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May 14, 2014, 10:21:39 AM
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links to the folding pool and guide are broken =/


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May 14, 2014, 10:34:35 AM
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Yeah, I saw that thread to but down clocking didnt seem to help either  Embarrassed
Also my PPD is way lower now even if all the cards are running properly at the moment. when I started out I got about 415K PPD but now it wont go above 175K no matter what. I guess folding is not a straight forward as I thought  Undecided
I will dedicate today for trying to find a solution and if I come up with something I'll share it here.
It can be tricky yes. I started with 230k ppd. Then upgraded to 14.4 cat. then my ppd went down to 130k. Turned out the 14.4 was in fact working ad given 20% better yields.... but since my cards were now doing 95k each instead of 75k...my dualcore cpu couldnt handle the load and was bottlenecking the system and so i would get less instead of more. Then i went back to 13.12cat. and i was only getting 5k ppd.... but that turned out to be matter of impatience... just had to wait a few hours again for system to settle and now been toasting a stable 230k again for about a week...(havent touched any settings since =)) if you really cant seem to figure it out, add ur question + system details + logs on foldingforum. As long as you thread with respect they are always more then happy to help out.


links to the folding pool and guide are broken =/
foldingpool : https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/
foldingguide1: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about
sameguidedifferntplace http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=9.0

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May 14, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
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Just got my first 5 curecoins! It's a bit weird tho since the stanford link is showing 230k points or something and the pool just 49k.

Anyway, happy with my coins Smiley

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May 14, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
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Just got my first 5 curecoins! It's a bit weird tho since the stanford link is showing 230k points or something and the pool just 49k.
Anyway, happy with my coins Smiley
Congrats on your coins Smiley
stanford page is showing total number of ppd... pool shows daily ppd.
To check your stas /current points for the day /total points : http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=224497&p=2  (#182)

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May 14, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
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For anyone wondering about the payout delays and such, I'll tell you how mine worked for an example.

I started folding on May 10th and my work units usually take about 15 hours so probably completed some time May 11th (I was not home for the weekend so wasn't monitoring and don't remember exact time I started folding or ETA).

Yesterday, May 12th, during the afternoon (~19:00 UTC), on cryptobullionpools, I was seeing my PPD (120k) and expected payout (~24.7 CURE), and had an account balance of 0.000...CUR.

At 23:00 UTC last night (May 12th) my account was credited with the exact amount expected (24.67...), and I performed a cash out.

I just received my cash-out to my wallet at 18:00 UTC today (May 13th). Also, cryptobullionpools is showing 100k PPD for the day and an expected payout of ~11 coins. Account balance is 0.

So it seems accounts are credited at 23:00 UTC for work completed >24 hours earlier, and cashouts are handled at 18:00 UTC.

This is disheartening. I've been folding since May 10th at about 5PM PST at 300k PPD and only have 18 coins.

The cryptobullions pool is only showing my PPD as 72k, why is this?

I love this idea and it's clear that it's worthwhile given that the CureCoin team is the #1 folding team in only three days. There needs to be more information provided for the payouts though.

You have to understand, though, that the PPD metric is an average. I am actually folding at 180k PPD, yet I only had 120k points one day, and 100k points the next day. Why? Probably because I only turned in one work unit per card each of those days. Each work unit is worth about 60k, and completes in ~18 hours on my rig. That means, eventually, and every few days, I'm going to turn in two work units per card in a single day. That day I will get 240k points. Then I will go back to getting 120k points for a couple days, etc.

Your payout is not based on your calculated PPD, it is based on actual work submitted and verified.
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May 14, 2014, 11:07:45 AM
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what can i do to keep gpu usage for gtx770 at 100%(or close). The usage is jumping from 55%-90%?
And...how do i know i have everything configured right and that i am actualy earning curecoins? The pool(https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/userStatsAuth) is still not showing anything. Nothing at user stats hash rates, 0 points, 0 balance.
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May 14, 2014, 11:11:06 AM
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For anyone wondering about the payout delays and such, I'll tell you how mine worked for an example.

I started folding on May 10th and my work units usually take about 15 hours so probably completed some time May 11th (I was not home for the weekend so wasn't monitoring and don't remember exact time I started folding or ETA).

Yesterday, May 12th, during the afternoon (~19:00 UTC), on cryptobullionpools, I was seeing my PPD (120k) and expected payout (~24.7 CURE), and had an account balance of 0.000...CUR.

