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May 25, 2014, 05:16:25 AM
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I'm back to having issues again. My first folding job finished (after another multi-hour run). It submitted fine. The next one is folding at a rate of only 2k PPD (as opposed to the 90k I started the first one with and the 60k for the second one). It's been running for 30 minutes now and says it has an ETA of over 10 days. Here's the log:

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04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-05-25T04:39:04Z ***********************
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Project: 13000 (Run 1394, Clone 8, Gen 5)
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Unit: 0x0000000a538b3db7531125e7c3cc426f
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Machine: 1
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file state.xml
04:39:06:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file system.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file integrator.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file core.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Digital signatures verified
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Version 0.0.52
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0%)
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
04:54:38:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 50000 out of 5000000 steps (1%)
05:04:34:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 100000 out of 5000000 steps (2%)

I'm just baffled because the log shows it being 1/3 the speed of the last fold, though the client itself claims it's less than 1/40th the speed. Along with this, why would it even be 1/3 the speed? Nothing has changed.

The WU has changed.  Different work units have different difficulties which impacts the time it takes to do the work.  I have found the client displays to be completely unreliable.  I always look at the logs.  As long as your percent complete in the logs keeps moving up everything is fine as far I know.

Edit:  Additionally if you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.
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May 25, 2014, 05:18:32 AM
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I'm back to having issues again. My first folding job finished (after another multi-hour run). It submitted fine. The next one is folding at a rate of only 2k PPD (as opposed to the 90k I started the first one with and the 60k for the second one). It's been running for 30 minutes now and says it has an ETA of over 10 days. Here's the log:

Code:
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-05-25T04:39:04Z ***********************
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Project: 13000 (Run 1394, Clone 8, Gen 5)
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Unit: 0x0000000a538b3db7531125e7c3cc426f
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Machine: 1
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file state.xml
04:39:06:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file system.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file integrator.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file core.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Digital signatures verified
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Version 0.0.52
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0%)
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
04:54:38:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 50000 out of 5000000 steps (1%)
05:04:34:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 100000 out of 5000000 steps (2%)

I'm just baffled because the log shows it being 1/3 the speed of the last fold, though the client itself claims it's less than 1/40th the speed. Along with this, why would it even be 1/3 the speed? Nothing has changed.

The WU has changed.  Different work units have different difficulties which impacts the time it takes to do the work.  I have found the client displays to be completely unreliable.  I always look at the logs.  As long as your percent complete in the logs keeps moving up everything is fine as far I know.

Hmm, looking at the past one, it seems you are right:

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03:39:14:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2125000 out of 2500000 steps (85%)
03:42:41:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2150000 out of 2500000 steps (86%)
03:46:26:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2175000 out of 2500000 steps (87%)
03:49:53:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2200000 out of 2500000 steps (88%)
03:53:40:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2225000 out of 2500000 steps (89%)
03:57:07:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2250000 out of 2500000 steps (90%)
04:00:52:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2275000 out of 2500000 steps (91%)
04:04:21:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2300000 out of 2500000 steps (92%)
04:08:05:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2325000 out of 2500000 steps (93%)
04:11:35:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2350000 out of 2500000 steps (94%)
04:15:19:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2375000 out of 2500000 steps (95%)
04:18:48:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2400000 out of 2500000 steps (96%)
04:22:30:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2425000 out of 2500000 steps (97%)
04:26:00:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2450000 out of 2500000 steps (98%)
04:29:44:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2475000 out of 2500000 steps (99%)
04:33:20:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2500000 out of 2500000 steps (100%)

This new one appears to be 2x as many steps. Why that means it takes 3x as long confuses me though. But does this also mean that the new one is worth at least 2x as many points and therefore, while the time is a lot longer, the reward is better to compensate?
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May 25, 2014, 05:25:59 AM
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well EMC2 more decent than this crap coin
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May 25, 2014, 05:26:25 AM
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I'm back to having issues again. My first folding job finished (after another multi-hour run). It submitted fine. The next one is folding at a rate of only 2k PPD (as opposed to the 90k I started the first one with and the 60k for the second one). It's been running for 30 minutes now and says it has an ETA of over 10 days. Here's the log:

