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May 21, 2014, 08:48:12 PM
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just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

Something like scrypt 100 MH/s

False. Scrypt isn't used for this cryptocurrency.


500 coins a day means 6.7% of all the coins released in a day 14.8 million points per day.


A single quad 780 ti rig could get 1 million points per day (slightly less) so you would need 15 of these.

I meant the hardware needed to get 100 MH/s with scrypt... But actually i was way off, AMD-wise it should be 30 R9 280x


You're way off, a single R9 280x gets around 120k ppd on avarage, which would mean you'll need around 120 to get 14.8 million ppd

290x gets close to 200k, 290 can do 170k, 780ti can get in spitting distance of 300k PPD with the right project.

I get 600k+ PPD out of a 4x 290 rig, 450k+ out of a 2x 780ti rig, 450k+ PPD out of a 4x 280x rig, and about 280k PPD out of a 4x 270 (non-x) rig.  

About 2.1 million PPD for all my rigs (290 rig, 280x rig, 780ti rig, and two 270 rigs), according to the FaH client (all rigs added to the client via remote), and that matches really damn close to my actual PPD by the time you factor time lost for new work and the odd glitch.  On scrypt, that combo of rigs is about 11mhs, just to put it in perspective.

And on my best day that earned me 67 coins.   So those guys pulling down 400-500 are throwing some serious hash (er, folding) power at Curecoin.  

Probably not using GPU's but servers instead like the ones mentioned in this guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=604172 (Or their own servers obviously)

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May 21, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
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clever

just not clear on why people would hold curecoin

for the previously purely altruistic protein folders, there is only incentive to sell

buying curecoin doesn't support protein folding or scientific research except in a stretch of the imagination that a higher priced curecoin helps donations (more selling)


please explain why this won't be worth 2 satoshis in a month
if it's worth only 2 satoshi nobody would fold because they wouldn't recoup their electricity costs

so yes, people have to buy the coin to support folding

they would have to, but why would they

as with all coins, miners are dumping the coin on exchanges, and now we have new protein folders dumping coins

it is not uncommon to see a coin's price fall out of sync with base costs

so I get the concept behind curecoin, but what supports the price ?


some coins have price support by requiring coins to be held for ongoing perks, essentially removing coins from circulation. other coins have other forms of utility


here we have some kind of merge mining protein folding, a somewhat interesting distribution method for coins between cpu/gpu and sha256 asics, but nothing that makes it seem stable

so now altruism has been further thinned out between protein folding AND supporting the currency (so that others can cash out). When I was reading the OP I was looking for that "AHA!" moment to see how the protein folders contribute to the curecoin price, just like how the curecoin financial incentive contributes to more hash rate for the protein folding... to create a feedback loop. But this doesn't exist.

just off the top of my head, maybe to contribute to protein folding cpu/gpu holders need to own X amount of curecoin. In turn they'll get the folding points or whatever as well as more curecoin. Obviously this idea isn't refined, and flawed because cpu/gpu holders are the least likely to be able to have value to exchange for the coin, compared to the expensive ASIC owners.. but the concept is that the extra perk of the coin requires removing some of the coin from circulation, improving scarcity and price and WORTH.






I guess that in the future projects that need computing power will have to compete (maybe by paying the devs). It's said that other scientific projects can be easily added. Maybe there will be many? Or maybe there will be many curecoins for many projects?

Anyway by selling or purchasing the coin, private firm/labs will be able to control the points their project is receiving. I think it's easier than renting machines or just waiting for altruist minds. For that same purpose, these firms will have the incentive to promote the coin and could propose services paid in curecoin.  
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May 21, 2014, 09:28:23 PM
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I've pledged another 50CURE for the logo bounty bringing the total up to 300CURE!

Enter your design here:
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May 21, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
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I've pledged another 50CURE for the logo bounty bringing the total up to 300CURE!

Enter your design here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612699.0

Nice - thank you for your work with this - looking forward to seeing how this goes.