At 23:00 UTC last night (May 12th) my account was credited with the exact amount expected (24.67...), and I performed a cash out.

I just received my cash-out to my wallet at 18:00 UTC today (May 13th). Also, cryptobullionpools is showing 100k PPD for the day and an expected payout of ~11 coins. Account balance is 0.

So it seems accounts are credited at 23:00 UTC for work completed >24 hours earlier, and cashouts are handled at 18:00 UTC.

This is disheartening. I've been folding since May 10th at about 5PM PST at 300k PPD and only have 18 coins.

The cryptobullions pool is only showing my PPD as 72k, why is this?

I love this idea and it's clear that it's worthwhile given that the CureCoin team is the #1 folding team in only three days. There needs to be more information provided for the payouts though.

You have to understand, though, that the PPD metric is an average. I am actually folding at 180k PPD, yet I only had 120k points one day, and 100k points the next day. Why? Probably because I only turned in one work unit per card each of those days. Each work unit is worth about 60k, and completes in ~18 hours on my rig. That means, eventually, and every few days, I'm going to turn in two work units per card in a single day. That day I will get 240k points. Then I will go back to getting 120k points for a couple days, etc.

Your payout is not based on your calculated PPD, it is based on actual work submitted and verified.

How can we get some accounting / visibility into how these payouts are calculated.  Why does everyone have such different results? 
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May 14, 2014, 11:13:45 AM
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I would like to form my own local CureCoin folding group to rally the dudes from my community. Is that possible to do while still being connected to the pool distributing coins?

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May 14, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
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what can i do to keep gpu usage for gtx770 at 100%(or close). The usage is jumping from 55%-90%?
And...how do i know i have everything configured right and that i am actualy earning curecoins? The pool(https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/userStatsAuth) is still not showing anything. Nothing at user stats hash rates, 0 points, 0 balance.

For GPU usage I can't really help you. I have an AMD card and haven't had that problem. Are you folding on your CPU? Your CPU might be bottlenecking you so try pausing folding on it if you are and see if it changes.

For the stats, first you must have completed work units and have them verified by stanford. Check the curecoin's team stats or your user stats on the F@H page, or use the extreme overclockers page to make sure that you have earned points. As long as your username at cryptobullionpools matches your username in the curecoin F@H team you will be credited, but it may take 24 - 48 hours after you have been credited at F@H to be credited at cryptobullionpools. Also the hash rate on cryptobullionpools will always read 0 because it's an artifact of some copied web page code. Vorsholk mentioned that in a previous post.

F@H Team Curecoin stats:

http://fah-web2.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497

Extreme Overclockers Folding stats:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&srt=1&t=224497
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May 14, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
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For anyone wondering about the payout delays and such, I'll tell you how mine worked for an example.

I started folding on May 10th and my work units usually take about 15 hours so probably completed some time May 11th (I was not home for the weekend so wasn't monitoring and don't remember exact time I started folding or ETA).

Yesterday, May 12th, during the afternoon (~19:00 UTC), on cryptobullionpools, I was seeing my PPD (120k) and expected payout (~24.7 CURE), and had an account balance of 0.000...CUR.

At 23:00 UTC last night (May 12th) my account was credited with the exact amount expected (24.67...), and I performed a cash out.

I just received my cash-out to my wallet at 18:00 UTC today (May 13th). Also, cryptobullionpools is showing 100k PPD for the day and an expected payout of ~11 coins. Account balance is 0.

So it seems accounts are credited at 23:00 UTC for work completed >24 hours earlier, and cashouts are handled at 18:00 UTC.

This is disheartening. I've been folding since May 10th at about 5PM PST at 300k PPD and only have 18 coins.

The cryptobullions pool is only showing my PPD as 72k, why is this?

I love this idea and it's clear that it's worthwhile given that the CureCoin team is the #1 folding team in only three days. There needs to be more information provided for the payouts though.

You have to understand, though, that the PPD metric is an average. I am actually folding at 180k PPD, yet I only had 120k points one day, and 100k points the next day. Why? Probably because I only turned in one work unit per card each of those days. Each work unit is worth about 60k, and completes in ~18 hours on my rig. That means, eventually, and every few days, I'm going to turn in two work units per card in a single day. That day I will get 240k points. Then I will go back to getting 120k points for a couple days, etc.

Your payout is not based on your calculated PPD, it is based on actual work submitted and verified.

How can we get some accounting / visibility into how these payouts are calculated.  Why does everyone have such different results?  

