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Author Topic: [ANN]CureCoin - CURECOIN TEAM HAS TAKEN RANK 1 ON FOLDING@HOME!!!  (Read 668210 times)
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June 10, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
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An adjustment to the payout system has been made to compensate for having a much larger PPD team total then during test phases. Ill continue to fine tune it to even out the payouts. 3 hours payouts are also in the works.


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To clarify, I believe Josh changed the rampup/cooldown for PPLNS, correct?

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June 10, 2014, 08:32:25 PM
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So I'm folding since Tuesday: 10 cores CPU and 1 HD7950. I didn't get neither points nor Curecoins. Is this "Folding for Curecoins" thing a hoax?

Same here. The payouts are ridiculously low. According to the FAHControls I have to get roughly 4000 PPD. Since yesterday my PPD @ cryptobullionpools were 325 (!). Today it's 910. For a whole week of folding I got 0.116 CURE which equals 0.9 cents.  Huh

Hello all. My first post here.

@ Rainer4256,

There is something wrong in your settings (configuration) on FAHControl.

CPU (10 cores - ??); You should received over - 20 000 PPD.
and 1 HD7950;  This GPU does with Core_17 (0x17) about 60 000-70 000 PPD.

You get (today according to statistics) around 4000+ PPD. Ask for help on - https://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=61

I apologize for bad English

Greetings from Bulgaria
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June 10, 2014, 08:37:28 PM
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Seems to be that I just received correction of wrong/smaller payment happened on 9-th of June. Keep up the good work... Wink
EDIT:
My mistake, incom was from Minep.it, so no correction of low payment from 9-th of June...  Huh

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June 10, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
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So I'm folding since Tuesday: 10 cores CPU and 1 HD7950. I didn't get neither points nor Curecoins. Is this "Folding for Curecoins" thing a hoax?

Same here. The payouts are ridiculously low. According to the FAHControls I have to get roughly 4000 PPD. Since yesterday my PPD @ cryptobullionpools were 325 (!). Today it's 910. For a whole week of folding I got 0.116 CURE which equals 0.9 cents.  Huh

Hello all. My first post here.

@ Rainer4256,

There is something wrong in your settings (configuration) on FAHControl.

CPU (10 cores - ??); You should received over - 20 000 PPD.
and 1 HD7950;  This GPU does with Core_17 (0x17) about 60 000-70 000 PPD.

You get (today according to statistics) around 4000+ PPD. Ask for help on - https://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=61

I apologize for bad English

Greetings from Bulgaria
First of all: thank you for offering help.
To keep my computers operable I reduced the number of cores to 8:
System 1: 3 cores @ 2.8 GHz i5, 1 HD7950, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 3257
System 2: 3 cores @ 1.6 GHz AMD A8-4555M APU, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 373 (my main working device)
System 3: 2 cores @ 3.08 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OSX 10.9; est. PPD 713
All systems are running properly without showing any errors.
The F&H Configuration Guide says: "The Folding@home (FAH) client typically runs well using the default settings."
So therefore my setup can't be completely wrong.

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So I'm folding since Tuesday: 10 cores CPU and 1 HD7950. I didn't get neither points nor Curecoins. Is this "Folding for Curecoins" thing a hoax?

Same here. The payouts are ridiculously low. According to the FAHControls I have to get roughly 4000 PPD. Since yesterday my PPD @ cryptobullionpools were 325 (!). Today it's 910. For a whole week of folding I got 0.116 CURE which equals 0.9 cents.  Huh

Hello all. My first post here.

@ Rainer4256,

There is something wrong in your settings (configuration) on FAHControl.

CPU (10 cores - ??); You should received over - 20 000 PPD.
and 1 HD7950;  This GPU does with Core_17 (0x17) about 60 000-70 000 PPD.

You get (today according to statistics) around 4000+ PPD. Ask for help on - https://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=61

I apologize for bad English

Greetings from Bulgaria
First of all: thank you for offering help.
To keep my computers operable I reduced the number of cores to 8:
System 1: 3 cores @ 2.8 GHz i5, 1 HD7950, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 3257
System 2: 3 cores @ 1.6 GHz AMD A8-4555M APU, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 373 (my main working device)
System 3: 2 cores @ 3.08 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OSX 10.9; est. PPD 713
All systems are running properly without showing any errors.
The F&H Configuration Guide says: "The Folding@home (FAH) client typically runs well using the default settings."
So therefore my setup can't be completely wrong.

