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July 31, 2015, 05:09:53 PM
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1. Mobile-friendly PoW (CryptoNight Lite). The current PoW is not ideal for smaller devices because the 2MB scratchpad is too large for the cache size on most mobile and lower-end desktop/laptop CPUs. A tweak to use a 1 MB scratchpad would allow it to run efficiently on lower end CPUs including some mobile processors as well as much better performance on mainstream desktops/laptops. Credit for this idea goes to the Louisd'or project (crypto_zoidberg and doe1138), although they didn't clearly explain the benefits of it.


Feels strange to me. Why sacrifice original CryptoNight?
We are going to very strong ARMs now, with lots of fast cache, look at MediaTek, look at Apple A7/A8, look at AMD servers with arms, pretty good performance for an original CryptoNight. I got your idea, but i think in that case "light" cryptonight will be less secure.

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July 31, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
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1. Mobile-friendly PoW (CryptoNight Lite). The current PoW is not ideal for smaller devices because the 2MB scratchpad is too large for the cache size on most mobile and lower-end desktop/laptop CPUs. A tweak to use a 1 MB scratchpad would allow it to run efficiently on lower end CPUs including some mobile processors as well as much better performance on mainstream desktops/laptops. Credit for this idea goes to the Louisd'or project (crypto_zoidberg and doe1138), although they didn't clearly explain the benefits of it.


Feels strange to me. Why sacrifice original CryptoNight?
We are going to very strong ARMs now, with lots of fast cache, look at MediaTek, look at Apple A7/A8, look at AMD servers with arms, pretty good performance for an original CryptoNight. I got your idea, but i think in that case "light" cryptonight will be less secure.

Sacrifice is a strange word to use here. I see no sacrifice.

"Less secure" how? AFAIK security of PoW depends on the amount of mining and the distribution of that mining. I'm not aware that a particular PoW function makes one more or less secure than another.

As far as scratchpad size, sure you can always find some targets where 2 MB is best (not sure about Apple though, they have 2 MB/core of L3 but only 1 MB of L2, so that is not clear) but there are also a lot where 1 MB is better, especially if you are looking at cheaper mainstream models as opposed to high end. I think there is room for both.

EDIT: I looked at AMD A1100 (1 MB shared L2, 8 MB shared L3). Although I'm not targeting servers particularly, I see no reason to think that 1 MB scratchpad is not going to be a performance improvement there while preserving the original principles of CryptoNight.
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July 31, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
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Also, speaking of doing things new, have you seen the ZeroTime protocol that this new VanillaCoin is using?  I'm not pumping VanillaCoin, it appears to have some strange FUD surrounding it's launch and at least one very salty user.  I discovered the concept last night and am trying to read more on it, but it sounds very interesting.  
  
I'm not sure what the implications are for privacy though.

It's a scam shitcoin like shadowcash.

fast-pow-to-pos = run away.


vnl is a pow/pos coin, unlimited pow duration and only 0.7% inflation, ignorant. And it's more innovative than your neverending slow-ass bloated cryptonote clones. Not surprising for monerofl community given the average IQ level.

and sdc is a good coin too, more innovative than xmr and aeon united. Blind fanboys.

There is a life outside monero.

no gui no pools etc some deja vu here nothing will be done after one year Smiley
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July 31, 2015, 05:47:53 PM
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you're calling one of the most legit coin ever a shitscam coin without even researching on it. You deserve it Smiley

anyway, have a good day.
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July 31, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
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Let's try to stay on topic please, I just asked about the ZeroTime technology specifically, not the coin itself, which is clearly off topic here.

Feel free to report off topic posts to the forum mods.
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July 31, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
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Also, speaking of doing things new, have you seen the ZeroTime protocol that this new VanillaCoin is using?  I'm not pumping VanillaCoin, it appears to have some strange FUD surrounding it's launch and at least one very salty user.  I discovered the concept last night and am trying to read more on it, but it sounds very interesting.  
  
I'm not sure what the implications are for privacy though.

It's a scam shitcoin like shadowcash.

fast-pow-to-pos = run away.


vnl is a pow/pos coin, unlimited pow duration and only 0.7% inflation, ignorant. And it's more innovative than your neverending bloated cryptonote clones. Not surprising for monerofl community given the average IQ level.

and sdc is a good coin too, more innovative than xmr and aeon united. Blind fanboys.

