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F**k your holier-than-thou attitude Mr.Kosmost...and get off that high horse..
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clayop
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September 16, 2014, 06:25:14 PM |
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whoever sent 60M for our karma working fund, thank you very much!
TX ID: 0c3347754ab1f674ed6313df581f9eeaddb0d4c6b888fa4aaad872d255a1ca0e
Current Total Fund is 92,000,099 Karma.
Donation Update : At the average current market price of Karma at 30 litoshis this is about 27.5 LTC's or about 0.30195 BTC (let's hope that karma price will not drop significantly when we have to pay someone. While our BTC Donations: 0.07280089 BTC Thank you very much again, please send in your share for the development of other Karma APPS and services to these addresses: BTC: 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD KARMA's WORKING FUND: KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs60 mil is from a friend of mine. He does not use BCT but I told him about donation program and he did it with pleasure and hope. I will send additional 10 mil soon. edit: is it different program from previous one that I donated? (I sent some Karma to KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm) What's the difference?
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September 16, 2014, 06:53:32 PM |
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BTW
whoever sent 60M for our karma working fund, thank you very much!
TX ID: 0c3347754ab1f674ed6313df581f9eeaddb0d4c6b888fa4aaad872d255a1ca0e
Current Total Fund is 92,000,099 Karma.
Donation Update : At the average current market price of Karma at 30 litoshis this is about 27.5 LTC's or about 0.30195 BTC (let's hope that karma price will not drop significantly when we have to pay someone. While our BTC Donations: 0.07280089 BTC Thank you very much again, please send in your share for the development of other Karma APPS and services to these addresses: BTC: 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD KARMA's WORKING FUND: KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs60 mil is from a friend of mine. He does not use BCT but I told him about donation program and he did it with pleasure and hope. I will send additional 10 mil soon. edit: is it different program from previous one that I donated? (I sent some Karma to KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm) What's the difference? Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto
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clayop
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September 16, 2014, 06:57:05 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue.
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September 16, 2014, 07:07:54 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue. How much did you send for FB before?
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clayop
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September 16, 2014, 07:25:54 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue. How much did you send for FB before? 50mil
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easteagle13
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September 16, 2014, 07:31:38 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue. How much did you send for FB before? 50mil Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81
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gnpwdr
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September 16, 2014, 08:30:55 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue. How much did you send for FB before? 50mil Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81 Just sent 1M to the working fund. thank you for your efforts!
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TheLittleDuke
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September 16, 2014, 08:42:00 PM Last edit: September 16, 2014, 09:12:24 PM by TheLittleDuke |
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Thelittleduke:
Could you please share with us your intention to help us with taking over the services and trademarks? what do you intend to do with them? Why the desire to step in? What would that mean to us if you take them over? Do you accept the fact that whiles in your possession they will be still owned by the whole community. Will you have difficulty releasing them back to us after months of you keeping them?
You linkin profile shows you have had tons of experience in management and are a software engineer. Both of these are strong assets that would benefit karma. But we never talked with you and the community knows nothing of your intentions.
We also do not know if you understands our community as well. This community likes to speculate a lot and does little to join those who are trying to help. We do not want to fall into an other category where services are closed due to lack of involvement from karmanians.
