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March 30, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?

People who live in and enjoy the affluence of the western world often forget that the majority of this world are poverty-stricken. Perhaps people in such a detached world only have an old 32-bit machine and that's all they'll ever going to have in the near future. Does that mean they have to be excluded from our crypto endeavor? But I thought we're over or beyond that kind of mentality.

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March 31, 2018, 01:40:38 AM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?

People who live in and enjoy the affluence of the western world often forget that the majority of this world are poverty-stricken. Perhaps people in such a detached world only have an old 32-bit machine and that's all they'll ever going to have in the near future. Does that mean they have to be excluded from our crypto endeavor? But I thought we're over or beyond that kind of mentality.








This is an issue where even though the users hardware is 64-bit the Windows installed is 32-bit. This has nothing to do with poverty or elitism and everything to do with the user being unable to figure out a 64-bit Linux install.
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March 31, 2018, 02:23:51 AM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?

People who live in and enjoy the affluence of the western world often forget that the majority of this world are poverty-stricken. Perhaps people in such a detached world only have an old 32-bit machine and that's all they'll ever going to have in the near future. Does that mean they have to be excluded from our crypto endeavor? But I thought we're over or beyond that kind of mentality.








This is an issue where even though the users hardware is 64-bit the Windows installed is 32-bit. This has nothing to do with poverty or elitism and everything to do with the user being unable to figure out a 64-bit Linux install.

I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.

Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.

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March 31, 2018, 04:42:56 AM
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

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March 31, 2018, 05:42:55 AM
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

It seems that global cooling is happening.  The world is filling up with snowflakes.  Perhaps I am one, because I am [moderately] offended that you are offended.  But I promise not to cry about it.

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March 31, 2018, 07:25:55 AM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?
I do. I like small words.

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March 31, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?

People who live in and enjoy the affluence of the western world often forget that the majority of this world are poverty-stricken. Perhaps people in such a detached world only have an old 32-bit machine and that's all they'll ever going to have in the near future. Does that mean they have to be excluded from our crypto endeavor? But I thought we're over or beyond that kind of mentality.



What about people without the internet or electricity? are we excluding them? elitist pigs


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March 31, 2018, 03:53:59 PM
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Why does Monero not have a 32-bit visual client for Windows? Developers apparently forgot that in the yard of the 21st century and fuck with the command line no one will.

Who has a 32 bit machine in 2018?
I do. I like small words.

Me2, and who needs that out of order shit anyway. Smiley


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Happy with a nibble  Smiley

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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

Well, not offensive to me personally but generally...like you know...to the supposedly civilized world that we live in especially to those who are involved in a project that prides itself as "egalitarian...blah..blah...blah". I guess such ethos are just window-dressing to mask extremely selfish motives.

There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people. It's interesting that the majority of the posters who think this is OK are "Legendary" members. I expected them to be more of a good example on here. I guess I expected too much from them. The "Legendary" status surely got into their heads and feel entitled to have a carte blanche in mocking whoever they want on here with impunity.

It's all good. If anything, it just gave me a pretty good idea who they really are, their background and where they're coming from.







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March 31, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

Well, not offensive to me personally but generally...like you know...to the supposedly civilized world that we live in especially to those who are involved in a project that prides itself as "egalitarian...blah..blah...blah". I guess such ethos are just window-dressing to mask extremely selfish motives.

There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people. It's interesting that the majority of the posters who think this is OK are "Legendary" members. I expected them to be more of a good example on here. I guess I expected too much from them. The "Legendary" status surely got into there heads and feel entitled to have a carte blanche in mocking whoever they want on here with impunity.

It's all good. If anything, it just gave me a pretty good idea who they really are, their background and where they're coming from.









It's more of a non-conformist grow-a-skin type thing.  Anything 'politically correct' makes me itch to do the opposite.  I suppose I grew up in a totally different world, and still live there.  

Damn, looks like someone stole my car while I'm away from home!  Needs a wash...
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

Well, not offensive to me personally but generally...like you know...to the supposedly civilized world that we live in especially to those who are involved in a project that prides itself as "egalitarian...blah..blah...blah". I guess such ethos are just window-dressing to mask extremely selfish motives.

There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people. It's interesting that the majority of the posters who think this is OK are "Legendary" members. I expected them to be more of a good example on here. I guess I expected too much from them. The "Legendary" status surely got into their heads and feel entitled to have a carte blanche in mocking whoever they want on here with impunity.

It's all good. If anything, it just gave me a pretty good idea who they really are, their background and where they're coming from.









It's more of a non-conformist grow-a-skin type thing.  Anything 'politically correct' makes me itch to do the opposite.  I suppose I grew up in a totally different world, and still live there.  

Damn, looks like someone stole my car while I'm away from home!  Needs a wash...

Ya! I get it...be tough, that is. Been there...done that; and I don't mean that just mentally and psychologically. And I'm the most un-PC dude of them all, so you can't plant that on me. However, there are certain lines that I don't cross. Do you think you'd still find this subject cool and funny if, let's say, you have a sibling or someone close to you who you care about was born with the disorder?

