[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[doc12]

Hi,

I just compiled the wallet on the Raspberry Pi an wanted to share the binary, because compilation on the pi takes quite long. Wallet runs fine and the Pi is a perfect staking machine with just 3,5W power consumption.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html

Wallet version : v1.3.4.0-g32a928e (latest from Github)

Thanks a lot, doc12! Which distro did you compile on? Which dependencies are needed to run this?

Dependencies are :

sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev

Like you postet in post #16235

And Distro is Raspbian.


If someone wants so build a staking device with a Raspberry Pi, here's a little step-by-step tutorial:

1) Install Raspbian system with NOOBS : http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/

2) Boot the system and login: Default login is:  USER: pi ; PASSWORD: raspberry

3) On first boot you will be promted to a configuration, where you can change the PI's name on the network and the password for the Pi user.

4) If you use remote desktop,you don't need to connect nothing to the Pi, exept LAN-Cable and power supply. If you don't want a remote desktop, type "startx" to the console and wait for the GUI to load. And proceed wird step 7.

5) Type "sudo apt-get install xrdp" and enter to install the remote desktop client an restart.

6) Now open the "Remote desktop connection" in Windows (It's a integrated system tool) and login with the pi's network alias, User:pi and your password.

7) Now you should see the GUI. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade". This should take some time

8 ) Now type  "sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev" and enter

9) Now you can compile the vericoin wallet from source or download the precompiled wallet I made here: http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html , if you want to compile from source continue with next step, else extract the binary file from the tar.gz and open it. Now the wallet should open and begin to download the blockchain

10) Type "sudo git clone https://github.com/vericoin/master" and enter

11) now "sudo cd master"

12) now "sudo qmake"

13) and "sudo make" , this step take very long (1-2 hours)

14) If you see no error the wallet should be compiled.

15) You can find the compiled binary under /home/pi/master/ . Launch the wallet and wait for the blockchain download. You can close the remote desktop connection, that doesn't affect the wallet operation.

16) Press Strg+H in the fileexplorer to display hidden files under /home/pi/. The directory ".vericoin" contains the blockchain and walletfiles. So you can backup your walletfile.

17) Enjoy your 3,5W staking device

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[Jeff Jefferson]

Hi,

I just compiled the wallet on the Raspberry Pi an wanted to share the binary, because compilation on the pi takes quite long. Wallet runs fine and the Pi is a perfect staking machine with just 3,5W power consumption.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html

Wallet version : v1.3.4.0-g32a928e (latest from Github)

Thanks a lot, doc12! Which distro did you compile on? Which dependencies are needed to run this?

Dependencies are :

sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev

Like you postet in post #16235

And Distro is Raspbian.


If someone wants so build a staking device with a Raspberry Pi, here's a little step-by-step tutorial:

1) Install Raspbian System with NOOBS : http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/

2) Boot the system and login: Default Login is:  USER: pi ; Password: raspberry

3) On first boot you will be promted to a configuration, where you can change the PI's name on the network and the password for the Pi user.

4) If you use remote desktop, so you don't need to connect nothing to the Pi, exept LAN-Cable and power supply. If you don't want a remote desktop, type "startx" to the console and wait for the GUI to load. And proceed wird step 7

5) Type "sudo apt-get install xrdp" and enter to install the remote desktop client an restart.

6) Now open the "Remote desktop connection" in Windows (It's a integrated system tool) and login with User:pi and your password.

7) Now you should see the GUI. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade". This should take some time

Now type  "sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev"

9) Now you can compile the vericoin wallet from source or download the precompiled wallet I made here: http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html , if you want to compile from source continue with next step, else extract the binary file from the tar.gz and open it. Now the wallet should open and begin to download the blockchain

10) Type "sudo git clone https://github.com/vericoin/master" and enter

11) now "sudo cd master"

12) now "sudo qmake"

13) and "sudo make" , this step take very long (1-2 hours)

14) If you see no error the wallet should be compiled.

15) You can find the compiled binary under /home/pi/master/ . Launch the wallet and wait for the blockchain download. You can close the remote desktop connection, that doesn't affect the wallet operation.

16) Press Strg+H in the fileexplorer to display hidden files. The directory ".vericoin" contains the blockchain and walletfiles. So you can backup your walletfile.

17) Enjoy your 3,5W staking device

thx a lot! maybe you could put it in reddit.com/r/vericoin that way it is easier to find. or maybe the devs could put the binary and the installation description on the official page.

[pnosker]

Hi,

I just compiled the wallet on the Raspberry Pi an wanted to share the binary, because compilation on the pi takes quite long. Wallet runs fine and the Pi is a perfect staking machine with just 3,5W power consumption.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html

Wallet version : v1.3.4.0-g32a928e (latest from Github)

Thanks a lot, doc12! Which distro did you compile on? Which dependencies are needed to run this?

Dependencies are :

sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev

Like you postet in post #16235

And Distro is Raspbian.


