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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150870 times)
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November 10, 2015, 11:24:47 PM
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The offensive language and behavior in the thread has gotten out of hand, however.

Apologize for the use of offensive language. It is just my normal style of writing and was not intended to offend anyone, but now that I have been asked to avoid it on this thread I will abide.
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November 11, 2015, 12:01:59 AM
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The offensive language and behavior in the thread has gotten out of hand, however.
Apologize for the use of offensive language. It is just my normal style of writing and was not intended to offend anyone, but now that I have been asked to avoid it on this thread I will abide.

I don't think you were a particularly egregious offender Tongue

Just trying to get the tone and focus of the thread back on to a productive track - as opposed to personal attacks.

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November 11, 2015, 01:16:42 AM
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I am still digging bitches working dakly to ruin the clams
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November 11, 2015, 01:18:23 AM
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I am still digging bitches working dakly to ruin the clams

Still trolling as well, I see Grin

I would have thought after months, or even years, you would have given up.

Commitment.  I like it.

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November 11, 2015, 02:58:14 AM
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The offensive language and behavior in the thread has gotten out of hand, however.

Apologize for the use of offensive language. It is just my normal style of writing and was not intended to offend anyone, but now that I have been asked to avoid it on this thread I will abide.


The Dude abides.



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November 11, 2015, 05:53:24 AM
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It looks like BayAreaCoins is trying to compromise Doog and convince audience that CLAM is a dead-end project.

I think CLAM has a bright future if it doesn't get fucked along the way by people and their emotions in their trades.  I just think changing the core of CLAM in order to protect current holders against the main thing that made CLAM special is silly and greedy.

BAC acts himself like a person who wish to somehow affect the stock price. Recently he kindly adviced to sell CLAMs but I bet he didn't sell any one of his own.

I don't give a fuck about CLAM price.  I buy Clamcoins at a flat rate regardless of shitcoin markets.

I sold all my CLAM a while ago.  We sell when it is profitable, stake when it isn't and try to keep the faucets full for the fauceters.

More of that, as an owner of a faucet, he's obviously a person who's highly interested in manipulating the stock price.  

Not sure what owning faucets and manipulating prices have to do with each other.

My prices are static and have nothing to do with market price.

I also own & moderate:  www.Clamcoin.org ,  www.ClamcoinFaucets.com ,  www.FreeClam.com , www.FreeClamcoin.com ,  www.ClamChecker.com ,  Mod on /r/Clamcoin ,  Mod on /r/ClamClient , Mod on IRC @Clamcoin

The last BTC rally made most of the forks' price to go down ratebly. It's obvious that there's not many ways to influence on the CLAM price, so the simplest and most effective way to do that is to start booming on this board and in JD chat with highly emotional expressive messages.  

I give close to no fucks about CLAM going up or down as indicated above.  CLAM up is better than CLAM down obviously.

I am still digging bitches working dakly to ruin the clams

Still trolling as well, I see Grin

I would have thought after months, or even years, you would have given up.

Commitment.  I like it.

I'd say there is a reasonable chance uvwvj really does know the digger or is assisting.

I'm sure the forum he mods has a FUCK ton of Clamcoins yet to dig I'd bet.

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November 11, 2015, 07:36:13 AM
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I think CLAM has a bright future if it doesn't get fucked along the way by people and their emotions in their trades.  I just think changing the core of CLAM in order to protect current holders against the main thing that made CLAM special is silly and greedy.

So would you prefer not to have the current holders be allowed to vote for what they want?

To be clear, I'm not trying to push any particular change to the rules. I have lots of people asking me to stop CLAM dying, and lots of others saying to leave it alone. You can't please all the people, but you can let the community as a whole vote and implement the most popular choice. CLAM is a community coin after all, so that seems like the fairest way to do things.

If you are against the idea of having the most popular idea be implemented, why is that?

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November 11, 2015, 08:16:42 AM
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Every time I open clam wallet get error message says clam wallet need to close? win xp 32. 
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November 11, 2015, 09:06:41 AM
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So would you prefer not to have the current holders be allowed to vote for what they want?


