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August 22, 2014, 06:04:55 AM |
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...that is very risky, because if you buy 10 XC at 240k sell at 200k and what if it goes up again? You sold at a loss with nowhere to go.
But you still have some "capital" to invest with...... Never put yourself in "no cash" status. Going "all-in" is maybe one of the most common mistakes newbies do. Always leave some "spare cash". . Have ever played that table game MONOPOLY? As simple as that. Even the biggest experts make some lossy trades. The key to success is - get lossy trade count just a bit bellow the quantity of profitables. 4:6 is quite good show, while 3:7 is just about what best experts do. That's from the 101's i have learned in FOREX
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August 22, 2014, 06:29:15 AM |
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What sort of fees?
We'll find out tomorrow. All we know is that XC is planning to implement a revenue-generating wallet feature through a development collaboration with Qibucks...or something like that. Full details to come tomorrow. Qibucks is having some sort of lottery, every so much Qibucks you have in your wallet. They have a lottery that will convert that to bitcoin ATM card. Something along those lines. I hope XC doesn't do that. I have no idea where you got that information from but I can tell you that isn't the case lol. Please always get the correct information before spreading it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) He's referring to the Proof of Bagholder Pool in your OP. It's close enough to where I could figure out what he was talking about... ANY QBK questions you wish to ask us please feel welcome and free to come on our thread. This is the XC thread so I don't wish to discuss QBK here not to offend our XC Brethren. I would like to feel free also to pop in here now and then and discuss XC stuff as buying into XC we feel we also are now part of the XC community correct? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . @Abrupto Thank you sincerely for your kind words.. I Hope once I buy up enough XC one of you kind gents here will teach me how to stake them.. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You're welcome, and yes you are now part of the xc community if you have invested in xc. It may take a while for some of our community members to adjust, until they do let me be the first to say welcome aboard. Good luck with your move. Awe thank you..Our aim is to grow our XC asset stash and at the same time try our hand at day trading a small percentage of it..Like every 1k coins trade 100 coins and stake the rest.. See how my idea on that works lol..I need to read the charts for a bit.. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 22, 2014, 08:04:28 AM |
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anyone what do you think of bitsharesX? can we Implement the Same in XC in the Near Future? Anyone knows how anonimous is their anonimity system? Isn't 6k satoshi redicolous for 2billions coins? is it justified?
Someone knows more about this new blockchain? I just discovered it today
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August 22, 2014, 08:07:38 AM |
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anyone what do you think of bitsharesX? can we Implement the Same in XC in the Near Future? Anyone knows how anonimous is their anonimity system? Isn't 6k satoshi redicolous for 2billions coins? is it justified?
Someone knows more about this new blockchain? I just discovered it today
don't you realize it is extremely dangerous right now due design flaw. semi-centralized and controlled by delegates. is that against the BTC starting point?
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August 22, 2014, 08:08:55 AM |
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What sort of fees?
We'll find out tomorrow. All we know is that XC is planning to implement a revenue-generating wallet feature through a development collaboration with Qibucks...or something like that. Full details to come tomorrow. Qibucks is having some sort of lottery, every so much Qibucks you have in your wallet. They have a lottery that will convert that to bitcoin ATM card. Something along those lines. I hope XC doesn't do that. I have no idea where you got that information from but I can tell you that isn't the case lol. Please always get the correct information before spreading it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I Was not Fudding, still learning about it.
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August 22, 2014, 08:13:12 AM |
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anyone what do you think of bitsharesX? can we Implement the Same in XC in the Near Future? Anyone knows how anonimous is their anonimity system? Isn't 6k satoshi redicolous for 2billions coins? is it justified?