If your asking that means you didnt understand baracuda's response correctly. Payouts are calculated :
your points for the day (so not your estimate, but actual submitted wu's ppd) / team curecoins total points for the day * 7488 =  your payout

so if my folding at home client says im getting 230k ppd, like baracuda says that doesnt mean that those are my actual points.. it is an estimate.
If you want to know for sure and doublecheck points vs payouts.... start analysing team list : http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=224497 and compare those stats with payouts show on pool.

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May 14, 2014, 11:21:18 AM
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Yeah, I saw that thread to but down clocking didnt seem to help either  Embarrassed
Also my PPD is way lower now even if all the cards are running properly at the moment. when I started out I got about 415K PPD but now it wont go above 175K no matter what. I guess folding is not a straight forward as I thought  Undecided
I will dedicate today for trying to find a solution and if I come up with something I'll share it here.
It can be tricky yes. I started with 230k ppd. Then upgraded to 14.4 cat. then my ppd went down to 130k. Turned out the 14.4 was in fact working ad given 20% better yields.... but since my cards were now doing 95k each instead of 75k...my dualcore cpu couldnt handle the load and was bottlenecking the system and so i would get less instead of more. Then i went back to 13.12cat. and i was only getting 5k ppd.... but that turned out to be matter of impatience... just had to wait a few hours again for system to settle and now been toasting a stable 230k again for about a week...(havent touched any settings since =)) if you really cant seem to figure it out, add ur question + system details + logs on foldingforum. As long as you thread with respect they are always more then happy to help out.


links to the folding pool and guide are broken =/
foldingpool : https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/
foldingguide1: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about
sameguidedifferntplace http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=9.0
all  those links are broken =/


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May 14, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
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A newbie question.....

Can i use 2 different machines with the same User through the web app?

both of them are showing folding in process but the total points count did not change so much since than.




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May 14, 2014, 11:27:08 AM
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all  those links are broken =/
Links all work fine for me....? maybe something on your end.. Try using a proxy see if you can connect then..

A newbie question.....
Can i use 2 different machines with the same User through the web app?
both of them are showing folding in process but the total points count did not change so much since than.
Not 100% sure i understand ur question. But yes you can use same username on multiple machines.
Point count only changes after work has been completed.. (then after about an hour pages get updated and you should see points)

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May 14, 2014, 11:28:01 AM
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Yeah, I saw that thread to but down clocking didnt seem to help either  Embarrassed
Also my PPD is way lower now even if all the cards are running properly at the moment. when I started out I got about 415K PPD but now it wont go above 175K no matter what. I guess folding is not a straight forward as I thought  Undecided
I will dedicate today for trying to find a solution and if I come up with something I'll share it here.
It can be tricky yes. I started with 230k ppd. Then upgraded to 14.4 cat. then my ppd went down to 130k. Turned out the 14.4 was in fact working ad given 20% better yields.... but since my cards were now doing 95k each instead of 75k...my dualcore cpu couldnt handle the load and was bottlenecking the system and so i would get less instead of more. Then i went back to 13.12cat. and i was only getting 5k ppd.... but that turned out to be matter of impatience... just had to wait a few hours again for system to settle and now been toasting a stable 230k again for about a week...(havent touched any settings since =)) if you really cant seem to figure it out, add ur question + system details + logs on foldingforum. As long as you thread with respect they are always more then happy to help out.


links to the folding pool and guide are broken =/
foldingpool : https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/
foldingguide1: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about
sameguidedifferntplace http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=9.0

Interesting, i might upgrade my CAT drivers to 14.4 tonight. Has anyone else noticed an increase with 14.4?



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May 14, 2014, 11:29:18 AM
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A newbie question.....

Can i use 2 different machines with the same User through the web app?

both of them are showing folding in process but the total points count did not change so much since than.

You can use as many machines as you want, just use the same username and passkey on each so they all fold to the same account.
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May 14, 2014, 11:30:00 AM
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How can we get some accounting / visibility into how these payouts are calculated.  Why does everyone have such different results?  

