⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[Lannakosa]

Bayern didn't give Flamengo any chance to equalize the goals, whenever Flamengo is one goal down, Bayeen scores another goal to maintain the two goals difference. Bayern didn't waste their chances of finding the back of the net whenever they are opportune which makes it more difficult for Flamengo to put themselves back in the game.

The first European quarterfinal is already ready, now it's Dortmund's turn to beat Monterrey and the second quarterfinal will also be European. Actually, if everything goes this way, there won't be much point in this tournament, because we can see the same thing in the Champions League. Inter and City are also favorites in their pairs, so it won't be surprising if this becomes another European quarterfinal.

[blomen]

for the quarterfinal pairings that have been announced so far, it's not hard to predict that chelsea will eliminate palmeiras with a heavy win. what i'm really curious about is the psg - bayern munich matchup.

there are some top quality teams in the tournament, and it was bound to happen sooner or later that most european teams would be paired against each other, but before the semifinals it feels a bit interesting to have such a matchup in this tournament. psg seems to be the favorite, but i'm sure it will be a match worth watching.

[Velvet78]

The last game of the night was way better honestly.    Even though Bayern Munich made a great start to the game, Flamengo didn't give up easily. 6 goals in total and absolutely not a one-sided game!

PSG - Bayern Munich is going to be lots of fun hopefully... Do I have a favourite in this? Yeah. I think PSG will be the advancing side. Dembele is back so I think their chance is higher now. But in regular time? I'm not sure about that.

[stompix]

40 pages ago after PSG was beaten ...
The European teams perform so badly, the South Americans and maybe even the other teams will beat them, it will be humiliation for the continent.

Today, oh no, we're going to get 3 quarters with only European teams!!! This is so boring!!!!
The mood is just hilarious, I kind-of wish Al-Hilal to make it to the semi-finals just to see how the mood and the predictions will swing around 270⁰ and then 450 ⁰.

Anyhow, as expected, Al-Hilal has gone down from that insane 1.33 to 1.20 on averge, but if you still believe in their chances here is a quick way to make x51 with a betbuilder:


  You don't win big if you don't risk big time!!!



 

[Tamaperdana]

So with that, the match continued with extra time and that's where Chelsea really rose. Because in the extra time, Chelsea was able to score 3 additional goals which became the absolute winner for Chelsea. So with the victory Chelsea managed to qualify for the last 8 and will face Palmeiras. I think Palmeiras will not be too difficult an opponent for Chelsea, what do you all think?

Between Chelsea forward and their defense, I don't know which one is more better than the other. With just some few minutes to end the game, they misbehave and caused a penalty that led to Benfica equaliser. The weather disrupted the game and I couldn't finish watching only to wake up to that equaliser and I was thinking the game would end up in a penalty kick but Chelsea players seem to developed extra energy from the break and come back stronger to finish it up in the extra time. However, that wasn't a comfortable win in all honesty and I cannot predict their success in the next match but I won't be surprised if they crashed out.

In essence, there are several factors that caused Chelsea to win this match, the first seems to be caused by stamina. I see that Chelsea players' stamina is much stronger than Benfica players' stamina. That's why in extra time Chelsea players were able to really dominate the match well. Then the second factor, it seems that Chelsea already knows the weaknesses of Benfica players. Because playing two rounds with Benfica, of course it will show the bad side and gaps of Benfica. That's why in a little time in extra time, Chelsea was able to score 3 goals. So I think this victory is quite worthy for Chelsea. Because they have worked very hard to be able to win this match.

In addition, regarding Chelsea who conceded in the final minutes of the second half, of course it was the fault of the back line who were too panicked and finally they made a violation which resulted in a penalty for Benfica. Chelsea must fix this, so that it doesn't happen again in the last 8. Because if Chelsea still makes mistakes like this, I think the results could be fatal. Because in the last 8 round a team like Palmeiras will also fight as hard as they can and will take advantage of any gap. So with that, Chelsea must evaluate their mistakes as soon as possible. And about Chelsea will qualify from the last 8 round or not, I personally am still quite sure that Chelsea has a big chance of qualifying.

