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March 09, 2018, 10:36:32 PM
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Did you guys read the Bittrex statement regarding upcoming fork? Was that the reason why fork was postponed?

Monero's fork has nothing to do with bittrex, and it was not postponed.  It was delayed slightly to wait for Ledger to catch up, since a date had not yet been set.
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March 09, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
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Did you guys read the Bittrex statement regarding upcoming fork? Was that the reason why fork was postponed?

Monero's fork has nothing to do with bittrex, and it was not postponed.  It was delayed slightly to wait for Ledger to catch up, since a date had not yet been set.
Bittrex makes statement that they won't support XMR/XMV fork because team has not contacted them earlier and now there is no time to go through review process until 14th of March and then Boom! fork gets delayed. Is that a coincidence?
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March 09, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
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Boom! fork gets delayed. Is that a coincidence?
You succumbed to the common cognitive error that two events occurring at the same time must therefore be causally related.
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March 09, 2018, 11:22:37 PM
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Boom! fork gets delayed. Is that a coincidence?
You succumbed to the common cognitive error that two events occurring at the same time must therefore be causally related.
Why get defensive? I thought of it as a positive thing. I don't think its bad for XMV or Monero holders to have a chance to get listed on Bittrex. So delaying fork for that reason would have been completely legitimate
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March 09, 2018, 11:42:31 PM
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Did you guys read the Bittrex statement regarding upcoming fork? Was that the reason why fork was postponed?

Monero's fork has nothing to do with bittrex, and it was not postponed.  It was delayed slightly to wait for Ledger to catch up, since a date had not yet been set.
Bittrex makes statement that they won't support XMR/XMV fork because team has not contacted them earlier and now there is no time to go through review process until 14th of March and then Boom! fork gets delayed. Is that a coincidence?

XMV is not Monero.  Wrong thread. 
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March 10, 2018, 02:17:26 AM
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Well if the fork has been delayed then this makes it a good time to stock up on some more Monero, which exchanges will be issuing the forked coin.

The recent surprise growth in XMR price had got the support from a looming hard fork – which is expected to take place in mid of this month.  MoneroV would be the new form of Monero token; investors who hold Monero will obtain 10 coins of MoneroV against each Monero coin.
https://cryptocurrencynews.com/daily-news/altcoins/monero-price-lead/
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March 10, 2018, 08:45:34 AM
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If all the xmv gets created in 5 huge transactions 1 on each exchange would that make a difference to the breach potential? instead of thousands of sets of keys shared.



I think they have realise most users don't run a home wallet so there will be no customers like that.


I cant see it getting on exchanges, but I do worry they may be using the Monero name + lies to get in the door.


I mean read any of the links people post to their material





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March 10, 2018, 08:59:07 AM
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If all the xmv gets created in 5 huge transactions 1 on each exchange would that make a difference to the breach potential? instead of thousands of sets of keys shared.



I think they have realise most users don't run a home wallet so there will be no customers like that.


I cant see it getting on exchanges, but I do worry they may be using the Monero name + lies to get in the door.


I mean read any of the links people post to their material






I can' believe any exchanges will list this thing? Why? We have decimals....so we dont need 25ish million coins to express a value?
Its a joke really. And makes me worried how stupid and greedy we are as a species. Maybe we deserve all we get.
We should for monerovi of v immediately. 25 trillion coins. So everyone can be a millionaire. 15% to the dev (me)

Monero - Wir sind die Leute vor denen uns unsere Eltern gewarnt haben!
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March 11, 2018, 09:45:09 AM
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CoinGenome listed XMR https://coingenome.com/coin/xmr

3M and 6M chart looks solid.
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Well if the fork has been delayed then this makes it a good time to stock up on some more Monero, which exchanges will be issuing the forked coin.

The recent surprise growth in XMR price had got the support from a looming hard fork – which is expected to take place in mid of this month.  MoneroV would be the new form of Monero token; investors who hold Monero will obtain 10 coins of MoneroV against each Monero coin.
https://cryptocurrencynews.com/daily-news/altcoins/monero-price-lead/

Do I need to expose my private keys to get MoneroV?