Well you can always check manually, but it's a bit of a process atm. I'm pretty sure the devs are working on making everything more real-time but you'll have to ask them about that. Right now you would have to keep a record of your total points earned according to the F@H site, then find the difference of your total points 24 hours later, that will give you your points earned on any given day. Problem is I'm not sure what time of day the cryptobullionpools scrapes this info from the F@H site. Anywhoo, once you've done that, you can look at the daily stats on cryptobullionpools and find the total points for the day (69910158 as of last update). Then it's just a matter of doing the calculation (My Points) / (Total Team Points) * 7488 = (Amount of Coins I Will Receive)

In my case on the 12th I had 120k points and the total team points were 37880030 so I should have earned 120k / 37880k * 7488 = ~24 coins....which I did actually receive.
Yesterday I had 105k points and total team points were 69910k so I should have earned 105k / 69910k * 7488 = ~11 coins. I did actually receive that amount, so I know everything is on the up and up in my case.

Interesting, i might upgrade my CAT drivers to 14.4 tonight. Has anyone else noticed an increase with 14.4?

Yes mafia I went from 70k and 60k ppd on each card to 90k and 80k after going from 13.12 to 14.4.
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May 14, 2014, 11:31:56 AM
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Yeah, I saw that thread to but down clocking didnt seem to help either  Embarrassed
Also my PPD is way lower now even if all the cards are running properly at the moment. when I started out I got about 415K PPD but now it wont go above 175K no matter what. I guess folding is not a straight forward as I thought  Undecided
I will dedicate today for trying to find a solution and if I come up with something I'll share it here.
It can be tricky yes. I started with 230k ppd. Then upgraded to 14.4 cat. then my ppd went down to 130k. Turned out the 14.4 was in fact working ad given 20% better yields.... but since my cards were now doing 95k each instead of 75k...my dualcore cpu couldnt handle the load and was bottlenecking the system and so i would get less instead of more. Then i went back to 13.12cat. and i was only getting 5k ppd.... but that turned out to be matter of impatience... just had to wait a few hours again for system to settle and now been toasting a stable 230k again for about a week...(havent touched any settings since =)) if you really cant seem to figure it out, add ur question + system details + logs on foldingforum. As long as you thread with respect they are always more then happy to help out.


links to the folding pool and guide are broken =/
foldingpool : https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/
foldingguide1: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about
sameguidedifferntplace http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=9.0
all  those links are broken =/
that's the funny thing i tried several different proxy connections. =/


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May 14, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
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what can i do to keep gpu usage for gtx770 at 100%(or close). The usage is jumping from 55%-90%?
And...how do i know i have everything configured right and that i am actualy earning curecoins? The pool(https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/userStatsAuth) is still not showing anything. Nothing at user stats hash rates, 0 points, 0 balance.

For GPU usage I can't really help you. I have an AMD card and haven't had that problem. Are you folding on your CPU? Your CPU might be bottlenecking you so try pausing folding on it if you are and see if it changes.

For the stats, first you must have completed work units and have them verified by stanford. Check the curecoin's team stats or your user stats on the F@H page, or use the extreme overclockers page to make sure that you have earned points. As long as your username at cryptobullionpools matches your username in the curecoin F@H team you will be credited, but it may take 24 - 48 hours after you have been credited at F@H to be credited at cryptobullionpools. Also the hash rate on cryptobullionpools will always read 0 because it's an artifact of some copied web page code. Vorsholk mentioned that in a previous post.

F@H Team Curecoin stats:

http://fah-web2.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497

Extreme Overclockers Folding stats:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&srt=1&t=224497

Yes the amds(2x r9 270) are working fine at 65k ppd and 70k ppd. I have paused and started the folding on gtx770 and now the gpu usage seems to be ok at start(only jumping from 91-99%) but after a few minutes it starts to fluctuate from 51-99% again. The Estimated PPD is also miserably low at 5327 :S. The CPU folding is paused so there souldnt be any bottleneck.

abaout stats: I am listed at F@H Team and Extreme Overclockers Folding stats. I have 5 total WUs ...is that ok for 2x r9 270 folding for 20hours?

Thanks for help.
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May 14, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
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@ zak, then im not sure what to tell you.. sorry..   Undecided
@mafia, be sure to download the re-release of cat 14.4 http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows%207%20-%2064#amd-catalyst-packages
as the initial release had some problems... (the re-release actually still does, was showing my 7950 as r9 200.. so install at own risk..  =))
@seljak, when starting the gpu keep an eye on cpu performance/load. my cpu is 95-100% load and my gpu loads (3 cards do the same thing urs doing.. jump from 6/70 -100% and back..jump jump jump.... still get good points... but my cpu is the one that is limiting my folding capabilitys

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May 14, 2014, 11:37:11 AM
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need more folding pools then =/


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