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July 26, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
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Dear Bitmain CEO is there something wrong with huge discarded shares ? Can you work something out for a new firmware to address this problem?

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July 26, 2014, 09:33:29 PM
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I was able to get the discarded amount lowered as well as the load. I changed the queue to 0 from 4096 and added --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 to the cgminer file.

***IF YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT THIS MEANS DO NOT TRY AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT***

This is the first attempt, not sure if 0 is the optimal queue value for all pools but if you are a P2P miner you may want to try this out. I use a smaller pool and my numbers have gone up. This is along the same tune you could do for an S1 but a far cry from what we did in the GPU days. I have another unit running at a lower speed but have the same results.
 
SSH in then:
Code:
vim /etc/init.d/cgminer
--scan-time 1 --expiry 1

Find line 75 PARAMS...at the end change --queue 0 and add --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 before the quotation.

***DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT****

Before Config Change (I added a line so it is easy to see, I took it out when I finished)


After Config Change


Ant Before


Ant After CHECK THE LOAD VALUES

What's the code to close the editing for ssh? I use windown and putty
And lowering the discarded will benefit what?
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July 26, 2014, 09:41:03 PM
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I was able to get the discarded amount lowered as well as the load. I changed the queue to 0 from 4096 and added --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 to the cgminer file.

***IF YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT THIS MEANS DO NOT TRY AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT***

This is the first attempt, not sure if 0 is the optimal queue value for all pools but if you are a P2P miner you may want to try this out. I use a smaller pool and my numbers have gone up. This is along the same tune you could do for an S1 but a far cry from what we did in the GPU days. I have another unit running at a lower speed but have the same results.
  
SSH in then:
Code:
vim /etc/init.d/cgminer
--scan-time 1 --expiry 1

Find line 75 PARAMS...at the end change --queue 0 and add --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 before the quotation.

***DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT****

Before Config Change (I added a line so it is easy to see, I took it out when I finished)


After Config Change


Ant Before


Ant After CHECK THE LOAD VALUES

What's the code to close the editing for ssh? I use windown and putty
And lowering the discarded will benefit what?
:wq
If I understood you correctly.
Oh it's the same like sshing the s1
Thanks I will give it a try.  I am sure many people of your s3 has a huge big pie of discarded work or shares

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July 26, 2014, 09:42:18 PM
Last edit: July 27, 2014, 01:06:37 AM by faetos
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I was able to get the discarded amount lowered as well as the load. I changed the queue to 0 from 4096 and added --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 to the cgminer file.

***IF YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT THIS MEANS DO NOT TRY AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT***

This is the first attempt, not sure if 0 is the optimal queue value for all pools but if you are a P2P miner you may want to try this out. I use a smaller pool and my numbers have gone up. This is along the same tune you could do for an S1 but a far cry from what we did in the GPU days. I have another unit running at a lower speed but have the same results.
  
SSH in then:
Code:
vim /etc/init.d/cgminer
--scan-time 1 --expiry 1

Find line 75 PARAMS...at the end change --queue 0 and add --scan-time 1 --expiry 1 before the quotation.

***DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND AS YOU WILL BRICK YOUR UNIT****

Before Config Change (I added a line so it is easy to see, I took it out when I finished)



After Config Change



Ant Before



Ant After CHECK THE LOAD VALUES



I appreciate you posting this  Grin I too have no idea why they set such a high queue on the units

Has anyone else had any luck reducing discards with this mod. I've been learning about how to SSH and I think I want to try it. I'm getting a lot of discards and some of the pools are reporting strange hash rates and other feedback, after I played around with load balancing and balancing.

I don't want to speak on Duce's behalf, but experience seems to show at this point that there is possible detriment to changing the queue value from 4096. BMT seems to have done this for a reason.