The 7950 probably isn't doing anything since Linux and F@H don't play well together (yet).
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June 10, 2014, 09:14:09 PM
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So I'm folding since Tuesday: 10 cores CPU and 1 HD7950. I didn't get neither points nor Curecoins. Is this "Folding for Curecoins" thing a hoax?

Same here. The payouts are ridiculously low. According to the FAHControls I have to get roughly 4000 PPD. Since yesterday my PPD @ cryptobullionpools were 325 (!). Today it's 910. For a whole week of folding I got 0.116 CURE which equals 0.9 cents.  Huh

Hello all. My first post here.

@ Rainer4256,

There is something wrong in your settings (configuration) on FAHControl.

CPU (10 cores - ??); You should received over - 20 000 PPD.
and 1 HD7950;  This GPU does with Core_17 (0x17) about 60 000-70 000 PPD.

You get (today according to statistics) around 4000+ PPD. Ask for help on - https://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=61

I apologize for bad English

Greetings from Bulgaria
First of all: thank you for offering help.
To keep my computers operable I reduced the number of cores to 8:
System 1: 3 cores @ 2.8 GHz i5, 1 HD7950, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 3257
System 2: 3 cores @ 1.6 GHz AMD A8-4555M APU, OS Ubuntu 14.04; est. PPD 373 (my main working device)
System 3: 2 cores @ 3.08 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OSX 10.9; est. PPD 713
All systems are running properly without showing any errors.
The F&H Configuration Guide says: "The Folding@home (FAH) client typically runs well using the default settings."
So therefore my setup can't be completely wrong.

The 7950 probably isn't doing anything since Linux and F@H don't play well together (yet).
I've heard about that. For the current project (9406) it predicts 10500 pts, which is roughly 3000 PPD for this 3-days project.

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June 10, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
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Low/wrong payout!  Huh

On web page http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/stats - User Aboy68
Yesterday in frame 14 the statistics was  about 240 coins.
Today in frame 3 the statistics are 255 coins.
My payout today was 126 coins  Angry
The payout are declining while my folding are stable and total folds are going DOWN.

Something is really spooky!!!
Please give me an understandable explanation!

Are there anybody else that have this!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
I did take the total numbers from column "Points 24h" and extracted my share of total value (From 6 pages)
Then I have 2,87% of total folding, 2,87% of 7488 are 215 coins!!!
This amount of total folding I have hade for many days, and the payouts have been 126, 146, 152, 152, 156, 157, 157.
The payout value are going in the wrong direction! Your calculations are wrong!!!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
Total 24h folding for team curecoin = 100,299,528
Aboy68 24h folding = 2,660,580
Share for Aboy68 are = 2.65%
2.65% of 7488 coins are 198 coins
Again a prof that your calculations are wrong!!!


Please correct the calculations and do adjustments to the faulty payouts!

//Aboy68
-- please correct me if I'm wrong --

Josh looked into the issue, and it seems that the pool is paying out the full 7488 coins per day to accounts, though doing a bit of math on my end, yesterday's frame saw you with 3.07% of the folding power of the team, which should have given you 229.8816 coins. What is the address your payouts are going to?

The pool does use a PPLNS system, which might be bugged. The payout for my account appears around 40% less than it should as well. . . I'll bug Josh to delve a bit deeper. Sad

My curecoin wallet address is BDPCrnhXeR28WyASN2yNSVhsmRB1KUmtD7
Thanks for seeing the same thing I have seen.
//Aboy68
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June 10, 2014, 10:09:32 PM
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I've heard about that. For the current project (9406) it predicts 10500 pts, which is roughly 3000 PPD for this 3-days project.

Do you have Passkey? -http://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-passkey/#ntoc1

On Win7/64bit my GTX 650 Ti (p9406); TPF-00:10:18; PPD - 31 800; Total Time - 17+ h.

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June 10, 2014, 10:54:15 PM
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I've heard about that. For the current project (9406) it predicts 10500 pts, which is roughly 3000 PPD for this 3-days project.

Do you have Passkey? -http://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-passkey/#ntoc1

On Win7/64bit my GTX 650 Ti (p9406); TPF-00:10:18; PPD - 31 800; Total Time - 17+ h.