[Kaliandra]

Chelsea's match was really colored by many tense events starting from extreme weather and lots of lightning which of course forced the audience and players to take shelter first because they were afraid of accidents and the Chelsea vs Benfica match had to be postponed, but in the end Chelsea was able to win and Chelsea was able to advance to the quarter finals.

Benfica only managed to score 1 goal through Di Maria's penalty kick and of course Benfica's fate is not good at the moment and what is certain is that now they can only surrender to the events that have occurred.


I wonder what will happen in the Palmeiras vs Chelsea match, do you favor Chelsea or Falmeiras to win? But many of my friends favor Chelsea to win the match.

[Polkeins]

Flamengo played very decent yesterday and had a chance to win, but two Bayern players Kane and Goretzka managed two great shots from outside the penalty area, but still Flamengo fought to the end and even managed to reduce the score with a penalty to 3:2, but the class of Bayern is certainly much higher and when Kane scored 4 it became clear that Bayern will win.
Flamengo was not far behind Bayern in shots on goal and it turned out that Flamengo hit 3 times and scored 2 goals, but Bayern hit 4 times and all 4 shots were on goal. In general, Bayern's accuracy predetermined the winner of this match.

At the 9th minute of the match Bayern were already leading 2-0, so I do not think Flamengo had much of a chance to win. In the middle of the half they pulled one goal back, but at the end of the first half Goretzka scored another goal. The first half ended 3-1 so everything was already clear by then. In the second half Flamengo managed to score another goal, thanks to a penalty, but Kane quickly fixed that, and brought Bayerns lead back to two goals. Bayern and PSG are predictably beating their opponents easily.

Still, the 4-0 that was Miami's game against PSG is not the same as the 4-2 in the Flamengo game that tried to score constantly and fought to the end. Miami had no chances at all in the game with PSG and I don't remember if Messi's team had any shots on goal, but Flamengo gave Bayern a fight.
I think Enrique decided to take pity on his leaders and Messi and in the second half PSG slowed down and did not play the way they did in the first half, but Bayern played at full strength with Flamengo.

I'm also expect a hard battle between Fluminense and Inter today. Here will meet two of the oldest teams in the championship, both teams have an average age of 30+ players, and the goalkeeper of Fluminense is 44 years old, so it is interesting to see how this confrontation will end.

[free-bit.co.in]

It was a good match. Flamengo showed that a few adjustments are still needed, they conceded two goals early on, which completely changed the team's approach. But despite the loss, I felt the team is on the right track. They just need to fix some small mistakes and aim for more consistency throughout the season. Gerson, who is on his way out, will be a big loss in the midfield. I’m not sure how Filipe Luís will manage to deal with that.

Flamengo absolutely brought the flare. They bounced back from conceding 2 goals in nine minutes. That is real spirit. Midfield and attack were kinda hum. I'm just surprised where Bayern managed to shots 5, they made 12. But Bayern's cold-hearted pressing stole the show, Pulgar OG, Kane double, Goretzka strike, and finally, Bayern could make an output of 4 goals from solid chaos. Flamengo showed they belong on this stage, but a defensive error cost them in a 4‑2 defeat .

Next match Kompany vs Enrique, tactical chess awaiting for all, really can't wait.

[asriloni]

I know your disappointment by seeing PSG looked being clueless in the second half, but that's what they wanted. They used 2nd half for the testing purpose by subbed in some players. They could win it with 6 goals at least if they keep their starting IX. I'd call it as their respect to the former player, Messi.

What is there to fight for after the first half 4 goals? The second half was just a normal warm-up game because it doesn't really matter how many goals they've scored.
Yeah if they wanted PSG could have scored 1/2 dozen goals but their players didn't do it, maybe they wanted to see how far Inter Miami's capabilities are.

That's what i meant. The vibes in the dressing room proves how PSG is fully respecting Messi. However, there is a bad rumor about Vitinha who's getting upset, but it seems fake.

I fully believe that's the reason why Enrique decided to subbed off some of his key players in that game.