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March 31, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

Well, not offensive to me personally but generally...like you know...to the supposedly civilized world that we live in especially to those who are involved in a project that prides itself as "egalitarian...blah..blah...blah". I guess such ethos are just window-dressing to mask extremely selfish motives.

There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people. It's interesting that the majority of the posters who think this is OK are "Legendary" members. I expected them to be more of a good example on here. I guess I expected too much from them. The "Legendary" status surely got into there heads and feel entitled to have a carte blanche in mocking whoever they want on here with impunity.

It's all good. If anything, it just gave me a pretty good idea who they really are, their background and where they're coming from.









It's more of a non-conformist grow-a-skin type thing.  Anything 'politically correct' makes me itch to do the opposite.  I suppose I grew up in a totally different world, and still live there.  

Damn, looks like someone stole my car while I'm away from home!  Needs a wash...

Ya! I get it...be tough, that is. Been there...done that; and I don't mean that just mentally and psychologically. And I'm the most un-PC dude of them all, so you can't plant that on me. However, there are certain lines that I don't cross. Do you think you'd still find this subject cool and funny if, let's say, you have a sibling or someone close to you who you care about was born with the disorder?



Probably;  But rather presumptuous to decide that with zero experience.  As far as presumptuous goes, projecting your line-to-cross onto others, and then judging...  I suppose we all do that to some extent or other. Hence the skin.
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March 31, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
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What is happening with Monerujo?

https://monerujo.io/

I cannot install the wallet any more. Censored by the NSA already?

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After review, monerujo: Monero Wallet, com.m2049r.xmrwallet, has been removed from Google Play because it violates the payments policy. This app won’t be available to users until you submit a compliant update.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/87zm5g/is_the_monejo_wallet_for_android_offline/dwgvgtm/

Well, use F-Droid and fcuk goole play  Grin

Thank you very much for this hint. I need it, because I compete against Google. But I wonder about all the rights of access I need to agree with. Why do F-Droid need them?
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I guess people who are unfortunate and poor enough to not own 64-bit machines are also incapable of installing 64-bit OS. Is that pretty much a reflection of the image you included in your post which is of a TV series character (or someone resembling him) who has some form of intellectual disability? Yet, you claim that it has nothing to do with elitism; perhaps it's worse...prejudice maybe. Does everybody like Linux? I, for one, am not too keen on Linux's intuitiveness or user-friendliness (or lack thereof) compared to mainstream OSes. Sure, I tinker with it because I have to...to a certain extent. Surely, you can't expect everybody who only owns 32-bit machines to be as tech savvy as you are.
My point was that it is not unreasonable to ask those rare few people (people who want to run monero on 32 bit machines) to just use the CLI.


Edit: The image you posted is offensive, unnecessary and uncalled for.
Haha awesome! That picture was funny before someone got offended. Now it's HILARIOUS. Oman I love it when people get offended. So funny.

I wonder what "getting offended" feels like. I don't think it has ever happened to me before.

Well, not offensive to me personally but generally...like you know...to the supposedly civilized world that we live in especially to those who are involved in a project that prides itself as "egalitarian...blah..blah...blah". I guess such ethos are just window-dressing to mask extremely selfish motives.

There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people. It's interesting that the majority of the posters who think this is OK are "Legendary" members. I expected them to be more of a good example on here. I guess I expected too much from them. The "Legendary" status surely got into there heads and feel entitled to have a carte blanche in mocking whoever they want on here with impunity.

It's all good. If anything, it just gave me a pretty good idea who they really are, their background and where they're coming from.









It's more of a non-conformist grow-a-skin type thing.  Anything 'politically correct' makes me itch to do the opposite.  I suppose I grew up in a totally different world, and still live there.  

Damn, looks like someone stole my car while I'm away from home!  Needs a wash...

Ya! I get it...be tough, that is. Been there...done that; and I don't mean that just mentally and psychologically. And I'm the most un-PC dude of them all, so you can't plant that on me. However, there are certain lines that I don't cross. Do you think you'd still find this subject cool and funny if, let's say, you have a sibling or someone close to you who you care about was born with the disorder?



Probably;  But rather presumptuous to decide that with zero experience.  As far as presumptuous goes, projecting your line-to-cross onto others, and then judging...  I suppose we all do that to some extent or other. Hence the skin.

Well, the Legendary member who started it was presumptuous. He could have posted his original comment without the insinuative image and the post would have some sort of merit however misguided and unrealistic it was but at least, it was an opinion expressed in earnest and that would have possibly been the end of that. Instead, the inclusion of the unnecessary, unrelated and uncalled for image turned it into a post with malice. Hence I called it out. I don't need to be Legendary to call out a malicious post by a Legendary member, do I?

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April 01, 2018, 01:14:47 AM
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There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people.