i can't blame them as most them think by buying and holding is the help we need on their parts. Which is an insane illusion as they buy and hold for their own interest. This is a general consensus on whole crypto world. We are having difficult time trying to break this mentality. Therefore who ever is willing to take over the services will have to understand it will be a long journey and they will probably get stuck picking up the cost. We will try out best to collect funds to reimburse you but it will not happen easily. So you must understand what you're walking into
Bitwho- Thank you for engaging in a thoughtful and open dialogue. I appreciate and welcome the questions and will do my best to answer them. I've been writing code since just pre Apple ][+ days. I've written compilers and runtime systems, hold or contributed to several patents, and lately since getting an MBA have been doing a tour of duty through a variety of industries. I built an ISP from just three analog phone lines (1 x 28.8k upstream and 2 x 14.4k for customers!) up through six acquisitions and one merger consolidating five data centers and taking in services via OC-12. Including filing and becoming a licensed CLEC to offer VOIP services in MN using a Class-5 Metaswitch. I still code to this day, preferring Python and a little PHP when necessary. Fundamentally there is only so much hashpower chasing too many coins. We are already seeing the very beginning of a consolidation with the AUXPOW work the Dogecoin team put in place to allow it to be merge mined along with Litecoin. The ASICS have sucked most of the fun out of mining. The future of crypto is in value-added services. My interest in Karma is multi-fold. I like the name and the marketing side of it since day one. My own personal philosophy centers on Buddhism so the whole "karmic debt / karmic boomerang" thing appeals to me. I took over the Givecoin when it was on the verge of falling apart as well -- partially because we had made an investment into the coinbase by acquiring shares on the open market Bittrex (we currently hold about 15% of all mined coins to date) -- as the reserve / internal currency for https://doabitofgood.comThere is a natural synergy between the two stated purposes as well as a potential to merge mine the two -- or even combine them in a new better coin. As of right now we are still listed on Bittrex in a disabled status while we fix our broken KGW and migrate to a Proof of Stake based model which is more compatible we believe with the tenants around doing good. Our REALLY exciting prospect at Strength in Numbers Foundation is the http://www.idcoins.org -- a coinbase for Identity and Reputation -- Karma could be a good related side chain to act as the stand in for the Reputation component. As for the community I have a pretty good idea of what motivates them. I have also watched with great dismay at the lack of sophistication and understanding of basic market mechanics. Fundamentally Karma is a 'product' and a product needs a consumer base. You cannot push the product onto the market and expect it to reward you. You cannot impact the price by throwing more hashpower at it. As for reimbursement, I don't need any. I've been mining since 2010 time frame and in fact built the worlds first OCTO-BAMT system. I have more than enough crypto-assets of my own to leverage and I have grown and sold several businesses. What I WOULD want of the community is a bunch of "Karma Ambassadors" -- people who do outreach and build the community by getting more people involved. Introducing our coins to groups who could use it -- create donations to get them involved -- because fundamentally we need to EXPAND the economy and create more velocity in the transactions. Personally I would like to see the coinbase have some sensical and rational number of coins -- 92 Billion is pretty unbelievable and very few people can get their head wrapped around a number that large. Also, I would strongly suggest the base move to a more POS based reward system for those that want to hoard coins. Take marketing number like 10 Billion -- closer to the world population and socialize a "karma for everybody" approach. It could become the coinbase of reputation -- but I think the current holders have to give up the fantasy that its going to magically increase in value because they want it to. I never thought Bitcoin was the "be all end all" of crypto currencies but rather a stepping stone to something greater. I don't think Karma is the end game either. We can create something that actually captures peoples hearts and minds and remove as much of the taint of "get rich quick" odor so many alts suffer from. The coins that are going to survive have to offer something other than a currency. Bitcoin already holds that designation. Whatever advantage Litecoin held with a faster confirmation and a "harder algorithm" as all but evaporated. The only thing X11,X13 et al offers is a way to "re-level the playing field for new entrants" -- nothing is immune from being turned into an ASIC. What we need are new models of reward like "proof of storage" and others. I hope that helps to explain my background and interest as well as some of what's top of mind for me and Karma. Let me know what else you'd like to know? -dvd
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September 16, 2014, 08:58:06 PM |
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Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors. Send a message to me when you found one. Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site? Please be kind with your judgment. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma
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September 16, 2014, 08:58:56 PM |
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Wow, you are both generous! Thanks for your donations, the KJTXThjDznwqqJiv33kPqxrxGa52CWJ4Bm donations is for our Facebook recruitment promotion fund. While this KRuPCSjz5YgatDETwiwERLZffEstmRYbCs is for our developers payment fund (Karma services) BTW I received you last 10M. You can always check the values on our block explorer. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto Can I move some of my donation for FB recruitment to developer payment fund, say 30mil? Because I think that the most priority we have is a developer issue. How much did you send for FB before? 50mil Very well, I will pass the 30M to the other address as you request. DONE 64f49d793459aae92f2a692073b96a5f715528176405975b62db84741ecbbd81 Just sent 1M to the working fund. thank you for your efforts! Your first post is about generosity...indeed karma have a hope. Thank you.
