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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150788 times)
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September 12, 2015, 12:13:08 AM
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What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

The easiest way is probably to visit Just-Dice.com, go to the 'chat' tab, type:
  /dig Ljfik3gh938f82g132789gf

where that's your LTC address, and hit return.

It will tell you whether you have CLAMs waiting for you or not.

If you're prepared to tell it the private key as well, it will claim the CLAMs for it, and credit them to your account. Then you can withdraw them to an address of your choosing.
Ok thanks
But
What date should I have ltc on my address or is it imoprtant or not ?
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September 12, 2015, 12:20:59 AM
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Ok thanks
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What date should I have ltc on my address or is it imoprtant or not ?

On the 12th of May 2014 a snapshot was taken of the BTC, LTC, and DOGE blockchains. All addresses bearing a non-dust amount at that point in time were given 4.60545574 CLAMs for free. This was the initial distribution of CLAMs, and it how all the CLAMs were created. The intent was to make the distribution as fair as possible, since everyone involved in any of those three coins automatically got free CLAMs.

The specific blocks at which the snapshots were taken:

   BTC block 300377 (2014-05-12 12:48:17)
   LTC block 565693 (2014-05-12 13:06:31)
  DOGE block 218556 (2014-05-12 13:09:17)

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Last edit: September 12, 2015, 02:34:44 AM by BayAreaCoins
 #4023

What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

Feel free to try: http://clamchecker.com

Everything on the site works right now and we are just polishing up a few typos her n there + security stuff.

Checking to see if you have CLAMS is completely free and anything further than that has fees (addition posts coming once we launch.)

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September 12, 2015, 02:53:03 AM
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What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

If you are 100% positive you know what pub/priv key pair the LTC existed "at" on May 12th of last year, and understand "change" addresses - the methods listed so far would likely be the easiest most sure-fire way to claim.

If you, however, don't understand "change" addresses, it is recommended you use the official CLAM software to claim.



EDIT:

The important point is that simply looking at your "receive" addresses in the GUI of a wallet will not guarantee that you get all of the CLAM you deserve.

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September 12, 2015, 04:55:07 AM
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What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?

If you are 100% positive you know what pub/priv key pair the LTC existed "at" on May 12th of last year, and understand "change" addresses - the methods listed so far would likely be the easiest most sure-fire way to claim.

If you, however, don't understand "change" addresses, it is recommended you use the official CLAM software to claim.



EDIT:

The important point is that simply looking at your "receive" addresses in the GUI of a wallet will not guarantee that you get all of the CLAM you deserve.

This seems to contradict the claim in your sig that everyone who has LTC has CLAMs, despite your casino manager's spirited and emotional objections.



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September 12, 2015, 05:40:59 AM
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What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?
Some blockexplorer or something?
If you are 100% positive you know what pub/priv key pair the LTC existed "at" on May 12th of last year, and understand "change" addresses - the methods listed so far would likely be the easiest most sure-fire way to claim.
If you, however, don't understand "change" addresses, it is recommended you use the official CLAM software to claim.

EDIT:
The important point is that simply looking at your "receive" addresses in the GUI of a wallet will not guarantee that you get all of the CLAM you deserve.
This seems to contradict the claim in your sig that everyone who has LTC has CLAMs, despite your casino manager's spirited and emotional objections.

Let us dispose of straw-men, ad hominem, and other such cruft.

If you have a legitimate qualm - please state it evenhandedly.



Updated signature to contain past tense text; as it was entered around launch time in the present tense.

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September 12, 2015, 05:43:33 AM
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What is  easest way to check Do I have clams on my LTC address.?

If you, however, don't understand "change" addresses, it is recommended you use the official CLAM software to claim.

EDIT:

The important point is that simply looking at your "receive" addresses in the GUI of a wallet will not guarantee that you get all of the CLAM you deserve.

This seems to contradict the claim in your sig that everyone who has LTC has CLAMs, despite your casino manager's spirited and emotional objections.

So much misunderstanding and inaccuracy in one sentence!

1) I don't see any contradiction here. While it's true that not everyone with LTC has CLAMs, no statement here refers to that at all.
2) Her signature doesn't say that everyone who has LTC has CLAMs.
3) I'm not her casino manager.
4) I'm neither spirited nor emotional.
5) I've not objected to anything.

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The issue at https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/issues/224 has been fixed and closed by dooglus.

Well done Wink


Unfortunately I cannot quote your sig, which says "anyone who owns BTC has CLAMs".

I own BTC and, as a result of your distribution, owned at one time some CLAMs.  I quickly sold them.

Consider correcting your sig.

So, you did indeed have clams, then sold them. It stands to reason that, of course you don't have any clams now, because you sold them. When you sell something, you usually don't get to keep it, at least not in this reality.
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September 12, 2015, 11:33:13 AM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?

Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

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Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.

Thanks!

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September 12, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.



Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!

I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.

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September 12, 2015, 03:13:07 PM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.



Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!

I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.
That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.

Thanks buddy

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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?
Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!
I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.
That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.
Thanks buddy

I would suggest shutting down the client, downloading the most recent bootstrap file and placing it in your data directory (next to the wallet.dat file), and then restarting the client.
If you don't interrupt it, it should get a large portion of the way to sync'd.