I am seeing no difference in performance using modified expiry and scan-time settings. I'm working with about 36-hours worth of data at this point.
I made these changes yesterday and my discards dropped x10 and the load is around 1.8 for both. My discards were x15 of accepted shares now then are only x.10. You have to restart cgminer for the changes to take effect.

If you want you can use sed to replace the values in the file (it only occurs once):

Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1"/g' /etc/init.d/cgminer

From what I've seen (not from the above posts) is a lot of people posting really are missing some technical fundamentals to just get the boxes online. Where did they hear about bitcoin mining anyway? It's weird.
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July 26, 2014, 09:43:52 PM
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VIM Editor Commands

Vim is an editor to create or edit a text file.

There are two modes in vim. One is the command mode and another is the insert mode.

In the command mode, user can move around the file, delete text, etc.

In the insert mode, user can insert text.

Changing mode from one to another

From command mode to insert mode   type a/A/i/I/o/O ( see details below)

From insert mode to command mode   type Esc (escape key)

Some useful commands for VIM

Text Entry Commands (Used to start text entry)

a Append text following current cursor position

A Append text to the end of current line

i Insert text before the current cursor position

I Insert text at the beginning of the cursor line

o Open up a new line following the current line and add text there

O Open up a new line in front of the current line and add text there

The following commands are used only in the commands mode.

Cursor Movement Commands

h Moves the cursor one character to the left

l Moves the cursor one character to the right

k Moves the cursor up one line

j Moves the cursor down one line

nG or :n Cursor goes to the specified (n) line

(ex. 10G goes to line 10)

^F (CTRl F) Forward screenful

^B Backward screenful

^f One page forward

^b One page backward

^U Up half screenful

^D Down half screenful

$ Move cursor to the end of current line

0 (zero) Move cursor to the beginning of current line

w Forward one word

b Backward one word

Exit Commands

:wq Write file to disk and quit the editor

:q! Quit (no warning)

:q Quit (a warning is printed if a modified file has not been saved)

ZZ Save workspace and quit the editor (same as :wq)

: 10,25 w temp

write lines 10 through 25 into file named temp. Of course, other line

numbers can be used. (Use :f to find out the line numbers you want.

 

Text Deletion Commands

x Delete character

dw Delete word from cursor on

db Delete word backward

dd Delete line

d$ Delete to end of line

d^ (d caret, not CTRL d) Delete to beginning of line

Yank (has most of the options of delete)-- VI's copy commmand

yy yank current line

y$ yank to end of current line from cursor

yw yank from cursor to end of current word

5yy yank, for example, 5 lines

Paste (used after delete or yank to recover lines.)

p paste below cursor

P paste above cursor

"2p paste from buffer 2 (there are 9)

u Undo last change

U Restore line

J Join next line down to the end of the current line

File Manipulation Commands

:w Write workspace to original file

:w file Write workspace to named file

:e file Start editing a new file

:r file Read contents of a file to the workspace

To create a page break, while in the insert mode, press the CTRL key

And l. ^L will appear in your text and will cause the printer to start

A new page.

 

 

Other Useful Commands

Most commands can be repeated n times by typing a number, n, before

the command. For example 10dd means delete 10 lines.

. Repeat last command

cw Change current word to a new word

r Replace one character at the cursor position

R Begin overstrike or replace mode – use ESC key to exit

:/ pattern Search forward for the pattern

:? pattern Search backward for the pattern

n (used after either of the 2 search commands above to

continue to find next occurrence of the pattern.

:g/pat1/s//pat2/g replace every occurrence of pattern1 (pat1) with

pat2

Example :g/tIO/s//Ada.Text_IO/g

This will find and replace tIO by Ada.text_IO everywhere in the file.