I doubt it's fine to share your private key to get a fork coin.
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March 11, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
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You deduced well.

And who would ask you to do that?


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March 11, 2018, 12:42:08 PM
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You deduced well.

And who would ask you to do that?


I know!  I know!


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March 11, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
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ASIC is coming ,XVG and DGB are killed by AISC,obviously,XMR will dump to floor.

Never buy any ICO altcoin.
Never buy any ASIC altcoin.
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March 11, 2018, 03:00:56 PM
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ASIC is coming ,XVG and DGB are killed by AISC,obviously,XMR will dump to floor.

Monero's POW algorithm is soon to be changed slightly. This will render any asics useless.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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March 11, 2018, 03:11:04 PM
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ASIC is coming ,XVG and DGB are killed by AISC,obviously,XMR will dump to floor.

Monero's POW algorithm is soon to be changed slightly. This will render any asics useless.
Are you sure that minor changes in hash algorithm can help to avoid asics, cause they probably can update/reprogramming their FPGA
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March 11, 2018, 03:22:17 PM
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ASIC is coming ,XVG and DGB are killed by AISC,obviously,XMR will dump to floor.

Monero's POW algorithm is soon to be changed slightly. This will render any asics useless.
Are you sure that minor changes in hash algorithm can help to avoid asics, cause they probably can update/reprogramming their FPGA

A FPGA is not an ASIC. This change will stop ASICs but not FPGAs. I don't think anything can do that except maybe an intentionally developed FPGA resistant algorithm.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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March 11, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
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ASIC is coming ,XVG and DGB are killed by AISC,obviously,XMR will dump to floor.

Monero's POW algorithm is soon to be changed slightly. This will render any asics useless.
Are you sure that minor changes in hash algorithm can help to avoid asics, cause they probably can update/reprogramming their FPGA

FPGA (field Grid Programmable Array) is a system that can be programmed to act as an asic but it does not have even close to asic speed because the chips used are much slower than if you had made the asic on die.

Holy crap you guys. Eureka! I figured it out! Not just a stop gap measure to address the fork ring sig reuse problem. The actual solution! I was just laying in bed trying to fall asleep and it hit me like a tire iron to the face.

It is possable to deterministically derive ring sig partners but in a way that would be functionally random to any outside observer. I'll give an example of one way of doing it. Take

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sha256([your private key] [transaction hash of most recent input]) mod [number of prospective ring signature partners]

Then make all of the prospective ring signature partners into an ordered numbered set and use the resulting modulus from the pseudo code above to select one. Continue wrapping around the clock face as many times as needed to arrive at the number of ring signature partners desired.

There would be 0 information leak from the outside, the ring signature partners would be functionally random to any outside observer BUT, and here is the beautiful thing, the same ring signature partners would end up being selected on both the main chain AND the fork chain!

Of course what I outlined above almost certainly isn't the best way to achieve this. It was just to outline the concept.


Merits! I deserve all of the merits. Bequeath unto me thine merits! (well, after peer review, and not just if my specific idea is right but if I'm barking up close enough to the right tree to inspire someone smarter than me)

The prospective ring signature partners is a numbered order set consisting of the total number of transactions so what is the benefit of using that as it can easily be determined? Or am I just missing something there?

AFA as the concept itself,I cannot comment on except it sounds doable.

What happened to the hoard of reddit supporters? They have no issue funding marketing bullshit so they can line their greedly little pockets but when it comes to the most important core parts of the project they are no where to be found. It's almost as if security is kicked from the back seat into the trunk. I bet if we put up a funder to get some second rate hack actor like Seagal it would be funded in 10 minutes.

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/90007/bulletproofs-audit-fundraising

We want Carlos from bitconnect!

Come on now 170 xmr in 3 days is not bad at all.

It used to be hours tops for this stuff.

