like so many other far right supporters if you think that he gives two shits about cryptocurrencies. Many posters have already stated that he broke many promises before which is why I have no idea how you people are so confident about this particular promise.

Come up with better reasons if y'all actually wish to support him instead of this nonsense.

Trump has been elected before and for sure even non US people here have seen his stance on crypto, which is none. And if I'm not mistaken, he even put someone in the SEC that really started this witch hunt on crypto related projects.

So it's really hard to just believed on Trump's promise that he will be a pro-Bitcoin wherein before he didn't do anything about it. What changes? It's because Bitcoin is getting better and he is just taking advantage of it because they believed that there are a lot of Bitcoin enthusiast in the US and he wants to get the majority of votes from them.

 
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October 12, 2024, 05:47:47 AM
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I think more gamblers would lean on trump, but I don't think that's indicative of who will win amd what the real polls would show as the leader.  Odds start at a certain point and gets moved where money goes.  It's like betting on the yankees, cowboys or the Lakers in sports.  More people bet on those teams so there is a lot of value betting the other side because it's too far from where it should be. I'd give a 50/50 shot right now so Kamala getting value.
It's hard to know what are real polls if criteria are good methodology for sampling and non-bias process. Because we can not know full details of their methodologies, we or at least me, don't trust their polls and results they share on media.

These things are referencing information with very low reliability especially in era of very biased and manipulated media.

Gamblers were not favorite on Trump like 2 weeks ago, but what changed to make their favorite turning to him recent days especially this week?

Kamala seems to sink in if figures from Polymarket reflects accurately what's going on in this election.

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October 12, 2024, 08:03:12 AM
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Looks like we are in the endgame of this chaotic election people. Musk is going all out endorsing Trump while Obama started rallying for Harris. True odds will probably stay 50:50 till the last minute thanks to both leading by small margins in various swing states.

Betting on this particular election is very risky and it's best to invest only what you are willing to lose.

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October 12, 2024, 09:10:56 AM
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for crypto.
Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.
You are seriously delusional just like so many other far right supporters if you think that he gives two shits about cryptocurrencies. Many posters have already stated that he broke many promises before which is why I have no idea how you people are so confident about this particular promise.

Come up with better reasons if y'all actually wish to support him instead of this nonsense.

Trump has been elected before and for sure even non US people here have seen his stance on crypto, which is none. And if I'm not mistaken, he even put someone in the SEC that really started this witch hunt on crypto related projects.

So it's really hard to just believed on Trump's promise that he will be a pro-Bitcoin wherein before he didn't do anything about it. What changes? It's because Bitcoin is getting better and he is just taking advantage of it because they believed that there are a lot of Bitcoin enthusiast in the US and he wants to get the majority of votes from them.

It would be unfair to compare what happened in 2016 with what is happening now, 8 years have passed and things have changed a lot. Have you ever wondered why microstrategy or blackrock and many other institutions did not invest in bitcoin in the early years? Why did they only recently realize the potential of bitcoin and admit that they made a mistake in not investing in it sooner? Why has the ETF been proposed for years but the US government never showed any interest and only approved it this year? Not to mention, many of us used to consider bitcoin a scam but that view has changed over time. Why doesn't anyone say that those guys are liars too? You can change your mind, so what right do you have to stop others from changing their minds and becoming better?

Like many other Democratic candidates, they know that Biden and Harris do not support bitcoin, but why do they still expect Harris to change her stance on bitcoin someday in the future. Why can't trump?

Have you heard of the crypto4Harris organization? Harris has never expressed support for crypto, so why did the Democratic Party create this organization to attract crypto voters to vote for Harris? Because they are afraid of losing crypto voters to Trump and they are creating an organization without Harris, why is no one criticizing this?

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October 12, 2024, 05:37:51 PM
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Is this true?
https://cryptobriefing.com/ripple-larsen-xrp-donation/

Ripple's co founder donated 1 million USD worth of XRP to a pro Kamala PAC...

It's so unhinged we live in a world that his can happen under. The Biden-Harris administration has hunted Ripple down relentlessly, and yet there's a PAC ready to accept a donation in this currency to support Kamala's presidential bid. Like whaaat?

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

So much for Kamala's campaign donations being grass roots when her PAC running the most ads right now fails to reject such hypocritical donations.

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October 12, 2024, 06:00:40 PM
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Is this true?
https://cryptobriefing.com/ripple-larsen-xrp-donation/

Ripple's co founder donated 1 million USD worth of XRP to a pro Kamala PAC...

It's so unhinged we live in a world that his can happen under. The Biden-Harris administration has hunted Ripple down relentlessly, and yet there's a PAC ready to accept a donation in this currency to support Kamala's presidential bid. Like whaaat?

Chris Larsen must be very desperate and this PAC is surely very hypocritical. The filling reporting this is from August so most definitely they have not rejected this donation, to the contrary they must have used it b now already.

So much for Kamala's campaign donations being grass roots when her PAC running the most ads right now fails to reject such hypocritical donations.
You seem confused. What does Kamala had to do with ripple lawsuit? SEC is an independent agency, that doesn't do what president or vice president says they should. SEC is accountable to the congress, so if you think that SEC is doing something wrong, maybe you should write your congressmen about that. But just know that the oversight and hearings of SEC is all publicly available, with transcripts and everything.

Also not everything is about profits, but about values and freedom, which Kamala is offering.

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October 12, 2024, 06:19:34 PM
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You seem confused. What does Kamala had to do with ripple lawsuit? SEC is an independent agency,...
Kamala Harris is the sitting vice president in the current administration. They appointed Gensler and could have appointed someone else if they wanted the prosecution of Ripple to stop.

And yet, they didn't do anything. They just let the lawsuit and the prosecution go on. So now they have to problem aiding their campaign from the same organization their administration was trying to wipe out.
Had this lawsuit gone a little differently, XRP would have been a thing of the past, its price completely wiped out. I hope the irony is not lost here.  Roll Eyes

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October 12, 2024, 06:42:26 PM
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You seem confused. What does Kamala had to do with ripple lawsuit? SEC is an independent agency,...
Kamala Harris is the sitting vice president in the current administration. They appointed Gensler and could have appointed someone else if they wanted the prosecution of Ripple to stop.

And yet, they didn't do anything. They just let the lawsuit and the prosecution go on. So now they have to problem aiding their campaign from the same organization their administration was trying to wipe out.
Had this lawsuit gone a little differently, XRP would have been a thing of the past, its price completely wiped out. I hope the irony is not lost here.  Roll Eyes
Lol, like presidents would pretend being experts on that field and canceling someone's job because they feel, that they shouldn't go after Ripple? Oversight not a job of a president, it's a job of a congress. If congress sees that they aren't doing their job, president can fire point new head for SEC.

And let's not pretend like legality ripple's practices wouldn't be better to be solved by professionals in court? You really think that president should be expert on technical legalities of securities and overseeing every case because they sure have time and expertise for that. That's rich, because even no one in here seem to know securities laws even superficially.

And like i already pointed out in here or somewhere -> like some other head of SEC wouldn't do their job? And that's Gensler is doing; his literal job description.

Also SEC went after crypto companies way before Biden's era.

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October 12, 2024, 07:24:46 PM
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Donald Trump would be better for us as crypto people.

For now, yes, because there are several things he promised to the crypto world, especially in America, if he is elected president. But don't be too happy about it, because he is an opportunist and a politician, meaning what he says today may be the opposite of what he does in the future, so don't expect too much from him and let's just see if he can realize his promise or not.

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