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Author Topic: [ANN] AEON [2018-11-30: update to 0.12.7.0+ ASAP; 0.12.8.0 on Windows]  (Read 587722 times)
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November 04, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
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For the sake of the social contract it can't be 1% or higher, anything equal or bellow 0,999% is valid.
 
 
Please elaborate.  I feel like maybe there's something I'm not understanding.

If you read the first post on this topic it says:

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[2] Proposed: minimum maintenance reward of <1%/year for mining incentive starting after approximately 8 years.


1. can you see that at the moment is just proposed? most likely will not be definitive

2. if says after 8 years, the problem is that we can't be sure if after 8 years the coin will be still alive so why are you always thinking that far?

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November 04, 2015, 09:22:41 AM
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For the sake of the social contract it can't be 1% or higher, anything equal or bellow 0,999% is valid.
 
  
Please elaborate.  I feel like maybe there's something I'm not understanding.

If you read the first post on this topic it says:

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[2] Proposed: minimum maintenance reward of <1%/year for mining incentive starting after approximately 8 years.


1. can you see that at the moment is just proposed? most likely will not be definitive

2. if says after 8 years, the problem is that we can't be sure if after 8 years the coin will be still alive so why are you always thinking that far?

Because crypto is not just backed by math or cryptography, its monetary rules are set in stone, it can't be changed later.
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November 04, 2015, 09:31:45 AM
Last edit: November 04, 2015, 09:59:22 AM by smooth
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For the sake of the social contract it can't be 1% or higher, anything equal or bellow 0,999% is valid.
 
 
Please elaborate.  I feel like maybe there's something I'm not understanding.

Inheriting Monero's parameters was implied here, as this coin was launched as an a pure (exact, other than branding) clone of Monero, and further my communication with the original developer when it was handed over strongly suggested that was intended. The only ambiguity comes from Monero's tail reward not having being implemented at the time this coin was launched, so the original forked code for this coin didn't have any tall reward at all. What was in the Monero design but unimplemented at the time (and somewhat ambiguous) was "less than 1%". I think it best that we keep within those parameters and not just make something up out of thin air a year and a half after launch.

Less than 1% can mean 1% for all practical purposes though. Just the slightest bit of rounding down is sufficient to satisfy <1%.
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November 04, 2015, 11:17:10 AM
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.99999 percent (with a repeating decimal) inflation.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  That will really give people something to argue about. 
 
But it's fine.  I think we should simply move with the idea at this point.  0.9%,  0.999~%,  whatever. 
 
It just can't be less than ~.85% because it should be *at least* as much as Monero itself. 
 
My thoughts on the matter are known.  I think we should close this discussion by the end of the week and commit to a course.

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November 04, 2015, 04:51:45 PM
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I'm partial to 0.888%, for Chinese reasons.


I had no idea. 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888_%28number%29


Ok, since they are mathematically equivalent let's go with 0.888 then.  I am increasingly of the opinion if you can activate the same receptors that are drawn to faith and mysticism while also providing cold harded mathematical charity - so be it.  That is the best 'human' solution. 
 
Since China has been at the forefront of crypto mining and adoption so far, it makes sense to use a figure with significance to them, and apparently it even carries other significance as well.

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November 04, 2015, 05:32:06 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2015, 03:58:37 AM by smooth
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I'm partial to 0.888%, for Chinese reasons.

LOL, but not a bad idea.

Interesting fact. .88888... (infinite 8s -- what could be better than that?) = 8/9

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November 04, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
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Wow, 8/9% interest.  That is really fetching.  I like it. 
 
It has a ton of symbolic significance, equates to a decimal value of infinite 8's, even has some embedded math-jokes that call back to the original bitcoin itself (white paper in 2008, release in 2009), and i'm sure there's more that can be gleaned as we go. 
 
I really think we found our own "golden number" here.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy   
 

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November 04, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2015, 09:29:16 PM by Arux
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Fixed diff now available at http://52.8.47.33:8080/   Grin


[edit] core was updated, front-end will be too but later (only comestic change, infos are already good)

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November 04, 2015, 08:52:54 PM
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Okay let's consider this an official proposal then, open for comments:

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Once the base reward declines below 0.3/minute, then reward will switch to inflationary at a target rate of 0.8888888....%/year (actual rate may deviate slightly in practice due to variations in block rate, block reward penalty, rounding, etc.)
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November 04, 2015, 11:42:35 PM
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I like the 8/9. You've got my vote for it.
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November 04, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
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Okay let's consider this an official proposal then, open for comments:

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Once the base reward declines below 0.3/minute, then reward will switch to inflationary at a target rate of 0.8888888....%/year (actual rate may deviate slightly in practice due to variations in block rate, block reward penalty, rounding, etc.)