[KTChampions]

40 pages ago after PSG was beaten ...
The European teams perform so badly, the South Americans and maybe even the other teams will beat them, it will be humiliation for the continent.

Today, oh no, we're going to get 3 quarters with only European teams!!! This is so boring!!!!
The mood is just hilarious, I kind-of wish Al-Hilal to make it to the semi-finals just to see how the mood and the predictions will swing around 270⁰ and then 450 ⁰.

Anyhow, as expected, Al-Hilal has gone down from that insane 1.33 to 1.20 on averge, but if you still believe in their chances here is a quick way to make x51 with a betbuilder:


  You don't win big if you don't risk big time!!!

With 7 European teams out of 8 in the quarterfinals (99% that will be exactly the case) a question arises about this tournament (why is it needed if there is the Champions League) and its format (however, I don’t know what needs to be thought up to distinguish this tournament from the Champions League). Moreover, teams from Europe are far from their best times - Real, Bayern, Inter, City are all quite average, only PSG is good.

I didn't understand your last pick - does it affect the odds? I know that in betbuilder you can add a bunch of outcomes that duplicate each other, but they do not affect the final coefficient.

[verdinio]

it was really tense the Inter Miami vs PSG match and of course in that match it was really entertaining for me because I could see Messi and his friends trying hard to win but unfortunately Messi and his friends failed to win because PSG certainly appeared stronger which finally Inter Miami had to be willing if they lost to PSG with a score of 4-0 and certainly now Inter Miami's struggle is enough to stop here. but in this match fortunately I bet on PSG's victory how about you guys?

but honestly in that match PSG really played well and honestly I didn't expect PSG to score 4 goals against Inter Miami and it's also very unfortunate that Inter Miami failed to take advantage of the opportunity properly. yes now of course PSG advances to the quarter-finals and of course now PSG must be ready again to be able to win against Bayern in the quarter-finals what do you think who will win in that match?

but honestly I am amazed by Luis Enrique who can make a good strategy and of course now Luis must be able to make a better strategy for the upcoming match.

They are not on the same level, so I wasn't surprised by the final outcome of this game, yea it's true that because of the presence of Lionel Messi in the inter Miami team most football lovers out there expected him to do something magical, but what they fail to understand is that the Lionel Messi of today is not the Lionel Messi of five to ten years back, age has real catched up on him, so he is expected to struggle in coping with the higher intensity of football that this psg side plays, besides this inter Miami side doesn't have what it takes to compete with the champions of Europe, so their loss against psg was expecting, because if psg didn't switch off in the second half, I believe that they would have scored even more, so it's a well deserved winning from psg.

They are definitely not at the same level in this FCWC tournament but still there may be many fans who are willing to jump in with criticism for this team's performance. Maybe there's nothing wrong with Paris Saint-Germain winning the treble,So perhaps it was a dream for Inter Miami Football Club to perform a little better against this team in today's Club World Cup match because even the most destructive clubs have admitted defeat to them.

From what I saw Paris Saint-Germain Football Club had a trained lineup in this Club World Cup match but Inter Miami only had some old trained weapons. If these older players were young and were representing this American club then perhaps we would have seen the final outcome of today's match differently.

Inter Miami is a team that as you say is made up of experienced but also very old people and that can now make little difference, they are those classic teams that are there to make up the numbers in international competitions, it's bad to say but it's like that, and in fact it has been seen

[rdluffy]

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For today's games I think I'll bet on Bayern and PSG winning with odds of 2.09 combined
Although I'm hoping the opposite hehe, I hope Flamengo and Inter Miami qualify

I finally got lucky in the round of 16
After a few losing bets in the qualifying phase, I've managed to get all 4 results right so far, of the 4 matches
2 I got the classification right, and above I got the two wins right, Bayern and PSG.

Today I'm going to make a multiple with the victories of Manchester City and Inter Milan, combined with 2.16 odds
Again I'm rooting for the underdogs, but I think it's difficult for Al Hilal and Fluminense to qualify.