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MultiDice
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September 16, 2014, 09:01:42 PM |
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Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors. Send a message to me when you found one. Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site? Please be kind with your judgment. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karmaCool site EDIT: Is it just me or the title says 'Karma - Digital Monay'
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easteagle13
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September 16, 2014, 09:19:06 PM |
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Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors. Send a message to me when you found one. Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site? Please be kind with your judgment. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karmaCool site EDIT: Is it just me or the title says 'Karma - Digital Monay' Yah it's one of the errors I found out too.. corrected atm thanks!
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September 16, 2014, 09:20:38 PM |
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I'm using the latest Karma wallet v0.8.6.2.5, the wallet does not sync. Its stuck at "2 weeks behind". I deleted peers.dat and reopened the wallet, still it doesn't work. I kept the wallet open for more than 24 hours now. Can anybody help me to resolve the sync issue?
I had invested more than 150M in KarmaShares and it looks like KarmaShares concept is cancelled now. I was out of Crypto for a while and now I see website quoting "Karmashares is permanently offline. All coins have been returned to coin-holders."
Has everyone got back their coins which they invested in KarmaShares?
Appreciate your help.
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mouseman
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September 16, 2014, 09:22:53 PM |
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Yes, I have personally received 100% of my KarmaShares coins back and I have not heard anyone else state they have not as well. I'm using the latest Karma wallet v0.8.6.2.5, the wallet does not sync. Its stuck at "2 weeks behind". I deleted peers.dat and reopened the wallet, still it doesn't work. I kept the wallet open for more than 24 hours now. Can anybody help me to resolve the sync issue?
I had invested more than 150M in KarmaShares and it looks like KarmaShares concept is cancelled now. I was out of Crypto for a while and now I see website quoting "Karmashares is permanently offline. All coins have been returned to coin-holders."
Has everyone got back their coins which they invested in KarmaShares?
Appreciate your help.
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September 16, 2014, 09:31:38 PM |
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A most excellent post. Thelittleduke:
Could you please share with us your intention to help us with taking over the services and trademarks? what do you intend to do with them? Why the desire to step in? What would that mean to us if you take them over? Do you accept the fact that whiles in your possession they will be still owned by the whole community. Will you have difficulty releasing them back to us after months of you keeping them?
You linkin profile shows you have had tons of experience in management and are a software engineer. Both of these are strong assets that would benefit karma. But we never talked with you and the community knows nothing of your intentions.
We also do not know if you understands our community as well. This community likes to speculate a lot and does little to join those who are trying to help. We do not want to fall into an other category where services are closed due to lack of involvement from karmanians.
i can't blame them as most them think by buying and holding is the help we need on their parts. Which is an insane illusion as they buy and hold for their own interest. This is a general consensus on whole crypto world. We are having difficult time trying to break this mentality. Therefore who ever is willing to take over the services will have to understand it will be a long journey and they will probably get stuck picking up the cost. We will try out best to collect funds to reimburse you but it will not happen easily. So you must understand what you're walking into
Bitwho- Thank you for engaging in a thoughtful and open dialogue. I appreciate and welcome the questions and will do my best to answer them. I've been writing code since just pre Apple ][+ days. I've written compilers and runtime systems, hold or contributed to several patents, and lately since getting an MBA have been doing a tour of duty through a variety of industries. I built an ISP from just three analog phone lines (1 x 28.8k upstream and 2 x 14.4k for customers!) up through six acquisitions and one merger consolidating five data centers and taking in services via OC-12. Including filing and becoming a licensed CLEC to offer VOIP services in MN using a Class-5 Metaswitch. I still code to this day, preferring Python and a little PHP when necessary. Fundamentally there is only so much hashpower chasing too many coins. We are already seeing the very beginning of a consolidation with the AUXPOW work the Dogecoin team put in place to allow it to be merge mined along with Litecoin. The ASICS have sucked most of the fun out of mining. The future of crypto is in value-added services. My interest in Karma is multi-fold. I like the name and the marketing side of it since day one. My own personal philosophy centers on Buddhism so the whole "karmic debt / karmic boomerang" thing appeals to me. I took over the Givecoin when it was on the verge of falling apart as well -- partially because we had made an investment into the coinbase by acquiring shares on the open market Bittrex (we currently hold about 15% of all mined coins to date) -- as the reserve / internal currency for https://doabitofgood.comThere is a natural synergy between the two stated purposes as well as a potential to merge mine the