GPU Folding Projects - Performance - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmQ6YZGMTUpFdHhxNkptVncyR2k4dVV6WDBmQXRJYVE&gid=2
Yes I have a passkey.
Fortunately I don't use Windows.
I'm not showing up at this list.

Thanks anyway.

P.S. I didn't know that F@H is rocket science.

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June 11, 2014, 01:49:26 AM
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Seems to me the IPO signed the death warrant for this coin which is very sad indeed, but we should all know better than to expect greed not to kill a good idea.
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June 11, 2014, 01:52:14 AM
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+1, this needs to be redone, properly.
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June 11, 2014, 05:27:47 AM
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Low/wrong payout!  Huh

On web page http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/stats - User Aboy68
Yesterday in frame 14 the statistics was  about 240 coins.
Today in frame 3 the statistics are 255 coins.
My payout today was 126 coins  Angry
The payout are declining while my folding are stable and total folds are going DOWN.

Something is really spooky!!!
Please give me an understandable explanation!

Are there anybody else that have this!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
I did take the total numbers from column "Points 24h" and extracted my share of total value (From 6 pages)
Then I have 2,87% of total folding, 2,87% of 7488 are 215 coins!!!
This amount of total folding I have hade for many days, and the payouts have been 126, 146, 152, 152, 156, 157, 157.
The payout value are going in the wrong direction! Your calculations are wrong!!!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
Total 24h folding for team curecoin = 100,299,528
Aboy68 24h folding = 2,660,580
Share for Aboy68 are = 2.65%
2.65% of 7488 coins are 198 coins
Again a prof that your calculations are wrong!!!


Please correct the calculations and do adjustments to the faulty payouts!

//Aboy68
-- please correct me if I'm wrong --

Josh looked into the issue, and it seems that the pool is paying out the full 7488 coins per day to accounts, though doing a bit of math on my end, yesterday's frame saw you with 3.07% of the folding power of the team, which should have given you 229.8816 coins. What is the address your payouts are going to?

The pool does use a PPLNS system, which might be bugged. The payout for my account appears around 40% less than it should as well. . . I'll bug Josh to delve a bit deeper. Sad

My curecoin wallet address is BDPCrnhXeR28WyASN2yNSVhsmRB1KUmtD7
Thanks for seeing the same thing I have seen.
//Aboy68

Due to the PPLNS bug I have lost about 800 coins the last 7 days, and I have been mining 24 days  Angry.
I have been learned by my parents/society to ALWAYS be honest, this can't be a pure mistake, to calculate shares is the real basic in school, I interprets that the dev team of this coin are NOT honest or have hidden agendas and that are not the way I like it. Please bring all on the table!!!

It's really easy to check your latest payout of coins, you take the 24h folding points for the cure team and your 24h points from this page:
    http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
    2014-06-11 07:36 Europe it's 100,299,260 points
And then you find your own 24h points, select your name and extract the 24h points.
    My points are now 2,713,276 points.
The really hard calculations that the dev team messed up is (2713276/100299260)*7488=202 coins
May payout should be something around 202 coins, (10% acceptable range is 184 to 220) this value are a moving target but it shows if you get your coins with a ok accuracy. I guess 10% should cover it.

If you find your payout to be more than 10% off, please post it then:

My payout have been about -30% off and that is not a calculations error.

//Aboy68
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June 11, 2014, 07:07:44 AM
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Low/wrong payout!  Huh

On web page http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/stats - User Aboy68
Yesterday in frame 14 the statistics was  about 240 coins.
Today in frame 3 the statistics are 255 coins.
My payout today was 126 coins  Angry
The payout are declining while my folding are stable and total folds are going DOWN.

Something is really spooky!!!
Please give me an understandable explanation!

Are there anybody else that have this!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
I did take the total numbers from column "Points 24h" and extracted my share of total value (From 6 pages)
Then I have 2,87% of total folding, 2,87% of 7488 are 215 coins!!!
This amount of total folding I have hade for many days, and the payouts have been 126, 146, 152, 152, 156, 157, 157.
The payout value are going in the wrong direction! Your calculations are wrong!!!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
Total 24h folding for team curecoin = 100,299,528
Aboy68 24h folding = 2,660,580
Share for Aboy68 are = 2.65%
2.65% of 7488 coins are 198 coins
Again a prof that your calculations are wrong!!!