Code:
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-05-25T04:39:04Z ***********************
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Project: 13000 (Run 1394, Clone 8, Gen 5)
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Unit: 0x0000000a538b3db7531125e7c3cc426f
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Machine: 1
04:39:05:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file state.xml
04:39:06:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file system.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file integrator.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Reading tar file core.xml
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Digital signatures verified
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
04:39:07:WU00:FS01:0x17:Version 0.0.52
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0%)
04:44:23:WU00:FS01:0x17:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
04:54:38:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 50000 out of 5000000 steps (1%)
05:04:34:WU00:FS01:0x17:Completed 100000 out of 5000000 steps (2%)

I'm just baffled because the log shows it being 1/3 the speed of the last fold, though the client itself claims it's less than 1/40th the speed. Along with this, why would it even be 1/3 the speed? Nothing has changed.

The WU has changed.  Different work units have different difficulties which impacts the time it takes to do the work.  I have found the client displays to be completely unreliable.  I always look at the logs.  As long as your percent complete in the logs keeps moving up everything is fine as far I know.

Hmm, looking at the past one, it seems you are right:

Code:
03:39:14:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2125000 out of 2500000 steps (85%)
03:42:41:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2150000 out of 2500000 steps (86%)
03:46:26:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2175000 out of 2500000 steps (87%)
03:49:53:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2200000 out of 2500000 steps (88%)
03:53:40:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2225000 out of 2500000 steps (89%)
03:57:07:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2250000 out of 2500000 steps (90%)
04:00:52:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2275000 out of 2500000 steps (91%)
04:04:21:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2300000 out of 2500000 steps (92%)
04:08:05:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2325000 out of 2500000 steps (93%)
04:11:35:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2350000 out of 2500000 steps (94%)
04:15:19:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2375000 out of 2500000 steps (95%)
04:18:48:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2400000 out of 2500000 steps (96%)
04:22:30:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2425000 out of 2500000 steps (97%)
04:26:00:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2450000 out of 2500000 steps (98%)
04:29:44:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2475000 out of 2500000 steps (99%)
04:33:20:WU01:FS01:0x17:Completed 2500000 out of 2500000 steps (100%)

This new one appears to be 2x as many steps. Why that means it takes 3x as long confuses me though. But does this also mean that the new one is worth at least 2x as many points and therefore, while the time is a lot longer, the reward is better to compensate?

I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.
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May 25, 2014, 05:27:31 AM
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well EMC2 more decent than this crap coin

ROFL.  You had to create a new account just to troll this forum huh?
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May 25, 2014, 05:29:51 AM
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

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04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.
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May 25, 2014, 05:33:01 AM
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Let people complain all they want; it's their own opinion and has no impact on what we do or how we do it. If people want to volunteer, that's their choice. If people want to be compensated (and compensation is an option), that's their choice. What others think shouldn't be any concern to you; you do what you do, and they will do what they do.

I completely agree with you.  I can't say it concerns me.  It isn't like their opinion will change my behavior.  I just find the whole argument rather baffling.


We're not folding for pharmaceuticals but for Universities like Stanford who are doing the research.

We may not get the treatment for free but at least there's treatment which can be better then whats available right now.

I'm aware of who is running the research and hopefully it leads to cures as well as better treatments, but that really wasn't the point of my post.
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

Code:
04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.

Edited: I wrote what was happening essentially backwards so I fixed it below.

Yep that line you have is what I look at.  I have a computer where the line shown in the log is consistently double what is shown in the client.  They mismatch on the other computers as well but usually not as much.  The point is the log will tell you what is actually happening.
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May 25, 2014, 05:38:13 AM
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

Code:
04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.

Yep that line you have is what I look at.  I have a computer where the line shown in the log is consistently less that half what is shown in the client.  They mismatch on the other computers as well but usually not as much.  The point is the log will tell you what is actually happening.


Ahh, got you. This explains a lot. And magically the client just updated to show the true timing and increased the PPD to 72k...

I'm not getting how some people have 100k+ with their 7950's though.
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May 25, 2014, 05:43:13 AM
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

Code:
04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.

Yep that line you have is what I look at.  I have a computer where the line shown in the log is consistently less that half what is shown in the client.  They mismatch on the other computers as well but usually not as much.  The point is the log will tell you what is actually happening.


Ahh, got you. This explains a lot. And magically the client just updated to show the true timing and increased the PPD to 72k...

I'm not getting how some people have 100k+ with their 7950's though.

