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June 04, 2014, 02:37:26 AM
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one of coolest startup coins, im sure price will raise. this stuff deserves it.

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June 04, 2014, 04:48:28 AM
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Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Strange the trial period are 7 days?
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June 04, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
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Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Strange the trial period are 7 days?

No worries.  It was worth a shot.  I can write something to do something similar if I get some free time.  I'm actually quite concerned with the stability of the machines.  I don't think it would work with how unstable the machines become and I have no idea why.  Nothing in Windows Event Viewer and nothing in the F@H logs.  No errors or warnings.  I'm interacting with the F@H support forum now to see if they have any ideas.

I'll figure it out but I can see it is going to take quite a while.  I suspect my sustainable PPD is going to be about 2 million instead of the 3 million I was doing earlier.  Just no way to keep the machines running to sustain it.  So you better pass me while you can.  lol  Sooner or later I might get the machines running right.
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June 04, 2014, 05:20:50 AM
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Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Display driver recovery happend = one of the folding GPU's did stop = no CPU activity, waiting waiting and there the reset of the process happend.
This is the log file text for this event.

05:09:57:WU04:FS04:0x17:Completed 2550000 out of 5000000 steps (51%)
   REM - Display driver recovery event
   REM - 3min and reset of process.
05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Starting
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Admin/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah/FahCore_17.exe -dir 04 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 4756 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 3 -gpu-vendor ati
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Started FahCore on PID 2068
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Core PID:200
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:FahCore 0x17 started
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-06-04T05:16:21Z ***********************
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Project: 9408 (Run 355, Clone 0, Gen 32)
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Unit: 0x000000290a3b1e5c5342d6762c91b48a
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Machine: 4
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Digital signatures verified
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Version 0.0.52
05:16:22:WU04:FS04:0x17:  Found a checkpoint file

AND it running again.

If you want to check if there have been any reset events you only tick the Warnings and errors box and then you look at rows like this:
   - 05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)

//Aboy68
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June 04, 2014, 05:23:41 AM
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Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Display driver recovery happend = one of the folding GPU's did stop = no CPU activity, waiting waiting and there the reset of the process happend.
This is the log file text for this event.

05:09:57:WU04:FS04:0x17:Completed 2550000 out of 5000000 steps (51%)
   REM - Display driver recovery event
   REM - 3min and reset of process.
05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Starting
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Admin/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah/FahCore_17.exe -dir 04 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 4756 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 3 -gpu-vendor ati
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Started FahCore on PID 2068
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Core PID:200
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:FahCore 0x17 started
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-06-04T05:16:21Z ***********************
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Project: 9408 (Run 355, Clone 0, Gen 32)
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Unit: 0x000000290a3b1e5c5342d6762c91b48a
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Machine: 4
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Digital signatures verified
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Version 0.0.52
05:16:22:WU04:FS04:0x17:  Found a checkpoint file

AND it running again.

If you want to check if there have been any reset events you only tick the Warnings and errors box and then you look at rows like this:
   - 05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)

//Aboy68

Yeah when I do it mine looks like this....

*********************** Log Started 2014-06-04T04:17:08Z ***********************

There are literally no errors or warnings.
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June 04, 2014, 07:18:30 AM
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.

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June 04, 2014, 09:15:01 AM
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


Well,  start up a exchange for the secondary computation already.  Like reserve 60% of the network for protein folding then leave the rest 40% up for bid.  Then you use then money to do coins buyback.  like 10% at the start,  30% in the middle then 50% at the finish.  Use easy proof of concept such as prime number crunching for demos.     
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June 04, 2014, 09:42:00 AM
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.
The whole multipool idea is a direct assault to everything cryptocurrency stands for. Instead of working together to make a coin for everyone, instead a fiat controlled by government and banks, you are directly attacking other coins in order to gain a little wealth for your own. What makes you any better then any of those bankers creating a financial crisis and only covering for themselves?

Contacting health organisations and seeking sponsorships is a great idea though.

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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.
The whole multipool idea is a direct assault to everything cryptocurrency stands for. Instead of working together to make a coin for everyone, instead a fiat controlled by government and banks, you are directly attacking other coins in order to gain a little wealth for your own. What makes you any better then any of those bankers creating a financial crisis and only covering for themselves?

Contacting health organisations and seeking sponsorships is a great idea though.