:g/a/s// /g replace the letter a, by blank

:g/a/s///g replace a by nothing

note: Even this command be undone by u

 

Examples

Opening a New File

Step 1   type   vim filename   (create a file named filename)

Step 2   type   i   ( switch to insert mode)

Step 3   enter text   (enter your Ada program)

Step 4   hit   Esc key   (switch back to command mode)

Step 5   type   :wq   (write file and exit vim)

 

Editing the Existing File

Step 1   type   vim filename   (edit the existing file named filename)

Step 2   move around the file using h/j/k/l key or any appropriate command

h Moves the cursor one character to the left

l Moves the cursor one character to the right

k Moves the cursor up one line

j Moves the cursor down one line

nG or :n Cursor goes to the specified (n) line

(ex. 10G goes to line 10)

Step 3   edit required text (replace or delete or insert)

Step 4   hit Esc key (exit from insert mode if you insert or replace text)

Step 5   type   :wq
Courtesy/Source : http://www.radford.edu/~mhtay/CPSC120/VIM_Editor_Commands.htm
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July 26, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
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Can u put the screenshot?

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July 26, 2014, 10:09:11 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?
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July 26, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?

If you want to trust any of the ASIC manufacturer, BitmainTech should be in the first place.
They will return your money much before Aug 2.
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July 26, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?

Someone posted earlier today that Bitmain told them their refund would process tomorrow but they were not very clear about how that information was communicated to them (message on web site, email, etc.).

I applied for the refund as soon as it was open on 7/15 and have sent a few messages on the site and posted itt but have heard nothing.  I do think it's kind of bush league to make us wait considering how much BTC the forum members alone have put into their coffers but I don't think their intention is to rip us off...that would be such a terrible business decision for them knowing how many miners are on this board.

When I ordered my miners I had only 1 hour to pay...not sure why it is any different in reverse.  

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July 26, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
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Quote
VIM Editor Commands

Vim is an editor to create or edit a text file.

There are two modes in vim. One is the command mode and another is the insert mode.

In the command mode, user can move around the file, delete text, etc.

In the insert mode, user can insert text.

Changing mode from one to another

From command mode to insert mode   type a/A/i/I/o/O ( see details below)

From insert mode to command mode   type Esc (escape key)

Some useful commands for VIM

Text Entry Commands (Used to start text entry)

a Append text following current cursor position

A Append text to the end of current line

i Insert text before the current cursor position

I Insert text at the beginning of the cursor line

o Open up a new line following the current line and add text there

O Open up a new line in front of the current line and add text there

The following commands are used only in the commands mode.

Cursor Movement Commands

h Moves the cursor one character to the left

l Moves the cursor one character to the right

k Moves the cursor up one line

j Moves the cursor down one line

nG or :n Cursor goes to the specified (n) line

(ex. 10G goes to line 10)

^F (CTRl F) Forward screenful

^B Backward screenful

^f One page forward

^b One page backward

^U Up half screenful

^D Down half screenful

$ Move cursor to the end of current line

0 (zero) Move cursor to the beginning of current line

w Forward one word

b Backward one word

Exit Commands

:wq Write file to disk and quit the editor

:q! Quit (no warning)

:q Quit (a warning is printed if a modified file has not been saved)

ZZ Save workspace and quit the editor (same as :wq)

: 10,25 w temp

write lines 10 through 25 into file named temp. Of course, other line

numbers can be used. (Use :f to find out the line numbers you want.

 

Text Deletion Commands

x Delete character

dw Delete word from cursor on

db Delete word backward

dd Delete line

d$ Delete to end of line

d^ (d caret, not CTRL d) Delete to beginning of line

Yank (has most of the options of delete)-- VI's copy commmand

yy yank current line

y$ yank to end of current line from cursor

yw yank from cursor to end of current word

5yy yank, for example, 5 lines

Paste (used after delete or yank to recover lines.)

p paste below cursor

P paste above cursor

"2p paste from buffer 2 (there are 9)

u Undo last change

U Restore line

J Join next line down to the end of the current line

File Manipulation Commands

:w Write workspace to original file

:w file Write workspace to named file

:e file Start editing a new file

:r file Read contents of a file to the workspace

To create a page break, while in the insert mode, press the CTRL key

And l. ^L will appear in your text and will cause the printer to start

A new page.