two -- or even combine them in a new better coin. As of right now we are still listed on Bittrex in a disabled status while we fix our broken KGW and migrate to a Proof of Stake based model which is more compatible we believe with the tenants around doing good. Our REALLY exciting prospect at Strength in Numbers Foundation is the http://www.idcoins.org -- a coinbase for Identity and Reputation -- Karma could be a good related side chain to act as the stand in for the Reputation component. As for the community I have a pretty good idea of what motivates them. I have also watched with great dismay at the lack of sophistication and understanding of basic market mechanics. Fundamentally Karma is a 'product' and a product needs a consumer base. You cannot push the product onto the market and expect it to reward you. You cannot impact the price by throwing more hashpower at it. As for reimbursement, I don't need any. I've been mining since 2010 time frame and in fact built the worlds first OCTO-BAMT system. I have more than enough crypto-assets of my own to leverage and I have grown and sold several businesses. What I WOULD want of the community is a bunch of "Karma Ambassadors" -- people who do outreach and build the community by getting more people involved. Introducing our coins to groups who could use it -- create donations to get them involved -- because fundamentally we need to EXPAND the economy and create more velocity in the transactions. Personally I would like to see the coinbase have some sensical and rational number of coins -- 92 Billion is pretty unbelievable and very few people can get their head wrapped around a number that large. Also, I would strongly suggest the base move to a more POS based reward system for those that want to hoard coins. Take marketing number like 10 Billion -- closer to the world population and socialize a "karma for everybody" approach. It could become the coinbase of reputation -- but I think the current holders have to give up the fantasy that its going to magically increase in value because they want it to. I never thought Bitcoin was the "be all end all" of crypto currencies but rather a stepping stone to something greater. I don't think Karma is the end game either. We can create something that actually captures peoples hearts and minds and remove as much of the taint of "get rich quick" odor so many alts suffer from. The coins that are going to survive have to offer something other than a currency. Bitcoin already holds that designation. Whatever advantage Litecoin held with a faster confirmation and a "harder algorithm" as all but evaporated. The only thing X11,X13 et al offers is a way to "re-level the playing field for new entrants" -- nothing is immune from being turned into an ASIC. What we need are new models of reward like "proof of storage" and others. I hope that helps to explain my background and interest as well as some of what's top of mind for me and Karma. Let me know what else you'd like to know? -dvd
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September 16, 2014, 09:33:51 PM |
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I'm using the latest Karma wallet v0.8.6.2.5, the wallet does not sync. Its stuck at "2 weeks behind". I deleted peers.dat and reopened the wallet, still it doesn't work. I kept the wallet open for more than 24 hours now. Can anybody help me to resolve the sync issue?
I had invested more than 150M in KarmaShares and it looks like KarmaShares concept is cancelled now. I was out of Crypto for a while and now I see website quoting "Karmashares is permanently offline. All coins have been returned to coin-holders."
Has everyone got back their coins which they invested in KarmaShares?
Appreciate your help.
Please try the following: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbo27XbGag Text: If Karma wallet is not syncing try to do what the video above suggests: click “help”, “debug window”, “console”, a command line window will appear. Near the bottom, type in: addnode altcoin.dk:9432 add addnode altcoin.dk:9436 add If the above did not solve the problem, download a working peers.dat file mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/download/vry3yj0azha45de/peers.dat Close your Karma wallet, and access C:\Users\[replaceWithUserName]\AppData\Roaming (easiest to find by copy-pasting into the RUN DIALOG BOX of Windows). Locate and open the Karma folder located within. Copy the downloaded file and paste it into the Karma folder, deleting the old peers.dat in the process.
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September 16, 2014, 09:40:33 PM |
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Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors. Send a message to me when you found one. Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site? Please be kind with your judgment. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karmaGreat site. A few remarks: 1- " In this way, Karma acts as a reward system for people and groups to do good things. And, we offer privacy, security, and extremely low transaction fees when giving Karma to others." Maybe it's better like this: In this way, Karma acts as a reward system for people and groups to do good things. We offer privacy, security, and extremely low transaction fees when giving Karma to others. 2- WHY CHOOSE KARMA needs some padding.. 3- HOW TO GET KARMA it's way down 4- EXCHANGES page "Exchanges, are market place for digital money like Karma, if you have other kinds of digital money, you may look for an exchange that is accepting it, in exchange for Karma, or exchange your regular money into bitcoin or litecoin before exchanging them to Karma." Maybe be it's better like this: Exchanges are marketplaces for digital money like Karma. If you have any other kind of digital money, you may look for an exchange that is trading it in exchange for Karma or exchange your regular money into Bitcoin or Litecoin before exchanging them to Karma. 5- KARMA GAMES page Maybe it would be better to put the games side by side. 6- WHAT IS KARMA page KARMA TERMS is way down.. Just some observations. Regards. Edit: Google Chrome.