[stompix]

~ but if you still believe in their chances here is a quick way to make x51 with a betbuilder:

I didn't understand your last pick - does it affect the odds? I know that in betbuilder you can add a bunch of outcomes that duplicate each other, but they do not affect the final coefficient.

Nice catch
At first, I thought it was a mistake too in my rush to collect odds but there is something fishy going on there, same bet is now 41x

and of course still 41x even with the last option but...



Why are these the same when one is 9.5 and the other is 3.75?
Probably a bug, or am I just tired from the heat?

With 7 European teams out of 8 in the quarterfinals (99% that will be exactly the case) a question arises about this tournament (why is it needed if there is the Champions League) and its format (however, I don’t know what needs to be thought up to distinguish this tournament from the Champions League).

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[Black Mbaye]

40 pages ago after PSG was beaten ...
The European teams perform so badly, the South Americans and maybe even the other teams will beat them, it will be humiliation for the continent.

Today, oh no, we're going to get 3 quarters with only European teams!!! This is so boring!!!!
The mood is just hilarious, I kind-of wish Al-Hilal to make it to the semi-finals just to see how the mood and the predictions will swing around 270⁰ and then 450 ⁰.

Anyhow, as expected, Al-Hilal has gone down from that insane 1.33 to 1.20 on averge, but if you still believe in their chances here is a quick way to make x51 with a betbuilder:


  You don't win big if you don't risk big time!!!

With 7 European teams out of 8 in the quarterfinals (99% that will be exactly the case) a question arises about this tournament (why is it needed if there is the Champions League) and its format (however, I don’t know what needs to be thought up to distinguish this tournament from the Champions League). Moreover, teams from Europe are far from their best times - Real, Bayern, Inter, City are all quite average, only PSG is good.

I didn't understand your last pick - does it affect the odds? I know that in betbuilder you can add a bunch of outcomes that duplicate each other, but they do not affect the final coefficient.

Although European teams are not very good, they are clearly superior to their opponents at the moment. Palmeiras managed to advance only in the first match, but they did not play a European team either. European teams are gaining the upper hand, there are currently a few matches left to play. Inter will play Fluminense in the evening and Manchester City and Al Hilal will be played at night. The probability of European teams winning both of these matches is very high. When you think about it like this, it is not surprising that European teams were the superior side of the World Cup. Still, it added a nice excitement to the summer season.

[Arenga pinnata]

Flamengo got crashed out of the competition but their yesterday performance was nothing short of excellent. They really put up a serious fight with Bayern Munich going head to head with them. Despite the huge gap between the two teams in terms of players quality and recognition, Flamengo were playing Bayern like some regular team and made them look like average team. It was just unfortunate that Flamengo had to be eliminated simply because this is football where not the most hardworking team win but the most luckiest team. Flamengo deserved every accolades, their dominance against the Germans giant was something to be recognised. A lot of changed in this Bayern Munich team and they aren't longer the same Bayern Munich that we know in the past.

Flamengo is indeed an extraordinary team. They were just unlucky because they had to directly face a strong team like Bayern Munich in the round of 16. Bayern is a giant club like PSG, Man City and Real Madrid. So facing Bayern is a very difficult thing. But Flamengo proved that they could even match Bayern's performance in that match. It's just that the better finish was still won by Bayern who were more effective in building attacks.

Now it's Bayern who I think are unlucky in the quarter-finals. Because they have to face PSG, I think even Bayern will have difficulty in that match. The match will be fierce and exciting. And yes, it's quite difficult to predict it.

[Zoomic]

I know your disappointment by seeing PSG looked being clueless in the second half, but that's what they wanted. They used 2nd half for the testing purpose by subbed in some players. They could win it with 6 goals at least if they keep their starting IX. I'd call it as their respect to the former player, Messi.

That's what i meant. The vibes in the dressing room proves how PSG is fully respecting Messi. However, there is a bad rumor about Vitinha who's getting upset, but it seems fake.

I fully believe that's the reason why Enrique decided to subbed off some of his key players in that game.

The reason why Enrique decided to sub off some of key players is not that they were respecting Messi. It was because he had already won the match in the first half, of what needs is it for him to keep his star players if he already won the match. Remember that these players are supposed to be resting by now and preparing for the pre-season.