I'm not joining a cesspool of trolls and scammers, and your post still spam and offtopic (besides disrespectful).

innovation? I doubt it, fancy marketing gimmicks don't fool me, call me ignorant any day. I know real innovation when I see one. The fact you are attacking me and an entire community of coins only proves this.


You're ignorant.. at least do your research before you baselessly attack a legit coin, so you dont make yourself look like an ass...

P.s smooth I wish aeon and monero nothing but the best, its just that the ass jumps in another thread with bs
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July 31, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
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P.s smooth I wish aeon and monero nothing but the best, its just that the ass jumps in another thread with bs

Okay, let's end it here though, and discuss AEON or technologies that might relate to AEON, not other coins.
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July 31, 2015, 06:01:22 PM
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P.s smooth I wish aeon and monero nothing but the best, its just that the ass jumps in another thread with bs

Okay, let's end it here though, and discuss AEON or technologies that might relate to AEON, not other coins.


Cool with me Smiley
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July 31, 2015, 06:27:57 PM
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It's impressive what smooth has done with this coin.  Now it's on bittrex.

I remember this post.  You've come a long way from just maintaining a repo.  Congrats.  Now I'm kicking myself for not mining this coin when the difficulty was a fraction of what it is now.

If anyone has a seed node (just any node on the network with a static IP and high uptime) let me know and I'll add it to my repo for anyone wants to continue to use this coin.

I don't intend to do new development but I will maintain the code with critical bug fixes from upstream.




 
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July 31, 2015, 06:29:58 PM
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I'm a bit worried about adding another consensus system on top of PoW. Darkcoin's is fatally flawed (masternodes deciding among themselves over the rest of the network), but Vanilla's is decentralized, and seems to make sense from the little I've seen. However, I can't see how it can handle network partitions rejoining if a couple blocks have passed. I'll have to go read their whitepaper when I get time, as it does seem like an interesting coin.


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July 31, 2015, 10:25:20 PM
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supplay ?
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July 31, 2015, 10:31:51 PM
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supplay ?

Current is 7.9 million. It uses the same curve as Monero (which has currently 8.6m), but is a month or two behind.

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July 31, 2015, 11:23:17 PM
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Has anyone successfully built the new pool?
What to do with the other 2 repos (node-cryptonote-util and node-multi-hasing)?

I cloned  https://github.com/moneromooo/cryptonote-universal-pool/tree/aeon-light and it built fine but it seems to be missing cn light.



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You need to make sure the reference in the pool package is pointing to moneromooo's modified node-multi-hashing since that's where the hash functions are.

https://github.com/moneromooo/node-multi-hashing

I would think that would already be done in his pool cryptonote-universal-pool repo though.

Hopefully MoneroMooo can offer some additional details on the build process.

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July 31, 2015, 11:55:17 PM
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Actually I already pinged MoneroMoo earlier. Turns out it's a newbie error on my side Undecided
I had not checkout the aeon-light branch...ack!

Code:
git clone https://github.com/moneromooo/cryptonote-universal-pool pool
cd pool
git checkout aeon-light
npm update
node init.js


Thanks for your help smooth!


You need to make sure the reference in the pool package is pointing to moneromooo's modified node-multi-hashing since that's where the hash functions are.

https://github.com/moneromooo/node-multi-hashing

I would think that would already be done in his pool cryptonote-universal-pool repo though.

Hopefully MoneroMooo can offer some additional details on the build process.


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August 01, 2015, 09:19:57 AM
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good afternoon smooth

is there any est time for the gui and pruning
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good afternoon smooth

is there any est time for the gui and pruning

The first version of pruning will be reasonably soon. I'm not going to be more specific on that.

The GUI will be at least a few weeks away, depending on my available time to work on it.

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good afternoon smooth

is there any est time for the gui and pruning

The first version of pruning will be reasonably soon. I'm not going to be more specific on that.

The GUI will be at least a few weeks away, depending on my available time to work on it.



great stuff
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It's impressive what smooth has done with this coin.  Now it's on bittrex.

Thanks for the recognition. I appreciate it.
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August 01, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
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ok scanned again using easeus see a awallet.keys file and many other wallet.dat. got a multibit wallet. too anyway to know which wallet is which

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