 

 

Other Useful Commands

Most commands can be repeated n times by typing a number, n, before

the command. For example 10dd means delete 10 lines.

. Repeat last command

cw Change current word to a new word

r Replace one character at the cursor position

R Begin overstrike or replace mode – use ESC key to exit

:/ pattern Search forward for the pattern

:? pattern Search backward for the pattern

n (used after either of the 2 search commands above to

continue to find next occurrence of the pattern.

:g/pat1/s//pat2/g replace every occurrence of pattern1 (pat1) with

pat2

Example :g/tIO/s//Ada.Text_IO/g

This will find and replace tIO by Ada.text_IO everywhere in the file.

:g/a/s// /g replace the letter a, by blank

:g/a/s///g replace a by nothing

note: Even this command be undone by u

 

Examples

Opening a New File

Step 1   type   vim filename   (create a file named filename)

Step 2   type   i   ( switch to insert mode)

Step 3   enter text   (enter your Ada program)

Step 4   hit   Esc key   (switch back to command mode)

Step 5   type   :wq   (write file and exit vim)

 

Editing the Existing File

Step 1   type   vim filename   (edit the existing file named filename)

Step 2   move around the file using h/j/k/l key or any appropriate command

h Moves the cursor one character to the left

l Moves the cursor one character to the right

k Moves the cursor up one line

j Moves the cursor down one line

nG or :n Cursor goes to the specified (n) line

(ex. 10G goes to line 10)

Step 3   edit required text (replace or delete or insert)

Step 4   hit Esc key (exit from insert mode if you insert or replace text)

Step 5   type   :wq
Courtesy/Source : http://www.radford.edu/~mhtay/CPSC120/VIM_Editor_Commands.htm

Thanks for sharing  Grin

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July 26, 2014, 10:44:09 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?

Meh, bitmain has proven himself and delivered on promises over and over again. Chill out - you can't be that desparate for 0.05 BTC...

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July 26, 2014, 10:54:56 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?

Meh, bitmain has proven himself and delivered on promises over and over again. Chill out - you can't be that desparate for 0.05 BTC...

They certainly had the option in their system. I opted for the coupon since they have been consistent in delivering. They have proven they support their products well.

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When I ordered my miners I had only 1 hour to pay...not sure why it is any different in reverse.  

That's a fair point, and Bitmain have so many BTC in their wallet.

A thread that has not seen life for a while : Bitmain is looking for bulk Bitcoin buyers

Requirements: 1,000 Bitcoin is the minimum volume in a single trade.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501034.0

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Word of advice for people who are going to try and use VI (or the VIM version of VI) for the first time.

Take a copy of the file you are about to mess up big time Smiley

Code:
cp important.file important.file.bak

Then go ahead and unleash yourself on VI.

Top 3 commands:

Code:
[ESC]:q!    (abandon everything and quit)
[ESC]:wq    (save changes and quit)
[SHIFT]R    (type over existing text)   followed by [ESC]  (finished typing over existing text)

Good luck!

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699064.msg8042352#msg8042352

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July 26, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
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It appears the company has no intention to actually refund us 7.7% for the miners that did not meet spec.
Is there a single honest miner vendor out there?

Someone posted earlier today that Bitmain told them their refund would process tomorrow but they were not very clear about how that information was communicated to them (message on web site, email, etc.).

I applied for the refund as soon as it was open on 7/15 and have sent a few messages on the site and posted itt but have heard nothing.  I do think it's kind of bush league to make us wait considering how much BTC the forum members alone have put into their coffers but I don't think their intention is to rip us off...that would be such a terrible business decision for them knowing how many miners are on this board.

When I ordered my miners I had only 1 hour to pay...not sure why it is any different in reverse.  