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May 21, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
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clever

just not clear on why people would hold curecoin

for the previously purely altruistic protein folders, there is only incentive to sell

buying curecoin doesn't support protein folding or scientific research except in a stretch of the imagination that a higher priced curecoin helps donations (more selling)


please explain why this won't be worth 2 satoshis in a month
if it's worth only 2 satoshi nobody would fold because they wouldn't recoup their electricity costs

so yes, people have to buy the coin to support folding

they would have to, but why would they

as with all coins, miners are dumping the coin on exchanges, and now we have new protein folders dumping coins

it is not uncommon to see a coin's price fall out of sync with base costs

so I get the concept behind curecoin, but what supports the price ?


some coins have price support by requiring coins to be held for ongoing perks, essentially removing coins from circulation. other coins have other forms of utility


here we have some kind of merge mining protein folding, a somewhat interesting distribution method for coins between cpu/gpu and sha256 asics, but nothing that makes it seem stable

so now altruism has been further thinned out between protein folding AND supporting the currency (so that others can cash out). When I was reading the OP I was looking for that "AHA!" moment to see how the protein folders contribute to the curecoin price, just like how the curecoin financial incentive contributes to more hash rate for the protein folding... to create a feedback loop. But this doesn't exist.

just off the top of my head, maybe to contribute to protein folding cpu/gpu holders need to own X amount of curecoin. In turn they'll get the folding points or whatever as well as more curecoin. Obviously this idea isn't refined, and flawed because cpu/gpu holders are the least likely to be able to have value to exchange for the coin, compared to the expensive ASIC owners.. but the concept is that the extra perk of the coin requires removing some of the coin from circulation, improving scarcity and price and WORTH.






I guess that in the future projects that need computing power will have to compete (maybe by paying the devs). It's said that other scientific projects can be easily added. Maybe there will be many? Or maybe there will be many curecoins for many projects?

Anyway by selling or purchasing the coin, private firm/labs will be able to control the points their project is receiving. I think it's easier than renting machines or just waiting for altruist minds. For that same purpose, these firms will have the incentive to promote the coin and could propose services paid in curecoin.  

It wouldn't be by paying the devs but we could always add more work in the cure. Their could eventually be many for example we could soon make a curecoin boinc team find the difference in how hard the points are to earn and open a boinc team which will tie us to many more projects.

I like the idea of using curecoin to pay for research.


This coins extremely cheap now I think I'll buy a few hundred tomorrow.

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May 21, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
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NO kidding.....
Down 30%+ today Huh


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May 21, 2014, 09:40:28 PM
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just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

Based on what I have and what I receive you would need approximately 31 R9 290X's and non-bottlenecking CPU's to drive them to get around 500 CureCoins as of today.
I would double that (at least... around 70gpu). I have 1 gtx780ti and 1 R9 290x, got today 10cure (but I registered only 300k over my nominal ppd which is between higher 450k and 500k... some problems on my side (so to speak... the gtx780ti being switched with the 750ti on new job...) and some long job which didn't make it to the deadline).

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May 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
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just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

I'm running 15 R9 290X TRIX's and one GTX 590 spread out over 9 machines.  7 of the machines have two R9 290X TRIX's in them.  One old machine has a single R290X TRIX and another old machine has the GTX 590.

That gets me around 3 million PPD and todays payout was 100 CureCoins.  So it looks to me like you would need somewhere along the lines of 75 R9 290X's and the CPU's to drive them without bottlenecking and of course with more folding power being added all the time the payouts will continue to decline.
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May 21, 2014, 09:42:56 PM
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just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

Based on what I have and what I receive you would need approximately 31 R9 290X's and non-bottlenecking CPU's to drive them to get around 500 CureCoins as of today.
I would double that (at least... around 70gpu). I have 1 gtx780ti and 1 R9 290x, got today 10cure (but I registered only 300k over my nominal ppd which is between higher 450k and 500k... some problems on my side (so to speak... the gtx780ti being switched with the 750ti on new job...) and some long job which didn't make it to the deadline).