You won't know what your average PPD is until you have run for several days at least after you get the card tuned.  Remember when someone says they get 100K+ PPD that means points per day.  Not points per WU.  If you get a few work units that take a long time to complete you will end up with some work that was done but isn't awarded to the next day so-to-speak.  You need a few days to a week to let it all average out.

Edit:  I also noticed I messed up my previous reply.  I've got a computer where the log consistently shows points award that is twice what is shown in the client.  Not the other way around.  The log has the answers.  The client is not a reliable point of reference.
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

Code:
04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.

Yep that line you have is what I look at.  I have a computer where the line shown in the log is consistently less that half what is shown in the client.  They mismatch on the other computers as well but usually not as much.  The point is the log will tell you what is actually happening.


Ahh, got you. This explains a lot. And magically the client just updated to show the true timing and increased the PPD to 72k...

I'm not getting how some people have 100k+ with their 7950's though.

You won't know what your average PPD is until you have run for several days at least after you get the card tuned.  Remember when someone says they get 100K+ PPD that means points per day.  Not points per WU.  If you get a few work units that take a long time to complete you will end up with some work that was done but isn't awarded to the next day so-to-speak.  You need a few days to a week to let it all average out.

Okay, thanks for clarifying things for me! This is completely different from mining; so much so that it's like re-learning everything from the beginning, Smiley.

I'll give it a couple days now that I know what's actually going on and what to expect.
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I can't say you will get double the points but you should get more points.  There is a time element to this that impacts the awarded points as well.

I edited the post above while you was posting this it seems so I'm going to post that paragraph here as well.  If you are looking at the client to determine the estimated PPD that is also very unreliable.  Check the points that are awarded after the WU is uploaded.  It is often much higher than what the PPD estimate is in the client based on what I have seen.

Thanks for being patient with me while I try to learn all of this. On the checking the points that are awarded, how is this done?

Do you mean like this line:

Code:
04:34:09:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 15500.00 points

Or on the site? Because the site appears to be updated once a day or so.

Yep that line you have is what I look at.  I have a computer where the line shown in the log is consistently less that half what is shown in the client.  They mismatch on the other computers as well but usually not as much.  The point is the log will tell you what is actually happening.


Ahh, got you. This explains a lot. And magically the client just updated to show the true timing and increased the PPD to 72k...

I'm not getting how some people have 100k+ with their 7950's though.

You won't know what your average PPD is until you have run for several days at least after you get the card tuned.  Remember when someone says they get 100K+ PPD that means points per day.  Not points per WU.  If you get a few work units that take a long time to complete you will end up with some work that was done but isn't awarded to the next day so-to-speak.  You need a few days to a week to let it all average out.

Okay, thanks for clarifying things for me! This is completely different from mining; so much so that it's like re-learning everything from the beginning, Smiley.

I'll give it a couple days now that I know what's actually going on and what to expect.

Glad to help.  I'm new as well.  I've only been folding since a few days after CureCoin launched.  I finally got all the computers through a 24 hour period without any hung WU's so that was nice.  Ended up having to lower the memory speed significantly on my GPU's.  I had already been reducing the core clock speeds which made them more stable but I had to take the core clock speeds down too much to be "normal".  After reducing the memory speed things got much more stable.  Now it appears I may finally have them dialed in.

You are right.  It really is starting from scratch but this is a much more worthy endeavor in my opinion.
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May 25, 2014, 07:04:12 AM
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How do I set the clocks for the GPUs individually? With mining I did this with the config, and Catalyst only shows one card.
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May 25, 2014, 07:07:27 AM
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How do I set the clocks for the GPUs individually? With mining I did this with the config, and Catalyst only shows one card.

I just use Sapphire Trixx for mine. That should work if you use AMD, and I think it worked for NVIDIA as well.
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How do I set the clocks for the GPUs individually? With mining I did this with the config, and Catalyst only shows one card.

I just use Sapphire Trixx for mine. That should work if you use AMD, and I think it worked for NVIDIA as well.

Thank you, Trixx slowed down mining for me so I was wondering what programs are out there that do the same.
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How to tweak cards with settings?

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Yes, similar to trixx
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Subscribe http://www.reddit.com/r/curecoin !  We need 200 subscribers to be listed in the sidebar of r/cryptocurrency which will help bring new folders and investors.
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What are the port numbers?

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