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September 16, 2014, 09:49:21 PM |
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Kindly test drive the site that I prepared. This will be my proposed site as our new face for the public. Please PROOFREAD for spelling, grammatical, technical and factual errors. Send a message to me when you found one. Then tell me, should we retain the old site, or should we use this new site? Please be kind with your judgment. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karmaGreat site. A few remarks: 1- " In this way, Karma acts as a reward system for people and groups to do good things. And, we offer privacy, security, and extremely low transaction fees when giving Karma to others." Maybe it's better like this: In this way, Karma acts as a reward system for people and groups to do good things. We offer privacy, security, and extremely low transaction fees when giving Karma to others. 2- WHY CHOOSE KARMA needs some padding.. 3- HOW TO GET KARMA it's way down 4- EXCHANGES page "Exchanges, are market place for digital money like Karma, if you have other kinds of digital money, you may look for an exchange that is accepting it, in exchange for Karma, or exchange your regular money into bitcoin or litecoin before exchanging them to Karma." Maybe be it's better like this: Exchanges are marketplaces for digital money like Karma. If you have any other kind of digital money, you may look for an exchange that is trading it in exchange for Karma or exchange your regular money into Bitcoin or Litecoin before exchanging them to Karma. 5- KARMA GAMES page Maybe it would be better to put the games side by side. 6- WHAT IS KARMA page KARMA TERMS is way down.. Just some observations. Regards. Edit: Google Chrome. Thanks for these, corrected and some that can be adjusted has been adjusted. Page constraint and layout makes it impossible to place the games side by side...try to play a game. Anyway.. Ill be sleeping now..thanks to all.
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September 16, 2014, 10:23:01 PM Last edit: September 16, 2014, 10:42:30 PM by Alphi |
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My interest in Karma is multi-fold. I like the name and the marketing side of it since day one. My own personal philosophy centers on Buddhism so the whole "karmic debt / karmic boomerang" thing appeals to me. I took over the Givecoin when it was on the verge of falling apart as well -- partially because we had made an investment into the coinbase by acquiring shares on the open market Bittrex (we currently hold about 15% of all mined coins to date) -- as the reserve / internal currency for https://doabitofgood.comDuke any contributions (advice or otherwise) that you make to the community are welcomed and appreciated. with that being said.. as you can clearly see now, we already have one person who claimed to be the messiah going back on their word and taking unilateral action to sell assets owned by the community without community consultation. that process has been extremely destructive to that persons reputation and the community as a whole. I will never again do business with a person who claimed to "donate" their time and resources to a project all to turn around and start selling things and making changes that benefit nobody.this is not the spirit of Karma (either the coin or the philosophy) the senate has turned on Caesar because he took a republic which was built by the people for the people and tried rule over it like a king. the last thing this community needs is another person coming in and claiming to own Karma and making unilateral decisions on the core system and how it operates. this is not how open source crypto communities work and it is not how the community will grow over time... you say that you worked on the BAMT project?.. well then you of all people should understand this principle. feel free to buy services from Kosmost.. nobody will stop you (except maybe his shareholders)... feel free to work for the good of the community everyone will support you... but if you want to "own" Karma or any of its core assets then you have to join the community by owning or mining the coins just like everyone else. I am one of the original members of the Karma team that formed after the original developer Karmagood was struggling (its all there in the history).. I have fought hard to keep the non profit "Karma" separated from any "for Profit" entity like Karmashares LLC and I will continue to do so in the future. I support free enterprise just as I supported Karmashares' right to do business within the Karma ecosystem.. but there should always be a clear line between the Non Profit Open source core of Karma and the For Profit entities that want to use Karma, otherwise we will be back here in an other 3 months when the next messiah fails to deliver on their promises.
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