GAH.  I immediately deleted the message when I put it out and you already had it quoted.  lol  oops!  See my retyped post above and I agree.  It would be 70+ GPU's.
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May 21, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
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Great coin, but are the devs going to pitch the coin to store owners so that i have somewhere to spend them?

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May 21, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
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Great coin, but are the devs going to pitch the coin to store owners so that i have somewhere to spend them?
The devs, and the community, are always on the lookout for store opportunities. If you know someone who might accept cure send them a message!

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May 21, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
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just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

Based on what I have and what I receive you would need approximately 31 R9 290X's and non-bottlenecking CPU's to drive them to get around 500 CureCoins as of today.
I would double that (at least... around 70gpu). I have 1 gtx780ti and 1 R9 290x, got today 10cure (but I registered only 300k over my nominal ppd which is between higher 450k and 500k... some problems on my side (so to speak... the gtx780ti being switched with the 750ti on new job...) and some long job which didn't make it to the deadline).

GAH.  I immediately deleted the message when I put it out and you already had it quoted.  lol  oops!  See my retyped post above and I agree.  It would be 70+ GPU's.

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so there is no PR, makes me sad :/
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May 21, 2014, 10:37:13 PM
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and it will be hard to survice since there are now 20 "coins" created every day

remembering the old times when there were only 15 at all
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May 22, 2014, 03:40:26 AM
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and it will be hard to survice since there are now 20 "coins" created every day

remembering the old times when there were only 15 at all

Do you have any specific advice. We are working on it but it is not a piece of cake.

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May 22, 2014, 04:00:49 AM
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HI

What to look at when folding:

1: TPF is the time it takes to fold 1%, when you start folding you need to wait until 1% are fold before you get the numbers right for TPF.
2: If you get a work that stalls with 99.99% then you need to put the folding slot for that work in to "On Idle" and then delete the work that fails.
    if you can't delete the work you need to restart the computer, then the code are stuck in the GPU. After restart you delete the work and click again  "On Idle" to restart a new work. Works every time for me.
    you find the works in this folder "your drive":\Users\"username"\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\work\"work number".
    this is something that could happen with AMD GPU's. Standford know about this error.
3: If you get a RED GPU that are "Fail" the you need to do the "On Idle" and restart and change BIOS settings PCIe type to gen2.
4: Your GPU's need to have original BIOS, no changes!
5: To setup a stable system you need the same numbers of CPU compared to GPU's, 4 GPU's ea 4 GPU's!!!!!!!!!
6: To make a number of minimal numbers of STAL's you need to change the motherboard PCI'e type to Gen2, change it in the motherboard BIOS.
7: Please use AMD drivers version 14.4 (People say it produces more points) (of coarse if you have AMD cards like 280x).
8: Put the folding power to FULL in the FAHControl software.
9: Check you indentity! It's case sensitive.
        Use the same on the folding pool: www.cryptobullionpools.com
        There are only ONE pool to use when you are folding, ASICS have the usual pools......working side by side, no competititon!
        The homepage stats are lagging, not much usable info on that page except for you latest ranging in payout.
         And your settings about payout adress etc...
         It's not like a ordinary Scrypt pool page.
10: Check that you are folding with team 224497.
11: Power consumtion compared to Scrypt are less then 50% Smiley -> lower noise and heat -> longer lifetime of the GPU!

Smiley Curecoin are COOL and HEALTHY Smiley

I have 24*280x GPU's and they are producing around 3500000 points every day now!
    My stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=656893
    On every computer I have default workers that are made when I install the folding software, 4 GPU's and 1 CPU, no changes!!!!
    I have USB3.0 raiser cables on every GPU.
    My TPF's are 6 to 9 minutes. And they are all ok.
    When I did have 2 CPU's on 4 GPU's I only did have problems, now when I have 4CPU's on 4 GPU's all works fine! Smiley


This is mandatory points 1,2,3,5,6
When you have your updated TPF's you can calculate your PPD on this page:
      http://www.linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php

You only get your PPD registered when a work is done and uploaded.
    Yes your PPD's for the works you delete are gone in space!
My experience is that payout is lagging 48h, wait and you get your coins! No problemas!!!
    I have started 3 users and there are newer a problem with the payout.

