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[pawlo74]

another way which might not seem fair to everyone is to find an escrow, a person which people trust and then let people who have mintpal accounts give him their log in details so the escrow can log in and see the Cinni balances of people and their withdrawal address in order to make the list manually.

I want to hear peoples thoughts on how we can solve this problem.

I'm online and prepared to provide escrow for you! Send me a PM if you'd like my assistance.

I need escrow service, I have never used before.
What should I do first ? Thanks in advance.

I am waiting for the answer from escrow service

Get ready your Mintpal log in details PLEASE.

Thank you

[gr8n8]

i am open to any solution that works

[pawlo74]

i am open to any solution that works

cheers, have you got your Mintpal details ready ?

[pawlo74]

I'm online and prepared to provide escrow for you! Send me a PM if you'd like my assistance.

Hi.

I need escrow service, I have never used before.
What should I do first ? Thanks in advance.

If you could start a group PM with the other party it would be best,
Thanks

OK I'm waiting for Cinnidev now. Are you ready to contact devthedev ?

[gr8n8]

i am open to any solution that works

cheers, have you got your Mintpal details ready ?

yep ready

[pawlo74]

Well yes i'm waiting too.
Is mintpal going to send the Cinni or atleast provide a list with their users Cinni balances and their withdrawal addresses or are they going to steal the Cinni.

You guys have to understand the consequences of disabling their address. It will prevent people from ever having a chance to get back their Cinni from mintpal.
and that is alot of people, half of Cinni is in mintpals address.
the only way those people won't lose is if we wait for mintpal to send the  Cinni , or if they provide a list that has peoples Cinni balances and their withdrawal addresses.
those are the most fair ways i think that will solve this problem.
another way which might not seem fair to everyone is to find an escrow, a person which people trust and then let people who have mintpal accounts give him their log in details so the escrow can log in and see the Cinni balances of people and their withdrawal address in order to make the list manually.

I want to hear peoples thoughts on how we can solve this problem.

thats incorrect. you can disable those addresses and reenable them at any time in future release should mintpal situation change.  its not fair to those who have supported cinni and the network that a few users who keep all their coins on their exchanges hold back the development of this coin.  you are also misleading people that mintpal is going to give any coins back, they are not, only what was in the hot wallets, the rest is gone. 

the most important thing to do is prevent any "mining"/staking/PoS blocks and spending/transactions from those addresses.  otherwise you continue with a situation where the thief is believed to control a large amount of cinni and can attempt to fork, doublespend or attack the main blockchain that all other exchanges and users are on. 

You should update the wallet to prevent any spending or PoS from mintpal addresses before its too late.  This will allow the network to ignore those addresses and stake and prevent mintpal trying to fork or get away with stolen coins.  They can always be reenable at a future date should mintpal give back what they have stolen, but this is a critical change that will prevent dumping on other exchanges. 

Most people that support this coin kept Cinni in their wallets and not all on exchanges, so mintpal loss will not affect them, and the amount of cinni that is claimed to be lossed is very low, so far only 119,796 CINNI has been lost by users if you check the mintpal/moolah losses thread here "Moolah Scam on Mintpal and Missing Funds" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0, so you are really only hurting the real supporters of your coin.  There probably a bit more then that but obviously most people are unconcerned about their coins and have not put forward their losses.

Remember also not all the coins belong to users, mintpal/moolah and their pump groups they created manipulated alot of the markets and much of the coins are "exchange owned" as they successfully tricked many with their pump and dump scams.  the amount of btc claimed lost is probably higher then what existed in wallets and people were likely to be trading with fake bitcoin that the exchange would have used to pump coins with. 

The best thing for cinni right now is to block PoS/Staking and prevent movement of Mintpal Cinni with a wallet update.  Addresses can always be unblocked with a later release but once those funds move you will lose this option.

Cinnicoin dev just has been online and no response ?? Weird !
He claims has lost 700k Cinni and he doesn't care ? That's makes no sense to me.
Sorry everyone but is getting clear to me that Cinnicoin is a scam !
What if only 119,796 CINNI has been lost by users and the rest owned by Cinnicoin himself or Mintpal/Moolah P&D Group ?
Cinnidev can very easy prove if it's true or not by giving his Mintpal login details to devthedev escrow service, devthedev is waiting for us !

Remember you might lose possibility to log in to Mintpal at any time and than will be to late !!!

[arfcz]

Dont tell me, please, that my 191k CINNI is lost 

[thiec]

I think its time to say goodbye for cinni 

[wanvo]

We have a good saying:
Do not believe do not fear do not ask
I lost CINNI 3 BTC just believing. Will science for the future.

[digit]

For anyone that is interested, more infomation on the XC/Xcurrency/Halycon/Blocknet scam -  [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841223.0

[gr8n8]

i dont think cinnicoin is a scam - and i do believe he had as many coins as he said he did on mintpal
i believe he wants a solution as much as us - it's just hard to find one..

everyone please keep a little hope that as a community we can work something out..

[pawlo74]

i dont think cinnicoin is a scam - and i do believe he had as many coins as he said he did on mintpal
i believe he wants a solution as much as us - it's just hard to find one..

everyone please keep a little hope that as a community we can work something out..