Please correct the calculations and do adjustments to the faulty payouts!

//Aboy68
-- please correct me if I'm wrong --

Josh looked into the issue, and it seems that the pool is paying out the full 7488 coins per day to accounts, though doing a bit of math on my end, yesterday's frame saw you with 3.07% of the folding power of the team, which should have given you 229.8816 coins. What is the address your payouts are going to?

The pool does use a PPLNS system, which might be bugged. The payout for my account appears around 40% less than it should as well. . . I'll bug Josh to delve a bit deeper. Sad

My curecoin wallet address is BDPCrnhXeR28WyASN2yNSVhsmRB1KUmtD7
Thanks for seeing the same thing I have seen.
//Aboy68

Due to the PPLNS bug I have lost about 800 coins the last 7 days, and I have been mining 24 days  Angry.
I have been learned by my parents/society to ALWAYS be honest, this can't be a pure mistake, to calculate shares is the real basic in school, I interprets that the dev team of this coin are NOT honest or have hidden agendas and that are not the way I like it. Please bring all on the table!!!

It's really easy to check your latest payout of coins, you take the 24h folding points for the cure team and your 24h points from this page:
    http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
    2014-06-11 07:36 Europe it's 100,299,260 points
And then you find your own 24h points, select your name and extract the 24h points.
    My points are now 2,713,276 points.
The really hard calculations that the dev team messed up is (2713276/100299260)*7788=210 coins
May payout should be something around 210 coins, (10% acceptable range is 200 to 220) this value are a moving target but it shows if you get your coins with a ok accuracy. I guess 10% should cover it.

If you find your payout to be more than 10% off, please post it then:

My payout have been about -40% off and that is not a calculations error.

//Aboy68

hi aboy68,

cmiiw but i believe it's 7488 not 7788
according to this http://stats.curecoinfolding.com/daily.html

tk

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My payout have been about -40% off and that is not a calculations error.

//Aboy68

I did calculations, and looks like there is difference on daily basis, but total is very close to what it should be. So please do total calculation of at least 10 days.

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Low/wrong payout!  Huh

On web page http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/stats - User Aboy68
Yesterday in frame 14 the statistics was  about 240 coins.
Today in frame 3 the statistics are 255 coins.
My payout today was 126 coins  Angry
The payout are declining while my folding are stable and total folds are going DOWN.

Something is really spooky!!!
Please give me an understandable explanation!

Are there anybody else that have this!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
I did take the total numbers from column "Points 24h" and extracted my share of total value (From 6 pages)
Then I have 2,87% of total folding, 2,87% of 7488 are 215 coins!!!
This amount of total folding I have hade for many days, and the payouts have been 126, 146, 152, 152, 156, 157, 157.
The payout value are going in the wrong direction! Your calculations are wrong!!!

------------ Edit -------------

With statistics from http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
Total 24h folding for team curecoin = 100,299,528
Aboy68 24h folding = 2,660,580
Share for Aboy68 are = 2.65%
2.65% of 7488 coins are 198 coins
Again a prof that your calculations are wrong!!!


Please correct the calculations and do adjustments to the faulty payouts!

//Aboy68
-- please correct me if I'm wrong --

Josh looked into the issue, and it seems that the pool is paying out the full 7488 coins per day to accounts, though doing a bit of math on my end, yesterday's frame saw you with 3.07% of the folding power of the team, which should have given you 229.8816 coins. What is the address your payouts are going to?

The pool does use a PPLNS system, which might be bugged. The payout for my account appears around 40% less than it should as well. . . I'll bug Josh to delve a bit deeper. Sad

My curecoin wallet address is BDPCrnhXeR28WyASN2yNSVhsmRB1KUmtD7
Thanks for seeing the same thing I have seen.
//Aboy68

Due to the PPLNS bug I have lost about 800 coins the last 7 days, and I have been mining 24 days  Angry.
I have been learned by my parents/society to ALWAYS be honest, this can't be a pure mistake, to calculate shares is the real basic in school, I interprets that the dev team of this coin are NOT honest or have hidden agendas and that are not the way I like it. Please bring all on the table!!!