Someone knows more about this new blockchain? I just discovered it today
don't you realize it is extremely dangerous right now due design flaw. semi-centralized and controlled by delegates. is that against the BTC starting point? No I don't know anything about this project. The Idea kick ass big time tough: "BitShares X is a family of DACs that implement the business model of a bank and exchange. These distributed autonomous credit unions could rival the value of the largest banks in the world such as JP Morgan and Bank of America in just a few years. BitShares X offers a bank account where funds can be transferred in seconds anywhere in the world with more privacy and security than a Swiss bank account. Your account can never be frozen, your funds cannot be seized, and the bank can never face collapse due to loan defaults or fraud. All of this is made possible without requiring any employees, lawyers, regulatory compliance, vaults, buildings, and other infrastructure required by traditional banks. Unlike existing banks, you can hold your balance denominated in gold, silver, oil, or other commodities in addition to national currencies. In addition to acting as a bank, BitShares X also serves as an exchange where currencies, commodities, and stock derivatives can be traded with most of the features used by professional traders including shorts and options. The bank takes a cut on every transaction and pays these transaction fees to the delegates and then shareholders by way of the Burn Rate. BitShares X can achieve this feat using the same technology that makes Bitcoin possible - irrevocable decentralized automated consensus forming. The market capitalization of shares in this new bank will exceed two times the value of all balances in gold, silver, oil, and currency accounts. This requirement allows for 200% reserve collateralizing the value of all deposits in the bank. " Can we do something similar with XC using our anonimity system as well? Why do you say it is flawn? what is the design flaw are you referring to?
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August 22, 2014, 08:28:50 AM |
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anyone what do you think of bitsharesX? can we Implement the Same in XC in the Near Future? Anyone knows how anonimous is their anonimity system? Isn't 6k satoshi redicolous for 2billions coins? is it justified?
Someone knows more about this new blockchain? I just discovered it today
don't you realize it is extremely dangerous right now due design flaw. semi-centralized and controlled by delegates. is that against the BTC starting point? No I don't know anything about this project. The Idea kick ass big time tough: "BitShares X is a family of DACs that implement the business model of a bank and exchange. These distributed autonomous credit unions could rival the value of the largest banks in the world such as JP Morgan and Bank of America in just a few years. BitShares X offers a bank account where funds can be transferred in seconds anywhere in the world with more privacy and security than a Swiss bank account. Your account can never be frozen, your funds cannot be seized, and the bank can never face collapse due to loan defaults or fraud. All of this is made possible without requiring any employees, lawyers, regulatory compliance, vaults, buildings, and other infrastructure required by traditional banks. Unlike existing banks, you can hold your balance denominated in gold, silver, oil, or other commodities in addition to national currencies. In addition to acting as a bank, BitShares X also serves as an exchange where currencies, commodities, and stock derivatives can be traded with most of the features used by professional traders including shorts and options. The bank takes a cut on every transaction and pays these transaction fees to the delegates and then shareholders by way of the Burn Rate. BitShares X can achieve this feat using the same technology that makes Bitcoin possible - irrevocable decentralized automated consensus forming. The market capitalization of shares in this new bank will exceed two times the value of all balances in gold, silver, oil, and currency accounts. This requirement allows for 200% reserve collateralizing the value of all deposits in the bank. " Can we do something similar with XC using our anonimity system as well? Why do you say it is flawn? what is the design flaw are you referring to? do not mad with me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i am a bagholder of BTSx, if you turn hundreds pages back in this thread. as i said, semi-decentralized as drk. and btsx original design is not like the current. i do not want to continue this discussion any more. i am more interested in XC development progress. thanks a lot. please kindly do not reply me anymore about this. thanks .
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August 22, 2014, 08:35:31 AM |
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Sure, What I am saying is that the Idea of making a decentralised Bank account where you can deposit commodities and trade them using Crypto Protocol is Fantastic and I thought was not coming now. It is a Bitcoin 2.0 full Implementation.
I think XC should go in that direction and advertise the platform as a bank account as well when there will be the Exchange ready with first 2.0 Implementations.
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August 22, 2014, 08:42:48 AM |
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my question is always flooded in massive posts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) this TC article reminds me of importance of our Privacy development is not only limited in crypto world. as we know, XC is platform and mobile app in our plan. so sorry to ask how soon we will release the android XCHAT (ios may be also possible, since the app may not mandatorily ask users to purchase XC, it is protocol. in that case we can bypass apple policy?) how user-friendly is XCHAT? cuz mass users may not have knowledge to find out what public key is. here is the TC article: http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/21/are-you-ever-truly-anonymous-online/and a new app dstrux.com, also about privacy
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August 22, 2014, 08:43:24 AM |
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Well, I have to say, it is possible, you can read from the road map that the mobile POS wallet is on the plan. XC app will have XChat, XVoice & XVideo on mobile devices. The dev should have a priority for the development milestones. A building is starting from a strong basement.