Stat pages:
    http://curecoin.net/index.php/inside-curecoin/stats
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497
            Search your name here (After 48h+)

Happy folding
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May 22, 2014, 04:03:08 AM
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Great advice Aboy68!

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May 22, 2014, 04:20:29 AM
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A member of our community asked the CureCoin guys if they would be happy to accept it on the NobleCoin marketplace. They responded perfectly in saying their decentralized coin can be accepted by anyone and they don't presume to determine who accepts it.

However I only ever ask because it sometimes seems rude to 'step in' on another coins economy and detract attention towards another. That being said, I genuinely support CureCoin personally and would be happy to take it on the NobleCoin marketplace (www.noblemovement.com/marketplace) so that those who want it to be backed by somewhere to spend it can have so. I will also give it the 12% discount that NOBL enjoys, only because I believe in what CURE is doing and I want that to be known as the honest truth. In the future I hope all coins use their hash to contribute to causes such as this, but this is some support I can show today.

The marketplace has 100% positively rated feedback, has been open near 5 months, my personal details and ABN (Australian Business Number) are publicly available. To make it easy we need CoinPayments, but I will be happy to promote and donate myself towards getting listed there. I just need some blessings from the community that it is OK to go ahead with it, and I'll go ahead.

Cheers!

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May 22, 2014, 06:14:17 AM
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A member of our community asked the CureCoin guys if they would be happy to accept it on the NobleCoin marketplace. They responded perfectly in saying their decentralized coin can be accepted by anyone and they don't presume to determine who accepts it.

However I only ever ask because it sometimes seems rude to 'step in' on another coins economy and detract attention towards another. That being said, I genuinely support CureCoin personally and would be happy to take it on the NobleCoin marketplace (www.noblemovement.com/marketplace) so that those who want it to be backed by somewhere to spend it can have so. I will also give it the 12% discount that NOBL enjoys, only because I believe in what CURE is doing and I want that to be known as the honest truth. In the future I hope all coins use their hash to contribute to causes such as this, but this is some support I can show today.

The marketplace has 100% positively rated feedback, has been open near 5 months, my personal details and ABN (Australian Business Number) are publicly available. To make it easy we need CoinPayments, but I will be happy to promote and donate myself towards getting listed there. I just need blessings from the community that it is OK to go ahead with it, and I'll go ahead.

Cheers!

I think its a great idea - go for it!

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May 22, 2014, 06:50:14 AM
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A member of our community asked the CureCoin guys if they would be happy to accept it on the NobleCoin marketplace. They responded perfectly in saying their decentralized coin can be accepted by anyone and they don't presume to determine who accepts it.

However I only ever ask because it sometimes seems rude to 'step in' on another coins economy and detract attention towards another. That being said, I genuinely support CureCoin personally and would be happy to take it on the NobleCoin marketplace (www.noblemovement.com/marketplace) so that those who want it to be backed by somewhere to spend it can have so. I will also give it the 12% discount that NOBL enjoys, only because I believe in what CURE is doing and I want that to be known as the honest truth. In the future I hope all coins use their hash to contribute to causes such as this, but this is some support I can show today.

The marketplace has 100% positively rated feedback, has been open near 5 months, my personal details and ABN (Australian Business Number) are publicly available. To make it easy we need CoinPayments, but I will be happy to promote and donate myself towards getting listed there. I just need blessings from the community that it is OK to go ahead with it, and I'll go ahead.

Cheers!

I think its a great idea - go for it!
I also like the idea! (Even though I only have a small involvement in the community
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