Please Let's Vote Now!
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November 11, 2015, 09:29:23 AM
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I am still digging bitches working dakly to ruin the clams

Good to see you back with the comedy.
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November 11, 2015, 09:47:52 AM
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So would you prefer not to have the current holders be allowed to vote for what they want?

To be clear, I'm not trying to push any particular change to the rules. I have lots of people asking me to stop CLAM dying, and lots of others saying to leave it alone. You can't please all the people, but you can let the community as a whole vote and implement the most popular choice. CLAM is a community coin after all, so that seems like the fairest way to do things.

If you are against the idea of having the most popular idea be implemented, why is that?

I'm pretty against the idea of making any changes to how the coin works. Clam is far from dying those who are saying it are just butthurt the price dumped (why did these people hold when it was announced early someone was digging and dumping endlessly on polo if the price is what mattered to them?). The truth is with the price being lower more people are playing with clam either on JD or not. You can easily see this with all the new names on JD making larger than average bets. If you guys don't like the way clam is working jump ship and move to another shitcoin don't try to manipulate the core rules to the coin just to please some bagholders
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November 11, 2015, 09:54:10 AM
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Let the community decide, set up the vote!  - I see nothing in dooglas' posts that suggests he favors one set of rules over another, so why so much shouting I'm not sure.

A question though: what do the developers think about doog's idea? This may have been mentioned but i don't see it. Do they have a strong preference for the proposed change over leaving it as it is? Would either result in a vote change their commitment to the coin?
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November 11, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
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If you guys don't like the way clam is working jump ship and move to another shitcoin don't try to manipulate the core rules to the coin just to please some bagholders

Without JD CLAM will be exactly these -  just another shitcoin. Look at the chart. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Let's vote!
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November 11, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
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The result of a vote doesn't necessarily bring about the result that's in the majority's best interest.
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November 11, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
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the rules of this network lends it to being consensus driven

Point of information. The implementation of this peer-to-peer networked cryptocurrency dictates that it be consensus-driven; the only practicable  leadership in this context is “thought leadership”.

So would you prefer not to have the current holders be allowed to vote for what they want?

Point of information. The notion of a plebiscite is irrelevant to a peer-to-peer networked cryptocurrency; there is no central authority to enforce the result.

One insight that I've had confirmed by this discussion: the functioning of any altcoin community is seriously hampered by the absence of a reliable mirror.

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November 11, 2015, 11:16:59 AM
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If you guys don't like the way clam is working jump ship and move to another shitcoin don't try to manipulate the core rules to the coin just to please some bagholders

Without JD CLAM will be exactly these -  just another shitcoin. Look at the chart. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Let's vote!
What has the chart to do with jd? Clam stake and thats what makes most of the profit which brings investors/holders.
Jd spreaded the voice about clam , a known coin is usually an "succesfull" coin.

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November 11, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
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after someone receives clams into qt wallet, how many confirms does it take before those clams may be used?
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November 11, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
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I would vote to leave Clam as it is with no changes.
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November 11, 2015, 01:33:06 PM
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I would also say the coin should stay as it is, i feel changing the claim part of the coin would fundamentally change what CLAM is all about and how it came to existance. Everyone who got into CLAM knew very well what they signed into, it was well known that the possibility of someone digging up a lot of CLAM exists and it did not stop them from buying in.
Im pretty sure many of the investors want to get the staking to stop so the price would go up and they could exit.
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November 11, 2015, 02:07:14 PM
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So would you prefer not to have the current holders be allowed to vote for what they want?

I'm not a current holder of CLAM because I'm not a smuck trading... does this mean I lose my right to vote because I made good trades?

This isn't a democracy as Deb was so cunty to point out to me. 

I don't think a vote should be held for core things such as digging that set CLAM truly aside from the rest of the crowd.

Voting over the internet with account harvesters like Zolace is just asking for it... You can already see the shills come out.

To be clear, I'm not trying to push any particular change to the rules.

You obviously are... you have been since you started losing your ass on all your stupid trades.  I've sat here and watched it with my two beety little eyes.  It's at the top of your message board in Just-Dice as well even. 