Nothing makes me better than other coins. However, the idea behind curecoin makes curecoin not only better but the best coin so far, because it is the only one with real life application and helping people for something beneficial. And yes, I truly belive for this cause would be nice even if other coins die in order curecoin to survive.

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June 04, 2014, 10:43:11 AM
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How is the voting going at Mintpal?

All new interested ones in the coin must submit there comment and like/vote on Cryptsy
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/4000277225
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


Unfortunately health organizations have strict regulations, and any who deal with medicaid/medicare can only accept standard fiat currencies. In the next week or two we'll be rolling out advertisements on coinmarketcap's top banner space.

Fold Proteins, earn cryptos! CureCoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603757.0
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


Unfortunately health organizations have strict regulations, and any who deal with medicaid/medicare can only accept standard fiat currencies. In the next week or two we'll be rolling out advertisements on coinmarketcap's top banner space.

I've already sent out an email to this effect, but I'm not sure it will go anywhere.  Stanford should put its money where its mouth is and offer something(s) of value for CureCoin:  tuition, legal assistance/counsel, medical care, t-shirts, coffee.  You got brilliant minds over there, and a lot of money.  I'm sure they can come up with something.
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June 04, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


What?  Like they're increasing the total amount of coins paid out for folding each day?  I got a dramatic increase recently, but I thought it was because they finally fixed the points calculation so that I was getting the amount that matched what F@H reported (essentially getting a bigger piece of the pie).  My PPD increased from 400k to 800k over the last 2 days.
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June 05, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
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I'm all for Curecoin, but the implementation IS flawed...devs seem awfully silent and that is not good in the eyes of the public.

There's too much inflation and too little uses for the Curecoins right now, sha256 miners will flock to btc again and the coin won't be secure with PoS alone. Something must be done asap...  Undecided
+1. This coin is dying. Even people are leaving folding as number of coins earned per day is growing each day. Make multipool and make paid advertisment. You have money from the IPO. Contact health organisations, ask for sponsorship. Otherwise this good idea will die.


What?  Like they're increasing the total amount of coins paid out for folding each day?  I got a dramatic increase recently, but I thought it was because they finally fixed the points calculation so that I was getting the amount that matched what F@H reported (essentially getting a bigger piece of the pie).  My PPD increased from 400k to 800k over the last 2 days.

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June 05, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
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Im currently folding in 4 different cancer projects, 9406, 9408, 13000 and 13001.

Are there any page where we could find how different project are progressing?
Now when Im folding, Im kind of part of the project groups Smiley
Investing money and time - and that are significant for investments.

If you streatch this - what are my shares in a project, ea 9406?

//Aboy68
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Im currently folding in 4 different cancer projects, 9406, 9408, 13000 and 13001.

Are there any page where we could find how different project are progressing?
Now when Im folding, Im kind of part of the project groups Smiley
Investing money and time - and that are significant for investments.

If you streatch this - what are my shares in a project, ea 9406?

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http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject.overusingIPswillbebanned?p=9408

Switch various project numbers at the end of the url.
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June 05, 2014, 10:04:26 AM
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If you streatch this - what are my shares in a project, ea 9406?

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Not visible to us donors/folders. Sometimes asked for but never considered to spend resources on as of no scientific value. PG need to balance those end-user desires from their "core business"
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June 05, 2014, 10:21:24 AM
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Im currently folding in 4 different cancer projects, 9406, 9408, 13000 and 13001.

Are there any page where we could find how different project are progressing?
Now when Im folding, Im kind of part of the project groups Smiley
Investing money and time - and that are significant for investments.

If you streatch this - what are my shares in a project, ea 9406?

//Aboy68

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject.overusingIPswillbebanned?p=9408�

Switch various project numbers at the end of the url.
I know this link, that is an introduction not the progress information, do we have more detailed information of the progress, etc... to make it more personal and engaging.
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June 05, 2014, 10:22:53 AM
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If you streatch this - what are my shares in a project, ea 9406?

//Aboy68

Not visible to us donors/folders. Sometimes asked for but never considered to spend resources on as of no scientific value. PG need to balance those end-user desires from their "core business"

Thanks, I guess it's like that, no one have extra resources outside the main focus.
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June 05, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
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are more than 7k coins getting paid out per day now? if so why?

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