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August 22, 2014, 08:44:06 AM |
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the dev just follow the roadmaps and working hard.you are the best!
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August 22, 2014, 08:52:41 AM |
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anyone what do you think of bitsharesX? can we Implement the Same in XC in the Near Future? Anyone knows how anonimous is their anonimity system? Isn't 6k satoshi redicolous for 2billions coins? is it justified?
Someone knows more about this new blockchain? I just discovered it today
don't you realize it is extremely dangerous right now due design flaw. semi-centralized and controlled by delegates. is that against the BTC starting point? No I don't know anything about this project. The Idea kick ass big time tough: "BitShares X is a family of DACs that implement the business model of a bank and exchange. These distributed autonomous credit unions could rival the value of the largest banks in the world such as JP Morgan and Bank of America in just a few years. BitShares X offers a bank account where funds can be transferred in seconds anywhere in the world with more privacy and security than a Swiss bank account. Your account can never be frozen, your funds cannot be seized, and the bank can never face collapse due to loan defaults or fraud. All of this is made possible without requiring any employees, lawyers, regulatory compliance, vaults, buildings, and other infrastructure required by traditional banks. Unlike existing banks, you can hold your balance denominated in gold, silver, oil, or other commodities in addition to national currencies. In addition to acting as a bank, BitShares X also serves as an exchange where currencies, commodities, and stock derivatives can be traded with most of the features used by professional traders including shorts and options. The bank takes a cut on every transaction and pays these transaction fees to the delegates and then shareholders by way of the Burn Rate. BitShares X can achieve this feat using the same technology that makes Bitcoin possible - irrevocable decentralized automated consensus forming. The market capitalization of shares in this new bank will exceed two times the value of all balances in gold, silver, oil, and currency accounts. This requirement allows for 200% reserve collateralizing the value of all deposits in the bank. " Can we do something similar with XC using our anonimity system as well? Why do you say it is flawn? what is the design flaw are you referring to? I will run from it because if they implemented derivatives in blockchain it is time bomb
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August 22, 2014, 09:01:34 AM |
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I will run from it because if they implemented derivatives in blockchain it is time bomb
What do you mean? What if we do it without derivatives? I mean the Idea is genial or am I wrong?
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August 22, 2014, 09:09:21 AM |
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I will run from it because if they implemented derivatives in blockchain it is time bomb
What do you mean? What if we do it without derivatives? I mean the Idea is genial or am I wrong? i think DAN is planning to do the real decentralized one. but don't expect the transaction is as fast as visa. anyway it may possible with POBC. We really need some briefing from Dan if he has some time from coding ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) we need to know more about our future. maybe that is much more important than some side-projects.
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August 22, 2014, 09:18:02 AM |
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I will run from it because if they implemented derivatives in blockchain it is time bomb
What do you mean? What if we do it without derivatives? I mean the Idea is genial or am I wrong? idea is not bad but if you have to use whole package then ..... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 22, 2014, 09:22:14 AM |
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I will run from it because if they implemented derivatives in blockchain it is time bomb
What do you mean? What if we do it without derivatives? I mean the Idea is genial or am I wrong? idea is not bad but if you have to use whole package then ..... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Anyway I love this thread I feel like the smartest Investors are in here if you have anymore tips and suggestions on the new things in Crypto please PM me with the Info if you do not want to post it in this thread. I see XC as the most advanced Crypto for anonimity features and future plan of action I just don't want others to deliver before us.
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August 22, 2014, 11:35:15 AM |
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Is there any good news?
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August 22, 2014, 12:12:34 PM |
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Is there any good news?
we are waiting on the disclosure of the payment system for xc Holders with the JV with Qibuck it will happen today.
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