It's really easy to check your latest payout of coins, you take the 24h folding points for the cure team and your 24h points from this page:
    http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=2&t=224497&offset=1&search_text=&filter=active
    2014-06-11 07:36 Europe it's 100,299,260 points
And then you find your own 24h points, select your name and extract the 24h points.
    My points are now 2,713,276 points.
The really hard calculations that the dev team messed up is (2713276/100299260)*7788=210 coins
May payout should be something around 210 coins, (10% acceptable range is 200 to 220) this value are a moving target but it shows if you get your coins with a ok accuracy. I guess 10% should cover it.

If you find your payout to be more than 10% off, please post it then:

My payout have been about -40% off and that is not a calculations error.

//Aboy68

hi aboy68,

cmiiw but i believe it's 7488 not 7788
according to this http://stats.curecoinfolding.com/daily.html

tk

Yepp it is 7488
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June 11, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
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My payout have been about -40% off and that is not a calculations error.

//Aboy68

I did calculations, and looks like there is difference on daily basis, but total is very close to what it should be. So please do total calculation of at least 10 days.

First the payout are only based on daily shares so the averages out in 10 days are even more strange, there should not be ANY variations in these type of calculations. For fun I did a 12day calculation and it was still -12% off from what it should be. -12% for my are almost 3 GPU's not working and that are a lot of waste for noting.

Look at this spread of errors it makes me HuhHuhHuhHuh??, again - Please developers - put all details on the table. What is going on?

Calculated coins   Wallet coins       Diff
213,3277512   126,95       -68%
202,5632982   146,3               -38%
144,6901068   152,24         5%
146,3821938   152,24         4%
154,8686699   156,65         1%
170,2160332   157,8                -8%
181,9166571   157,8              -15%
127,0696147   94,17              -35%
111,6924741   80,61              -39%
82,82930888   95,38               13%
92,20017242   90,37               -2%
91,59280485   48,8               -88%


All information is grabbed from these pages:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=656893
Daily points 2014-05-30 to 2014-06-10.
Total coins a day: 7488 coins.

Please look deeper in to your setup, something are not what it should be.
//Aboy68
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June 11, 2014, 11:27:14 AM
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First the payout are only based on daily shares so the averages out in 10 days are even more strange, there should not be ANY variations in these type of calculations. For fun I did a 12day calculation and it was still -12% off from what it should be. -12% for my are almost 3 GPU's not working and that are a lot of waste for noting.


I think that daily variations are maybe because of different time zones / times taken into account between pool and certified WUs. I didn't have enough information from data sources to make 11 days calculation, I could do only for 10. I believe Your math is shifted for one day, therefore difference arose. Also, during this 10 days, time for payment was shifted for 17 hours. That point could be also source for some difference. Anyhow, there is no 40-50% difference for sure. My opinion is that pool should have historical data and calculations for folders, so there will not be doubts about it. Like it is now, there is possibility for confusion and miscalculations.

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June 11, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
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Aboy68:

Using the numbers on the CryptoBullionPools page, which are the ones you should use when calculating, my payment seem to be right in line.

Another user has reported his works out correctly as well.

I recommend tracking it for a few more days and using only the CryptoBullionPools numbers, as they're the ones that matter.
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June 11, 2014, 12:27:32 PM
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My numbers are pulling correctly off cryptobullionpools.com

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June 11, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
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First the payout are only based on daily shares so the averages out in 10 days are even more strange, there should not be ANY variations in these type of calculations. For fun I did a 12day calculation and it was still -12% off from what it should be. -12% for my are almost 3 GPU's not working and that are a lot of waste for noting.


I think that daily variations are maybe because of different time zones / times taken into account between pool and certified WUs. I didn't have enough information from data sources to make 11 days calculation, I could do only for 10. I believe Your math is shifted for one day, therefore difference arose. Also, during this 10 days, time for payment was shifted for 17 hours. That point could be also source for some difference. Anyhow, there is no 40-50% difference for sure. My opinion is that pool should have historical data and calculations for folders, so there will not be doubts about it. Like it is now, there is possibility for confusion and miscalculations.

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Ridiculous! Now you blame it on time zones.
Here are the estimated PPD (FAHControls) from yesterday on my 3 computers: 3660 + 1471 + 3661 = 8792 PPD. This morning cryptobullionpools showed 471 (!), yesterday it was 910.
I hesitate to call it fraudulent but there is something VERY wrong.

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