It is hurting CLAM having this conversation over and over.  Nothing brings investor faith like shaking the whole foundation of something to the core... *sarcasm*  You can literally see the books dry up and it isn't all because of the digger.   


I have lots of people asking me to stop CLAM dying

Then do something to help... put your money where your mouth is powder puff. 

Dox the digger because I find it WAY hard to believe that you can't... I've seen you drop too many doxxes directly or indirectly. 

Rat4, Owsley and others.  (Recall you sending me Owsley's picture of his house when he was trolling you.)

If you are against the idea of having the most popular idea be implemented, why is that?

If everyone was jumping off a bridge would you jump too?

Good lil sheeple! 

As I know, faucet brings profit with selling adverts and related.

Google Adsense

You get money from advertiser, buy CLAMs, and pay users, also in CLAMs, for they're watching adverts and clicking links.

Wrong.  I do not buy CLAM through Poloniex or any of the other exchanges.

The faucets are stocked with free Clamcoins earned from ClamChecker.com dig option #2, free Just-Dice rain and once in a blue moon a clammie or two from a 4.6 DIG.

I think I've bought to stock once.

You don't drop all your CLAMs at a time through the faucet, obviously.
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Actually I do.  The earned CLAMs go to either the exchange or the faucet... if it isn't profitable to sell at the time then they are staked.

So, you must have some amount of CLAMs in unused funds. And I can't believe it just lay still there on your accounts.

You don't have to believe it, but I don't have any CLAMs.

And you're interested in low as much as in high.

Even if CLAM is exchanging 1 to 1 with Bitcoin... our Clamcoins earned through step #2 are free.  `We pay a flat .005 per fresh address dug for option #3.  High is better because we don't buy at low or high... just selling atm.

Because you trade.

Thanks for telling me something about me that I don't know about me!

I do not buy CLAMs atm.  The only trading that is done with CLAM and I now days are sells.  I have no interest in buying into a centralized system with someone whom I believe is fucking up 6 ways from Sunday here lately...  I honestly believe that they are going to change CLAM in their "favor" regardless of what "we" say or think.

Dooglus has a fucked up view on trading and reality some times... like for example how he though the /offsite feature with a room full of degenerates would offset how much they'd invest with JD...  Roll Eyes

It's unbelievable in you don't.

*shrugs* not sure what to tell ya then.



I'm pretty against the idea of making any changes to how the coin works. Clam is far from dying those who are saying it are just butthurt the price dumped (why did these people hold when it was announced early someone was digging and dumping endlessly on polo if the price is what mattered to them?). The truth is with the price being lower more people are playing with clam either on JD or not. You can easily see this with all the new names on JD making larger than average bets. If you guys don't like the way clam is working jump ship and move to another shitcoin don't try to manipulate the core rules to the coin just to please some bagholders

Amen.

Without JD CLAM will be exactly these -  just another shitcoin. Look at the chart. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Let's vote!

Without the CLAM distribution there would have been no JD.

Sorry you aren't going to vote on what made CLAM great... it's just not going to happen and there very obviously isn't consensus to change it.

I maybe interested in the halfing idea if the halfing also halfed the stakes... then when the digging was done, so where the stakes and the network spins on flat #.   

there is no central authority to enforce the result.

Clamcoin is centralized.  Dooglus has the throne and he will continue to push this agenda until he justifies it in his head to push it through.  I've been watching this person for years at this point and I'm sure of it.

He showed this week that he is prepared to abuse his power by changing someones password on Just-Dice and not allowing them to do what they want with their account... that's just a taste of what is to come I believe.  Pretty disgusting Sad.

What has the chart to do with jd? Clam stake and thats what makes most of the profit which brings investors/holders.
Jd spreaded the voice about clam , a known coin is usually an "succesfull" coin.

No... just no... 

Seriously you need to go get help for your huffing.  I can tell you huff gas or paint even through the computer. *starts singing and snapping "Do you believe in magic?"*


I'm really happy I'm not the only one that is against this insane rule change proposals. *phew*

I would vote to leave Clam as is with no change.

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