Yes, I like this for all of the reasons stated already !
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November 05, 2015, 12:10:19 AM
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Alright, well here's what I want to see then (and will help create). 
 
I want Chinese translations for everything we do, cross posted to the relvant hubs for cryptocurrency in the Chinese community.  I refuse to believe that there's not a passionate group of Chinese mathematicians and cryptographers who are also very interested in cryptocurrency and that would take interest in this project.  I definitely don't want to have the feeling that we have developed Aeon in the Western World and are going to 'port' it over to China.  I want to them to have ownership of it too - especially since many will 'wake up' to Bitcoin in the coming months (my speculation).  Because Aeon is meant to be a testbed for Cryptonote ideas, we want to get all the intellectual power behind it we can (and Monero by extension). 
 
Therefore I'll be hosting a bounty of at least 10,000 AEON for a person (or people) interested in helping translate between the communities.  I have at least one investor friend who is into crypto, and is also fluent in English and Chinese.  I'll be asking him about it and seeing if he's interested in getting involved.   
 
Ideally we have Chinese translations of everything, ready to go, from Day 1 of the new database formal release and the subsequent GUI wire-up.

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November 05, 2015, 07:44:41 AM
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New bug fix update (0.9.6.0)

Recommended for all users

Changes in this release
Fix mixin output selection to match wallet output selection
Slightly reduce wallet maximum tx size; should speed up confirmation rate especially for split transactions

The pruning test branch has been updated to 0.9.6.0, so if you are using that you will need to fetch the update and recompile or wait for a new community-provided build.

https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases/tag/v0.9.6.0
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November 06, 2015, 05:48:37 AM
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As is becoming customary, here are unofficial windows binaries:

Aeon-Win-x64-0.9.6.0
Aeon-Win-x64-0.9.6.0-light-node


Just did a brief smoke test on these, everything looks to be running fine here.
Happy Testing!

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November 06, 2015, 07:01:49 AM
Last edit: November 06, 2015, 09:16:13 AM by Arux
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error of payment on the block 625817.
my bad, when i updated the core pool, i used my repo and it's configured with address donation! error is now corrected but i must paid manually the miners (i identified 7 miners)
more infos this evening.

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November 06, 2015, 07:11:11 AM
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As is becoming customary, here are unofficial windows binaries:

Aeon-Win-x64-0.9.6.0
Aeon-Win-x64-0.9.6.0-light-node


Just did a brief smoke test on these, everything looks to be running fine here.
Happy Testing!


Tested Aeon-Win-x64-0.9.6.0
sync ok
save ok
solo mining ok
show hashrate ok
wallet ok

All good,  Smiley

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November 06, 2015, 07:57:55 AM
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I have an investor/entrepreneur friend who went to Berkley for Business, manages his own investment fund, and who has been doing serious business work over in China for a couple of years now.  He's the real deal.  He recently became interested in both Bitcoin and Monero, so I convinced him to take a look at Aeon as well.  
  
I'm offering him some of the Aeon I've acquired to assist us/(find us the right people to assist us) with translation and porting efforts.  Hopefully I'll have more info soon.

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November 06, 2015, 05:54:23 PM
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everything back to normal at http://52.8.47.33:8080/

several low probability events occured all in the same time
- a very high unluck period 579% Cry
- a wrong pool wallet address (my bad when i updated the core pool)
- an error of payment module (no enought outpout to mix... Undecided)

but in conclusion:
- no shares were lost.
- the pool mined the block 625817 to the donation address.
- the miners were paid with a delay. the fees of the correct pool wallet was used to pay the missing amount of block 625817.

with my sincere apologies for the inconvenience.


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November 07, 2015, 12:44:14 AM
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- the pool mined the block 625817 to the donation address.

The AEON donation address? I'd have no problem giving that back.
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November 07, 2015, 01:12:57 AM
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Just pushed some improvements to the GitHub - MoneroMooo is working with me on the disconnection issue now.
The improvements are for hashrate, as well as some better output, so far (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/aeonwolf-10262015.png


hey wolf0 what is your os ? fedora ?

Arch Linux, sorry for the late reply. I used to do Linux From Scratch, but this takes less time and is about as customizable.

Another old LFS user who also uses Arch.  I had a short stint with gentoo, and also Slackware back in the day.  But Arch jhas been my distro of choice for 10 years or so.

FWIW aeon compiles easily on arch with a small tweak turning off a warning, but I imagine you aremaware of this. ☺
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