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September 12, 2015, 03:52:30 PM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.



Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!

I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.

Ok. So, what s the easiest way to split my 50 CLAM block into 10 blocks of 5 CLAM each? Please dont tell me I have to do it manually.
Thx a lot.

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Ok. So, what s the easiest way to split my 50 CLAM block into 10 blocks of 5 CLAM each? Please dont tell me I have to do it manually.
Thx a lot.

Using the clam client and the sendtoaddress, you can specify amounts if you are using at least version v1.4.11 . You may need to use clamd instead of the GUI client to do this though.

The sendtoaddress and sendfrom RPC calls can now specify the amount as {"amount":aaa,"count":ccc} to cause the send amount to be split into ccc outputs each of size aaa CLAMs. This allows users to more easily split their coins into multiple outputs without needing to resort to the raw transactions calls.
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September 12, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

It depends how many CLAMs you have, and what kind of a percentage loss you're willing to take while your CLAMs mature after staking. I generally aim to have 1% of my outputs maturing at any point in time, so I only lose 1% of potential earnings. Since it takes 8 hours for an output to mature that means I need to size my outputs such that their expected time-to-stake is 800 hours. 800 hours is 800 * 60 = 48k minutes, and the network aims to stake once per minute. The network weight is currently around 700k, so I need each output to be 700k/48k = 14.58 CLAMs in order to only lose 1% of potential profit.

Smaller than 14 CLAMs per output will result in a smaller percentage loss, bigger than 15 CLAMs will result in a bigger percentage loss, but 14.5 seems like a good size for now.

CLAMs take 510 blocks to mature, but also outputs can't stake until 4 hours after the last time they were involved in a transaction.

The expected time to stake is roughly (network weight) / (output value) minutes.

For an output of 14.5 CLAMs, that's 700k/14.5 = 48275 minutes = 804.59 hours.

Note the network weight shown by the client is only an estimate. It's impossible to know how many CLAMs are actually trying to stake right now - we can only guess based on how many are actually staking and the current difficulty.



Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!

I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.

The wallet itself is pretty small unless you do a lot of transactions, or import a lot of private keys.

The things that do take up space are:

1) blk0001.dat (the raw blocks). It's currently 650 MB.
2) txleveldb (the block database). It's currently 370 MB.
3) debug.log (the logfile). It grows over time. Mine is 1.4 GB. But you can delete it whenever you like.

So the blockchain uses up just over 1 GB right now.

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September 12, 2015, 04:11:07 PM
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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?
Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!
I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.
That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.
Thanks buddy

I would suggest shutting down the client, downloading the most recent bootstrap file and placing it in your data directory (next to the wallet.dat file), and then restarting the client.
If you don't interrupt it, it should get a large portion of the way to sync'd.


Hmm, what am i doing wrong here..


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Ok. So, what s the easiest way to split my 50 CLAM block into 10 blocks of 5 CLAM each? Please dont tell me I have to do it manually.
Thx a lot.
Using the clam client and the sendtoaddress, you can specify amounts if you are using at least version v1.4.11 . You may need to use clamd instead of the GUI client to do this though.
The sendtoaddress and sendfrom RPC calls can now specify the amount as {"amount":aaa,"count":ccc} to cause the send amount to be split into ccc outputs each of size aaa CLAMs. This allows users to more easily split their coins into multiple outputs without needing to resort to the raw transactions calls.

The client will also automatically split in half outputs which stake in less than a 24 hour period.

Additionally, the client allows fine tuned runtime splitting via the flags: -maxstakevalue, -splitsize and -combinelimit.

Our staking system is, at this point, almost certainly the most powerful and customizable system currently in existence.

You can review notes on some of these additional features via change logs here: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/releases

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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?
Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!
I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.
That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.
Thanks buddy
I would suggest shutting down the client, downloading the most recent bootstrap file and placing it in your data directory (next to the wallet.dat file), and then restarting the client.
If you don't interrupt it, it should get a large portion of the way to sync'd.
Hmm, what am i doing wrong here..

I expect nothing is wrong - it appears to be importing blocks. 
Unfortunately, the beginning of the import (due to the initial distribution block size) as well as up to a certain point (due to utilizing scrypt as opposed to sha256) can take some time to verify and import.

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Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?
Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?
Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.
Thanks!
I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.
That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.
Thanks buddy


I would suggest shutting down the client, downloading the most recent bootstrap file and placing it in your data directory (next to the wallet.dat file), and then restarting the client.
If you don't interrupt it, it should get a large portion of the way to sync'd.
Hmm, what am i doing wrong here..

I expect nothing is wrong - it appears to be importing blocks.  
Unfortunately, the beginning of the import (due to the initial distribution block size) as well as up to a certain point (due to utilizing scrypt as opposed to sha256) can take some time to verify and import.
I downloaded the bootstrap.dat and placed if in the same map as the clam wallet.dat.
I do not see any deliverance in getting the blocks more quickly that i did before downloading the bootstrap.dat
Its it whise to delete this bootstrap, i do not thing its doing anything...or will it help later when more blocks are synchronized? 

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