I received an email from Bitmain support to say that refunds will be processed on Sunday, I initially sent an email to request to convert my refund into coupons as I wanted to buy more units from batch 4, I then traded with another customer whilst waiting to hear back, but then after my trade I received an email from Bitmain to say it was not too late to convert my refund and they would issue me with the coupons on Sunday, however by that time I no longer needed to convert the refund to coupons, so I sent an email back to say can I keep the refund and asked when I would receive it, to which Bitmain replied yes and it would be processed on Sunday. ....hope that made sense :-)

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I made these changes yesterday and my discards dropped x10 and the load is around 1.8 for both. My discards were x15 of accepted shares now then are only x.10. You have to restart cgminer for the changes to take effect.

If you want you can use sed to replace the values in the file (it only occurs once):

Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1"/g' cgminer

From what I've seen (not from the above posts) is a lot of people posting really are missing some technical fundamentals to just get the boxes online. Where did they hear about bitcoin mining anyway? It's weird.
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Big improvement on mine also. I was wondering the same, and I am talking about basic networking.

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July 26, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
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I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?


no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat.  always less then 5-8k worth of gear.  not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

 but these days  to be middle sized means 20th.  I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

 that would be 42-44 s-3s  that comes to about 15 k-watts.  I can do 4k to 6k in the winter.  I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.



Wait what kind of house you got? I got 3 ZeusMiner Hurricane X3 and 14 ZeusMiner Blizzards and 6 gridseed mini's -75setup in two separate rooms. Each room has its own circuit.  Total 70-75 Mh/s...about 2200 watts. As long as you stay below 1600 watts per circuit you will be right...But does anybody know the max power that can come out of a house in the USA?

I want to throw in 4 Antminer S3's into the mix...

My electric bill is about $100 extra a month with all the stuff.

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July 26, 2014, 11:59:23 PM
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Wait what kind of house you got? I got 3 ZeusMiner Hurricane X3 and 14 ZeusMiner Blizzards and 6 gridseed mini's -75setup in two separate rooms. Each room has its own circuit.  Total 70-75 Mh/s...about 2200 watts. As long as you stay below 1600 watts per circuit you will be right...But does anybody know the max power that can come out of a house in the USA?

I want to throw in 4 Antminer S3's into the mix...

My electric bill is about $100 extra a month with all the stuff.

It depends on the house.  Older homes will have less power, 100 amps or less.  Newer homes can have a lot more.  I'd be very careful if you live in an older home.  The wiring using back in the good old days (especially in the 60s and 70s when there was a copper shortage) may be a little sketchy.   BTW, it's not uncommon in the US where multiple bedrooms share a single circuit, so don't assume each room has a dedicated circuit. 
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I'm  just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?


no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah  just a bit.  down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's  but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner.   I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way.  when they come I will order 2 more.

 after those 2 come I will assess my next move.  right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat.  always less then 5-8k worth of gear.  not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

 but these days  to be middle sized means 20th.  I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

 that would be 42-44 s-3s  that comes to about 15 k-watts.  I can do 4k to 6k in the winter.  I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.



Wait what kind of house you got? I got 3 ZeusMiner Hurricane X3 and 14 ZeusMiner Blizzards and 6 gridseed mini's -75setup in two separate rooms. Each room has its own circuit.  Total 70-75 Mh/s...about 2200 watts. As long as you stay below 1600 watts per circuit you will be right...But does anybody know the max power that can come out of a house in the USA?

I want to throw in 4 Antminer S3's into the mix...

My electric bill is about $100 extra a month with all the stuff.

$100 extra for 2200watts? You are a lucky guy man.

The max power that can come out of a house in the USA will rely on you checking your breaker box to see what type of amps are in what rooms  Grin it will show you what the circuit is running

 example is Living Room with a 20A breaker on a 115/120 circuit would be 20A x 115v = 2300 max watts in ALL living room outlets.

The problem with houses is if the circuits are split individually or spread around the house. example, your living room may have split outlets with the hallway and even a bathroom

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