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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4242263 times)
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February 15, 2018, 09:24:45 PM
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This thread is insanely long. Is monero superior compared to dash and zcash?
If you're looking for anonymity, then yes,
Edit: Read the post above mine

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February 15, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
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Long time since I've posted here.  Have been busy running my mining rigs and other crypto projects.  Can someone give me a State of the Union run down on Monero and what has been going on and what is coming up for the year?

Links or replies will work for me.  Hope everyone is well here.  This has always been my go to place for Monero news and problem solving. 

Multisig, sub-addresses, default fee reduction (what else?) in next month's fork.  Bulletproofs next fork after (massive reduction in tx size and fees)

monero hardware wallet soon, ledger nano s soon.

Our very own premine scam fork, moneroV soon.

network hash rate + GH/s

tons of media on web browser miners and 'crypto jacking' bot nets

That's a quick rundown off the top of my head.
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February 15, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
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Long time since I've posted here.  Have been busy running my mining rigs and other crypto projects.  Can someone give me a State of the Union run down on Monero and what has been going on and what is coming up for the year?

Links or replies will work for me.  Hope everyone is well here.  This has always been my go to place for Monero news and problem solving. 

Multisig, sub-addresses, default fee reduction (what else?) in next month's fork.  Bulletproofs next fork after (massive reduction in tx size and fees)

monero hardware wallet soon, ledger nano s soon.

Our very own premine scam fork, moneroV soon.

network hash rate + GH/s

tons of media on web browser miners and 'crypto jacking' bot nets

That's a quick rundown off the top of my head.

Thank you. 

Monerohash.com   U.S. Mining Pool
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February 16, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
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Long time since I've posted here.  Have been busy running my mining rigs and other crypto projects.  Can someone give me a State of the Union run down on Monero and what has been going on and what is coming up for the year?

Links or replies will work for me.  Hope everyone is well here.  This has always been my go to place for Monero news and problem solving.  

Multisig, sub-addresses, default fee reduction (what else?) in next month's fork.  Bulletproofs next fork after (massive reduction in tx size and fees)

monero hardware wallet soon, ledger nano s soon.

Our very own premine scam fork, moneroV soon.

network hash rate + GH/s

tons of media on web browser miners and 'crypto jacking' bot nets

That's a quick rundown off the top of my head.

Thank you.  

globee payment processor / merchands some time ago
xmr.to
android wallet

probably more

ah yeah: FluffyGate ....

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February 16, 2018, 08:26:45 AM
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Long time since I've posted here.  Have been busy running my mining rigs and other crypto projects.  Can someone give me a State of the Union run down on Monero and what has been going on and what is coming up for the year?

Links or replies will work for me.  Hope everyone is well here.  This has always been my go to place for Monero news and problem solving.  

Multisig, sub-addresses, default fee reduction (what else?) in next month's fork.  Bulletproofs next fork after (massive reduction in tx size and fees)

monero hardware wallet soon, ledger nano s soon.

Our very own premine scam fork, moneroV soon.

network hash rate + GH/s

tons of media on web browser miners and 'crypto jacking' bot nets

That's a quick rundown off the top of my head.

Thank you.  

globee payment processor / merchands some time ago
xmr.to
android wallet

probably more

ah yeah: FluffyGate ....

Of course! The integration of XMR.to into the Monerujo Android wallet was epic!  Monero usability grows and grows!
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February 16, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
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I have been a monero holder for a while, and it seems really undervalued. Anyone having privacy concerns should find interest in it.
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February 16, 2018, 01:12:29 PM
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FluffyGate ....
Which one?   Roll Eyes
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February 16, 2018, 05:13:38 PM
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everything gold :')))
that's been a while since last time I notice XMR, price rise so quickly.
remember that time, when I chose XDN over XMR. and time pass out, XND still rise, but nowhere near XMR. . . make me fell sad so much
but now, ONION rise as very potential anonymous coin. . .
a little bit pointless comment but...any one see through ONION? please tell me your opinion.

EVERYONE can see through ONION.  It's blockchain is transparent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg28075509#msg28075509
sorry that's my bad English Grin
I mean if anyone take a look at ONION

by the way. if it's blockchain is transparent so why they call it anonymity.
and thanks for information ^^

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February 16, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
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Today I saw forecasts and Monero enters the 8 most promising coins for 2018. This is associated with the anonymity of transactions.

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February 16, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
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Hey Crypto People,

I've seen discussion about how using a unique ringsize (EG 41) is a problem for privacy.

Would it be possible to use CT/Pederson commits/range proof magical crypto stuff to hide the ringsize from everyone that doesn't need to know it?

I'm sure Confidential Ringsize is a silly idea, but would like to know exactly why. Tongue


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February 16, 2018, 06:33:48 PM
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by the way. if it's blockchain is transparent so why they call it anonymity.
Probably because they hold a lot of it and they think that if people think it is private it will be worth more.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 16, 2018, 06:38:36 PM
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everything gold :')))
that's been a while since last time I notice XMR, price rise so quickly.
remember that time, when I chose XDN over XMR. and time pass out, XND still rise, but nowhere near XMR. . . make me fell sad so much
but now, ONION rise as very potential anonymous coin. . .
a little bit pointless comment but...any one see through ONION? please tell me your opinion.