Coaches are afraid of injuries for their players during this FIFA club world cup. So all coaches are trying their best to make their key players play lesser minutes in every match. I don't dispute the fact that PSG respects Messi, but Enrique didn't sub his key players because of Messi.

[SmartCharpa]

Flamengo played very decent yesterday and had a chance to win, but two Bayern players Kane and Goretzka managed two great shots from outside the penalty area, but still Flamengo fought to the end and even managed to reduce the score with a penalty to 3:2, but the class of Bayern is certainly much higher and when Kane scored 4 it became clear that Bayern will win.
Flamengo was not far behind Bayern in shots on goal and it turned out that Flamengo hit 3 times and scored 2 goals, but Bayern hit 4 times and all 4 shots were on goal. In general, Bayern's accuracy predetermined the winner of this match.

Flamengo had a great game against Bayern Munich, but the victory was not in their hands. Flamengo had 51% ball possession with four corners the same as Bayern Munich, and 3 shots on target. Bayern Munich won the match, as we expected. Bayern Munich was my favorite to win, despite the fact that we all know how difficult the Brazilian teams were in the group stage. Bayern Munich proved that they are one of Europe top teams. I expected Flamengo to surprise us when they were playing 2-3, but after Kane scored the fourth goal, I believed Bayern Munich had advanced to the next round.

However, Bayern Munich will face PSG in the next round, can we say that this is the end of the tournament for Bayern Munich this season? Bayern Munich does not have great players to compete with PSG, some people believe they finished second in the group stage to avoid playing against Chelsea. If that's true, they'll face a squad that is stronger than Chelsea. I can't wait to see how both teams dominate the game.

[Pandu Geddon]

Palmeiras' next step in the quarter finals will be difficult when they have to face Chelsea. Previously, they did not face strong teams that were favored in this competition. But their performance was not bad, even holding Porto and Inter Miami to a draw. Palmeiras may not be favored in the next match, but I agree with you, they will definitely make it difficult for Chelsea. There is a worst possibility for Chelsea in the quarter finals, because they were also defeated by Flamengo, so a surprise might happen.

I don't even see them challenging Chelsea, they are good quite alright but Chelsea is far from their level and I don't see them giving Chelsea a hard time. Chelsea have improved quite a bit so they should be able to win the game without any pressure.

Hopefully, like that, and we can see the semi-finals that will be dominated by top European clubs. It's just that I'm talking about the worst possibility and the situation that causes drama in the match. If Chelsea gets a disadvantage at the beginning of the match, the situation will definitely not be good for Chelsea until the end of the match.
Hopefully that doesn't happen.

[AprilioMP]

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The first sketch is right on target from the two matches that have been completed, my friend. I mean, your analysis for the quarterfinals is correct. Palmeiras vs Chelsea. PSG vs Bayern.
Now we just wait to see if the Inter Milan vs Manchester City sketch will happen in the quarter finals before your Dortmund vs Rewl Madrid guess.
But that way, I'm sure this sketch you made for the quarter-finals will be right on target.

[hyudien]

The last game of the night was way better honestly.    Even though Bayern Munich made a great start to the game, Flamengo didn't give up easily. 6 goals in total and absolutely not a one-sided game!

Even though they lost 4-2 I think Flamengo really should be applauded for their performance, they had more shooting opportunities and also a higher percentage of ball possession, it was one of the interesting spectacles from the representatives of the Brazilian league. There are only two representatives left from the league, Palmeiras has qualified, only one more is Fluminense, interesting to look forward to when they face Inter later.

PSG - Bayern Munich is going to be lots of fun hopefully... Do I have a favourite in this? Yeah. I think PSG will be the advancing side. Dembele is back so I think their chance is higher now. But in regular time? I'm not sure about that.

Luis Enrique vs Kompany, a tactical match between two great coaches, I haven't thought about a fixed choice from their match, but PSG is indeed quite worthy of being the favorite considering that Enrique has more experience in the Europa competition. Hopefully the odds from the bookies are quite balanced for them.