If someone wants so build a staking device with a Raspberry Pi, here's a little step-by-step tutorial:

1) Install Raspbian System with NOOBS : http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/

2) Boot the system and login: Default Login is:  USER: pi ; Password: raspberry

3) On first boot you will be promted to a configuration, where you can change the PI's name on the network and the password for the Pi user.

4) If you use remote desktop, so you don't need to connect nothing to the Pi, exept LAN-Cable and power supply. If you don't want a remote desktop, type "startx" to the console and wait for the GUI to load. And proceed wird step 7

5) Type "sudo apt-get install xrdp" and enter to install the remote desktop client an restart.

6) Now open the "Remote desktop connection" in Windows (It's a integrated system tool) and login with User:pi and your password.

7) Now you should see the GUI. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade". This should take some time

Now type  "sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-system-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libssl-dev"

9) Now you can compile the vericoin wallet from source or download the precompiled wallet I made here: http://www.file-upload.net/download-9503098/vericoin_raspi.tar.gz.html , if you want to compile from source continue with next step, else extract the binary file from the tar.gz and open it. Now the wallet should open and begin to download the blockchain

10) Type "sudo git clone https://github.com/vericoin/master" and enter

11) now "sudo cd master"

12) now "sudo qmake"

13) and "sudo make" , this step take very long (1-2 hours)

14) If you see no error the wallet should be compiled.

15) You can find the compiled binary under /home/pi/master/ . Launch the wallet and wait for the blockchain download. You can close the remote desktop connection, that doesn't affect the wallet operation.

16) Press Strg+H in the fileexplorer to display hidden files. The directory ".vericoin" contains the blockchain and walletfiles. So you can backup your walletfile.

17) Enjoy your 3,5W staking device

thx a lot! maybe you could put it in reddit.com/r/vericoin that way it is easier to find. or maybe the devs could put the binary and the installation description on the official page.

We're going to add instructions to the git. Thanks again!

[ScottAllyn]

I've added a simple 3-way calculator to the VeriCoin Quick Stats page:

http://vericoinnews.info/stats.php

[pnosker]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an optional, paired, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

[Jeff Jefferson]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

amazing news!!!! thanks for the update!

[Xosihc]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Awesome stuff! Thanks for the update!

[yoshiwatusi]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

i agree.. been looking at btsx too, and i thought this would make it easier than bitcoin.. (even with TITAN), but its not & still buggy - so there is still a big opportunity for vericoin - easier mass adoption

[barabbas]

@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

[libertynow]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Thanks for the updated.  I'm confused by that link though.  It's dated July 26 and it says it was last updated July 26.  Was that page edited without reflecting today's date?

[MAD945]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Thanks for the update Pat!

[barabbas]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Nice update. James coming into vericoin, a game changer. You guys recognizing it and enthusiastically supporting him, a very positive sign. NOW this project has a future worth investing in. Congrats to the community.

[pnosker]

@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

The reserve is going to still serve the initial purpose that James requested, however, we will be managing it according to the community demands instead of James. The escrow will still ensure that 10k satoshi will be sent for each VRC as per the initial terms once the VRC price breaks 50k satoshi. The rest of the stash is to be used for projects that the community will vote on, as per the initial fundraising criteria. We are still aiming for 10% of VRC to be in this fund and hope donations continue to come in.

The coins will not be staked, for now, as donations in are difficult to track once coins are re-aged. They will not be used for anything until the community decides on a fate for them.

[SolarBTC]

Thanks for the update

good luck

-SolarBTC

[effectsToCause]

@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

The reserve is going to still serve the initial purpose that James requested, however, we will be managing it according to the community demands instead of James. The escrow will still ensure that 10k satoshi will be sent for each VRC as per the initial terms once the VRC price breaks 50k satoshi. The rest of the stash is to be used for projects that the community will vote on, as per the initial fundraising criteria. We are still aiming for 10% of VRC to be in this fund and hope donations continue to come in.

The coins will not be staked, for now, as donations in are difficult to track once coins are re-aged. They will not be used for anything until the community decides on a fate for them.

Yes we are in full agreement about this.

[barabbas]

@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

The reserve is going to still serve the initial purpose that James requested, however, we will be managing it according to the community demands instead of James. The escrow will still ensure that 10k satoshi will be sent for each VRC as per the initial terms once the VRC price breaks 50k satoshi. The rest of the stash is to be used for projects that the community will vote on, as per the initial fundraising criteria. We are still aiming for 10% of VRC to be in this fund and hope donations continue to come in.

The coins will not be staked, for now, as donations in are difficult to track once coins are re-aged. They will not be used for anything until the community decides on a fate for them.

Yes we are in full agreement about this.

That being the case the being on the same page is achieved and everyone is quite clear now.

But if you allow me I believe it is a hasty and not very well thought out decision. For instance, you can, right now, sell those 500k+ vrc return 10k sat to each donor and retain the profit (40%) for future projects with no obligations or strings attached. There are many other options that will be much more beneficial to the community that just doing nothing with it. Staking in such amounts is significant and not benefitting at all from it is quite an unnecessary waste... among those many options i would suggest to create a stabilization fund (a la naut) thst would be instrumental in achieving what should be a target gosl for vrc: reduce volatility to dupport "mass" adoption. There are othrrs... like i said, many and all much more beneficial than just putting those funds undrr the mattress. Give it an additional thought or two if you can.