All right. If that's a case what you believe why he didn't answer. What stops him ? He found solution and we have solution.
 
Other thing we've been waiting so long and we as an investors have a right to check him and see any of his Cinni 0.2 or Timebank project. Have we or not ?
gr8n8 would you like to see that or no ??

[sdersdf3]

everyone please keep a little hope that as a community we can work something out..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot

[sva_h4cky0]

everyone please keep a little hope that as a community we can work something out..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot

 

 

[CinniCoin]

Instead of paying escrow so much why don't i just do it?
In the new Cinni im not going to include mintpal's addresses.
Going to make a list of the balances and withdrawal addresses of the people who send me their mintpal log in so i can see how many Cinni coins are in your balance and your withdrawal address.
Then im going to include that list in the new Cinni.

I promise not to share any private info like your email or something like that.

The list of Cinni balances and withdrawal address for Cinni would be made public though. your name or email will not be included in the list.

After making the list i will delete all the emails people send with their log in details. i have a good password for my account also but will delete the messages even though.
will even clear browsing history and data so the browser doesn't remember your emails.

Ok?

I promise 100% that i have good intentions.

Lets move forward. so we should be done with this mintpal problem and put it behind us.

[Papcio77]

I trust you cinnidev. I sent you my mintpal data. Put me on the list for cinni 2

[sdersdf3]

lol

[CinniCoin]

Im going to keep a list here and add to it as i get more pms.
I will make 2 lists in this post, ones who have been log in verified and ones that don't have proof in their balance on mintpal log in
I will leave it to you guys to decide whether or not to credit ones that don't have proof in their balance on mintpal log in. Maybe you will see it on a case by case basis , i'll leave it to you guys to decide later on that.

• login verified 678,743.79205977 CINNI  Jci1RA3YYK7uVHnM3EXieYFkDsr53katQS
  
• login verified 219,843.88955799 CINNI JKPBvnJNQuEsV9asJZvQVzaFk9uSJp2i1V
• login verified 191,054.02829517 CINNI JK4nbAjQDEuRPvxV7Nrytu9Cj5nRYS6A75
• login verified 173,325.38248811 CINNI Jb5xHoiW6e47PPbJAhXXGh3145HMxuC4z4
• login verified 103,652.82707236 CINNI JQ7qjcxFv9S6oofL8cEdkuo9aHwd6C2HR7
• login verified 39,637.85014924 CINNI JXm4HAL6K8nPoCV4hpcZQsgFq1F3RkK67f

• login verified 30,591.22620603 CINNI JNxCcEYhqmW8jKqLZLuxA7TY6dW9GRQ8Nw
• login verified 20,190.15918192 CINNI Jaq6J7nNmb4vZhTcMbERbk3iictnTt8dvK
• login verified 14,012.74054856 CINNI JhJrss5H4qTedbhU3GXhTMwUDP1obvkGEA
• login verified 12,999.98000000 CINNI JUEukAUD9XzegDffG2gQU5cASrDLY2T2oA
• login verified 7,007.29017357 CINNI JVfjSQhKkGFRgiBWXpVqrSQztrGihvjXDq
• login verified 5,666.29525500 CINNI JZNNSrmbMJCGAhU2nyT68sVBqqqtWDzvTX
• login verified 2,603.24329100 CINNI Jb2eofAvvGXXeKsr58maH1V6tXebbgtaff
• login verified 1,823.97551840 CINNI JWqWbVaxBxXZ82hCJxGuZNAkzxDKxW7tWj
• login verified 825.46086300 CINNI JS9HbcYk8G1rtYJpEmABgbsWX5aWaPqrDZ
• login verified 15.00000000 CINNI  JQHDEuvCVeSzKLuetKEbV6yQLomJxQHWVS

• not verified 69,296.10054321 CINNI  Jgvf8fBmrTGTfrwDKRTU7azLgMiGuKC7ed
        has pictures of withdrawal, made by mintpal v2 support so his balance is not shown in the login but he didnt recieve his cinni.
        i believe him honestly because even before 1 month he told me about it. his story adds up.
        its up to you guys to decide.
      
        update: his balance will be included. alot of people said that they agree to include it.
   

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list updated
reminder: if you have cinni on exchanges or if your address on that list is a exchange address then the exchanges will get your cinni not you.
please withdraw from exchanges, and PM me if your address on this list is an exchange address.

[Papcio77]

I believe in justice. For me it is a lot of money that I lost by Mintpal. I lost my health a lot. I believe in justice and I know that you feel my CINNI.

[pawlo74]

I believe in justice. For me it is a lot of money that I lost by Mintpal. I lost my health a lot. I believe in justice and I know that you feel my CINNI.

Bloody hell ! Google translation is a shit, my English is rubbish but I can not understand what he is trying to say 
I think no one has nothing against credit his loses and we can accept that.

PS.
To Cinnidev.

I do not trust you any more mate.

1. I lost my trust first when you admitted to manipulate Cinni market, that is cheating I would even say crime.
2. It is very suspicious to me that you don't want Escrow probably you want to hide how many coins you have. I the future you will probably dump on us again.

Obviously I might be wrong but I want to be honest and say it straight how I feel.