Well there definitely is something funny about seeing people get offended by people "deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder". Everything can be funny anything can be the butt of a joke. If I had cancer I would still laugh at cancer jokes. You shouldn't be that surprised that someone like me would be involved in a project like this. Normies are the last people who would have their freedom of speech threatened. Edgy mc edgelord me will be the first of the chopping block. And what is a project like this even about if not freedom of speech?

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There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people.

Well there definitely is something funny about seeing people get offended by people "deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder". Everything can be funny anything can be the butt of a joke. If I had cancer I would still laugh at cancer jokes. You shouldn't be that surprised that someone like me would be involved in a project like this. Normies are the last people who would have their freedom of speech threatened. Edgy mc edgelord me will be the first of the chopping block. And what is a project like this even about if not freedom of speech?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you won't have consequences of whatever you want to express or say.

You obviously are in the same school as the other Legend who made a big deal about having a "skin". Like I said, mine is as thick as they come. But I just finally realized that y'all folks have a totally different definition of it. Having skin to y'all means letting things slide and not say anything to the contrary no matter how wrong they are because you wanna convince yourselves with the illusion of having thick skins. That's more like meekness in my book. It's like preventing yourselves from speaking up and standing up to bullies and what not...all because you wanna have that illusion of having the "skin". Whereas to me, it means having the gonads to stand up and confront anything that's not right and having the "skin" for whatever comes right back as a consequence. There lies the difference.

I thought we are involved in this endeavor/adventure to stand up to the bullies and not just take it and let it slide. That was the main idea, wasn't it?

Edit: If you still insist that what you posted was cool and funny, then I surmise that you are sicker in the head than those born with ID.

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There is nothing cool or funny about deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder to mock yet another unfortunate group of people.

Well there definitely is something funny about seeing people get offended by people "deridingly using people born with intellectual developmental disorder". Everything can be funny anything can be the butt of a joke. If I had cancer I would still laugh at cancer jokes. You shouldn't be that surprised that someone like me would be involved in a project like this. Normies are the last people who would have their freedom of speech threatened. Edgy mc edgelord me will be the first of the chopping block. And what is a project like this even about if not freedom of speech?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you won't have consequences of whatever you want to express or say.

You obviously are in the same school as the other Legend who made a big deal about having a "skin". Like I said, mine is as thick as they come. But I just finally realized that y'all folks have a totally different definition of it. Having skin to y'all means letting things slide and not say anything to the contrary no matter how wrong they are because you wanna convince yourselves with the illusion of having thick skins. That's more like meekness in my book. It's like preventing yourselves from speaking up and standing up to bullies and what not...all because you wanna have that illusion of having the "skin". Whereas to me, it means having the gonads to stand up and confront anything that's not right and having the "skin" for whatever comes right back as a consequence. There lies the difference.

I thought we are involved in this endeavor/adventure to stand up to the bullies and not just take it and let it slide. That was the main idea, wasn't it?



I have no problem with laughter, at anything. being offended by laughter is... amusing.  If one would like to offer violence, that is a different matter entirely.  I don't think anybody was suggesting stoning or drowning of your sister  though.  I understand that is acceptable in some cultures, and while I don't agree, I also don't stick my oar in if you don't try to bring it to my house.  religious wars are a bitch.  More than enough on that subject for this venue.

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April 01, 2018, 03:29:55 AM
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you won't have consequences of whatever you want to express or say.
You are so right. In a muslim country where you will be killed for blaspheming you still have freedom of speech just not freedom from the consequence of being murdered for exercising your freedom of speech. Freedom of speech and freedom from consequences for exercising freedom of speech are so totally different. How did I not see it before. /sarc

If you are trying to argue something like social ostracism is a legitimate consequence than I would agree with that. Realistically, it depends what sorts of consequences you are talking about.


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Wait werent you just making fun of us for being rednecks a minute ago? I have nothing against saying y'all or rednecks. It's just a bit ironic. Cheesy


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Whereas to me, it means having the gonads to stand up and confront anything that's not right and having the "skin" for whatever comes right back as a consequence.
So what exactly is "not right" about making fun of retards? Please show me the victim.  No victim no crime. I wouldn't intentionally hurt one's feelings to his face just to be mean. That wouldn't be wrong on the grounds of some principle about not making fun of retards, it would be wrong on the grounds of being a dick. Wrong in a similar way to burping loudly in public.


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Bro... Wtf... That's not cool. You shouldn't talk about disabled people like that. If you think it's ok to say things like "sicker in the head than those born with ID", then I surmise that you are sicker in the head than those born with ID.



But hey this is getting pretty wildly off topic. I would just like to wrap it up by pointing out that the only way to fight for free speech is by saying things that offend people, things that are uncomfortable. You don't defend free speech by talking about the weather. You defend it in places were people would contest whether you should be able to say it. You are more or less arguing that we shouldn't have said what we said. Which is some evidence that it was a good thing that we said it, atleast in so far as furthering the fight for free speech is concerned. Maybe it had other negative effects, but I can live with that, almost any price is worth paying to defend free speech.

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April 01, 2018, 04:28:58 AM
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LOL, and I thought I'd come here and find happy people that we are looking good today. Cheesy

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