One other thing: getting to above 50k sat, the noskrr presents as a foregone conclusion, is a very tall order. It may not get thrre -let alone to 100k- and much lesd in the more or less agreen upon (clarification on this is also needed) term of thr next 6 months or first week of March 2015...

[effectsToCause]

With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an optional, paired, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Yes this is very exciting news!  New flat UI wallet is coming soon, the next wallet update after that will allow for entry into the SuperNET via a button which will bring you to the VeriCoin SuperNET portal that Pat mentioned, which development is under way for.  

[effectsToCause]

@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

The reserve is going to still serve the initial purpose that James requested, however, we will be managing it according to the community demands instead of James. The escrow will still ensure that 10k satoshi will be sent for each VRC as per the initial terms once the VRC price breaks 50k satoshi. The rest of the stash is to be used for projects that the community will vote on, as per the initial fundraising criteria. We are still aiming for 10% of VRC to be in this fund and hope donations continue to come in.

The coins will not be staked, for now, as donations in are difficult to track once coins are re-aged. They will not be used for anything until the community decides on a fate for them.

Yes we are in full agreement about this.

That being the case the being on the same page is achieved and everyone is quite clear now.

But if you allow me I believe it is a hasty and not very well thought out decision. For instance, you can, right now, sell those 500k+ vrc return 10k sat to each donor and retain the profit (40%) for future projects with no obligations or strings attached. There are many other options that will be much more beneficial to the community that just doing nothing with it. Staking in such amounts is significant and not benefitting at all from it is quite an unnecessary waste... among those many options i would suggest to create a stabilization fund (a la naut) thst would be instrumental in achieving what should be a target gosl for vrc: reduce volatility to dupport "mass" adoption. There are othrrs... like i said, many and all much more beneficial than just putting those funds undrr the mattress. Give it an additional thought or two if you can.

Sure will, good points.  The community will vote on how best to handle the extra funds.

[barabbas]

Quick chat with Pat...somethings where cleared up

[12:19] <MAD945> we are only in cluster #2
[12:19] <LibertyNow> I thought so, too
[12:19] <MAD945> will this change?
[12:19] <LibertyNow> also, that forum entry is dated July 26
[12:19] <MAD945> Pat can you clear this up for us please
[12:19] <@pnosker> MAD945: cluster 2 is just the computer it's on
[12:19] <MAD945> ahhh
[12:19] <LibertyNow> oh
<MAD945> so are we still a core coin
[12:20] <@pnosker> yes
[12:20] <MAD945> with bitcoin, litecoin, darkcoin and btcdrk?
[12:20] <MAD945> wheres boolberry?
[12:21] <@pnosker> some of them will just be on MGW
[12:21] <@pnosker> because MGW is just the decentralized system for trades
[12:22] <LibertyNow> MAD, do you know the answer to my question?  See the linke that Patrick posted here:
[12:22] <LibertyNow> https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/
[12:22] <MAD945> ahhh but do we want to run into another Bittrex adding scam coins
[12:22] <LibertyNow> why is it dated July 26?
[12:22] <MAD945> Error on the forum?
[12:22] <@pnosker> I just PMed you...
[12:22] <@pnosker> when you asked me that question
[12:22] <LibertyNow> oh, sorry
[12:23] <MAD945> doesn't make much sense...but i've seen it happen before
[12:23] <@pnosker> It's not an error. We have been discussing with James since before then
[12:23] <MAD945> thanks again for answering our queries Pat...I know it can be trying at times
[12:23] <@pnosker> They built a MGW test client
[12:23] <@pnosker> in July
[12:23] <@pnosker> before they/we announced
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[12:23] <@pnosker> some people figured out that he was Dev4 before we announced it
[12:23] <MAD945> Shit! Nice....
[12:24] <@pnosker> Part of the reason we've been so quiet
[12:24] <@pnosker> is because we agreed to not discuss
[12:24] <@pnosker> but have been working on this stuff
[12:24] <@pnosker> meanwhile barabbas/altcoinuk bitch and complain about us
[12:24] <@pnosker> but we can't discuss
[12:24] <@pnosker> until James posted
[12:24] <MAD945> must be frustrating Pat and for Doug
[12:25] <@pnosker> And David

My "bitching and complaining" has nothing to do and nothing in common with altcoinUK's, first; second,  I have NOT ONCE said a single thing or urge you in any way rrgarding dev#4 during the whole period of negotiations. On the contrary I have insisted on you both being totally silent about it until and when an agreement was reached.

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Barabbass from what i have read of your postings, You are by far the biggest bitch on this thread period.  If your not bitching your name calling. Kinda like them bully's in the playground, every one ultimately hates them, but for the sake of compassion that most humans possess, their tolerated.