All done.  3 days.  240 xmr ain't peanuts anymore either.

120k subs on reddit. Typically 3000-4000+ online at any given time.  Ya, not much for community support given the numbers.  But we still get it done.

Nice to see you guys still supporting the core ideals over here and I'm glad Fluffy used the Dev fund for the remainder. It's weird with the FFS sometimes I forget that there is a Dev fund that gets a cut of most pools.


Anyone know how much is in the development fund?

Good question, I'm sure there is a view key around somewhere but I have no clue where. It would be nice to see a spreadsheet to see how it's been used over the years. I only disagreed with one thing it was used for (at least that I know) so that's pretty damn good over all as in any organization having that kind of agreement from the community is pretty unheard of.


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Holy crap you guys. Eureka! I figured it out! Not just a stop gap measure to address the fork ring sig reuse problem. The actual solution! I was just laying in bed trying to fall asleep and it hit me like a tire iron to the face.

It is possable to deterministically derive ring sig partners but in a way that would be functionally random to any outside observer. I'll give an example of one way of doing it. Take

Code:
sha256([your private key] [transaction hash of most recent input]) mod [number of prospective ring signature partners]

Then make all of the prospective ring signature partners into an ordered numbered set and use the resulting modulus from the pseudo code above to select one. Continue wrapping around the clock face as many times as needed to arrive at the number of ring signature partners desired.

There would be 0 information leak from the outside, the ring signature partners would be functionally random to any outside observer BUT, and here is the beautiful thing, the same ring signature partners would end up being selected on both the main chain AND the fork chain!

Of course what I outlined above almost certainly isn't the best way to achieve this. It was just to outline the concept.


Merits! I deserve all of the merits. Bequeath unto me thine merits! (well, after peer review, and not just if my specific idea is right but if I'm barking up close enough to the right tree to inspire someone smarter than me)

The prospective ring signature partners is a numbered order set consisting of the total number of transactions so what is the benefit of using that as it can easily be determined? Or am I just missing something there?

AFA as the concept itself,I cannot comment on except it sounds doable.

No you aren't missing anything. I was just trying to be as clear as possible. Said differently, one would use the ouput from that algorithm, call it N, to select the Nth valid prospective ring signature partner.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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Holy crap you guys. Eureka! I figured it out! Not just a stop gap measure to address the fork ring sig reuse problem. The actual solution! I was just laying in bed trying to fall asleep and it hit me like a tire iron to the face.

It is possable to deterministically derive ring sig partners but in a way that would be functionally random to any outside observer. I'll give an example of one way of doing it. Take

Code:
sha256([your private key] [transaction hash of most recent input]) mod [number of prospective ring signature partners]

Then make all of the prospective ring signature partners into an ordered numbered set and use the resulting modulus from the pseudo code above to select one. Continue wrapping around the clock face as many times as needed to arrive at the number of ring signature partners desired.

There would be 0 information leak from the outside, the ring signature partners would be functionally random to any outside observer BUT, and here is the beautiful thing, the same ring signature partners would end up being selected on both the main chain AND the fork chain!

Of course what I outlined above almost certainly isn't the best way to achieve this. It was just to outline the concept.


Merits! I deserve all of the merits. Bequeath unto me thine merits! (well, after peer review, and not just if my specific idea is right but if I'm barking up close enough to the right tree to inspire someone smarter than me)

The prospective ring signature partners is a numbered order set consisting of the total number of transactions so what is the benefit of using that as it can easily be determined? Or am I just missing something there?

AFA as the concept itself,I cannot comment on except it sounds doable.

No you aren't missing anything. I was just trying to be as clear as possible. Said differently, one would use the ouput from that algorithm, call it N, to select the Nth valid prospective ring signature partner.

Got ya. Smiley

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March 11, 2018, 09:39:01 PM
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Waited for Monero to come out of the dip. +10% today! Check out the fluctuations in the charts:https://www.coinranker.net/cryptocurrency/monero
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