EVERYONE can see through ONION.  It's blockchain is transparent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg28075509#msg28075509
sorry that's my bad English Grin
I mean if anyone take a look at ONION

by the way. if it's blockchain is transparent so why they call it anonymity.
and thanks for information ^^

Fixing a hole in the ocean
Trying to make a dove-tail joint, yeah
Looking through a glass onion.
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February 16, 2018, 06:47:41 PM
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So I've been thinking about this MoneroV fork problem. I saw the suggestion in a reddit thread about a tool that would allow monero users to specify ring signature inputs thus allowing us to sign with the same ring signature inputs that we used on the MoneroV blockchain.

I was wondering if anyone has given thought to a two pronged approach? We could additionally utilize a blacklist of ring sig inputs used on the forked chain. Some trusted team member could produce and update this blacklist. It could be a basic text file that we drag and drop into our monero directory. I know it would harm privacy to shrink the pool of available ring sig participants but we would only be blacklisting the ones used to produce the initial transaction on the MoneroV chain. So it would be a tiny tiny fraction of the ring signatures out there. Additionally new ring signature candidates are being produced constantly every 2 minutes every day.

It's a partial solution and an imperfect solution to a difficult problem but maybe worth considering.

Do you have a link to that thread? I don't know enough about this to have an opinion.

Here you go. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7x297t/careful_with_monero_forks_with_airdrops/du537ij/ It's a pretty simple to understand issue.
I'm trying to parse the seriousness of this... attack, for lack of a better word.
If revealing the real input was the only problem, it wouldn't bother me so much, because it's only one transaction.  Monero would live on without permanent ill effects.
But some of the reddit comments give the impression that there are knock-on effects that compromise other transactions.
My main concern is how it will affect the pool of decoy inputs.  Does the fact each transaction that's executed on both chains reveals four decoys mean that those decoys are rendered useless thereafter?  Or can the same decoys be used in future transactions safely?
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February 16, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
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Does the fact each transaction that's executed on both chains reveals four decoys mean that those decoys are rendered useless thereafter?  Or can the same decoys be used in future transactions safely?

No you are misunderstanding. Each decoy input is SOMEONES real input. So it would only reveal that the other inputs were decoys for you not necessarily decoys for anyone else who uses them. It would reveal your real input and your decoys. So then if someone else used your real input as a decoy in the future they would have their mixin set reduced by one. So if they did a mixin 6 and it selected one of the 6 as your real input that was revealed by you spending on both chains, they would get the effect of having used mixin 5 instead.

I hope that makes sense.

As for the seriousness. It is serious. Serious in the sense that something will have to be done about it. But not serious in the sense that nothing can be done about it.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 16, 2018, 08:02:57 PM
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everything gold :')))
that's been a while since last time I notice XMR, price rise so quickly.
remember that time, when I chose XDN over XMR. and time pass out, XND still rise, but nowhere near XMR. . . make me fell sad so much
but now, ONION rise as very potential anonymous coin. . .
a little bit pointless comment but...any one see through ONION? please tell me your opinion.

EVERYONE can see through ONION.  It's blockchain is transparent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg28075509#msg28075509
sorry that's my bad English Grin
I mean if anyone take a look at ONION

by the way. if it's blockchain is transparent so why they call it anonymity.
and thanks for information ^^


Because they are unconscionable liars.  Scammers, if you will.
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February 17, 2018, 01:02:56 AM
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Some interesting discussion on the fork attack:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7xz0mz/monero_deanonymization_or_how_i_learned_to_stop/

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February 17, 2018, 04:16:11 AM
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Ah somebody throw me some merits pls? Ive been inches away from hero when the 'merit system' came in and now like fkn miles away. lol Not that it really matters but it does

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February 17, 2018, 04:25:20 AM
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Ah somebody throw me some merits pls? Ive been inches away from hero when the 'merit system' came in and now like fkn miles away. lol Not that it really matters but it does

cheers
Say something meritorious.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 17, 2018, 04:34:43 AM
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Ah somebody throw me some merits pls? Ive been inches away from hero when the 'merit system' came in and now like fkn miles away. lol Not that it really matters but it does

cheers
Say something meritorious.
Ah now you want me to work for it? What is this generation coming to? Lol : fair enough.

edit: maybe this qualifies not because Im still fishing but because I still believe this maybe worth pondering on case of this and future forks which insist on not starting their own blockchain:

repost from reddit:

I proposed considering the implications of moving all our monero at a certain block after the fork and then donating the now monero empty but monerov 'airdropped' private keys to the development & research fund for purpose of obfuscation and dump of monerov. Not many takers to discuss at btctalk but reading a bit here and there makes me think that we could cause a lot of noise pointing to nowhere on their chain whilst having a nice dump of monerov at hand


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and yes i  did post this in here somewhere but the silence was deafening. Maybe it is a silly idea but my game is not game theory and cryptography and so on so I am thinking about the problem from another angle

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February 17, 2018, 04:54:30 AM
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I never shorted XMR but I did sell back in 2016 a huge chunk and bought Ethereum. Made a little less than $50MM, thank you ETH!

You guys really need to stop a handful of retarded devs (fat spaghetti) to force major changes without community consensus.
Monero has little time left anyway, Ethereum is about to launch ringCT and zK-Snarks, use the time you have left wisely.

Along with being a wrinkly toolbag, you are also a really amazing contrarian indicator.  I mean it's really something.
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